Unsung Composers

Thanks fyrexia for the Davrionas recording. And welcome to UC.

I believe btw (though I know this composer has come up before, when a violin concerto of his was recorded recently and the CD was mentioned a couple of years ago, coupled with Korngold's) - the recording is from about 1961, and the composer's vitals are
Balys Dvarionas (June 1904 - August 23 1972, Lithuanian, Wikipedia-en (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balys_Dvarionas).
(I think I've seen your channel on youtube, fyrexia. some very good stuff there. appreciated finally getting to hear Golubev's 2nd concerto :) )

Yes, welcome fyrexia.  I'm a subscriber to your YouTube channel.

Jerry

Thanks for reminding me of that violin concerto.  I recall wanting to pick it up.  Let me see if it's made its way onto CD Universe yet.

Its good to know i have subscribers from my youtube channel around here.
I am not sure if the Dvarionas Concerto no.1 has been made a modern recording.
I know he also wrote a second concerto. But i never came to know any recording/performance of it.
Been trying to search several years for the lp that has his piano cycles titled "Winter Sketches", maybe someone might have heard it before?
I have only the first piece of the cycle posted on my Youtube channel.

Tony

Thanks very much, fyrexia!  I'm also a subscriber to your YouTube site, and I've found it invaluable for discovering unsung composers.  Welcome!

Golubev- thanks much, have been interested in his music for years (including some as far as I know mostly unrecorded late string quartets the local university library has in score- some of them are recorded though I haven't heard them. Have heard so far only a couple of symphonies - 5 and 7-- some quartets via MIDI, a few other things... ). Is the recording of piano sonata no. 4 and concerto 3 - IIRC - no longer available on Melodiya? (I haven't heard it even so, but wanted to be careful with our understandable guidelines.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vubqpd9eG00

Golubev String Quartet No.10

Tony

Those interested in Matchavariani should probably also check out this web site:

http://www.matchavariani.ge/alexi/rec.html (http://www.matchavariani.ge/alexi/rec.html)

Golubev cello concerto - a recording (http://www.svetlanov-evgeny.com/EN/discographie/index.php?l=G) of this with Rostropovich is mentioned on Svetlanov's website, so it -might- be conducted by him... not proof though.

I am pretty sure that this is the exact performance. Thank you so much for finding such information.
I do not think the concerto was performed more then once. At least doubtful for producing another recording.

Tony

speaking of Golubev, anyone ever run into a performance (not even necessarily recorded- just perhaps attended one) or recording of his trumpet sonata? Looks good, though it's not an instrument (either one- piano either) I play...
I do have a tape of a recording of his harp quintet op39 (which unlike I think anything else of his has been recorded more than once, if memory serves. May be nla, though. Not sure where my tape is, either, but I have an idea. May see about digitizing and uploading it if it's been NLA quite long enough...)

Please post one day your recording of the Harp Quintet Op.39. Seems an interesting work !
I have been vaguely searching for his instrumental sonatas. Only to find his piano sonata no.4, with nikolayeva on the piano. Released on a melodiya lp, later reissued to cd. He also has a violin sonata, i hope i can play it someday with a friend.

Tony

Actually, i just found out i had the Harp Quintet! As well as his Piano Quintet, some other minor piano works. Memory to lermontov op.18 and piano responses op.79. Also a concert aria for cello and harp.
Hope to post them soon.

Tony

Anything by Gleb Taranov? I know his 6th symphony (for strings, D minor) was on LP, maybe one or two other works, don't know if his 5th symphony (Bflat minor) ever hit the recording studios (or the concert hall, or the radio, or...)

I do have the Taranov 6th symphony ! Are you interested?

Tony

Quotehttp://www.mediafire.com/?z3w36fjqx4ya8gk
Golubev plays the Piano. Else i dont know.

http://www.mediafire.com/?1s1y2lkchsk5wu4
Dont know who plays here.

what pieces are these?

Oops. forgot to mention haha.
second one is Golubev Piano Quintet and the last one is Golubev Concert Aria for harp and cello.

Tony

ok, I figured out the concert aria one, but I know Golubev's output well enough to have guessed that (not perfectly, but a work like that sort of stands out at one.)
The Taranov 6 does interest, yes, thank you.

I have mp3s and tapes of Dmitri Cuclin symphonies 9 and 11 (from a radio broadcast and old LP, resp.) but that's Romanian, not Soviet... hrm. still.. I should consider uploading something, and those are some of the best things I have, Cuclin was very good... anyhow.
(and in re Soviet music, I knew some of his music before, but thanks for expanding my knowledge of Jānis Ivanovs, too!)

oh! did you mean that latest upload in the Downloads forum was of the Golubev quintets, aria, etc. (wonder if anyone's taped the 6th sonata in memoriam Myaskovsky... was going to make a MIDI of it once back when I had the software as I did of one or two of the string quartets - nos. 9 and 19 or something like that? - and the finale of no.8... probably don't have all of those anymore... may have some.) ?

anyhow, you seem to have confused not just me... :) even though i was reading here too.

BTW for those who've heard the Golubev 7th symphony  on Fyrexia's channel (Heroic, op67, 1972-79, B-flat minor), there's a theme in its slow movement that the composer used earlier basically note for note (except maybe for key and of course instrumentation, but the harmonies even sound the same, I mean) in a similar place in that same 9th quartet (op58, ca1971, D minor). (Which I knew first, so imagine my surprise, not joking...)

The Dmitri Cuclin symphonies interest me very much. Would be darn happy, if you can share these music.
I was quite interested in Cuclins Piano works. I believe jonathan powell, might have played some of his works in some of his recitals.
I am actually wondering if anybody taped any other piano sonata from golubev besides the no.4.
I will collaborate with user on youtube, since i am very lazy to upload anymore picture-only videos. So i will be collaborating with user JCHBONNET.
I actually want to upload to his channel the Golubev Symphony No.5. Which might interest you. Probably i will post it here first though !
Talking about janis ivanovs, i am very interested in any new latvian music i can get !
Perhaps you might know some? Ivanovs is already quite big in the box. Symphonies and concertos and some piano works, including the Sonata.
I am quite interested in Lucija Garuta and Volfgang Darzins. I have a recording of Garuta's Piano Concerto and some piano works... like preludes and variations.
Darzins, i only got a live recording of the Sonata No.2 and Suite in A. I plan to work on the Sonata no.2 with score for my youtube channel.

Tony

I used to have a tape of the Melodiya LP of Golubev sym. 5 in A minor op45 (fine and even fun piece, especially that- I think impish is the word I want... - scherzo... was surprised how quickly Protopopov took it; I'd made a midi of a piano reduction of it at what seemed the right tempo but mine was rather slower. After hearing his, though, I took no convincing. Unfortunately, I accidentally destroyed a few tapes, that one included, some while after and haven't heard the work since.)
As to the Cuclin, will see what I can do. My digitized versions of the symphonies are as one large file (sym 9- well, 2 files, counting a 6-second opener that may be needed, will check. 40 min. in all, possibly also Elenescu as in the following) and 4 smaller ones (sym 11, Emanuel Elenescu/Orchestra Simfonică a Radioteleviziunii, ca.33 minutes; Allegro vivo- Scherzo - ?? (slow movement) - Allegro vivo) (keys of the 2 symphonies are A-flat minor and A minor respectively, memory serves). Good works, described to me by someone as Myaskovsky without the neurosis, which sort of fits, and with plenty of surprises...

II have Darzins Piano Concerto #2 but am a thousand miles from home until October......maybe you can remind me then.

Jerry

Jerry, that sounds excellent !
I have long waited to hear volfgang darzins orchestrals. And a piano concerto is even more exciting !
I would be darn glad to remind you on october  ;D 8)

Tony

hrm. friend sent me a concert from Lithuanian radio with Balsys' 1977 Symphony-Concerto for bass guitar, organ and orchestra and Žibuokle Martinaityte's Thousand Doors to the World (premiere) (haven't heard the latter just yet).

I have both the recordings !
I love the Martinaityte work ! Very interesting female composer i have to say.
Still hoping to hear some of her other works.
I am not very fond of balsys, only except for his violin concertos. Perhaps i am not used to "odd" combination for a concerto.

Tony

oh,no. fyrexia youtube channel is blocked.

I have transfered myself to "fyrexianoff"

http://www.youtube.com/user/fyrexianoff?feature=mhee

All best,

Tony

QuoteHere a rather old recording from german LP.
Alexi Matchavariani Piano Concerto. I uploaded this on youtube with score.
Here are the files, so members can have them on their computer.

I visited your Youtube Channel and was most impressed by his Violin Concerto, so I wanted to check his Piano Concerto but it turns out that your Mediafire link is set to private, can you upload the Videos to your Channel? Thanks.

Just updated.
Will close in 12 to 24 hours.
Nevertheless, i will still upload the work with score on my youtube.

Tony

A.S,

Thanks for the Gadzhibekov. I have not have any of his 2 recorded symphonies. Its good to have one.

Tony

Steinberg symphony 4 in C major opus 24 Turksib movement listing from the Fleischer collection (Free Library of Philadelphia Catalog (http://catalog.freelibrary.org))

1. À travers sables et monts = [ Across sands and mountains ] -
2. Rapsodie (Chansons du temps passé et d'aujourd'hui) = [ Rhapsody (Songs of the past and the present) ] -
3. Conduisant sa voie d'acier dans un combat incessant contre le desert à travers les montagnes rocheuses, à travers les gouffres et les sables = [ Guiding the steel road in an unceasing combat against the desert across rocky mountains, across chasms and sands ] -
4. Char du diable = [ Devil's chariot ].

If the FLAC files (which i converted into WAVs and then MP3s but anyway) start with movement 2, that gives a description of the 3 files there, starting with Rapsodie etc.
(found this by searching title=Turksib)

Fyrexia,

I have uploaded the Alexandrov Sonatas 4,8 and 13 and the other pieces.  I uploaded the files uncompressed so nobody has a problem opening the tracks. I think my favorite is No8, you might agree. Ah, thanks for the Machavariani.

Cheers,

Fantastic. The eight sonata resembles very much to then 3rd movement of the piano concerto !

Tony

fyrexia, as with the Sulak, many of your links in the thread are set private (and a couple may seem to be gone fully). Can you check on these perhaps?

(It's possible there's other bad links that aren't fyrexia's too).

　Oh! This is interesting work!
 
  Thanks!

                                                    A.S

I uploaded on my Youtube Channel, Revol Bunin Organ Concerto, Sambyn Gonchiksumla Symphony No.2, Maximilian Steinberg Symphony No.1 and Vladimir Zolotukhin Symphony No.2.

The Zolotukhin is somehow a jazzy and popular orchestral music. Not my type of music though, and i still prefer Kapustin then his.

All best,

Tony

I like very much what I've heard by Bunin so far.

A.S,

Do you have the Kuzhamyarov Symphony No.1?
Is your lp of the trumpet cto, by chance coupled with the symphony No.1?

Tony

 
  Tony

  Sorry, I got this trumpet concerto from other website.
  But, symphony no.1 was not there.
  Who anyone have it,　I want someone to upload it.


  But, I have other LP of Kuzhamyarov's music
  It's parhaps contains Kuzhamyarov's violin concerto and  symphony no.2.
  But I can't find it now :'(
  Please wait a moment.

                                                                                                           A.S

A.S. Thanks again for your wonderful uploads !
This will be the only Symphony i have by Kuzhamyarov!

Tony

Thanks herrarte for these piano works, performed by Blagoy. He is a great pianist !

Tony

fyrexia,

Can you upload the Gonchiksumla - Symphony No.2? I liked the 4th Movement especially.

Thanks,

will send a copy to your email.

Tony

Who has the MEL LP that has Khakhanov Violin Concerto, Kokoiti Concert Fantasy for piano and orchestra and Gabarayev Rhapsody No2?
I only happen to have the khakhanov violin concerto, and i would love to see the other works.

Appreciated for the help.

Tony

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIRAxzc3amI&feature=related

I suggest the modern music lovers, listen to this part of the Poloz 5th symphony.
Denial and genius !

Tony

Hi Herrarte,
Where have you uploaded these Alexandrov pieces? I cannot find them in the Russian and Soviet Music downloads page.
Thanks,
Balapoel

Quote from: herrarte on Sunday 10 July 2011, 21:43
Fyrexia,

I have uploaded the Alexandrov Sonatas 4,8 and 13 and the other pieces.  I uploaded the files uncompressed so nobody has a problem opening the tracks. I think my favorite is No8, you might agree. Ah, thanks for the Machavariani.

Cheers,

Quote from: fyrexia on Monday 11 July 2011, 15:59
Since you posted a concerto for trumpet. I thought perhaps you might want this one.
http://www.mediafire.com/?efioycqnsnm6ldi (http://www.mediafire.com/?efioycqnsnm6ldi)

Kryukov Concerto Poem for Trumpet and Orchestra.
Information inside a pdf file.

Hi Fyrexia - do you know if this is the same Kryukov who wrote film scores to Soviet movies - most notably one of the scores that is used for the 1925 Eisenstein classic "Battleship Potemkin"? (and by the way - would you have a recording of that?  I recorded it 18 years from video player to cassette player so of course the quality is terrible!). According to Wikipedia, Kryukov wrote his soundtrack in 1950 (the original score was by Edmund Meisel, I don't like it). Are there any other recordings of Kryukov music or film-music?

This is the only kryukov recording i have. I am not aware of any potemkin battleship with music by kryukov. The last time i saw the Potemkin battleship was with music by Dmitri Shostakovich.

Tony

Belated thanks A.S. for Kalachevsky's Ukrainian Symphony. I've never heard of the guy and the symphony isn't a huge discovery, but it's very enjoyable music - a bit like a very Russian Anton Rubinstein. Thanks a lot. Keep 'em coming!

   Thank you very much to listen my uploads.

   By the way...
   I noticed to linked wrong URL about A.KLYUCHAREV's Volga symphony.
   I modified it now.

   Enjoy it.


   A.S
   
 
   

  Dear  Sicmu.

  Thank you very much , you uploaded  Yurovsky's Symphony No.4.
  It's very rare,  and I'm enjoying to listen it ;)

  Thanks  A.S
 

 

Thanks, Sicmu!
The finale struck me particularly - like cribbed from Prokofiev!
I cannot find much information about him in the web but it is said that he preferred to attend Prokofiev's burial instead of Stalin's. ;)
I have a broadcast of the world premiere of his Symphony No. 5 op. 79 (1971) played by the RSO Berlin and conducted by his son Mikhail (2005). Anyone interested?

You are welcome, many more on the way !

I have a MP3 of the fifth too but the sound is very poor, so I'm definitely interested in your version !

Thank you for the Yurovsky : your recording  sounds much better than mine and  the beginning of the symphony was also missing. This last symphony sounds maybe much like Golubev/Myaskovky than DSCH IMO.

I uploaded Isaak Dunaevsky's operetta "Free Wind" ("Vol'ny Veter" in Russian) in the downloads section  -  hope you enjoy! 

Isaak Dunaevsky - 1900-1955 (can I say it would really help if users also put the dates of composers when they put material up here - it helps one to filter what one is likely to enjoy/not enjoy!)

Two of Taranov's symphonic poems were on Melodiya lps - Gouramyshvili, opus 32 (sym poem) and Three Monuments in C, opus 46 (sym poem) - I have them but they are not digitized and I'm not at home.

Jerry

Re Taranov, thanks. I only knew that the 6th sym. and I think poss. one of his string quartets had reached LP (or maybe the quartet had been released as score like the -5th- symphony also was, is what I'm thinking of. Will have to check again.)
I wonder how Wasilenko's symphonies have fared on LP and in radio broadcast...

I'm assuming that Vasilenko is the same name.  His Symphony #3 in A- Italian, opus 81 was on a Melodiya Lp years ago as were numerous other works.  Including a Piano Concerto in f# (!!!)

Jerry

Yes- 5 symphonies in all, I think, the first at IMSLP (in piano duet reduction, anyway).

Quote from: jerfilm on Sunday 14 August 2011, 16:00
I'm assuming that Vasilenko is the same name.  His Symphony #3 in A- Italian, opus 81 was on a Melodiya Lp years ago as were numerous other works.  Including a Piano Concerto in f# (!!!)

Jerry

Jerry - do you have any more info on the Piano Concerto?

While on Vasilenko, there is a new release from Toccata...

http://www.toccataclassics.com/cddetail.php?CN=TOCC0127 (http://www.toccataclassics.com/cddetail.php?CN=TOCC0127)

　Hi Christopher.

  I have Vasilenko's Piano concerto.
  I will upload today.


  A.S

Thanks A/S/!   Do you also have the symphony which you mention, or other orchestral works of his?  I have his trumpet concerto, Turkmen Suite, and I think also a saxophone concerto (need to check that one!) but not much else.

I have Vasilenko's symphony no.3 but you have to know it is scored for folk orchestra, if you are still interested I will upload it next week ( I'm currently out of town).

Yes I would be very interested - many thanks!

  Christopher

  Vasilenko's work I have are Piano concerto and Trumpet concerto only.
  I want to listen his symphonies.
  But, I guess his recorded symphony is No.3 only.
  Other symphonies are probably unrecorded.
   
  Symphony 1 in G minor, Op. 10 (1906)
                   2 in F, Op. 22 (1913)
                   4 in D minor, Op. 82 "Arctic" (1934)
                   5 in E minor, Op. 123 (1947)


   A.S

Quote from: Christopher on Monday 15 August 2011, 16:53
Thanks A/S/!   Do you also have the symphony which you mention, or other orchestral works of his?  I have his trumpet concerto, Turkmen Suite, and I think also a saxophone concerto (need to check that one!) but not much else.

I must correct my previous entry - it's not a saxophone concerto I have but a balalaika concerto!

His viola sonata has been already recorded on Naxos and can be heard online at the end of a recent-ish Concertzender program here (http://www.concertzender.nl/programmagids.php?date=2011-07-11&month=0&detail=49847). 
A search for Vasilenko on Worldcat reveals only about a dozen LPs or so and a couple of CDs, say (though searching for variant spellings of the name and cyrillic would probably reveal more).

