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Alan Howe

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Röntgen PCs 2 & 4 from cpo
« on: Tuesday 02 November 2010, 19:44 »
jpc have (sketchy) details of the release of Röntgen's PCs 2 and 4 on cpo here:

http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/J-Rontgen-Piano-Concertos-No-2-4/hnum/4986076

...although we know from cpo's catalogue that the pianist is Matthias Kirschnereit and the orchestra the NDR Philharmonic of Hannover under David Porcelijn.

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Re: Röntgen PCs 2 & 4 from cpo
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 04 November 2010, 15:39 »
It is sketchy.  Do you know if either 2 or 4 is the Concerto in D, opus 18 that was available on CD at one time?

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Re: Röntgen PCs 2 & 4 from cpo
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 04 November 2010, 16:31 »
Well, if we take the 1873 Concerto in G minor as No. 1, then No. 2 is the op 18 in D which was previously available on Donemus - yes.

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Re: Röntgen PCs 2 & 4 from cpo
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 19 December 2010, 09:58 »
Frustratingly, having had this on order from jpc for some weeks, I have now been informed that the CD is not available. I assume that the release date has had to be put back for some reason. I'm trying to find out why...

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Re: Röntgen PCs 2 & 4 from cpo
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 06 July 2011, 07:44 »
The CD has now been announced for release in October, although I think this is a misprint and that it will be out later this month (I hope!)...
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/cpo/detail/-/art/Julius-R%F6ntgen-1855-1932-Klavierkonzerte-Nr-2-4/hnum/7541623

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Re: Röntgen PCs 2 & 4 from cpo
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 06 July 2011, 08:04 »
I think it must be a misprint, Alan. It says 28th of October 2010, and that's pretty close to the date when you started this topic.


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Re: Röntgen PCs 2 & 4 from cpo
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 06 July 2011, 08:31 »
I agree - the CD is going to be 'on offer' until August on jpc and given that they have other new CPO discs out on July 25th, I would guess (and hope!) that this is also the release date for the long awaited Rontgen PCs.

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Re: Röntgen PCs 2 & 4 from cpo
« Reply #7 on: Friday 22 July 2011, 14:15 »
My copy is shipping now, so I guess that it's generally available.

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Re: Röntgen PCs 2 & 4 from cpo
« Reply #8 on: Friday 22 July 2011, 15:48 »
Oh good. I've duly ordered my copy....

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Re: Röntgen PCs 2 & 4 from cpo
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Re: Röntgen PCs 2 & 4 from cpo
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 28 July 2011, 16:37 »
I've just received my copy and have listened a couple of times. To my surprise, I found myself still completely unmoved by the Second Concerto, which I've known for quite a few years from the Donemus recording and always found unmemorable. To me it seems very predictable, full of empty gestures and competent but unexciting orchestration. The Fourth, on the other hand, comes across as a much more imaginative and satisfying piece with the first two movements (and especially the middle one) making an instant impression. Maybe the fact that it's six minutes shorter overall helps.

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Re: Röntgen PCs 2 & 4 from cpo
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 28 July 2011, 20:10 »
How different opinions can be, Mark. What I think of the Second is completely the opposite of how you described the work. I even dare to say that it’s one of the finest unsung piano concertos I know of. Besides the delightful melodies, the work fortunately lacks atonality and noise. It’s all a matter of personal taste, I suppose.
"Voyez mon ami, l'essentiel dans la musique c'est la mélodie" - Gioacchino Rossini

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Re: Röntgen PCs 2 & 4 from cpo
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 28 July 2011, 21:25 »
Indeed, how opinions do differ! His PC2 is still one of my all-time favourites and I can hear its melodies in my mind's ear (as it were) without even trying. However, I did play the Donemus CD to death in 2004/5 when I first got it, so I've probably brainwashed myself...

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Re: Röntgen PCs 2 & 4 from cpo
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 28 July 2011, 22:51 »
Well, I surprised myself at the negative impression the Second made on me as I was expecting to be as wowed as you two obviously are. It obviously still just didn't push the right buttons for me, whereas the Fourth I thought a rather fine effort. I'll play them both again tomorrow and, who knows, maybe I'll be in for an epiphany?
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Re: Röntgen PCs 2 & 4 from cpo
« Reply #14 on: Friday 29 July 2011, 14:03 »
OK, OK, I'm an idiot! I've just listened again to the Second Concerto in the new performance from Kirschnereit on cpo and I have to say that it is utterly gorgeous. I loved it from beginning to end (although I do think that the third movement isn't on the same level as the other two). So I don't know what I was thinking of yesterday and I hang my head in shame.

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