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Alan Howe

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Re: Rufinatscha from Chandos
« Reply #120 on: Sunday 05 June 2011, 18:00 »
Peter Quantrill's review isn't a bad one, although anyone who thinks that Brahms died in the same year as Rufinatscha...

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« Reply #121 on: Thursday 09 June 2011, 13:15 »
i like his symphony 6. i listened many times. i'm looking forwoard to hear more works of him.

Alan Howe

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« Reply #122 on: Thursday 09 June 2011, 15:16 »
Welcome to the forums! I am glad that you are enjoying the Rufinatscha CD! We hope that Chandos will record volume 2 in the autumn.

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Re: Rufinatscha from Chandos
« Reply #123 on: Saturday 16 July 2011, 01:48 »
You can now buy this CD from emusic for $5.99.

Alan Howe

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Re: Rufinatscha from Chandos
« Reply #124 on: Saturday 16 July 2011, 09:44 »

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« Reply #125 on: Saturday 16 July 2011, 15:57 »
I actually find the finale to be a rather more successful movement than many other symphonic finales from the period.  The "big tune" is the motto theme from the first movement.
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« Reply #126 on: Saturday 16 July 2011, 22:43 »
I haven't heard this new recording yet, so I cannot pass judgement on it, but I tend to be of the opinion that Franz Lachner's 5th & 8th symphonies are more interesting to listen to than Rufinatscha's 6th. This could be due to the contrapuntal nature of some of the movements and more colourful orchestration.
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Alan Howe

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« Reply #127 on: Saturday 16 July 2011, 22:57 »
I have learned to appreciate Lachner's contribution to the symphonic literature, but I'm certain in my own mind that Rufinatscha is the more original composer. Of course, he is half a generation later than Lachner, so comparisons are maybe inappropriate...

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Re: Rufinatscha from Chandos
« Reply #128 on: Monday 12 December 2011, 15:25 »
At long last, I finally got this CD just about a week ago.  To me, the highlight ends up being a work I'd never heard before: Die Braut von Messina.  This ends up being somewhat bizarre and a touch rambly (not necessarily in a bad way).  The orchestration is, as with all Rufinatscha I've heard, rich and complex without being overly syrupy or bombastic, and even at its harshest moments doesn't offend my ears.  I especially like the last 2 minutes or so, it's quite dramatic and exciting.  This is a work definitely worth hearing.

The Symphony #6 was already one of my favourite symphonies, and I thought with Chandos we'd get exceptional audio quality.  Yep, they delivered, as usual.  What I'm not so sure about is the performance.  The orchestra demonstrates superior clarity to the world-premiere recordings from the Tiroler Landesmuseen, and this is not just about the great audio quality from Chandos.  I really like orchestral clarity, where individual parts are more easy to pick out.  But to be honest, there are certain elements to the original recording that I prefer, but it's really hard to put my finger on.

I'd rarely ever think that having two recordings of the same work is necessary, but in this case, if someone has the money, I'd probably recommend getting both.  The orchestral clarity and overall sound quality from this Chandos disc is just excellent, and it gives a chance to get a more clean and nuanced "view" of Rufinatscha's extraordinary orchestral abilities.  The orchestral terrain that he lays down would be worth exploring even if he completely lacked any gift for melody, climax, &c., but he most definitely was not lacking in other departments!

Alan Howe

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Re: Rufinatscha from Chandos
« Reply #129 on: Monday 12 December 2011, 17:41 »
The Chandos CD features in MDT's top sellers of 2011....

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Re: Rufinatscha from Chandos
« Reply #130 on: Monday 12 December 2011, 17:42 »
Oh, well done Alan!

Alan Howe

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« Reply #131 on: Monday 12 December 2011, 19:24 »
It also repays Chandos for the faith they put in the composer...

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« Reply #132 on: Monday 12 December 2011, 23:08 »
That's most encouraging, Alan. Well done! (Chandos too - and all involved in this venture).

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Re: Rufinatscha from Chandos
« Reply #133 on: Sunday 11 March 2012, 17:56 »
Ralph Couzens reports on the Chandos forum:

<<Due to busy orchestral schedules the next volume of Rufinatscha has been postponed for a year. Apologies for this and I will post a message when I get a new date.>>

A tad disappointing, I suppose, but at least we know that vol.2 will follow in due course...

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Re: Rufinatscha from Chandos
« Reply #134 on: Tuesday 27 March 2012, 06:19 »
Noticed btw that RISM lists Rufinatscha symphonies 5 and 6; apologies if mentioned before and therefore redundant (or not even nearly on topic). Those wanting incipits/themes or other information on sym 5 before the CD of sym 5 is released (who don't already have the other recording) may want to check this link for instance. (Click of course "Weitere incipits" to get sample themes from all the movements.) This is based on the copy of the material at Innsbruck. (RISM is often a useful resource for various reasons- rather more useful than this, actually... by which I mean in the next year or two, Chandos Records will probably have posted a PDF with all that material to their website, more or less, etc., and a CD with a performance of the work will be available for sale or download; not so much many other works of some interest to people here that RISM has manuscript-or-first-edition information on. Wasn't a negative about the Rufinatscha works I've heard, which have me looking forward to more as I'd expected.)
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