A.S

As for the Barvinsky Concerto. The performers are
Maria Krushelnitska / Orchestra of the Study Opera of the State Mykola Kolessa Musical High Institute / Yuri Lutsiv.

All best,

Tony

Who happens to have recordings of Dvarionas Symphony or Vainiunas Symphony in C Sharp Minor?
Both composers wrote excellent piano concertos AND violin concertos. But i have not heard the only symphonies they have written.
I know there is a 2010 released recording which has the Vainiunas Symphony coupled with his Piano Concerto No.4, as i am trying to buy the cd. And there is also and 50`s released LP.
As for Dvarionas, i am not really sure if it was released on LP?
Would appreciate if anybody has these 2 works !

All best,

Tony

Quote from: fyrexia on Thursday 25 August 2011, 14:39
A.S

As for the Barvinsky Concerto. The performers are
Maria Krushelnitska / Orchestra of the Study Opera of the State Mykola Kolessa Musical High Institute / Yuri Lutsiv.

All best,

Tony

Does anyone else think that the Barvinsky piano concerto sounds like a good concerto that is badly played in this recording?  It would be great to get it re-done!

I believe there exists only one recording of the Barvinsky's Cto and it was issued few years ago in Ukraine on the 2Cds set named Treasures of the Piano Music of Galitsia. It is played by Maria Krushelnitska with Orchestra of the Operatic Faculty of the State Mykola Kolessa Musical High Institute of Lvov, conducted by Yuri Lutsiv.
in the same set there is also pf cto by Stanislav Ludkevich

I have to say, the lyudkevich cto (no.3) is pretty boring for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swj5X9Fw4eg

Here is my upload from long time ago.

Tony

Quote from: markniew on Monday 29 August 2011, 22:09
I believe there exists only one recording of the Barvinsky's Cto and it was issued few years ago in Ukraine on the 2Cds set named Treasures of the Piano Music of Galitsia. It is played by Maria Krushelnitska with Orchestra of the Operatic Faculty of the State Mykola Kolessa Musical High Institute of Lvov, conducted by Yuri Lutsiv.
in the same set there is also pf cto by Stanislav Ludkevich

Do you have any more information about that 2CD set?  What other works are on there apart from Ludkevych and Barvinsky?  Putting "Treasures of the Piano Music of Galitsia" in google yields no results....

and a Worldcat.org search for Barvinskij and similar mostly turns up choral works and a CD of works for string quartet by Ukrainian composers (intriguing, I think I've heard that one is NLA but will try to get to hear it somewhere. Lyatoshinski quartets 2 and 3 are in my honest opinion better than his already quite good symphonies, off topic... (I think I've heard both of those quartets though I only have one digitized.)

Here you have the content
CD 1
Ludkevich  (1879-1979)- Pf cto - no indication on its number [I do not believe there were 3 of them. my source (book Soviet composers and musicologists of 1981, vol. 2 K-R) mentiones only two - no 1 of 1920/revision of 1950 and no. 2 of 1957]
cto was recorded in 1965

Mykola Kolessa (1903-2006)
Passacaglia, Scherzo and Fugue
Four Preludes
Three kolomyikas (sort of folk dances)
Two Miniatures

CS 2
Barvinsky (1888-1963)
5 Preludes
Dumka
Humoresque
Pf cto (recorded 1n 1999)

Nestor Nizhankovsky (1894-1940)
Prelude and Fugue
Rememberance
Intermezzo
Valse
Kolomyika

all pieces are played by Maria Krushelnitska

I havehad CDR copy of the set. booklet is in Ukrainian so not everything is clear for me

Quote from: markniew on Tuesday 30 August 2011, 19:22
Here you have the content
CD 1
Ludkevich  (1879-1979)- Pf cto - no indication on its number [I do not believe there were 3 of them. my source (book Soviet composers and musicologists of 1981, vol. 2 K-R) mentiones only two - no 1 of 1920/revision of 1950 and no. 2 of 1957]
cto was recorded in 1965 .....

Hello again - I still can't find this on the internet.  I am probably going to Kiev in September.  Would it be possible for you to scan and send the front cover and contents page so that I can show it in the music shops there to see if they have it?  I would be very grateful!!

I am no authority on Ludkevich but German wikipedia states he wrote three Piano Concertos.
Perhaps your problems depend on spelling, Christopher? English wikipedia spells him Stanyslav Lyudkevych.

I think my problems almost certainly depend on spelling.  The transliteration rules for Russian and Ukrainian are quite different, for example when an i is an i or a y, when to use a single or double consonant (Kosenko or Kossenko...), etc etc.  And then then they change again if you are transliterating into German or French or...!!  I won't bore you further, but needless to say it can make internet searches very complex!   If I saw the front cover of this CD, which is presumably in Ukrainian or Russian, I could type it straight into google.ru and order it from one of the many online CD shops here in Moscow!

For sure, two of Taranov's symphonic poems were recorded - Melodiya, if I recall:

Gouramyshvili, opus 32 (sym poem)
Three Monuments in C, opus 46 (sym poem)

The latter might not necessarily be classified as a symphonic poem.  That's where I put it in my database.

Jerry

A.S. - Fyrexia uploaded a recording, poss. not the same one? - timings might be compared- of the Barvinskyi/Barvinsky piano concerto - to his account (Youtube) - where he credits the soloists and performers as being Maria Krushelnitska and Orchestra of the Student Opera of the State (Mykola), if I understand right (perhaps "Mykola Lysenko Lviv State Academy of Music Orchestra"?)

Christopher- I rather like (some of the time) Google's spelling-flexible features.  Spelling is generally speaking -not even interlanguage; sometimes intralanguage - the bane of searching. (Consider in regards the latter, that the same title or proper name - especially, say, in the 19th century and earlier, but would that the 20th century were a breath of fresh air here - no... - was often spelled quite a few different ways on different musical scores by even the same publisher, sometimes, and certainly by different ones.  The USA Library of Congress, though it has a standardization-suggestions site, doesn't try to "shoehorn" its catalog the way many do, and catalogs by the actual author and title that appear (that the scanners and cataloguers* then sometimes misread the scores goes on not to help either, and hardly only at the Library of Congress- this is human error, or to be pretentious ;) , entropy at work...) - so... erm... well...

yes. flexible searching, whether between languages or within one's own, is your friend...

*for both of whose work and for whom I - not disingenuously but sincerely; it's tough work and done, from what communication I've had with these people and what little I know of them, out of love I daresay - have great admiration and respect. Librarians are in a profession I think very, very well of (and I am honored to be allowed to volunteer at...well, anyway..) But error comes with a job, being human and all'that!

Hello again - I still can't find this on the internet.  I am probably going to Kiev in September.  Would it be possible for you to scan and send the front cover and contents page so that I can show it in the music shops there to see if they have it?  I would be very grateful!!
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Christopher,

yes, I will scan the front and back cover (my copies are unfortunately black-and-white). It is in Ukrainian. the set was issued in 2006. It might be not so easy to find it in regular CD shops. My friend bought it just by case in one of the provincinal cities in Ukraine.
It is also difficult to name the label. on the back cover you can see: contact info: e-mail: m_perun@yahoo.com.
2006 "Seriya Dukhovna muzyka Ukrainy" = Artistic??? music of Ukraine series
of "ANDREI" foundation


and one interesting info on Ukrainian-Polish relations in life of Stanislav Ludkevich (Lyudkievich). He was born in the ciy of Jaroslav (Yaroslav) in 1879. Now Jaroslav is in Poland, in 19th century it was in a part of Poland under the Russian Empire. During 1919-39  Ludkevich was a lecturer of theory in the N. Lysenko High Musical Institute in Lvov - the city that till 1939 also was in Poland

Quote from: britishcomposer on Wednesday 31 August 2011, 09:38
I am no authority on Ludkevich but German wikipedia states he wrote three Piano Concertos.
Perhaps your problems depend on spelling, Christopher? English wikipedia spells him Stanyslav Lyudkevych.

I have found a site on Lyudkevich (in Ukrainian) and it mentions even only one pf cto of 1920/50
http://www.composersukraine.org/index.php?id=2412

as dos the Ukrainian wikipedia
http://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9B%D1%8E%D0%B4%D0%BA%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87_%D0%A1%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%96%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2_%D0%9F%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87

Hi Mark,

the following site mentions three piano concertos composed in 1920, 1931 and 1957 (even with keys):
http://www.russiancomposers.org.uk/page787.html
However, in case of Lyudkevych there is clearly a certain lack of accurate sources.

Regards,
Holger

Talking about ukrainian music and lacks of sufficient information. I have an unsolved question.
Ukrainian composer Levko Revutsky, composed a Piano Concerto Op.18.
It was then recorded on MELODIYA lp and released with 2 versions of it (i have 2 at least).
Well the concerto was released as op.18. And we all think that this is the only concerto he wrote. But the weird thing is the title of the score of the concerto. The score i have of the concerto titles "No.2 Koncert F-Dur".
So is there actually a no.1 concerto?

All best,

Tony

Off topic, but speaking of Concerto #2s did you know that Hyperion has squashed your YouTube of Kalkbrenner PC 2?  I thought that it had to be the same performance, recorded after the fact to be suppressed for copyright violation.

Quote from: fyrexia on Thursday 01 September 2011, 05:29
Talking about ukrainian music and lacks of sufficient information. I have an unsolved question.
Ukrainian composer Levko Revutsky, composed a Piano Concerto Op.18.
It was then recorded on MELODIYA lp and released with 2 versions of it (i have 2 at least).
All best,

Tony

Hi Tony!  Is this Revutsky piano concerto something that you could upload?  :)

Quote from: markniew on Wednesday 31 August 2011, 20:50


yes, I will scan the front and back cover (my copies are unfortunately black-and-white). It is in Ukrainian. the set was issued in 2006. It might be not so easy to find it in regular CD shops. My friend bought it just by case in one of the provincinal cities in Ukraine.
It is also difficult to name the label. on the back cover you can see: contact info: e-mail: m_perun@yahoo.com.
2006 "Seriya Dukhovna muzyka Ukrainy" = Artistic??? music of Ukraine series
of "ANDREI" foundation

Thank you very much for this Markniew!  By the way, "dukhovna" means spiritual, so I don't know why a collection of piano music would be called "Spiritual Music of Ukraine series"...!

Quote from: Christopher on Thursday 01 September 2011, 09:20

Quote from: fyrexia on Thursday 01 September 2011, 05:29
Talking about ukrainian music and lacks of sufficient information. I have an unsolved question.
Ukrainian composer Levko Revutsky, composed a Piano Concerto Op.18.
It was then recorded on MELODIYA lp and released with 2 versions of it (i have 2 at least).
All best,

Tony

Hi Tony!  Is this Revutsky piano concerto something that you could upload?  :)

You mean the score or the recording?

Quote from: JimL on Thursday 01 September 2011, 06:13
Off topic, but speaking of Concerto #2s did you know that Hyperion has squashed your YouTube of Kalkbrenner PC 2?  I thought that it had to be the same performance, recorded after the fact to be suppressed for copyright violation.

No, they never squashed my Kalkbrenner Pc 2. I just happen to not have it uploaded. And i cant now, because one of the movements is over 15 minutes. And i do not have the privilege to upload over 15 minutes. And the other reason is that its on my other HD, which is kinda damaged, so i am without possibilities of accessing it. But... i am still trying to find a way, because there is also my alexandrov pc audio score video and several more. Its really a hard job to do those things.

Tony

Quote from: fyrexia on Thursday 01 September 2011, 11:56

Quote from: Christopher on Thursday 01 September 2011, 09:20

Quote from: fyrexia on Thursday 01 September 2011, 05:29
Talking about ukrainian music and lacks of sufficient information. I have an unsolved question.
Ukrainian composer Levko Revutsky, composed a Piano Concerto Op.18.
It was then recorded on MELODIYA lp and released with 2 versions of it (i have 2 at least).
All best,

Tony

Hi Tony!  Is this Revutsky piano concerto something that you could upload?  :)

You mean the score or the recording?

I mean the recording - did you say you have two versions on LP?

Tony, How does one currently access your YouTube channel? 

Jerry

Christopher,

Yes i have two versions. One from lp. The other one i am not sure if its from lp or radio, but i really remember its also lp. Same pianist but with different conductors.

Jerry,

My youtube account now is www.youtube.com/user/fyrexianoff

All best,

Tony

Thank you very much for this Markniew!  By the way, "dukhovna" means spiritual, so I don't know why a collection of piano music would be called "Spiritual Music of Ukraine series"...!
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Hello

yes I know that "dukhovna" in Russian means spiritual but am not sure the same meaning in Ukrainian. so it is only my interpretatio thet it might also mean "sublime" or so i.e. artistic?
and one interesting thing - on the cover we have "vypusk 10" = release 10! perhaps there are at least 9 other sets with academic (as Russian call artistic/classical music) music?

Quote from: Holger on Wednesday 31 August 2011, 21:29
Hi Mark,

the following site mentions three piano concertos composed in 1920, 1931 and 1957 (even with keys):
http://www.russiancomposers.org.uk/page787.html
However, in case of Lyudkevych there is clearly a certain lack of accurate sources.

Regards,
Holger

Hi Holger,

thank you for the link. in fact they mention 3 pf ctos. I am not litarate in notes I cannot "decipher" the key of composition. and have a question; what is the key of the only one (?) recorded Lyudkevich's cto? Knowing that we can also know which one it is (what number).

best,
Marek

Quote from: markniew on Thursday 01 September 2011, 19:23
Hi Holger,

thank you for the link. in fact they mention 3 pf ctos. I am not litarate in notes I cannot "decipher" the key of composition. and have a question; what is the key of the only one (?) recorded Lyudkevich's cto? Knowing that we can also know which one it is (what number).

best,
Marek

Hi Marek,

the key of the only recorded Lyudkevych Piano Concerto is F sharp Minor, so according to the site I referred to it really must be his Piano Concerto No. 3.

By the way, I also have some other pieces by Lyudkevych on LP which I might consider uploading in the future – though time is spare this month.

Best,
Holger

[/quote]

Hello again - I still can't find this on the internet.  I am probably going to Kiev in September.  Would it be possible for you to scan and send the front cover and contents page so that I can show it in the music shops there to see if they have it?  I would be very grateful!!
[/quote]

Hello Christopher,

I put the title in Ukrainian in the Google search and found the site with a number of links - one shows front cover of the set

Marek
http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%B8+%D0%B3%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%86%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%97+%D1%84%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BF%D1%96%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%97+%D0%BC%D1%83%D0%B7%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

the key of the only recorded Lyudkevych Piano Concerto is F sharp Minor, so according to the site I referred to it really must be his Piano Concerto No. 3.

By the way, I also have some other pieces by Lyudkevych on LP which I might consider uploading in the future – though time is spare this month.

Best,
Holger
[/quote]

Thank you Holger. it's strange that two Soviet books I have got do mention only two ctos of 1920/50 and 1957! they list some compositions of 1963, 64 and even 1973.

Marek

Quote from: fyrexia on Thursday 01 September 2011, 14:04
Christopher,

Yes i have two versions. One from lp. The other one i am not sure if its from lp or radio, but i really remember its also lp. Same pianist but with different conductors.

Jerry,

My youtube account now is www.youtube.com/user/fyrexianoff

All best,

Tony

Thanks for this Tony. Is the Revulsky on your youtube channel?

Christopher,

Yes it is.
Evgeny Rzhanov / Ukraine SSR State SO / Yuri Nikonenko

just search revutsky piano concerto on youtube.

Tony

  Would it be possible for you to scan and send the front cover and contents page so that I can show it in the music shops there to see if they have it?  I would be very grateful!!
[/quote]


Hello Christopher,

please find the link to dowload  scan of the cover of the Ukrainian CD

Piano Music of Galitsia.pdf (524.9 KB)

Use the following link to retrieve your file:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/iv5c0e

best,
Marek

Hi A.S,

your posts in the Soviet Music folder show you have a great deal of this music in your collection ( and thank you for being so active in sharing your music), so do I and I'm still interested in finding more music of this kind. regarding the symphonies there still are ar least 3 Melodiyas I never ecountered  so far :

Bafoev Symphony no.2 C10 24383
Gadzhiev, D Symphony no.3 C10 31265
Mukkathov Serdar Symphony no 2

I'm pretty sure you already have Gadzhiev's fourth (and Rauf Gadzhiev's first as well) but you might be interested in his fifth + a Symphonic Poem :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQD-8BsdQKg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQD-8BsdQKg)

  Hi Sicmu

  Thank you very much you interest in my uploads.
  But sorry, I don't have symphonies that you mention.
  Especially, I hope to listen Gadzhiev's 3rd.

  By the way , I have next music by Melodiya LP
  I will digitize and upload little by little at my free time in weekend.


  Alexander Arutiunian  Symphony C minor (1957, rev 1980)
     Symphony Orchestra of Great All-Union Radio and TV  cond Valery Gergiev    (This is maybe broadcast?)

