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Peter1953

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A Riddle…
« on: Thursday 05 January 2012, 21:22 »
X’s compositions, published and unpublished, cover the whole range of music in every art form – they all show consummate mastery in every aspect of technique. Even in the most facile there is beauty and wit. Each series of works culminates in something that has the uniqueness of a living masterpiece.

My questions ares: (1) who wrote those words and (2) who is X?
"Voyez mon ami, l'essentiel dans la musique c'est la mélodie" - Gioacchino Rossini

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Re: A Riddle…
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 05 January 2012, 21:28 »
2. Julius Röntgen, I think.
1. Don't know.
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« Reply #2 on: Thursday 05 January 2012, 21:36 »
1. Donald Tovey, in his obituary of...
2. Julius Röntgen

I'd seen this before in reading through materials about Röntgen when I first discovered him about 7-8 years ago; Tovey, of course, greatly admired Röntgen.

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« Reply #3 on: Thursday 05 January 2012, 22:45 »
I have a great deal of respect for Sir Donald Tovey as a music writer and as Professor of Music at my own old University. He was a close friend of my great-uncle(also a Professor at Edinburgh) but really that is extravagance of praise to an almost ridiculous degree.

There are very very few great composers of whose works those sort of words could apply.

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« Reply #4 on: Friday 06 January 2012, 16:57 »
Probably my first and also last riddle… I didn’t realize it was so obvious… Yes, Tovey and Röntgen.

BTW, I’m very much enjoying Röntgen’s biography Gaudeamus, a dissertation by Dr Jurjen Vis of Amsterdam (2007). What a fascinating figure Röntgen was. But, as a composer, it is said that he was a Brahms epigone.
"Voyez mon ami, l'essentiel dans la musique c'est la mélodie" - Gioacchino Rossini

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« Reply #5 on: Friday 06 January 2012, 17:10 »
Thing is, Röntgen was an absolute master of compositional technique. He was also much, much more than a Brahms epigone - that is the sort of lazy thinking that consigns all unsung composers to footnotes of a certain few recognised masters. Having said which, I don't think that Röntgen was a master of the front rank - but the recordings of his music over the last decade or so have clearly revealed an enormously gifted composer of a conservative stamp whose music doesn't deserve to be forgotten.

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« Reply #6 on: Friday 06 January 2012, 18:14 »
I certainly don't think that Rontgen deserves to be forgotten.

I have bought all the symphonies and concertos so far issued on cd and will continue to do so.
Now that is partly, I will concede, because once I start to collect a composer's orchestral and choral music the 'completist' in me seizes control of my wallet ;D ;D, but I am perfectly ready to assert that in his very conservative idiom Rontgen's music is not simply pleasant but gives genuine pleasure.

Whether he was "an enormously gifted composer" or "an absolute master of compositional technique" I am not qualified to say. He may well have been. For those who enjoy Rontgen's idiom I welcome the interest being shown in his music.

My gripe, I suppose, is that because Rontgen wrote so much, so many symphonies, so many concertos, the attention being lavished upon him and the commitment to record everything means that other composers' works (including those by other Dutch composers) will take longer to emerge. I hope that I am proved wrong and that CPO will press ahead with its promise to issue all the van Gilse, the Badings, the Pijper etc.

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« Reply #7 on: Friday 06 January 2012, 20:46 »
Other famous words, by his good friend Edvard Grieg: Julius Röntgen may not be as famous as his cousin Conrad [the pioneer of radiography] but his music is much more powerful than x-rays.

Do you know the CD "Right through the bone" (RCA Red Seal, 2007) with chamber music?  Four wonderful works giving the listener a constant flow of gorgeous and memorable themes, especially the first movement of the Piano Quintet in A minor, op. 100 and all three movements of the Trio for Clarinet, Viola and Piano in E flat major. His String Sextet in G major is one of the most beautiful sextets I know of.

In 1947 the distinguished Dutch critic Herman Rutters wrote: If it should be true that national folklore has enough inspirational strength for this, then perhaps no other person than Röntgen could have created a Dutch music. (Jurjen Vis, Gaudeamus, p. 542)

Not bad for a German composer who was born in Leipzig and went to Amsterdam in December 1877 to stay in the Netherlands for the rest of his life, but continued to speak German. ;D
"Voyez mon ami, l'essentiel dans la musique c'est la mélodie" - Gioacchino Rossini

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« Reply #8 on: Friday 06 January 2012, 22:16 »
I think it is significant that Tovey held Röntgen is such high regard. That'll do for me.

As for cpo recording so much Röntgen to the possible exclusion or detriment of other composers, all I can say is that there appears to be no cause for concern. Of course, with an average of only 6 releases per month, the company may take a considerable time to get through its extensive backlog of unissued recordings...