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« Reply #45 on: Monday 13 February 2012, 08:18 »
I'm not sure that all this has needed to be exposed to the pubic gaze, Jim, but have you looked at the "track" tags? If they aren't already, try using the iTunes "Get info" command to tag them "1 of 3", "2 of 3" and "3 of 3". It might just help. They all need to have the same album name and performers of course.
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« Reply #46 on: Tuesday 14 February 2012, 01:57 »
Well, I did that, and at first it didn't work, but then I took a closer look...to find that my entire library had been turned upside down!  Apparently the Sort Composer button had been hit accidentally.  Now everything is as it should be.  BTW the Vladigerov VC 1 is apparently in F-sharp minor.  And what a whale of a piece it is, too!  Kind of reminds me of the Korngold, in a way.  That same lush orchestration with the harp and percussion, and big, intensely chromatic tunes coupled with dissonant tutti passages.
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« Reply #47 on: Tuesday 14 February 2012, 04:07 »
It seems to me that Pancho Vladigerov is by far the most impressive of the 20th century Bulgarian composers whose works have been uploaded for the members of this forum. Discussion of Vladigerov has been rather spread across a number of separate threads (as have the downloadable links ;D) but the First and Second Symphonies, the First and Second Piano Concertos and the Second Violin Concerto are certainly all available here.

I understand that there are five Piano Concertos in total and, although the later ones may not have quite the romantic freshness of the first two, the third at least is spoken of as a brilliant virtuoso piece.

It is however the Violin Concerto No.1 which is quoted as Vladigerov's most impressive piece, recalling the Szymanowski 1st.

Having heard both Violin Concertos many times now, I have to say that the first is a good piece, but it is not really fully mature Vladigerov. It leans upon certain devices (such as whole tone chords or passages) in a way that the older composer did not, and the composers early influences are here still undigested. In fact, the voice itself is not quite yet the real Vladigerov. The 2nd Violin Concerto is fantastic. It's a work of a master composer; there's nary a misstep in its narrative. Unlike the 1st, this work could be popular if it could ever gain regular exposure.

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Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
« Reply #48 on: Tuesday 14 February 2012, 04:30 »
Is there any music by Konstantin Iliev?

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« Reply #49 on: Tuesday 14 February 2012, 05:49 »
Au contraire, Monsieur!  Both VCs can be popular, the first no less than the second!  The youthfulness and color of the 1st are sure to gain favor.  I still need to give the 2nd another hearing.  That will be on my agenda for the morrow.
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« Reply #50 on: Tuesday 14 February 2012, 12:21 »
Is there any music by Konstantin Iliev?

I have the Concerto Grosso by Konstantin Iliev.

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« Reply #51 on: Friday 17 February 2012, 04:42 »
fr8nks:
Thanks so much for posting the Concerto for Orchestra and Sonata-Poem by Raychev..he is one of my favorite composers
and I can't wait to hear this. And the quality of the Balkanton LP to date has been excellent.
ANYTHING orchestral in addition to what is here would be deeply appreciated...any concerti, overtures, ballet or other suites would be heaven sent.

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« Reply #52 on: Friday 17 February 2012, 14:07 »
You are very welcome. I have his Symphonies 2 thru 6. I know symphonies 2 and 3 have been uploaded but haven't checked the others. I'll upload what isn't here. Latvian has his choral Symphony No.1 and you might ask him to upload it.

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« Reply #53 on: Friday 17 February 2012, 14:18 »
You are very welcome. I have his Symphonies 2 thru 6. I know symphonies 2 and 3 have been uploaded but haven't checked the others. I'll upload what isn't here. Latvian has his choral Symphony No.1 and you might ask him to upload it.

Frank

Nos. 3 and 4 have been uploaded ;D Not, as far as I can see, No.2.

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« Reply #54 on: Friday 17 February 2012, 16:02 »
The version of Raichev's symphony no.2 that I have is a copy of a commercially-available (on compact disc) recording, so when I found that out after uploading it I took it down. (Well, made it private, but effectively so.)

 There's a few commercially-available recordings of this work and some no longer available (but once available on CD), I don't know of any airchecks etc. or whathaveyou that haven't at some point been available on CDs- our breakpoint- of the work that could be uploaded in its stead.
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« Reply #55 on: Saturday 25 February 2012, 21:45 »
I can provide uploads of an alternative performance of Alexander Raichev's Sonata-Poem for Violin and Orchestra(Boyan Lechev/Bulgarian National Radio SO/Vassil Stefanov) and Vessilin Stoyanov's Violin Concerto of 1948.

Any interest ???

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« Reply #56 on: Sunday 26 February 2012, 04:30 »
It seems to me that Pancho Vladigerov is by far the most impressive of the 20th century Bulgarian composers whose works have been uploaded for the members of this forum. Discussion of Vladigerov has been rather spread across a number of separate threads (as have the downloadable links ;D) but the First and Second Symphonies, the First and Second Piano Concertos and the Second Violin Concerto are certainly all available here.

I understand that there are five Piano Concertos in total and, although the later ones may not have quite the romantic freshness of the first two, the third at least is spoken of as a brilliant virtuoso piece.

It is however the Violin Concerto No.1 which is quoted as Vladigerov's most impressive piece, recalling the Szymanowski 1st.

Having heard both Violin Concertos many times now, I have to say that the first is a good piece, but it is not really fully mature Vladigerov. It leans upon certain devices (such as whole tone chords or passages) in a way that the older composer did not, and the composers early influences are here still undigested. In fact, the voice itself is not quite yet the real Vladigerov. The 2nd Violin Concerto is fantastic. It's a work of a master composer; there's nary a misstep in its narrative. Unlike the 1st, this work could be popular if it could ever gain regular exposure.
To me, Vladigerov's most impressive work is from 1952,
Pancho wrote his Jewish poem, dedicated to his grandfather Leon Pasternak.
but I have not yet heard the symphonies.

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« Reply #57 on: Sunday 13 May 2012, 14:08 »
I deleted the following post as I just realized this work is on CD :

Vladigerov, Pancho (1899-1978)

Divertimento for chamber orchestra,
Bulgarian National Radio Symphony Orchestra,
Alexander Vladigerov (conductor)




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« Reply #58 on: Monday 14 May 2012, 00:29 »
It seems to me that Pancho Vladigerov is by far the most impressive of the 20th century Bulgarian composers whose works have been uploaded for the members of this forum. Discussion of Vladigerov has been rather spread across a number of separate threads (as have the downloadable links ;D) but the First and Second Symphonies, the First and Second Piano Concertos and the Second Violin Concerto are certainly all available here.

I understand that there are five Piano Concertos in total and, although the later ones may not have quite the romantic freshness of the first two, the third at least is spoken of as a brilliant virtuoso piece.

It is however the Violin Concerto No.1 which is quoted as Vladigerov's most impressive piece, recalling the Szymanowski 1st.

Having heard both Violin Concertos many times now, I have to say that the first is a good piece, but it is not really fully mature Vladigerov. It leans upon certain devices (such as whole tone chords or passages) in a way that the older composer did not, and the composers early influences are here still undigested. In fact, the voice itself is not quite yet the real Vladigerov. The 2nd Violin Concerto is fantastic. It's a work of a master composer; there's nary a misstep in its narrative. Unlike the 1st, this work could be popular if it could ever gain regular exposure.
To me, Vladigerov's most impressive work is from 1952,
Pancho wrote his Jewish poem, dedicated to his grandfather Leon Pasternak.
but I have not yet heard the symphonies.
The Jewish Poem is a marvelous work. Also recommended is the Concert Overture Op.27 and the opera Tsar Kaloyan.