  V. Adigezalov (1935-): Symphony #3.
    ZANNER, Berlin RSO. Festive Overture. MELIK-ASLANOV, Central RSO S10 19127/8 S

  G. Akhinian (1926-): Symphony #2; Trombone Concerto (FAFIKIN). MANGASARYAN, Armenian RSO.   S10 13083/4 S

  Vladislav Agafonnikov (b.1936)
    Symphony "In Memory of Shebalin" (1976) Vladimir Fedoseyev/Moscow Radio Television Symphony Orchestra
    MELODIYA C10-21881 (LP) (1984)

  Nikita Bogoslovsky (1913-2004)
    Symphony No.6 in E flat major (1982) Symphony No.7 in C Major (1984)
    Alexander Petukhov/Moscow Radio and Television Variety Symphony MELODIYA S10 23393 009 (LP) (1986)

  VLADIMIR CHERNYAVSKY(b. 1947)Symphony #1 "Nomads"
    Gennady Rozhdestvensky/USSR Ministry of Culture Symphony Orchestra MELODIYA S10-29269 (LP) (1989)

  VLADIMIR BUNIN (1908-1970) Symphony No. 1 in E minor (1943)
    Konstantin Ivanov/Moscow Radio Symphony Orchestra  MELODIYA D 028811-2 (LP) (1970)

  Gregori Egiazaryan (1908-1988, Armenia)
    Symphony in B minor "Razdan" (1960) Boris Khaikhin/Moscow Radio Symphony Orchestra MELODIYA D 015589 (LP) (1965)

  Orest Evlakhov (Yevlakhov) (1912-1973)
     Symphony No.3 in F minor, Op.35 (1967) Arvid Jansons/Leningrad Philharmonic Orchestra MELODIYA SM 04035-5 (LP) (1973)

  ROBERT GAZIZOV (b. 1939)
     Symphony No. 1 (1980) Igor Shtegman/Moscow State Symphony Orchestra MELODIYA S10 25195 001 (LP) (1981)

  FELIX GLONTI(b. 1927, GEORGIA)
     Symphony #1 in F sharp minor "The World's Horizons" (1961, revised 1974 as "Romantic Symphony")
     MELODIYA S10-06389-90 (LP)

  VITALY GUBARENKO (HUBARENKO)(1934-2000, UKRAINE)
    Symphony No. 1 in G minor (1962)   Igor Blazhkov/Moscow Radio Symphony Orchestra
    MELODIYA S30 04801-2 (LP) (1974)

  Artur Kapp (1878-1952, Estonia)
     Symphony No.4 "Youth Symphony" (1984) Neeme Jarvi/Estonian Radio Symphony Orchestra

  KAREN KHACHATURIAN(b. 1920)
     Symphony No. 2 (1968)   Alexander Lazarev/USSR State Academic Symphony Orchestra

  Eduard Khagagortian (1930-1983, Armenia)　Symphony No.4 (1973)
     Valery Gergiev/Armenian State Symphony Orchestra    MELODIYA C10 21553 005 (LP) (1984)

  DUDAR KHAKHANOV(b. 1921) Symphony No. 6 for Symphony Orchestra and Voice (1982)
     Rumma Dzhagkayeva (mezzo)/Pavel Yadikh/North Ossetian SSR State Symphony Orchestra
     MELODIYA S10-23697 004 (LP) (1986)

  A. Melnikov (1933-): Symphonies #2   MELNIKOV, Central RSO (#2);

  Veli Mukhatov (1916-2005, Turkmenistan)
     Symphony No.2 "Heroic" (1984) Gennady Rozhdestvesnsky/USSR Ministry of Culture Symphony Orchestra

  Vano Muradeli (1908-1970, Georgia)
     Symphony No.1 in B minor "In memory of S.I. Kirov" (1938)
        Konstantin Ivanov/USSR State Symphony Orchestra MELODIYA S0621-2 (LP) (1963)
     Symphony No.2 in D major "War of Liberation" (1945-6)
        Vasily Nebolsin/Moscow Radio Symphony Orchestra

  Adolfs Skulte
    Symphony No.5 (1974)  Latvian National Symphony Orchestra  Alexander Vilumanis, conductor  Melodia C10 13685-6

  VLADIMIR ZOLOTUKHIN  (1936-1996, UKRAINE)    Symphony No. 1 (1970)    ( + Concert Overture)     
      Vadim  Gnedash/Ukrainian Radio Television Symphony OrchestraMELODIYA SM 03943-4 (LP) (1973)

  Medins, Janis: Victory of Love ballet excs/ Yazep Medins: Sym 3 - cond.Vigner S. MELODIYA CM 2647

  Pavil Rivilis (Moldavian, b. 1936): Symphony No. 2 in B flat major Children's (1965).
        Moldavian State Philharmonic Symphony  Orchestra Timofei Gurtovoi, conductor. Melodiya D-021823/24 / monaural / released 1968

 
   Best

   A.S

 

AS, thanks for the list of composers and dates - it filled in quite a gap in my database.  According to my records, Akhinian died in 1991.

Most of this music is beyond my comprehension but many Lps were sent to me during the Cold War from a friend in the Moscow who was trading Melodiyas, mostly, for western opera recordings. 

Jerry

  Jerry

  Thank you to tell me Akhinian's information.
 
  I bought these LPs from Parnussus records in US and Russian collectors (http://rarerv.narod.ru/ (http://rarerv.narod.ru/)).
  But I don't have many recordings by Melodiya.
  Especially I hope to these

  Abaliovich, Lev     Symphony No.2
  Aladov, Nikolai     Symphony No.10
  Astvatsatryan, Levon   Symphony No. 1 "Soviet" (1947)
  Chalayev, Shirvali   Symphony No.1 in c "Mountains and People"
  Dominchen, Klimentiy    Symphony No.1 in d min. (1940)
  Gadzhibekov, Soltan     Symphony No.1
  Gonchiksumla, S    Symphony No.1 Op.21
  Kholminov, Alexander  Symphony No.1 Op.46


  I hope someone uploads these recordings someday.


  Best

  A.S
 
 

Quote from: A.S on Thursday 15 September 2011, 16:17
  Jerry

  Thank you to tell me Akhinian's information.
 
  I bought these LPs from Parnussus records in US and Russian collectors (http://rarerv.narod.ru/ (http://rarerv.narod.ru/)).
  But I don't have many recordings by Melodiya.
  Especially I hope to these

  Abaliovich, Lev     Symphony No.2
  Aladov, Nikolai     Symphony No.10
  Astvatsatryan, Levon   Symphony No. 1 "Soviet" (1947)
  Chalayev, Shirvali   Symphony No.1 in c "Mountains and People"
  Dominchen, Klimentiy    Symphony No.1 in d min. (1940)
  Gadzhibekov, Soltan     Symphony No.1
  Gonchiksumla, S    Symphony No.1 Op.21
  Kholminov, Alexander  Symphony No.1 Op.46


  I hope someone uploads these recordings someday.


  Best

  A.S
 

thank you for letting me know about your upload plans : so I will post different soviet works including the ones from your wishlist (I have all these).

  Wonderful!
  Thank a lot Sicmu.
  I'm looking forward to your uploads :D
 

   A.S

what is the Lokshin recordings/broadcast situation? :)

  Hi Arbuckle

  Thank you for your uploads.
  These women composer's works are very interest for me.
  Especially, I hear first time both Saidaminova and Zhubinskaya works.
  Thanks again these treasure recordings ;)


  A.S

Vartazarian, Martin (1938-    )
Mansurian, Tigran (1939-    )

If this is missing information for you.

Jerry

Thx for the Melikian : I played the String Quartet and  I think it sounds very much like...Moeran ! I also noticed something similar when listening to Gonchiksumla's Symphonies : they sound like VW because of the same modal treatment of the harmony ( the Melikian is also mostly modal). Maybe we should now sort the music by harmonic criterias, just a thought...  ::)

Sorry..but today's link to the Knipper Symphony No.13 does not seem to be working :(

Messages from both AS and Dundonnell to the effect that the link to Knipper 13 did not work. I have deleted the file and uploaded it once more with a new URL. I hope that this link works. I have absolutely no idea why or how this happens. When I uploaded three Clapp pieces in the same session I did the identical thing with each - two at first worked, the other didn't. Please let me know about this one. Best from Shamokin88.

The download works now :)

Pretty awful sound quality....but that is not your fault ;D

Quote from: Dundonnell on Friday 30 September 2011, 16:42

Lyev Knipper: Symphony #13 in c [1960] USSR State Radio O/Lyev Knipper; Melodiya D 3030/31

Congratulations for having that one : this is probably one of the rarest Melodiyas ever, I think that like Myaskovsky, Knipper deserves a new recording of his complete symphonyc cycle ( 20 symphonies !).

Arbuckle - thank you for that beautiful symphony by Gonchiksumla - shades of Vaughan Williams. It has kept me company in the early hours. The name doesn't seem to appear on the web - can you tell me anything about him/her, or about the symphony? Maybe there's an alternative spelling?

Cribbed info on Gonchiksumla

Sambyn Gonchiksumla (Mong. Sembiyn Gonchigsumlaa) - Mongolian composer. One of the founders of the national professional school of composition. Chairman of the Composers' Union MPR since its inception (1964) The formation of the musical language was influenced by G. traditions of European, Russian and Soviet classics, as well as music of his native country of Mongolia. National character is manifested in the writings Gonchiksumly plasticity of musical phrases, based on short melodies of folk songs in the pentatonic scale, asymmetry in the structure of the music the stanza, in the vicinity of the epic melodies of traditional Mongolian steppe lingering song "urt-duu" that has a large range, complex rhythmic . figure, richly ornamented melody (melisma, and tremolo mn.)

I think one can upload a troubled file under the same URL, by the way, under certain conditions- not others (if it's a MIMEtype problem - e.g. if one uploaded it with a unicode-flat in the filename as I did at first with the Wellesz first movement - forget-about-it, it's delete and reupload time; otherwise one can 
upload a new file and sort-of-merge, having the link to the old file point to the new file instead of having to rewrite the link, a mediafire feature explained onsite. But the files do have to be of the same filetype.)

Esinov? Odd- that name seems to be associated with a filmmaker, not a conductor- perhaps he was a person of many hats, not unknown I suppose, or of course the name might attach to several (maybe related) heads, too.  Very little information online about the conductor or composer (aside from what you have provided above- I like adding birthyear etc. when I can to the "composer" field- on my own, I mean...! - but sometimes this is not a possibility) of that particular LP (as spelled there) that I can find. (And I don't have a copy of The Melodiia Discography though the university library up 1000 feet from me or so does. :)  Though I haven't yet checked musicsack or viaf... I wonder- why not...)

Bingo.

MusicSack (http://musicsack.com/PersonFMTDetail.cfm?PersonPK=100043851) -- Gontschiksumla, Sambin , or Gontschik-Sumla, Sambyn - born 18 February 1905 in Bain-Chongor, Mongolia. (etc.) However:

VIAF (http://viaf.org/viaf/12571988) has two entries for him both with birthyear 1915.

Esipov, misstransliterated the letter.

Friends, thank you for finding out about Mr Gontschiksumla ..... Mongolian! Amazing! Those alternative spellings do make it difficult. Thanks, too, for the correction on the conductor. The middle section of the symphony is especially seductive.

The internet has enabled us to discover and share music of all kinds on a vast scale, and it still amazes me. I doubt that a fraction of the music available via this forum would ever have been heard by us before the internet appeared - and this is a case in point.  :)

Having a lot of difficulty getting iTunes to play some of these mp3 files though (Quicktime player will do so, though, so this is just a problem if I want to catalog them and store them on my iPod I suppose). Not sure why, and maybe the problem will resolve after "Step 1: Reboot your machine" ! - will obliterate this section of the post if so.
Musicsack and VIAF are fallible but really useful I find (the latter collates? and makes searchable the contents of a very large number of government library biographical authority databases among, I think, other things. It's a little difficult to learn how to use but worthwhile.)

Another small point as in the Romanian folder, trying with some difficulty to find some definite information about the commonly accepted transliteration of Mikhail Yakovlevich Kalachevsky's name (there seem to be several variants in common use) and details about his 2nd, "Ukrainian" symphony. Apparently may not have been published until 1966 or so, despite composition in 1876- hrm. (Am curious about that if only because I might want to see the score uploaded to IMSLP if possible. Though if it's an Urtext it might still be possible- depends on legal specifics...) Will try to find the movement names, though (unless they're somewhere there and I'm just missing them.)

Hi,

the difficulties regarding spelling in case of Kalachevsky are partly because he was Ukrainian and the transcription from Ukrainian as well as the actual names slightly differ from the Russian versions. Kalachevsky may also be written as Mykhailo Kalachevsky, for example.

You don't have to search for the movement titles of his Ukrainian Symphony (isn't it his only one? never saw it labled as No. 2 before) as I have them:

I. Poco andante. Allegro
II. Intermezzo. Scherzando
III. Andante con moto
IV. Finale

Well- I think only one source only referred to it as his 2nd symphony, in which case the first if there was a first it may well be lost...
(Though who knows what's at the Russian State Library that's hard to find elsewhere- lots of stuff based on evidence so far. Publishing activity in Russia in the 19th century, both of composers in the area and republishing from composers of more central European countries, was - quite a lot - and with many minor publishers to supplement and to precede the better-known Belaieff and Jurgenson. This is becoming clearer as they, like some other national libraries, have undertaken a large digital scanning project lately the products of which are beginning to  show up on IMSLP. Anyhow. :) Have I mentioned I love libraries...  ) Thanks!

As for A.S' upload of Anatoly Lepin's Third Piano Concerto, the orchestra is the Latvian Radio and TV Symphony Orchestra (which is from all I know today's Latvian National Symphony Orchestra).

I knew this piece before (but as there were some stylus problems in the finale I downloaded your version nevertheless): it's rather crazy because Lepin mixes so much different influences which even go back to Bach in parts of the finale, but the result is definitely fun.

Some additional detail:

Anatoly Lepin (1907-1984), though born in Russia, spent a number of years in Latvia during the Soviet occupation, and was known there as Anatolijs Liepiņš. During his time there, he wrote what became the Soviet Latvian anthem (which was quickly discarded upon Latvian independence in favor of the much-loved pre-occupation anthem by Kārlis Baumanis). Interestingly, while Sinaisky, the conductor on this record, is still held in good regard in Latvia, Lepin's music has entirely disappeared. Though I haven't had occasion to discuss Lepin with Latvian musical colleagues, I can only surmise that he was part of the attempted Russification of local culture in the ethnic republics in the 1950s and 1960s in the USSR.

I agree, Holger, Lepin's 3rd Piano Concerto is a crazy mix of styles and influences, but certainly fun. Perhaps similar to Schnittke's polystylism, but more superficial?

That's an interesting thought! Maybe Lepin's polystilism might be regarded as some kind of "Soviet" or "official" polystilism as opposed to Schnittke (as a dissident)? However, as I know hardly anything about Lepin as a person that's probably something one should be careful about. Nevertheless, the Concerto in total does have its traits which seem to fit up to some degree. The second theme in the first movement resembles Kabalevsky's three Concertos for the Soviet Youth from around 1950 in some way, for example.

It's quite interesting what you tell about his role in Latvian music culture in the course of the years.

BTW- Muradeli symphony 2 -
#Adagio-Allegro fervido,
#Adagio sostenuto,
#Allegro moderato,
#Allegro vivo

Admittedly that's 4 movements to the 5 we have, and the 5 we have don't seem to divide into an introduction and main movement - ok... wait... what (I wonder if I can find the score of symphony 2 and check it against this. Track 4's opening sounds finale-ish though track 5 sounds even moreso. Maybe there are different versions of the piece and (possibly) the above listing, from the Dutch Royal Library listings, is for a different version.-ES )

Problem in the above comment solved- the 2nd and 3rd files together make up the "Adagio sostenuto" 2nd movement of the Muradeli 2nd symphony. (An EBay page lists the 2nd symphony together with its total timings:
#Adagio - Allegro fervido (19:06)
#Adagio sostenuto (12:24) (or, files 2 and 3 put together)
#Allegro moderato (7:37)
#Allegro vivo (8:32)

Also (sorry...) for such as are interested the Catoire/Katuar/Катуар piano quartet score and parts can be found at http://imslp.org/wiki/Piano_Quartet,_Op.31_(Catoire,_Georgy) (http://imslp.org/wiki/Piano_Quartet,_Op.31_(Catoire,_Georgy)).

Looking forward to hearing the (Veli/Weli/Welimuhammet) Mukhatov first, btw- saw a mention of it when looking up older recordings by Sinaisky (presumably? Vassily, not his father...). Thanks again!

Quote from: eschiss1 on Monday 10 October 2011, 06:04
Looking forward to hearing the (Veli/Weli/Welimuhammet) Mukhatov first, btw- saw a mention of it when looking up older recordings by Sinaisky (presumably? Vassily, not his father...). Thanks again!

From all I know, there is only one conductor named Sinaisky, and that's Vassiliy Sinaisky, born in 1947. He has done a large number of recordings (Melodiya, Chandos) and conducted many different orchestras, for instance the Latvian NSO as well as the BBC Philharmonic.

Apart from that, I can also upload a recording of Mukhatov's / Muhadow's Symphony No. 2, which has appeared on Melodiya as well. Moreover, I am going to upload the Chalayev and Gadzhibekov / Hacıbəyov symphonies which A.S requested in near future.

Amongst the torrent of Russian and Soviet Music that has been so generously made available for download I had hoped to see some more Maximilian Steinberg.

As has been pointed out in a separate thread, DGG gave up on Steinberg after issuing his first two very early symphonies. The three later symphonies-
No. 3(1928), No.4 'Turksib'(1933) or No.5 'Symphonic Rhapsody on Uzbek Themes'(1942)- don't seem to have made it to cd or indeed to have ever been recorded on LP.
Steinberg was an important teacher but also a significant composer and his neglect seems very surprising.

The Fourth Symphony was available on here but the file is now locked as "private".

Dundonnell, Maximilian Steinberg is definitely a really nice composer and I also regret DGG gave up their Steinberg series which would have been much appreciated.

I have that recording of Steinberg's Fourth (not from this site but directly from the one who recorded it), it's a pity the beginning is missing (and posts above seem to indicate there is even more missing than I actually assumed). I still hope to find somebody else from GB who recorded the whole piece!

I don't know about any LP recordings of Steinbergs music in fact. No idea whether Melodiya really skipped him - however we must keep in mind the amount of Soviet composers is really overwhelming, so although Melodiya recorded quite a lot it's inevitable there are still large gaps.

Looking up Dmytro Lvovich Klebanof suggests he's slightly better known for his first symphony "Babyn Yar" (which may now be available in a reissued or new performance on CD on TNC Recordings???). (There is also a scherzo for string quartet uploaded, PD-US only of course since he died in 1987, to IMSLP via Sibley Library. - http://imslp.org/wiki/Scherzo_for_String_Quartet_(Klebanov,_Dmitri_Lvovich) (http://imslp.org/wiki/Scherzo_for_String_Quartet_(Klebanov,_Dmitri_Lvovich)) ) . From the linked Wikipedia article one sees that the 3rd symphony linked is (estimated?) as having been composed( published? composed, i think) in 1956.

My information is that Melodyia never recorded any of Steinberg's later three symphonies.

It is odd given that Steinberg was one of Shostakovich's teachers and was a highly influential figure in the 1920s and 1940s. If Shebalin then why not Steinberg?

I think that I recall reading somewhere that the fact that Steinberg was Jewish did him no favours in Stalin's Russia but he kept his post at the Leningrad Conservatory until 1939.

as to Steinberg, his arrangements and editions (of Rimsky and of works attributed to CPE Bach ("probably by Henri Casadesus", says the library)) -do- seem to have been recorded in the LP era (the latter by Vanguard, I think, though that could be a reissue??).

(A recent Stravinsky biography has a very interesting account of the rivalry between those two Rimsky pupils, one notes, for next rising composer of Russia/the USSR- I think I oversimplify more than a little, yes...- which neither won, as Stravinsky left and Steinberg despite some brief success, well...!) Myaskovsky did admire Steinberg sufficiently (I first heard of Steinberg on learning that a favorite Myaskovsky symphony was dedicated to him, and then that Myaskovsky arranged several of Steinberg's orchestral works, including the latter's 3rd symphony, for piano duet.)

Also, a 4-CD set of Unreleased Melodiya Recordings, Volume 2 (on BMG/Melodiia, 1998) contained among other things two excerpts from Steinberg's ballet Till Eulenspiegel (1936)... it would seem that even when his music was recorded, it was not issued. You would seem to be right.

As for Klebanov, the only symphony which has been issued on LP or CD is his Third. My own list says it is from 1958 but I wouldn't be too sure about that. However, I also have a recording of Klebanov's Symphony No. 1 with the Students' Orchestra of the University of Kharkhiv under the baton of Paltadzhian. The problem is that I lack information about its source (though I don't think it's a commercial one). Certainly, it is remarkable Klebanov composed a symphony about Babyn Yar as soon as in 1945/46, and in fact he soon got into trouble because of this piece. I quite like it but I don't think it's a masterpiece - alas, the finale is even rather weak in my view as it falls into pieces. Nevertheless, it remains a courageous work.

Melodiya really did not record any of Steinberg's symphonies - as in case of Shebalin, as it has to be said (the Olympia CDs are not based on Melodiyas as far as I know), with the only exception of the latter's "Lenin" Dramatic Symphony. I have no clue about the background. My impression is that in general living composers were favoured by Melodiya but that's only one aspect of course.

Well, that wouldn't explain Shebalin who was alive and composing (despite a stroke- correction, several) fairly late- and while they didn't record his numbered symphonies, they did record the Borodin Quartet in a fine (and reissued recently) account of one of his quartets, e.g. (Here I take issue with the Wikipedia article which describes his last work as full of life. I thought his last work was his briefly partly serial 9th quartet which is also emphatically anguished and depressing though mostly within his usual style and etc. ... (and recommended if you can find a recording- I have the Olympia which may not have been reissued by anyone... or may have been... don't know. Should be, though. ))

I think a general explanation is hard to give in this context - the 'living composers' argument is just a tendency in fact and no attempt to clarify all issues. They also recorded Shebalin's Piano Trio, for instance, or two of his Suites for Orchestra and so on.

Maybe there is some truth about the 'Jewish assumption' in case of Steinberg. On the other hand I just emphasize that in fact, there were really thousands of Soviet composers, and consequently there are huge masses of pieces which were not recorded even if their composers enjoyed considerable fame, that's nothing too special.

Quote from: Dundonnell on Monday 10 October 2011, 14:25
Amongst the torrent of Russian and Soviet Music that has been so generously made available for download I had hoped to see some more Maximilian Steinberg.

There are a couple of pieces by Steinberg recorded on a Historical Russian Archives box set of music conducted by Mravinsky.  There are 10 CDs in it and on Amazon it is selling for $100!  Please see my thread elsewhere about the iniquity of box-sets!!  http://www.amazon.com/Historical-Russian-Archives-Evgeny-Mravinsky/dp/B00152CA32/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1318333287&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Historical-Russian-Archives-Evgeny-Mravinsky/dp/B00152CA32/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1318333287&sr=8-1)

The pieces (apparently on CD3) are:
9. Dance of the Buffons (2:44)
10. Dance of Gillina (3:12)

Is anyone going to fork out $100 for 5 mins 56 secs of Steinberg?!

Quote from: Dundonnell on Monday 10 October 2011, 14:25
Amongst the torrent of Russian and Soviet Music that has been so generously made available for download I had hoped to see some more Maximilian Steinberg.

As has been pointed out in a separate thread, DGG gave up on Steinberg after issuing his first two very early symphonies. The three later symphonies-
No. 3(1928), No.4 'Turksib'(1933) or No.5 'Symphonic Rhapsody on Uzbek Themes'(1942)- don't seem to have made it to cd or indeed to have ever been recorded on LP.
The Fourth Symphony was available on here but the file is now locked as "private".

The fourth symphony is available here - http://intoclassics.net/news/2009-09-10-8726  (http://intoclassics.net/news/2009-09-10-8726) - but I don't know if that is a link that passes the copyright rules of this site....

I'm afraid that I can't figure out the source of that recording, so downloader beware!

It says BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra, conductor Aleksandr Vedernikov....

Шотландский симфонический оркестр Би-Би-Си
дирижёр Александр Ведерников

When I put "steinberg vedernikov bbc turksib" into a search engine, it gives only one link, that I can't open, as follows:

search results: Neeme Järvi -《施泰因贝格：第二交响曲及 ...- Translate
--Maximilian Steinberg (1883 - 1946) 马克 ... 1932 Fourth Symphony, dubbed Turksib in ... well have heard tapes of the BBC's 1994 broadcast by the BBCPO and Alexander Vedernikov.
www.verycd.com/topics/132432

I am pretty sure that I know where the Steinberg download comes from. A friend of mine, who is a very ambitious collector of Soviet repertoire, once recorded the symphony from the radio (but started the tape too late so that the beginning is missing). He shared the music with me and some other people, and it was also posted on shostakovich.ning.com. Now, some people there also use to share music on intoclassics (which is altogether quite a dubious site with severe copyright violations indeed). One of them is the guy who posted the Steinberg symphony there. This will be the same recording which was posted above (maybe just in another upload version, but anyway). It is really interesting how far music can spread if once uploaded somewhere. I also know that quite a bunch of Soviet repertoire on YouTube is actually taken from my collection in my own LP transfers, though I never uploaded anything on YouTube (nor gave permission).

Christopher- yes, those two tracks are the excerpts from his ballet Till Eulenspiegel composed in (or ca.?) 1936. There used to be a smaller collection one could buy them in apparently.

Regarding the Shcherbachov Symphony No.2:

The first two links worked ok but the other three are 'invalid', I regret to report.

Quote from: Dundonnell on Wednesday 12 October 2011, 14:07
Regarding the Shcherbachov Symphony No.2:

The first two links worked ok but the other three are 'invalid', I regret to report.

Shcherbachov's Symphony No.2 is available from eMusic for 3 bucks or so :

http://www.emusic.com/listen/#/album/American-Symphony-Orchestra-Shcherbachev-Symphony-No-2-Blokovskaya-MP3-Download/12659083.html: (http://www.emusic.com/listen/#/album/American-Symphony-Orchestra-Shcherbachev-Symphony-No-2-Blokovskaya-MP3-Download/12659083.html:)

note from Shamokin88: I have deleted and replaced movements 3, 4 and 5 of Shcherbachev 2. A nuisance but I will persevere. Best to all.

Quote from: shamokin88 on Wednesday 12 October 2011, 14:52
note from Shamokin88: I have deleted and replaced movements 3, 4 and 5 of Shcherbachev 2. A nuisance but I will persevere. Best to all.

Works fine now, thanks :)

Holger - thank you for the 1st symphony of Hacıbəyov (in my catalogue as Hajibeyov!). I think it's an interesting and enjoyable work. It certainly makes big demands of the orchestra - the horn section gets a real workout, and there's never a dull moment!

Shamokin88 here. I have been asked why the date, conductor's name, et cetera, have been struck through for the Shcherbachev 2nd. I have no idea. The information is correct. I suspect I'm simply not yet familiar with the various settings and messed it up somehow. Best.

Quote from: semloh on Wednesday 12 October 2011, 22:14
Holger - thank you for the 1st symphony of Hacıbəyov (in my catalogue as Hajibeyov!). I think it's an interesting and enjoyable work. It certainly makes big demands of the orchestra - the horn section gets a real workout, and there's never a dull moment!

Hacıbəyov was quite a talented composer in general! I also think his First Symphony is really interesting. It partly reminds me of his symphonic images (Caravan etc.), and my feeling is that the imagery of this symphony is strongly linked to Azerbaijan (also since he chose a two movements structure).

As for spelling, the issue is of course that in times of the Soviet Union a Cyrillic writing system was used (and Russian language), while in our days Azerbaijan has forwarded the use of their national language as well as a basically Latin writing system. I think there were some ambiguities in the first years but today things seem to rather fixed. It's Qara Qarayev, Fikrət Əmirov or Soltan Hacıbəyov. The 'ə' is a special letter which can alternatively be written as 'ä'.

Holger - yes, Caravan is a colourful piece - absolutely no doubt what he's got in his mind's eye! Now I've listened to it again, I must listen again to the symphony. :)

I want to thank for the Darzins Piano Concerto No.2.
I have been travelling to much, that i have not been online to check whats going on around here and youtube.
I am right now in a border city called Santana Do livramento in brazil that borders uruguay, whose city is called Rivera.
And over here i had the pleasure to share and talk music with a uruguayan unfamous pianist called Pedro Dominguez. He studied during the 70s with Nadia Boulanger and performed several of her works in Brazil.
Also thanks for everyone posting some interesting symphonies.

Tony

Always happy to hear more Bortkiewicz. Thanks very much in anticipation, Herrarte.

Thanks for letting me share. Download link is up.
Hope you like what you hear.

Cheers,

I'm listening to Othello as I type - what a great way to start a Sunday morning. Thanks so much!

Oh yes, a great collection - I know I'll enjoy......

Jerry

Quote from: herrarte on Sunday 16 October 2011, 00:02
Thanks for letting me share. Download link is up.
Hope you like what you hear.

Cheers,

Thank you VERY much Herrarte for uploading so much Bortkiewicz (the suites).  I've done an audit of which orchestral and operatic works have and have not (apparently) been recorded, as below.  Can you or anyone else add extra information? I'm particularly keen to hear the Russian Rhapsody. It seems that the "Philharmonia" Academic Symphony Orchestra of Chernigov, conducted by Mykola Sukach, has been particularly assiduous in recording his works.  Does anyone have any leads there? (Do they have a website?)

Symphony No.1 in D Major "From my Homeland", Op. 52    RECORDED
Symphony No.2 in E flat Major, Op. 55    RECORDED
Othello, Op. 19    RECORDED
Piano concerto No. 1, Op. 16   RECORDED
Cello concerto, Op. 20   RECORDED
Violin concerto, Op. 22   RECORDED
Piano concerto no. 2 for the left hand only, Op.28   RECORDED
Pianoconcerto no. 3 'per aspera ad astra', Op.32   RECORDED
Österreichische Suite for String Orchestra, Op. 51    RECORDED
Overture for Orchestra, Op. 53    RECORDED
Jugoslawische Suite for Orchestra, Op. 58    RECORDED
Arabische Nächte, Op. 37    RECORDED
"Des Frühlings und des Pans Erwachen, Op.44   NO INFORMATION
Russische Rhapsodie for piano and orchestra, Op.45   NO INFORMATION
Russische Tänze for Orchestra, Op. 18    NO INFORMATION
Träume, Fantasy for Orchestra, Op. 34    NO INFORMATION
Die Akrobaten (Opera), Op. 50    NO INFORMATION
"Hafis Songs" after Hans Bethge for singer and orchestra, Op.43    NO INFORMATION
Seven Songs for voice and orchestra (no Op.No.)     NO INFORMATION 
Olympic Scherzo for orchestra (no Op.No.)     NO INFORMATION 
Symphony No. 3 (unfinished; sketches only)     NO INFORMATION 
Two Songs, arranged for voice and string orchestra (no Op.No.)   NO INFORMATION 
Three Pieces for cello and orchestra, Op.25A  NO INFORMATION 
Heitere Suite for orchestra, Op. 57   NO INFORMATION


Are the Suites complete, or are there parts which are not included?  For example, I notice that the Thousand and One Nights suites has numbers 1 through 9 but misses number 8.  Also - in lists of Bortkiewicz's orchestral compositions available online, there is no mention of "Childhood, suite for string orchestra", though there is a piano suite (in 14 parts) called this - did Bortkiewicz orchestrate it himself?

I just love that Childhood Suite by Bortkiewicz .... so easy on the ear and splendidly orchestrated!  :) :)

Is everyone satisfied that it actually is Bortkiewicz, given that it doesn't appear anywhere in lists of hos works? ???

http://home.wanadoo.nl/ovar/bortkiewicz.htm (http://home.wanadoo.nl/ovar/bortkiewicz.htm)
Opus 39b- Orchestration of 6 pieces from Kindheit for string orchestra (and doesn't say whether orchestration was done by composer though I assume that if it's in the list, it was done by the composer.) I'm guessing what you/we have is opus 39b. What I don't know, is Mr. v. Rijen's source...

Ah, well done, eschiss1!  :)
It would be good to find support for Mr. v. Rijen's attribution elsewhere, but it sounds right. ;D

According to this page http://home.wanadoo.nl/ovar/bortkiewicz.htm (http://home.wanadoo.nl/ovar/bortkiewicz.htm) Op.39 is comprised of 14 pieces, the recorded Childhood Suite is missing the following ones

2, Mother
3, Father
4, Grischka, the wandering monk
6, Childhood
7, Natalia Sawischna
9, Robinson Crusoe
12, Quadrille and
13 Mazurka.

If you listened to the Suite and know the order of the pieces you know already that the order is messed up,  because it goes 1, 14, 5, 8, 10, and 11. I don't know if Bortkiewicz arranged it for String Orchestra.

The Arabian Suite as recorded here is missing piece No 8 Dance of the Three Sisters.

I have no info on the Yugoslav Suite and the names of the pieces.
The Rhapsody for Piano and Orchestra has been recorded by Bhagwan Thadani I see but can't tell you how to acquire it unless you go to his page here http://www.oocities.org/vienna/strasse/7136/ (http://www.oocities.org/vienna/strasse/7136/), it seems that his page here is outdated.

The Acrobats, Op.50, his Piano Trio Op.38, his Six Preludes Op.66 according to http://ingp0040.home.xs4all.nl/ (http://ingp0040.home.xs4all.nl/) are still missing, so no luck there.

If you want more info on his recorded music go here (You were asking for a site devoted to him)http://ingp0040.home.xs4all.nl/ (http://ingp0040.home.xs4all.nl/). So far the only recorded Opus of what you mention above is what I posted, maybe somebody living in the Ukraine or with access to Ukrainian Radio Broadcasts can contribute more to this topic.

Cheers,

herrarte

erm, according to the same page the string orchestra (op.39_b_) version of the Childhood suite is only of 6 pieces from the piano suite- he didn't orchestrate the whole thing. That would be why it's missing pieces, it's not an incomplete recording. Or am I misunderstanding?

All of Skulte's nine Symphonies were recorded by Melodyia.

Nos. 1 and 7 have been kindly made available so far and I think Atushi promises us No.5?

Are there any more available? :)

QuoteAll of Skulte's nine Symphonies were recorded by Melodyia.

Sorry, Dundonnell, that is sadly not the case. The only Skulte symphonies recorded by Melodiya were 3, 4, 5, and 7. The other five were recorded by Latvian Radio for broadcast, but no performance of any of them has ever been commercially released. I'm sure I and others on this forum can manage to get all of them uploaded at some point, however.

Indeed, my mistake.

I read "LP Melodyia" on Onno van Rijen's website to mean what its says....but now I notice that there is no catalogue number beside the entry.

  Hi Dundonnell,

  Yes, I have Symphony no.4 and no.5  ;)
  I already digitized it on my Hard disc.
  I will upload these today.

  And maybe I have no.2
  I will check this source.



  For Sicmu,

Thanks to upload no.7 (Of course Evlakhov and other)
This symphony's title 'Preserve Nature!' is very interesting....


  Atsushi

Thank you so much...again, Atushi :)

QuoteI read "LP Melodyia" on Onno van Rijen's website to mean what its says

Unfortunately, Onno often seems to attribute Soviet broadcast recordings to Melodiya. Wishful thinking, perhaps?

Ah :)

So here's a request. The composer is the opposite of unsung, but the music is rare -- there's a youTube channel with postings of all the Tchaikovsky student works (such as the pair of wind adagios and a string trio that have never been released on CD), presumably released on Melodiya LPs. While I could demux the vids, if anyone has good quality LP rips of those I think it'd be a great addition (there's also an LP which I actually own with the two early overtures and the Jurisprudence March, March Slav -- with alternate 'hymn'! -- and Coronation March)

So please feel free to upload that LP, esp the Marche Slave with alternate hymn!!))

Well I gather I could if I could figure out how why computer doesn't seem to want to record it. And it'd sound pretty bad because my turntable is cheap.

Quote from: TerraEpon on Friday 21 October 2011, 20:09
Well I gather I could if I could figure out how why computer doesn't seem to want to record it. And it'd sound pretty bad because my turntable is cheap.

Check the Russian Download Section, you might find one or two pieces you're missing.

Cheers,

herrarte

Looks like a LOT of student works!

Quote from: herrarte on Sunday 23 October 2011, 18:47
Here's the previously released unknown works of the Master Composer, but very hard to find and buy.

Hope you like what you hear...

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EKMOTSC_QRc/TqQyZS8wEUI/AAAAAAAAPR8/ualSzhEfC_o/s1600/Tchaikovsky+obra.PNG)

Cheers,

herrarte


http://www.mediafire.com/?8ru5bgc7y0deoeb (http://www.mediafire.com/?8ru5bgc7y0deoeb)

Chorus of Flowers and Insects by Tchaikovsky?  This will be extremely interesting!

Unfortunately that one (and the cantata) are in mono. But thanks for the upload anyway. Though I'll have to check, a couple of the pieces MIGHT be the same recordings as on a pair of Regis discs with the string quartets.

herrarte, thanks for these Bortkiewicz PC versions! :D

May I ask again, if there is anybody who has the Violin Concerto without the 'distortions'? ;)
I am sure they weren't part of the master tape.

Quote from: herrarte on Tuesday 25 October 2011, 22:14

It seems one of our favorite Unknown Composers is getting his due as of late.
I'm still trying to find his Rhapsody, which I know has now been included (played) in a 2011 Ukrainian Radio broadcast, it would be easier to find if I knew the performers.


http://files.mail.ru/AP3VND (http://files.mail.ru/AP3VND)

Hi Herrarte - I would bet that the performers are Mykola Sukach conducting the Chernigiv Philharmonia (maybe with Vyacheslav Zubkov on the piano). (Mykola is Ukrainian for Nikolai, so maybe also search for that.)

There is also a piece called simply "3/4" for violin and orchestra by Bortkiewicz on the site http://classical-music-online.net/en/production/21926   which I just cannot download - do you have any luck with it?  Yes it's certainly a good thing that a lot of Bortkiewicz recordings are now being produced.  I hope this will inspire a search for his lost music, especially the opera "The Acrobats".

Christopher:

You asked about the piece '3/4':
Bortkiewicz wrote a few violin-and-piano pieces simply called 'Im 3/4 Takt'. They are available on an apex release:
http://www.amazon.de/Bortkiewicz-Violin-Works-Rachmaninov-Morceaux/dp/B001S0AAX8/ref=pd_ecc_rvi_cart_1 (http://www.amazon.de/Bortkiewicz-Violin-Works-Rachmaninov-Morceaux/dp/B001S0AAX8/ref=pd_ecc_rvi_cart_1)

Edit: Sorry for the wrong link. Now corrected.
I hadn't noticed that you were talking about a piece with orchestra, so it's of course another recording. Don't know if orchestrated by the composer or what.
If you cannot download then just stream the file and record with audacity! ;)

Yes I did download that piece, but not from that site.  I will upload it and maybe you can download it more easily.

Cheers,

herrarte

Eventually managed to download this -  a short piece ca. 3 mins. 

Select the item, click 'download' - this starts is playing in streaming mode.  Then, using the browser tools (Google Chrome in my case) I did a 'SAVE PAGE AS' that triggered the actual download.

Unfortunately this site only allows about 1 download, or attempted download, an hour!

hope this helps

Best wishes

Richard

Quote from: herrarte on Wednesday 26 October 2011, 20:07
Yes I did download that piece, but not from that site.  I will upload it and maybe you can download it more easily.

Cheers,

herrarte

herrarte, has this other site which you mention also a recording of the violin concerto?
Sorry to be such a nuisance but I've become so much enamoured by Borty!  ::)

No, I couldn't find it there. My friend from overseas is also trying to find it. Let's hope he finds it, and the Russian Rhapsody too!

I'll let you know when we track it down.

Cheers

Quote from: britishcomposer on Wednesday 26 October 2011, 20:40
herrarte, has this other site which you mention also a recording of the violin concerto?
Sorry to be such a nuisance but I've become so much enamoured by Borty!  ::)

I don't know what exactly you are looking for, but Bortkiewicz's Violin Concerto can be found here and it is easy to save the file with  Realplayer :

http://classical-music-online.net/en/production/14121 (http://classical-music-online.net/en/production/14121)

Yes, that's the site from which I streamed it. However, this upload is somehow damaged: there are many passages which sound like a damaged CD. Now, this recording has never been released on CD but possibly the uploader had got it burned on a homemade CD and ripped it to upload it to this site.

Arbuckle, thank you for offering this Bortkiewicz VC recording.
I appreciate your effort very much; however, it is the same as that on classical-music-online.net, already mentioned.

Those who would like to compare: listen e. g. from 41:15 onwards: it becomes so very much distorted that you almost get a hiccup.  ;D

I am patiently waiting for glitch-free version. ;)

Please, don't misunderstand me, Arbuckle: this is NOT your fault!!!

I think my copy is clean I will upload it, with applause included.

herrarte

(http://www.smiliegenerator.de/s38/smilies-17588.png) for a 'clean' Bortkiewicz Violin Concerto! I knew it must exist!  ;D

May I add my thanks to Herrarte, much, much better to be able to hear the fine concerto without the distractions. Great work, and great work by you!

Herrarte has very kindly provided a link to Steinberg's Symphony No.4 "Turksib".

This is played by the "Scottish Symphony Orchestra". Presumably this is the BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra?

The link takes one to a site which is in Russian. There appear to be two files there. I am downloading both on the assumption that the first file contains Movements 1-2 and the second file Movements 3-4. Is this correct?

Ok, I have been stupid :( Of course it is the BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra :o It says so!! :-[

....but there are three movements, not four?

(The last hour has been somewhat fraught! My apologies :))

Symphony no.4 by Steinberg, Turksib, has the following movements (I think this was on page 3 of this thread. It took me 30 seconds to forget! )

1. À travers sables et monts = [ Across sands and mountains ] -
2. Rapsodie (Chansons du temps passé et d'aujourd'hui) = [ Rhapsody (Songs of the past and the present) ] -
3. Conduisant sa voie d'acier dans un combat incessant contre le desert à travers les montagnes rocheuses, à travers les gouffres et les sables = [ Guiding the steel road in an unceasing combat against the desert across rocky mountains, across chasms and sands ] -
4. Char du diable = [ Devil's chariot ].

I only lack the first since I was fortunate enough to download it when it was still available, so am only downloading that file.
Why do I have a notion I should be following Fyrexia's example and cycling what music of mine is available though- my bandwidth has crossed the gigabyte mark and I actually don't know if Mediafire policy penalizes one (as another site I'm on does, by explicit and known policy, if one's monthly bandwidth exceeds a certain amount, since their policy with their upstream sets certain limits etc. ... anyway. sorry.)

So what we have here are THREE movements of the Steinberg Symphony No.4?  Is that correct?

What I have downloaded appear to be three movements.

The timings of each movement are-

10.22
12.36
14.10

Which movements are these? Nos. 2-4??

Sorry..I find this very confusing ::)

that's exactly the three movements I have, with the first movement missing. the first movement must still be considered MIA. I hope that clears things up some.

BTW, it's exactly the same copy which fyrexia uploaded some time ago. (Now no longer available.)

Thanks for the explanations :)

Did you see that Mravinsky also recorded the Steinberg 4th?
http://www.amazon.com/Tchaikovsky-Pathetique-Rimsky-Korsakov-Invisible-Steinberg/dp/B002FRNOP4/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1320278411&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Tchaikovsky-Pathetique-Rimsky-Korsakov-Invisible-Steinberg/dp/B002FRNOP4/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1320278411&sr=1-1)

That is the Tchaikovsky Symphony No.4 in F minor, op.36 that Mravinsky recorded in that collection.

The reference to Steinberg is as the arranger of his father-in-law Rimsky-Korsakov's Suite.

Sicmu - thank you for the delightful scores by Glebov - they remind me at times of  Malcolm Arnold when he's being wistful, and in some of the more rhythmic sections one could be forgiven for thinking it was Leonard Bernstein. Most enjoyable to my (conventional) ears! :) :)

Eugene Aleksandrovich Glebov (1929-2000) was a Belarusian and Soviet composer and pedagogue, born in Roslavl in the Smolensk region. From his mother's side, he was a descended from the princely family Sokol-Chernilovsky. His father's family was a family of priests.

The young Glebov taught himself to play the mandolin, guitar and balalaika, and already in his early years he began to compose songs and ballads. He tried to enroll at the music school, but since he didn't know music and had not been to any musical school before, his application was denied. So he enrolled in the Roslavl Railway College and, upon completion, worked as a reviewer of train wagons in Mogilev.

Eventually, Eugene Glebov succeeded to enter the conservatory in Minsk for the composition class of Anatoly Bogatyrev (1913-2003). In 1951 he cre-ated his first major work Fantasia for Piano and Orchestra. After graduation in 1956, Eugene Glebov became a teacher of theoretical disciplines, and later professor at the Belarusian State Conservatory. He held several po-sitions in the Composers' Union of Belarus and was honored as People's Artist of the USSR.

His emotional and unconventional symphonies and concertos, suites, oratorios and ballets include titles as Till Eulenspiegel and The Little Prince.

In 1975, Glebov wanted to write the opera The Master and Margarita, but he wasn't granted the permission to do so. He wrote it after the collapse of the Soviet Union, in 1991. The libretto was written by Evgeny Glebov and Larissa Glebova, the composer's wife. The opera was premiered at the Bolshoi State Academic Theatre of Opera and Ballet of Belarus in 1992.
From: http://www.masterandmargarita.eu/en/05media/glebov.html

Quote from: herrarte on Saturday 29 October 2011, 20:46
Here's my copy of the  Violin Cto. now complete and updated.

http://www.filesonic.com/file/2820518105/Violin_Concerto_in_D_minor_op__22_-_1__Allegro_deciso.mp3 (http://www.filesonic.com/file/2820518105/Violin_Concerto_in_D_minor_op__22_-_1__Allegro_deciso.mp3)

http://www.filesonic.com/file/2820562045/Violin_Concerto_in_D_minor_op__22_-_2__Poème_-_Largo.mp3 (http://www.filesonic.com/file/2820562045/Violin_Concerto_in_D_minor_op__22_-_2__Po%C3%A8me_-_Largo.mp3)

http://www.filesonic.com/file/2757023045/Anatoly_Bazhenov,_Philharmonia_Academic_Symphony_Orchestra_of_Chernigov,_Ukraine,_Mykola_Sukach_-_Violin_Concerto_in_D_minor_op__22_-_3__Introduzione__Andantino_-_Alla_marcia_.mp3 (http://www.filesonic.com/file/2757023045/Anatoly_Bazhenov,_Philharmonia_Academic_Symphony_Orchestra_of_Chernigov,_Ukraine,_Mykola_Sukach_-_Violin_Concerto_in_D_minor_op__22_-_3__Introduzione__Andantino_-_Alla_marcia_.mp3)

Cheers,

herrarte

According to the third file,the orchestra is the Philharmonia Academic Symphony Orchestra of Chernigov, Ukraine, conducted by Mykola Sukach.
The violinistis, of course, Anatoly Bazhenov.

Yes. Is The same one for all 3 Movements. I forgot to shorten the file name for Movement 3. There's no problem downloading it so I left it like that.

Cheers,

To me Glebov was a kind of Belorussian John Williams : he is very gifted in finding catchy tunes, his orchestration is really colorful and inventive and he is much more at home with ballet than with symphonies IMO.

About Shcherbakhov's 2nd symphony, by the way (I expect this may be relevant information since it's available in the other section and the link may be useful and interesting), there are American Symphony Orchestra program notes about it here (http://www.americansymphony.org/concert_notes/symphony-no-2-blokovskaya-1922-26) (from the same performances).

Hrm. Ok, now I really have to listen to Muradeli's symphonies (or some other works I don't yet have), if only to see why he's considered less conservative than Myaskovsky considered overall. Than Myaskovsky later in the latter's career I can probably grant prior to listening, but Myaskovsky inbetween, ca.1920-32 ...

Many thanks to Amphissa for the Miaskovsky Cantatas :)

Agreed!

Myaskovsky could certainly write some atmospheric music. Sure wish we could get some labels interested in doing some better recordings of the symphonies than the Svetlanov cycle -- or some orchestra interested in playing them occasionally. You rarely hear any Myaskovsky other than the cello concerto in concert.

I thought someone downloaded one of his (Miaskovsky's) cello sonatas, but I couldn't find it.  Really like the Raff and Rozycki.  I'm starting to get into chamber music a little more after Hiller.  ;D

I've now added a rare live performance of Myaskovsky's 6th symphony, and also his dark, beautiful 22nd symphony. They will show up in the morning, I presume.

On archive.org there's a recent performance (Barbara Schubert/Chicago school orch.) of the Myaskovsky 22nd symphony (one of many works she's conducted uploaded there with her full permission, not a pirate performance, I gather, though due to the recent (post-1922-pub.) nature of the symphony there may be that issue... don't know...) - anyway - it really is a fine work I agree; I'm only really familiar with Svetlanov's performance (originally an LP, but which I know from the Olympia/Melodiya CD once coupled with the violin concerto, as I recall.)
Symphonies 5 and 9 got a very good recording/performances (the premiere of the 9th) under the late Sir Edward Downes on Marco Polo - may no longer be available, may be on Naxos, don't know. Better recording of the 5th than the lugubrious Svetlanov (and I say this though I rather like some of Svetlanov's recordings and performances here and in other repertoire, even where there are multiple alternatives.)
Both cello sonatas (the 1st in its late revision- I don't think I've heard the original version of the first sonata - and the 2nd also) are, yes, very fine, lyrical works rather different theone-theother. The 4th piano sonata (like his 13th symphony and maybe his 1st string quartet) show a different side of him and very well, too...
Eric

Schubert's Chicago recording is the one I've uploaded.

Ah, thanks. Several of her recordings of less recent works (plus Vaughan Williams' 9th, by me, which was then temporarily blocked understandably) have been uploaded to IMSLP via archive.org and seem quite good performances/recordings - I look forward to hearing that of Myaskovsky's 22nd. (The score of that was in my college's library and I think I skimmed the score before hearing much by him besides - a couple of times - his cello concerto. Probably was awhile before I encountered anything by him that ended in minor though quite a lot by him does, sometimes with vehemence, fatalism or... (e.g. the concluding funeral march of the 3rd symphony...) Or in neither, like some of his middle-period works! )

I am uploading an extremely rare British performance of Tikhon Khrennikov's Symphony No.1 given by the Halle Orchestra in 1973 conducted by Arvid Yansons.

Quote from: Dundonnell on Thursday 24 November 2011, 01:30
I am uploading an extremely rare British performance of Tikhon Khrennikov's Symphony No.1 given by the Halle Orchestra in 1973 conducted by Arvid Yansons.

Interesting to have a British performance, Colin.  :)  I only know the Svetlanov version.

It's de rigeur in 'the West' to dismiss Khrennikov's music as mediocre and his past importance as pay-off for pandering to the Stalinist regime. But is his music really that poor?
I wonder what the arts community in today's Russia and ex-Soviet states thinks of his music??  ??? 

I know I enjoy what little I know of Khrennikov's music but that's just my opinion. I still haven't heard his string quartet though it seems good (if influenced by Prokofiev's ballet music maybe, there are worse things!...) from a quick glance... The symphonies (nos. 1 - Gauk, I think, not Svetlanov, in my case - and 2, and part of no.3) and concertos of his I've heard sound good to me, also.

A.S. These two works by Svetlanov are brilliant!  I see that his web page gives a long list of compositions, but I've never heard any before.
http://www.svetlanov-evgeny.com/EN/compositeur/index.php

It's not often that conductors are good composers, and the reverse is perhaps even more unusual. Being both a great conductor and great composer is rare indeed - Mahler, Bernstein ... but that's another (contentious) thread!  ;D

Thank you!  :)

Yeah, I love those Svetlanov pieces....but is there any possible way of fixing the very slight cut offs at the beginning of the tracks?

(as for his other music, some years back I bought a piece on eMusic called "Poem in Memory of W.M. Schukschin 'Red Snowball'" arranged for balalaika orchestra. Very wonderful piece there too)

Quote from: semloh on Thursday 01 December 2011, 06:30
A.S. These two works by Svetlanov are brilliant!  I see that his web page gives a long list of compositions, but I've never heard any before.
http://www.svetlanov-evgeny.com/EN/compositeur/index.php

It's not often that conductors are good composers, and the reverse is perhaps even more unusual. Being both a great conductor and great composer is rare indeed - Mahler, Bernstein ... but that's another (contentious) thread!  ;D

Thank you!  :)

Svetlanov was also a considerable pianist - and anyone wanting a clue as to how considerable can perhaps do no better than to listen to his accounts of the hardly unchallenging piano parts of Medtner's three splendid sonatas for violin and piano.

Agreed. I don't know how challenging his part in the quintet is but he (and the Borodin Quartet) do very well by that work, too (or at least I can say I go back to that recording very often.)

QuoteSure wish we could get some labels interested in doing some better recordings of the (Miaskovsky) symphonies than the Svetlanov cycle

Yes!

Quote from: eschiss1 on Thursday 01 December 2011, 12:25
Agreed. I don't know how challenging his part in the quintet is but he (and the Borodin Quartet) do very well by that work, too (or at least I can say I go back to that recording very often.)

I so agree with you, Eric, about how satisfying is that recording of the Piano Quintet.  And the piano part may not by quite so challenging as that of the Sonata Epica (which is the greatest violin sonata of the 20th century, IMHO) but it's still pretty damn hard!

I found an interesting discussion between Jeremy Denk (on his blog) here (http://jeremydenk.net/blog/2007/09/15/diary-of-a-medtner-piano-quintet/) and some other well-known performers after rehearsals and a performance, I believe, of the quintet, with music examples and discussion of the quintet itself (he likes it less than they do, too briefly put. I admit I always break into a very happy grin at a few points of the finale. He's uploaded a really good Hammerklavier to the Isabella Gardner Museum online archives which can also be found at IMSLP - it's not against him.)
Anyhow. Apologies for the digression!

   I forgot to write pianist of Svetlanov's piano concerto.
   Pianist is Elena Tarasova.  I modified download board now.

   Svetlanov's piano concerto is very beautiful work, in my opinion :)
   

 
  Holgar,  Many thanks for upload symphony by Chalayev
  I had been thinking maybe this symphony is happy mood from subtitle of  "Mountains and Men"
  However, my impression of this symphony is exact opposition.
  I felt music draws a rigors of nature.
  In any case, very interesting symphony! Thanks :D
 

Hi Atsushi,

you are exactly right - the symphony is not a happy work at all. The first movement, which bears the title "Drama", really seems to be a description of the ruthless powers of nature, while the two other movements calm down but only to give place to plaintive moods and an atmosphere of mourning.

Fine you enjoyed it!

I would like to know more about Vladimir Yurovsky. The Symphony No. 5 is in the downloads, taken from a radio broadcast. I cannot understand the announcer, but I do hear him mention Myaskovsky, so perhaps he provides some biographical information about the composer.

I assume the composer is Vladimir Yurovsky (1915-1972) - not Vladimir Jurowski the living conductor. Google seems obsessed with listings about Jurowski when searching for Yurovsky.

What I have found so far, from MWI --
Born in Tareshcha, near Kiev. He studied composition with Nikolai Miaskovsky at the Moscow Conservatory. He composed an opera, ballets, film scores, orchestral and chamber works.

The IMDb list film credits for 13 movies.

Any further information on this composer? And any further information about the performance of Symphony No. 5? Is the conductor, Mikhail, his son?

By the way, I was looking at the Audio Properties of these files. The Genre is identified as Blues  ???

Did anyone, by chance, record the broadcast performance of Yurovsky's "Russian Painters"? Description here:
http://www.sikorski.de/5834/en/swedish_premiere_of_vladimir_yurovsky_39_s_russian_painters_in_norrkoeping.html (http://www.sikorski.de/5834/en/swedish_premiere_of_vladimir_yurovsky_39_s_russian_painters_in_norrkoeping.html)

Kazachenko, Grigory Alexeevich (1858-1938)

Ivanov, Mikhail Mikhailovich (1849-1927)

I recently acquired an album of ancient recordings of arias performed by the Russian tenor Dmitri Smirnov.  It contained most of the usual suspects of Russian and European repertoire.  But it also contained 3 unsungs (or should that be once-sung?!).

- Mikhail Ivanov - Solovey's Serenade, from his opera Zabava Putyatishna.
- Grigory Kazachenko - Peter's Arioso, from his opera Pan Sotnik.

I don't know anything about these composers.  I found another ancient recording of the Ivanov serenade (sung by Leonid Sobinov).  I have uploaded the two Ivanov's and the Kazachenko and there are all in the Downloads section.

The Ivanov recordings are both in the form of voice+piano- I would be interested to know if any recordings have been made with full orchestra.

Does anyone know of any other recordings by these composers?  They might be interesting...

A bit of Wikipedia:

IVANOV  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Ivanov_(composer) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Ivanov_(composer)))

Mikhail Mikhailovich Ivanov (23 September 1849 – 20 October 1927) was a Russian composer, critic and writer on music.
ikhail Mikhailovich Ivanov was born in Moscow in 1849. He studied at the Technological Institute, St Petersburg, then at the Moscow Conservatory for a year, under Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky (harmony) and Alexandre Dubuque (piano). He lived the next six years of his life in Rome, where he associated with Franz Liszt and his pupils and studied with Giovanni Sgambati. He returned to Russia and became music critic with the Novoye Vremya. He held conservative views, showing hostility towards the National School.
Many of his compositions were performed, but not published. Arias from his opera Zabava Puytatishna (1899) have been recorded by Olimpia Boronat, Eugenia Bronskaya and Leonid Sobinov. His liturgical piece The Lord's Prayer has been recorded by Nicolai Gedda.
He died in Rome in 1927.

Musical works:
- Potemkin's Feast (or Potemkin's Holiday), opera (1888; 16 December 1902, St Petersburg)[6]
- Zabava Putyatishna, opera (1899; 15 January 1899, Moscow)[6]
- The Proud Woman, opera (not prod.)
- Woe to the Wise, opera (not prod.)
- La vestale (a.k.a. Vyestalka), ballet (choreography by Marius Petipa; 29 February 1888; Mariinsky Theatre, St Petersburg)
- A Night in May, symphonic poem
- Savonarola, symphonic poem
- Suite Champêtre
- a Requiem, symphonic prologue
- Medea, incidental music
- three orchestral suites
- several cantatas
- songs
- piano pieces

There is more info on http://www.slovarus.ru/?di=33539 (http://www.slovarus.ru/?di=33539) in Russian.


KAZACHENKO  (http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%BE,_%D0%93%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%90%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87 (http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%BE,_%D0%93%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%90%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87) in Russian)

Grigory Alexeevich Kazachenko (born 3 May 1858 in Poltava, died 18 May 1938 in Leningrad) - Russian composer and professor of the Leningrad conservatory.
Studied at the Imperial Choral Capella and the St. Petersburg Conservatory.  From 1889 was choirmaster of the St.Petersburg Imperial opera. In his role as capel-meister he performed in the symphonic and public concerts of the Imperial Russian Musical Society and in his own "Russian Concerts" in Paris (1898).
From 1924 he was director of the choral class of the Leningrad Conservatory (and professor for 1926). He became an Honoured Ambassador of Art in 1937.
His best works are:
operas:
- "The Silver Price" (after A.K. Tolstoy, staged in the MArinsky Theatre in 1892 under the composer's direction)
- "Pan Sotnik" (on a subject from T.G. Shevchenko's "Kobzar", 1902, staged in the People's House in St.Petersburg)-
- a symphony
- two oriental suites
- a fantasia on Russian themes for solo viola and orchestra
- "Rusalka" cantata (soprano, mixed chorus and orchestra)

Napravnik, Eduard (1839-1916)

Nápravník is a composer who should certainly be better known it seems! I have posted in the Downloads section two arias from his opera "The Nizhny-Novgorodians" ("Nizhegorodtsy" in Russian), and also a piece I have that is just called "Fandango" on the Melodia CD that it came on (recorded 1946). I don't know if it is from an opera or other large piece, or is a self-standing piece in its own right. No opus number was given.

What other orchestral and operatic pieces by Nápravník are known to have been recorded?

I know of:

- Concerto symphonique in A minor for piano and orchestra, Op. 27
- Melancholy Op.48 No.3
- Fantaisie russe in B minor, Op. 39
- Dubrovsky (opera), complete

I have a very crackly 1901 recording of Medea Mei-Figner singing an aria from his opera Harold (about the 1066 Norman invasion) which I will upload in due course (though it's arranged for piano accompaniment).

A previous poster has mentioned that his four symphonies have all been recorded but offered no further information...

Harold- about Harald III? the Norwegian king who also invaded England in 1066? (Weir and Atterberg, maybe others, also wrote operas about that. Popular subject.) Hoping to hear more Napravnik, I noticed that Czech radio has recorded a good amount of it including his string quartets (recently, the latter- maybe they're being commercially released...)

I'd sure like to hear that trio by Napravnik that beat out one of my favorite chamber works in a competition - RK's Quintet for piano and winds.

Quote from: fr8nks on Tuesday 03 January 2012, 15:28

Vitali Gubarenko  (b.1934)

Symphony No.1  (1961)

1. Moderato
2. Allegretto
3. Andante
4. Allegro vivo

USSR Radio Symphony Orchestra
Igor Blashkow, Conductor

Melodiya LP D 030 393

This is a beautiful and uplifting symphony from beginning to end by a Ukrainian composer. If there is more music by this composer please upload it.

http://www.mediafire.com/?8866rhcd9q9hjv4,bng8e7okb3e914l,up24lr978f2lebc,920p9zi83whlfr3 (http://www.mediafire.com/?8866rhcd9q9hjv4,bng8e7okb3e914l,up24lr978f2lebc,920p9zi83whlfr3)

I also like Gubarenko's first a lot. I will upload more by this composer in a few weeks : I need to digitize the LP's

Vitalij Sergeevich Gubarenko's dates are 1934-2000, apparently, and there are at least 3 symphonies among other works - looking forward to listening to listening to this one. Thanks! (Isn't Blashkow the one who first recorded Shostakovich's 2nd and 3rd, I think?)

also re Napravnik, ... ... hrm. Was going to object that Mélancolie wasn't an orchestral work :) (being an orchestration of the third of his opus 48 pieces for piano) but it was released for string orchestra in the same month (1888) as those 4 pieces were issued for piano. I'm guessing the orchestration was - may have been - by the composer in any case...

Quote from: eschiss1 on Saturday 31 December 2011, 09:05
Harold- about Harald III? the Norwegian king who also invaded England in 1066? (Weir and Atterberg, maybe others, also wrote operas about that. Popular subject.) Hoping to hear more Napravnik, I noticed that Czech radio has recorded a good amount of it including his string quartets (recently, the latter- maybe they're being commercially released...)

Do you know what else of his was recorded by Czech Radio?

according to APF (http://www2.rozhlas.cz/archivy/), at least 25 works listed including the following-
*4 pieces op.67 for cello and piano (Utkin, Grokhovsky, on CRO Praha, in 2008)
*4 tenor songs op.68 ( Šrejma, Grokhovsky on CRO Praha in 2011)
*9 excerpts from the opera Dubrovsky (preludes from the opera and 4th act, aria, scene and duet) (several recordings, mostly from 1959) (APF counts each as a separate work- I should have said 25 excerpts/tapes, or somesuch, though they don't count each movement of the quartets etc. separately even if so banded)
*Elegy op.46/3 (Grokhovsky, 2007)
*Fantasy for Violin Op.30
*Piano Quartet Op.42 (2007 recording)
*Both piano trios (2007, 2009 recordings)
*Melancholy (piano) op.48/3
*Violin sonata op.32 (Bernášek/Grokhovsky, 2008)
*String quartets in E op.16, A op.28, C op.65 (Kocian Quartet, 2007)
(This only turns up if one searches on his surname with the diacritics exactly, as Nápravník, btw. :) )

Hrm, Cadensa lists a 1903 recording of an excerpt from Harold. Intriguing. Félia Litvinne, soprano...

Hmm. My Czech is rusty, I'm getting 448,834 document hits, and none (on the first page at least) have anything to do with music. Are these playlists or are there actual radio recordings involved here?

Edit: I see, you need both "eduard and Nápravník" in the Autor box. But does anyone know if there are any accessible streams or other audio for these?

Quote from: eschiss1 on Thursday 05 January 2012, 01:59
according to APF (http://www2.rozhlas.cz/archivy/), at least 25 works listed including the following-
*4 pieces op.67 for cello and piano (Utkin, Grokhovsky, on CRO Praha, in 2008)
*4 tenor songs op.68 ( Šrejma, Grokhovsky on CRO Praha in 2011)
*9 excerpts from the opera Dubrovsky (preludes from the opera and 4th act, aria, scene and duet) (several recordings, mostly from 1959) (APF counts each as a separate work- I should have said 25 excerpts/tapes, or somesuch, though they don't count each movement of the quartets etc. separately even if so banded)
*Elegy op.46/3 (Grokhovsky, 2007)
*Fantasy for Violin Op.30
*Piano Quartet Op.42 (2007 recording)
*Both piano trios (2007, 2009 recordings)
*Melancholy (piano) op.48/3
*Violin sonata op.32 (Bernášek/Grokhovsky, 2008)
*String quartets in E op.16, A op.28, C op.65 (Kocian Quartet, 2007)
(This only turns up if one searches on his surname with the diacritics exactly, as Nápravník, btw. :) )

well, to my knowledge no, except that, as with BBC Radio 3, the stations themselves - CRO Praha, D-Dur, etc. which sometimes broadcast items from these archives- mostly have accessible internet audio streams.

(this part belongs more in the Czech Music- or even the Radio subfolder... - but the link for one of those stations is http://www.rozhlas.cz/d-dur/portal (http://www.rozhlas.cz/d-dur/portal) and links to the others can be found from there, I think.)

If anyone succeeds in finding some of the radio archive recordings, I hope they will be kind enough to share them.  I'd surely like to hear more of Napranik's music.

Jerry

well, according to this (http://program.rozhlas.cz/stanice/2011-12-31?st=26) for instance, they do broadcast some of the works occasionally (in this case the songs opus 68 last New Years' Eve on CRo D-Dur, which I think is the one whose link I gave before, which does webstream- if it's the same one, I've listened to it alot in the past. According to their homepage they have some archived programs but I've never looked at/listened to that feature- they do or used to keep a schedule a week into the future or so so I used to write down a "catch this!" sort of table of reminders for that (and other such stations- maybe a European version of our laws forbids lookahead schedules now for similar anti-piracy reasons, I haven't checked...)

Quote from: eschiss1 on Saturday 07 January 2012, 02:40
maybe a European version of our laws forbids lookahead schedules now for similar anti-piracy reasons, I haven't checked...)

True, but for the vast majority of Napravnik pieces mentioned, there are no CDs commercially available (checked through allmusic and arkivmusic). I am really keen on hearing the chamber music especially.

well, according to their search feature, nothing by Nápravník expected between now and February 1st on Czech Radio.
Portuguese Radio has broadcast a recording of the piano quartet (around 1998?) played by the Moscow Piano Quartet (and rebroadcast on Swedish P2 in 1998), btw.

Quote from: eschiss1 on Thursday 05 January 2012, 01:59
according to APF (http://www2.rozhlas.cz/archivy/), at least 25 works listed including the following-
*4 pieces op.67 for cello and piano (Utkin, Grokhovsky, on CRO Praha, in 2008)
*4 tenor songs op.68 ( Šrejma, Grokhovsky on CRO Praha in 2011)
*9 excerpts from the opera Dubrovsky (preludes from the opera and 4th act, aria, scene and duet) (several recordings, mostly from 1959) (APF counts each as a separate work- I should have said 25 excerpts/tapes, or somesuch, though they don't count each movement of the quartets etc. separately even if so banded)
*Elegy op.46/3 (Grokhovsky, 2007)
*Fantasy for Violin Op.30
*Piano Quartet Op.42 (2007 recording)
*Both piano trios (2007, 2009 recordings)
*Melancholy (piano) op.48/3
*Violin sonata op.32 (Bernášek/Grokhovsky, 2008)
*String quartets in E op.16, A op.28, C op.65 (Kocian Quartet, 2007)
(This only turns up if one searches on his surname with the diacritics exactly, as Nápravník, btw. :) )

*Elegy op.46/3 (Grokhovsky, 2007)
*Fantasy for Violin Op.30

Are these solo/chamber pieces or orchestral works?

hrm. the fantasy is performed as a violin/piano work, the opus 46 work is performed as a piano work (appropriately, since the opus 46 is a set of 4 bagatelles for piano published by Urbanek of Prague in 1887). The opus 30 exists in both violin/piano and violin/orchestra forms according at least to HMB (published by Bote&Bock in 1880 and 1881 respectively) but probably would usually be considered a violin/orchestra work, I guess.

Thank you isokani, for such performances. I respect a lot Powell performances.
I thank you, specially for the Konstantin Eiges SOnata nO.2

Tony

Yes, Eiges is certainly unsung. Friend of Medtner, music not dissimilar, but with distinct individuality as well.
I'll have a look for some more Eiges - shorter pieces - soon.

re Napravnik. Last year I was in Prague and I think at DAMU or the conservatoire there was a festival of Napravnik, including performances of chamber music. So perhaps there were some broadcasts recently (the concerts were in October/November I think).

Belated tempo headings for Golubev symphony 7 (Bflat minor op67, 1972-77), by the way (which I have but which I also think was posted here some while back...) (the LP back cover was posted at e-bay by someone, so...combining now two sources of information...)
I. War. Adagio. Allegro eroico
II. For the Fallen. Adagio, maestoso e mesto
III. Resurrection. Presto
IV. The Way to Victory. Allegro festoso

Another piece of recorded Napravnik is on the CD "Singers Of Imperial Russia, Vol. 5" - there is a piece called 'Don Juan's Serenade' - I don't know which opera this comes from (if indeed it does come from an opera)...

see http://www.bill88.com/music_review_42/singers_of_imperial_russia_vol_5.html (http://www.bill88.com/music_review_42/singers_of_imperial_russia_vol_5.html) for full listing

I cannot access any downloads of fyrexia. Please advise how I can access the downloads. Thank You.

Jerry

Quote from: jerry.buszek on Thursday 12 January 2012, 04:55
I cannot access any downloads of fyrexia. Please advise how I can access the downloads. Thank You.

Jerry

I too have found this problem when I started on the Russian Music Downloads section. I have not contacted fyrexia directly because I know that he said that he was travelling abroad recently. He MAY now be home again ???

Not quite sure where to put this post but since this thread is the one I was most recently regularly visiting........... ;D ;D

For the last three weeks I have been working through the downloads backlog, that is to say the music downloaded before I joined this site in September and those pieces uploaded while I was engaged on my own upload programme of mainly British Music.

I have just finished downloading, copying and cataloguing :) :)

I have counted up that I have, for example, now downloaded 371 non-British and 106 British Symphonies in the last four months ;D

Now I pray that I have enough lifetime left to actually listen to all this music ;D ;D

I want to say the warmest thank you possible to all those members who have downloaded so much Russian, Polish, American etc etc music.

It would be invidious to name particular members but there are a number who have consistently and repeatedly uploaded music not otherwise available, easily or at all, from countries all over the world.

We owe them a HUGE vote of thanks :) :) :)

Sicmu-

Is there any possibility of restoring the first of the two links to the Oratorio "Life on Earth"by Alexander Kholminov posted on 26 September and the second of the three links to the music of Alexander Flyarovsky posted on October 1st.

Could you also clarify which pieces of Flyarovsky are contained in the second and third links ??? The post refers to "Festive Overture, Those Who Fought in April, 15 minutes Before the Start and In the Civil War" but the third file contains "And the World Looks At Us" and "Urildaan".

The links are now restored, the files were deleted and I have no idea of what happened.

Dear guys,
As I understood, the three movs numbered 2, 3 and 4 are in the upload of semloh, and the first one is missing from broadcasting.
And (as Sicmu said) the first bar of the second mvt (not the first one) is also missing.
Is this correct?

Thanks for restoring these links :)

Sicmu, thanks for responding re the Steinberg - but now I'm confused, as there appears to be only three movements, when the txt file says there should be four.  ???

I must admit, I am also confused about what is what regarding the Steinberg Turksib!

Some final definitive clarity on this would be very helpful ???

Adding the times of the 3 files I downloaded of the symphony together gives a total of 37.08 minutes. Do we know or, rather, does anyone know how long the 4th symphony is supposed to last ??? ???

This is the symphony as broadcasted by the BBC, so it should be the complete work. I would say trust your ears, the final track sounds like there are two different sections : first, a brief and swfit scherzo running less than 5' ( 4'35") and then a  march or procession that could considered as be the beginning of the finale.

Quote from: Sicmu on Sunday 15 January 2012, 15:33
This is the symphony as broadcasted by the BBC, so it should be the complete work. I would say trust your ears, the final track sounds like there are two different sections : first, a brief and swfit scherzo running less than 5' ( 4'35") and then a  march or procession that could considered as be the beginning of the finale.

That's it ;D

End of story for me :) I am happy :)

Quote from: Dundonnell on Sunday 15 January 2012, 15:52

Quote from: Sicmu on Sunday 15 January 2012, 15:33

End of story for me :) I am happy :)

Yes, same here! Thanks for the clarification, Sicmu!

:)

Sorry people. I am just now reading that a lot of people wants to access in to my uploads.
Can some of you make a list of the works i have which is in private, so i can make them public?

I want to clarify something, before somebody thinks that i am some kind of selfish "individual".

I am currently a hitchhiker. And ive been doing this for a long time already. I dont have a "stable" location. So i cannot read every messages there is. My life is not being at home with its butt sitting on the computer everyday. When i have the time, i am still glad to upload some music on to my Youtube Channel. I have to make a living myself when i arrive at certain places.
I hope fellow members can understand my current situation.

Cheers !

Tony

I did remind fellow members that you were travelling, Tony ;D

Anyway, the missing works are:

Andrei Balanchivadze: Symphony No.1
                                   Symphony No.2
                                   Piano Concerto No.4
Balis Dvarionas: Piano Concerto No.1
Evgeni Golubev: Violin Concerto
                          Cello Concerto
Nikolai Kapustin: Piano Concerto No.4
Askold Murov: Symphony in Tobolsk
                       Symphony No.2
Eugene Stikhin:  Piano Concerto
Gleb Taranov: Symphony No.6
Stasys Vainiunas: Piano Concerto No.2

If you are able to restore this at some point I certainly would be very grateful :)

...and Good Luck with your travels :)

Tony,:

Thank you very much for restoring the Balanchivadze, the Dvarionas, the Golubev, the Kapustin, the Murov and the Vainiunas :) :)

Regarding the Taranov and the Stikin: you, apparently, uploaded the Taranov to Mediafire on 22 June but the link now says "Invalid or Deleted File", and the Stikin on 10 July but that link says "File set to Private" ???

But if they are no longer available so be it ;D

Thanks again for what you have been able to do :)

Many thanks Tony Fyrexia for uploading this piece.  Do you know who the performers are (pianist, orchestra, conductor)?

Dvarionas Piano Concerto No.1:

A. Dvarionate(piano) and the Bolshoi Theatre Orchestra/the composer.

.....according to information supplied earlier :)

The Violin Concerto is in D minor.

[This reply refers to Ilja's post of concertos by Bortkiewicz, an explanation I would not have to give if it had been posted where it belongs in the Downloads Discussion board. As is posted prominently in several places, the Download board is only for download links. I have to manually split replies like this off and then merge them back into the appropriate topic on the Discussion board, which is time consuming and runs the risk of the post getting lost altogether.  Not to mention the fact that I find it irritating to still have to keep on doing this! Nothing personal, Jim, it applies to others too. Mark]

Just downloaded the Russian Overture by Golovanov.  One of the themes he uses was previously used by Lalo in the finale of his Concerto Russe for violin.

Thanks, Sicmu, for uploading the works by Gubarenko.

Finally downloaded that Kalachevsky Ukranian Symphony.  Some movement titles would be lovely.  Surely they must be on the record jacket.  Sorry if this means you have to go digging around in your record pile, Atsushi!  :(

The movement titles are:

1. Poco andante-Allegro
2. Intermezzo: Scherzando
3. Andante con moto
4. Finale

I hope this helps.

Frank

Quote from: fr8nks on Saturday 04 February 2012, 17:17
The movement titles are:

1. Poco andante-Allegro
2. Intermezzo: Scherzando
3. Andante con moto
4. Finale

I hope this helps.

Frank

Quite a bit, Frank.  Thanks.  A bit more detail about the finale (Allegro?  Presto?  That sort of thing) would be even more greatly appreciated.  Perhaps it wasn't printed on your source?  A lot of the old LPs were like that.  Turnabout was particularly guilty, as I recall.  Some CDs still are.

P.S. Apparently this is Kalachevsky's 2nd Symphony.  And the score doesn't seem to be available anywhere.  It's on the IMSLP wishlist.

JimL--this information was given to me several years ago by Latvian. You might ask him in a private message if he can answer your questions.

 ;)

Sorry, JimL -- no further detail available for Kalachevsky. The LP gave no tempo indication for the finale whatsoever. Also, it was a generic sleeve, so there were no program notes of any kind, hence I was unaware of the symphony's numbering. It was only identified as "Ukrainian Symphony."

QuoteP.S. Apparently this is Kalachevsky's 2nd Symphony.

May I ask your source for this information, JimL? Neither New Grove nor Ho & Feofanov's Biographical Dictionary of Russian/Soviet Composers mention the existence of any other symphony by Kalachevsky.  ???

His only surviving symphony- I am not sure why I'm under the impression there was a first, I'll see where I got that information/claim/... (Kalachevsky/Kalachevskii/Kolachevskii/... way too many ways to transliterate even without using Cyrillic scripts...)

It (the Ukrainian symphony) has been published, but recently - 1974 score (http://www.worldcat.org/title/ukrainska-symfoniia/oclc/77577408&referer=brief_results). (About 98 years after composition. IMSLP editors- please never assume date of composition is "ca." date of publication - 98 years is hardly the maximum gap ;^) Yes, this wasn't on IMSLP - not with a publication date of 1974 ..., but JustSaying)

Quote from: Latvian on Sunday 05 February 2012, 00:32

QuoteP.S. Apparently this is Kalachevsky's 2nd Symphony.

May I ask your source for this information, JimL? Neither New Grove nor Ho & Feofanov's Biographical Dictionary of Russian/Soviet Composers mention the existence of any other symphony by Kalachevsky.  ???

You asked for it, you got it: http://imslp.org/wiki/Wishlist_G-K (http://imslp.org/wiki/Wishlist_G-K).  Just click on Kalachevsky (#138) and read what it says.

Thanks, JimL. I think Eric has cleared it up!

　Frank, Thanks for wrote about movement information instead of me.
  I don't have LPs now, so very helpful :)

Well, it's a contact, but I don't know if I have to send for the score or I can see it online.  I'll have to inquire, I guess.

I've posted the Symphony in C  Major by  SHAKHIDA SHAIMARDANOVA in the downloads folder.  This is a rip from an old Melodiya LP.

She is an Uzbek composer.  I haven't found an Uzbek folder yet, but it would not surprise me.

I haven't found much about her beyond this: 


She attended the Tashkent Cons. (1957-64). In addition to a violin concerto, her early works include a Sinfonietta.
Symphony in C major in One Movement (1960)

And she is supposed to be one of the two women in this picture.

(http://www.sanat.orexca.com/eng/1-05/img/eulogy8.jpg)

Quote from: jowcol on Friday 10 February 2012, 17:28
I hope I'm not committing a Faux Pas by putting an Uzbek composer under Russian and Soviet...

SHAKHIDA SHAIMARDANOVA
(b. 1938, UZBEKISTAN)


Symphony in C major in One Movement (1960)
Transfer from LP

Zakhid Khaknazarov/Uzbek State Phlharmonic Symphony Orchestra
( + Vildanov: Symphony No. 2 and Izamov: Uzbek Suite)
MELODIYA D 026785-6 (LP) (1969)

From the collection of Karl Miller

I don't see how you could have made a faux pas.  It does say Russian and Soviet Music.  I believe Uzbekistan was a Soviet republic in 1960.

P.S. Wow!  I guess big hair was in everywhere in the '60s!

I just gave the Golovanov Russian Overture a good listen-to.  Wow!  Not only is a theme from the introduction used by Lalo as the rondo theme in the finale of the Concerto Russe, but I could swear the principal theme of the overture is the same tune as that used by Miaskovsky in the central episode of the finale of his Violin Concerto!  I guess Soviet composers were pretty much obligated to quote folk tunes in their symphonic works under Stalin.

I was without my main computer the past two weeks, so unable to get to my music files. Finally back to it.

I've added some music by Gliere and Glinka. (I must be in the "Gli" portion of the alphabet today.)

Quote from: Amphissa on Saturday 18 February 2012, 15:49
Reinhold Moritzevich Glière (1875-1956)
Concerto for harp and orchestra in E flat major, Op. 74 (1938)

Jana Bouskova, harp
Czech Radio Symphony Orchestra
Leos Svarovsky, conductor

Rudolfinum, Prague
22 November 2010

From radio broadcast

The movements of the Glière Harp Concerto are as follows:

I.   Allegro moderato
II.  Tema con variazioni: Andante
III. Allegro giocoso

Thanks, Dave!  I'm going to finally get Ilya Mourometz, too!

Interesting tidbit about Glinka's Waltz-Fantaisie -- Glazunov used it in his incidental music for Masquerade, but the Naxos recording says NOTHING to indicate this. I actually was going crazy for a bit trying to figure out why it seemed so familiar.

Many thanks to Amphissa for the Glière-Glinka Festpost!

I think the Glinka Serenade is on this:
http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=390882
Same performers anyway ("Gran sestetto originale for Piano and Strings in E flat major")

I believe you are right. Thanks for catching that. I've removed it from downloads.

Quote from: A.S on Thursday 15 September 2011, 15:20
  Gregori Egiazaryan (1908-1988, Armenia)
    Symphony in B minor "Razdan" (1960) Boris Khaikhin/Moscow Radio Symphony Orchestra MELODIYA D 015589 (LP) (1965)

A.S-- THANK YOU for uploading this.  This is a fantastic work, and I've been listing to it over and over.

There are several parts that are just too good. 

  It's my pleasure, jowcol ;)

Quote from: jowcol on Thursday 01 March 2012, 16:32

Quote from: A.S on Thursday 15 September 2011, 15:20
  Gregori Egiazaryan (1908-1988, Armenia)
    Symphony in B minor "Razdan" (1960) Boris Khaikhin/Moscow Radio Symphony Orchestra MELODIYA D 015589 (LP) (1965)

A.S-- THANK YOU for uploading this.  This is a fantastic work, and I've been listing to it over and over.

There are several parts that are just too good.

I have some more works by Egiazaryan that I will upload soon.

Has anyone encountered anything of Varvera Gaigerova or Valery Zhelobinsky?

About the Golubev 9th quartet I uploaded my MIDIs/MP3s of awhile back-
I just found the score (along with several others!- in this case, a gift from a friend my meeting with whom is a bit of a story)- I mislaid awhile back (and in trying to find wrecked half my .. .never mind... anyhow...)
The movement indications for such as might be interested are
String Quartet no.9 (D minor - ish, Op.58. 1970s?)
I. Allegro risoluto (quarter=80 [84]).
II.  Adagio (quarter=46) (this is the movement whose Pietoso central section may sound familiar if you've heard his 7th symphony.)
III. Allegro energico [1/4. 1/4 1/4.] (quarter=120 (116)) (more or less 8/8 time divided into 3+2+3 8ths)

Holger - thank you for the Vasilenko - a couple of those pieces are new to me and very welcome indeed!  :)

Thanks to Holger for the Vasilenko "festival".
If I recall correctly, Monitor Records once released his Suite for Balalaika, coupled with the Concerto for Accordion by Nikolai Chaikin and a Concerto for Balalaika whose composer escapes my memory. Any chance of re-listening to those three works?

  I also many thanks, Holgar!
  The sound quality of Piano concerto is very good than my one.
  I like this concerto very much. Especially I love second movement.  It sounds like "A rest in Central Asia", my ear. Very beautiful and romantic movement. :)

If I recall correctly, Monitor Records once released his Suite for Balalaika, coupled with the Concerto for Accordion by Nikolai Chaikin and a Concerto for Balalaika whose composer escapes my memory. Any chance of re-listening to those three works?

Actually, the disc you're referring to was on Westminster (although there was a similar Monitor LP, so the mistaken identity is understandable). I have the Westminster and can digitize and upload it if there is sufficient interest.

Latvian, if you can digitize the Chaikin/Vasilenko/?? Westminster LP I'll be greatly obliged!

Thanks for the feedback on my Vasilenko uploads. I also like this composer's pieces very much in general, it's attractive and colourful music clearly in Russian tradition. Vasilenko was much interested in folk music from the Soviet periphery, which is of course reflected in his "Soviet East" Suite, but it also corresponds to what Atsushi said about the middle movement of his Piano Concerto. There are numerous pieces by him referring to Central Asia. However, he also composed an "Arctic Symphony" (his Fourth) – a pity there is no recording available!

Listened finally to the Klebanov 3rd symphony.  Very pleased and impressed with almost all of the work to the point where any gripes would be gripes. :D (I forget, does anyone have movement listings for that one?)

Echiss:  I have the tempo markings for the Klebaov 3rd.  I Allegro (12:03) II Lento.  tempo rubato (11:44) III Allegro scherzando (8:06) anjd IV Maestoso. Allegro (9:18).  Hope this does the trick.  Malito

Thanks much!! (The opening Allegro is 11:46 over here though- oddly? then 11:26 - 7:53 - 9:01 . I wonder if I did something wrong on my end of things...

Quote from: eschiss1 on Tuesday 27 March 2012, 06:26
Thanks much!! (The opening Allegro is 11:46 over here though- oddly?)

This is nothing ununsual and there are basically two explanations: first, the timings given on LP sleeves are not always as correct as they seem to be (look at some LPs which have been reissued on CD: there is almost always a difference). Even more important, the pace of the turntable is regulated manually, and this leaves much room for deviations. Somestimes, a little move of the regulator can mean one semi-tone of difference!

Galynin- is the 1st concerto the concerto in C major in the 1962 recording available for awhile on this CD - here (http://www.worldcat.org/title/german-galynin-composer/oclc/747502783) ?

semi-tone- yes, or a whole-tone- the E-flat minor Wellesz 2 comes out at C-sharp minor, almost, in the tape I have.

Quote from: eschiss1 on Sunday 15 April 2012, 19:21
Galynin- is the 1st concerto the concerto in C major in the 1962 recording available for awhile on this CD - here (http://www.worldcat.org/title/german-galynin-composer/oclc/747502783) ?

It does look like the same recording, although I'm doubtful whether it is commercially available. Will check, and thanks for the sharp eye.

Edit: it is available, so I've removed the post.

I don't think "commercially available" was the moderators' criterion though they may have changed it, I've been here and back and gone and to and fro- at some-point-available I thought was it... otherwise, I'd upload a few things I have from LPs that were on CDs but NLA ones (not national library of australia...) (Malipiero syms 6 and 7, I think - early recordings thereof - other things too...)

Holger -- much thanks for this gem!  Definitely my cup of tea!  (Or coffee, in my case)

Here is one of my favourite Soviet symphonies:

Çary Nurymow (Chary Nurymov, 1941–1993)
Symphony No. 2 (1984)
USSR Ministry of Culture Symphony Orchestra / Gennady Rozhdestvensky

Thanks for your feedback, jowcol, and great you like the symphony. There was plenty of excellent music in the Soviet Union, and it's a pity so much of it has almost fallen into obscurity today. Nurymow, who was chairman of the Turkmen Composers Union, is one example of a very fine composer whose works should get far more attention than they receive these days. Melodiya (the modern CD label) would do a great job if they reissued stuff like that – however, it seems this is not exactly their intention.

Re the Shcherbachev 2nd symphony - very odd that the finale should be about as long as the rest combined, though it's definitely the same piece (same themes, anyway) and not, as I was beginning to suspect when I started listening to the finale, an alternate way of getting the other four movements (uploaded as a single file- but the perhaps mislabeled- something I told myself I'd check - until it became clear it wasn't that :) ) ... anyhow, belatedly listened to the symphony (all but the last half of the finale, for now.) Very very much impressed...

The Shcherbachev 2nd Symphony. I want to put your mind at ease. I attended the concert, sat close, and the last movement was enormous. The first few movements went by and yet the score on Botstein's podium seemed to remain much thicker at the right than the left.

Mind already at ease (the only other possibility that had fantastically come to mind :) at all - at all - was that there were two versions of the symphony, one with substantial soprano(?) solos, one for male soloist (mostly) throughout (with maybe slight choir interjections), and that the first four movements might be one version, the fifth track a revised, much changed version with those etc. performed on a different evening and offered, very liberally- two recordings! - for free on their website (if I understand??) ... - but as it is, offering a quite, quite good, passionate, memorable symphony (or so it does seem on this first-and-change listen! ) I'm glad to have made the acquaintance of, of about an hour's length at that... - can only want to thank all concerned, I can... anyway :)

Even though the instrumentation/forces called for... are quite different, the movement proportions make me think actually of Das Lied. I wonder if Shcherbachev knew his Mahler?

(I see Larry Sitsky writes about the symphony in his Music of the Repressed Russian Avant-Garde, 1900-1929, p.136 - looking at this via Google Preview. Interesting things he has to say.)

Holger - a belated 'thank you' for the 2nd Symphony of Nurymow. I agree about the long-drawn phrases and the relation to the landscape. It's an enjoyable experience, although it feels like one movement of a bigger symphony!  ;D

Atsushi, thank you very much for uploading this recent concert with music by Tcherepnin and Golovanov.  :D
I intended to record it myself but made a mistake with my recording device.

  You are welcome ;) 

  I listened Oratorio by Tcherepnin today.  The choral part in this music sounds like "Inori" (a prayer) of the priest in temple in my country. Very interesting music, in my view.

I have some perhaps interesting works that I've found again in my collection that a friend sent me tapes of when he received a large bunch of Melodiia LPs in the mail awhile back; I'll see if any of them have ever been-that I can see etc.- available on commercial CDs. Knipper's piano trio, some Levitin, a Liatoshinski quartet, some other things.

(I wonder if the "Bonduriansky" who's in the Knipper trio might be pianist Alexander Bonduriansky, or if he's too young... I don't know the date of the recording; I'll have to get to the library again and see if it's in the Melodia Discography (http://melodia%20discography).) According to Boosey, Knipper wrote at least 2 piano trios, so I assume the one on that LP is the first since I don't think a number was indicated. :)

No, it's trio 2 (1968-70), I think. The opening does -not- sound like that of trio 1 (a recording of which can be previewed here (http://www.classicalarchives.com/album/cma-2011-067.html).)

Quote from: eschiss1 on Thursday 17 November 2011, 08:12
Hrm. Ok, now I really have to listen to Muradeli's symphonies (or some other works I don't yet have), if only to see why he's considered less conservative than Myaskovsky considered overall. Than Myaskovsky later in the latter's career I can probably grant prior to listening, but Myaskovsky inbetween, ca.1920-32 ...

They weren't as bad as I expected them to be. As compared to, say, Khrennikov's symphonies. Comparing them to Shostakovitch or Weinberg is a different matter...

All best,
Gijs

Symphony # 3 by Alexander Ajemyan
(4 tracks)
Armenian Radio Symphony Orchestra
Rafael Mangasarian, Conductor
From the collection of Karl Miller

First, it seems that we have a separate Armenian folder for the downloads, but not the discussion about the downloads.  I'll put the announcement here.

I know next to nothing about the composer, even after searching under 4 spellings of his last name.  It is apparent his son is alive and composing in Armenia-- and even has contact information here.

http://www.composers21.com/compdocs/ajemyanv.htm (http://www.composers21.com/compdocs/ajemyanv.htm)

This is a fascinating symphony, a bit darker than I had expected, but very muscular.  I've had a hard time listening to much else the last day or two.   Imagine a hybrid of Pettersson and Katchaturian.  Not exactly restful, but very dramatic.  If any of you can find out more about the work and the composer (and, better yet, more recordings!) I'd be very interested.

jowcol,

Ajemyan / Adzhemian etc. was born in 1925 and died in 1987. He was a pupil of Yeghiazarian and composed six symphonies, none of which was released commercially. You are right his style is darker than one might expect in the context of Soviet music, however if you have a closer look at the Armenian composers scene in particular you'll note that this is not that unusual.

I have two of his works, i.e. the Third Symphony which you just uploaded (a very fine and dense piece indeed, btw it's from 1967) and his Pastoral Sinfonietta. Again, in case of the latter, the title is somewhat misleading: actually it is quite a complex and dark piece as well, not exactly what might come to our minds when thinking about the term "pastoral". I will upload it.

Quote from: Holger on Wednesday 30 May 2012, 16:29
jowcol,

Ajemyan / Adzhemian etc. was born in 1925 and died in 1987. He was a pupil of Yeghiazarian and composed six symphonies, none of which was released commercially. You are right his style is darker than one might expect in the context of Soviet music, however if you have a closer look at the Armenian composers scene in particular you'll note that this is not that unusual.

I have two of his works, i.e. the Third Symphony which you just uploaded (a very fine and dense piece indeed, btw it's from 1967) and his Pastoral Sinfonietta. Again, in case of the latter, the title is somewhat misleading: actually it is quite a complex and dark piece as well, not exactly what might come to our minds when thinking about the term "pastoral". I will upload it.

Much thanks!  I can't wait to give it a listen.    Also, you've found another spelling for me to search on...

Symphony (#3) by Lev Abeliovich
(http://www.balandin.net/Gunin/music/lev.abeliovich.jpg)

From the collection of Karl Miller

About the Recording:
Update:  Holger believes that this was a radio broadcast, and is unaware of any LP or CD release of this work.   I've revised this posting to match his comments to follow.

About the work:
It seems he studied under Miaskovsky-- if you like him, (which I do!) you may find a lot to enjoy here.  Long melodic lines and introspective.


Biographical Data

I didn't find too much about him, but here are a couple of snippets.

LEV ABELIOVICH
(1912-1985, BELARUS)
Born in Vilnius, Lithuania. He studied at the Warsaw Conservatory and then at the Minsk Conservatory where he studied under Vasily Zolataryov. After graduation from the latter institution, he took further composition courses with Nikolai Miaskovsky at the Moscow Conservatory. He composed orchestral, vocal and chamber works. His other Symphonies are Nos. 1 (1962), 3 in B flat minor (1967) and 4 (1969).

Lev Abeliovich (ah-bel-yo'-vitch) was born in 1912 in Lithuania. He studied piano at the Warsaw Conservatory and began composing in the mid-1930s. He fled Poland in 1939 to avoid the Nazi extermination camps, taking up residence in Belarus where he remained for most of his life until his death in 1985. Although Abeliovich composed extensively, and his vocal music ranks with the best of the 20th century Eastern European repertory, systematic Soviet anti-Semitism prevented him from receiving the critical acclaim and support he deserved. For example, major publications on music in the Soviet Union make no mention of him.

jowcol,

it might seem I am currently trying to comment all your uploads ;D but Soviet music is probably the key field of my collection, so there is often at least some additional information which I can provide.

As for Abeliovich's symphonies, the one you uploaded is really the Third (I also got my copy from Karl). Here is the evidence: according to the German music encyclopedia MGG, No. 1 is in D Major, No. 2 in E Minor (and I have it anyway), No. 3 in B flat Minor and No. 4 in E Minor. As the Abeliovich symphony from Karl is in B flat Minor (I can hear that) it must be No. 3 indeed.

The information about Melodiya LPs with all Abeliovich symphonies as stated on Onno's site is clearly wrong as far as I am informed. Mike Herman's discography only lists a recording of the Second, and it really seems this is the only one which appeared on LP (I have it). Onno's site is sometimes incorrect regarding information about LP releases, as soon as there is no catalogue number I'd be very careful. It's the same with several symphonies by Skulte or Machavariani's Fourth: all of them have never appeared on LP though Onno's site quite states the contrary.

I'm pretty sure this must be a broadcast recording. In any case, it has never been available on CD and most probably not on LP either.

Quote from: Holger on Wednesday 30 May 2012, 20:45
jowcol,

it might seem I am currently trying to comment all your uploads ;D but Soviet music is probably the key field of my collection, so there is often at least some additional information which I can provide.

As for Abeliovich's symphonies, the one you uploaded is really the Third (I also got my copy from Karl). Here is the evidence: according to the German music encyclopedia MGG, No. 1 is in D Major, No. 2 in E Minor (and I have it anyway), No. 3 in B flat Minor and No. 4 in E Minor. As the Abeliovich symphony from Karl is in B flat Minor (I can hear that) it must be No. 3 indeed.

The information about Melodiya LPs with all Abeliovich symphonies as stated on Onno's site is clearly wrong as far as I am informed. Mike Herman's discography only lists a recording of the Second, and it really seems this is the only one which appeared on LP (I have it). Onno's site is sometimes incorrect regarding information about LP releases, as soon as there is no catalogue number I'd be very careful. It's the same with several symphonies by Skulte or Machavariani's Fourth: all of them have never appeared on LP though Onno's site quite states the contrary.

I'm pretty sure this must be a broadcast recording. In any case, it has never been available on CD and most probably not on LP either.

Thanks for all of the information.  I'm afraid I don't have any more to post today.   :P   You'll see more in a day or two.

Here you can find some Chamber Symphonies by Stankovych :

http://intoclassics.net/news/2010-08-23-18126 (http://intoclassics.net/news/2010-08-23-18126)
http://intoclassics.net/news/2009-11-25-11336 (http://intoclassics.net/news/2009-11-25-11336)
http://intoclassics.net/news/2009-10-22-10052 (http://intoclassics.net/news/2009-10-22-10052)
http://intoclassics.net/news/2009-04-08-1734 (http://intoclassics.net/news/2009-04-08-1734)

Ah, thanks- Eric

And thanks again!

Thanks to reiger for the Arensky. I had the Lp and i am surprised that such beautiful music has not been re-recorded in its totality. A must for Arensky fans!

Abeliovich's Third is truly beautiful. What a shame that this composer was left in the dark. Incidentally, having an age-old passion for languages, I keep tracking transliteration systems and the most common Belarusian Latin (Łacinka) spelling for Lev Abeliovich would seem to be Leŭ Abielijovič.

Vasilenko- someone's probably mentioned, but the movements of his 3rd symphony op.81 are

1. Allegro con brio -- 2. Nokti︠u︡rn = [Nocturne] -- 3. Serenada = [Serenade] -- 4. Tarantella.

Also, from information on the 1950s Khrennikov/Vasilenko LP that the piano concerto op.128 seems to have come from (or at least, its Westminster version etc. ... ) - it seems (some library guessing?) that the pianist may have been Iakov Izrailevich Zak (there is at least another "J. Zak", Jonathan Zak known for his duo recordings with Simca Heled, but he's more recent.)

Helmer-Rainer Sinisalo sounds like a German version of a name- though it is VIAF-approved (which matters) (viaf.org). Harvard's library prefers Gelʹmer Nesterovich Sinisalo, for what it's worth? :) (Will keep trying to find out more about the symphony- unless someone already has the tempo indications or I already have and should have noticed I did... though more information still is good too, as with other composers and works; I treat iTunes as a database, the more basic info, the better. :) :) )

btw three different birth dates seem to be given in various places for Sergei Nikolaievich Barsukov (1912, 1918 and 1923). Musicsack seems to prefer 1923... as does VIAF (http://viaf.org/viaf/49120120). I don't know why, though.

As for Barsukov, I know the problem and I have done some research in vain myself. "1musikpensionaer" on YouTube once uploaded several pieces by Barsukov (which are deleted now), and he gave 1908 as year of birth. As he also provided a short CV (unlike other sources) I regard this as the most likely version at the moment (even more so as the CV also included some earlier years as I recall - alas I didn't save it).

There does appear to be at least 3 x  Sergei Barsukovs. One the composer, another an author and the last a footballer. The correct year of birth for the composer does appear to be 1923,

I asked my friend Malcolm Balan who is expert in this field and he came up with the following:

"He appears to have left Russia at a fairly early age to go to USA where he performed across that continent as well be piano tutor to Rachmaninov's children [so suspect he had to be pretty good]....yet no mention in any of the standard works on pianists.
Could not find a date of death.............but there is a Sergei Barsukov scholarship fund linked to the San Francisco Conservatoire"

A good chance this chap is still alive.

Thal

Got the finale of Kalachevsky's Ukrainian Symphony off YouTube.  It's Allegro.  It may not be completely accurate, as the other movements were wrong, but I'm rolling with it.

As to Sergei Barsukov he was born in 1908.
Such date is given on an old Meldiya LP (no. S10-09743-4) with his 2nd Piano cto . It was played by Vladimir Krainiev and All Soviet Radio SO under Maxim Shostakovich

It seems Sergei Barsukov is the Russian equivalent of John Smith.

Thal

wait until you actually do run into a composer with a name like Jan Smit and try to do any research about... never mind... :D!

I've added links to recordings of the original 1866 version of Tchaikovsky's Symphony No.1 and his early C minor Concert Overture, both of them unsung works by a very sung composer.

You wouldn't happen to have Tchaikovsky's Concert Overture in F as well, would you?  I think it's from 1865.

No, otherwise I'd have uploaded it. There were several other rarities in the BBC broadcasts but the performances have all appeared on CD at some stage.

The Overture in F has had digital recordings by both Pletnev (DG) and N Jarvi (BIS).
Easily available on either if you want it.
However...

...this is the beefed up revised version. The original version for smaller orchestra has to my knowledge never been recorded.

Music of Nikolai Kapustin
(http://d154044.u31.europeserver.nl/kapustin/index_html_files/27.jpg)
Kapustin on Piano with Oleg Lundstrem's Jazz Orchestra

1. Concert  Rhapsody Op. 25, 1976
2. Etude for Piano and Orch. Op 19, 1974
3.  Nocturne for Piano and Orchestra Op. 20, 1974

I've posted three works by Kapustin-- the composer known mostly for his attempts to apply classical rigor to jazz ideas-- you will see in the information below that he considers himself a classical composer. 

From his Wikipedia Bio:

Nikolai Girshevich Kapustin (Russian: Николай Гиршевич Капустин) (born November 22, 1937 in Gorlovka, Ukraine) is a Ukrainian Russian composer and pianist.

Kapustin studied piano with Avrelian Rubakh (pupil of Felix Blumenfeld who also taught Simon Barere and Vladimir Horowitz) and, later, Alexander Goldenweiser at the Moscow Conservatory. During the 1950s he acquired a reputation as a jazz pianist, arranger and composer. He is steeped, therefore, in both the traditions of classical virtuoso pianism and improvisational jazz.

He fuses these influences in his compositions, using jazz idioms in formal classical structures. An example of this is his Suite in the Old Style, Op. 28, written in 1977, which inhabits the sound world of jazz improvisation but is modelled on baroque suites such as the keyboard partitas composed by J. S. Bach, each movement being a stylised dance or a pair of dances in strict binary form. Other examples of this fusion are his set of 24 Preludes and Fugues, Op. 82, written in 1997, and the Op. 100 Sonatina.

Kapustin views himself as a composer rather than a jazz musician. He has said, "I was never a jazz musician. I never tried to be a real jazz pianist, but I had to do it because of the composing. I'm not interested in improvisation – and what is a jazz musician without improvisation? All my improvisation is written, of course, and they became much better; it improved them."[1]

Among his works are 20 piano sonatas, six piano concerti, other instrumental concerti, sets of piano variations, études and concert studies.

Russian and Japanese record labels have released several recordings of the composer playing his own music. He has also been championed by a number of prominent western pianists, including Steven Osborne and Marc-André Hamelin who both released CDs devoted to Kapustin.

Here is an interview with the band leader that may be of interest:
http://www.lundstrem-jazz.ru/eng/arhiv_press_01.php (http://www.lundstrem-jazz.ru/eng/arhiv_press_01.php)

and a clip of them performing together on Soviet TV:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEDI9_oNlCA


My Take
I usually don't weigh in on aspects of an "unsung" that don't appeal to me, but I find his solo works more interesting-- I wasn't all that impressed with the orchestrations/arrangements, but they are definitely accessible, and would won't upset any of the more delicate nervous systems.  But I was hoping for more.

I don't mind efforts to cross genres -- quite the contrary.  Classical has been adapting to, and redefining popular forms for a long time.  But,  for the most part, I have tended to find the most interesting Jazz/classical crossover attempts were those that started  on the Jazz side of the fence.  Jazz composers  like Gil Evans (Sketches of Spain with Miles Davis), Charles Mingus (the Black Saint and the Sinner Lady),  the amazing Duke Ellington (particularity his more ambitious later works like the Far East Suite and Afro-Eurasian Eclipse), and even Pharaoh Sanders, (if you want to live on the wild side , try The Creator has  a Master Plan), have done a lot more, from my point of view, to advance the idiom. 

Just my 5 cents worth.  Your mileage may vary.

These three come from here:
http://www.theory.caltech.edu/~kapustin/Nikolai/Nikolai_Kapustin_index.htm

They appear to actually be from an LP, though I keep wondering if the LP was originally in stereo.

Pesonally I absolutely adore much of his music. And incidentally there's a recording of the Piano Concerto No. 4 posted here somewhere (though also available http://d154044.u31.europeserver.nl/kapustin/music%20ludmil%20angelov.html among other non-commercial recordings on that site) 

Quote from: TerraEpon on Wednesday 27 June 2012, 18:49
These three come from here:
http://www.theory.caltech.edu/~kapustin/Nikolai/Nikolai_Kapustin_index.htm

They appear to actually be from an LP, though I keep wondering if the LP was originally in stereo.

Pesonally I absolutely adore much of his music. And incidentally there's a recording of the Piano Concerto No. 4 posted here somewhere (though also available http://d154044.u31.europeserver.nl/kapustin/music%20ludmil%20angelov.html among other non-commercial recordings on that site)

Thanks for providing the source-- I'll update the downloads page,  and and thank you more for sharing your feelings about his music.  I'm always happiest when people talk about the music they love-- even if it doesn't strike me the same way.

Greetings,

This is just a note that I am currently completing a special custom-subtitled DVD of Eduard Nápravník's "Dubrovsky" (in collaboration with several native Russian-speakers). The final DVD will contain two versions: the abridged 1961 telefilm and a second composite version of the same video (the only video of this opera out there) with most of the excised music reinstated from audio sources and fully subbed in English and Russian (some cuts to the score are missing from all extant recordings). The added audio will be accompanied by still photos from the 1961 film, as well as shots taken from the classic 1935 Soviet non-opera film of Pushkin's novel (the 1961 film already contains some exterior shots borrowed from the 1935 film; so I am merely adding a few more shots to complement the added music). This is probably the first time that this opera has been translated into English.

I am also working on an English, Russian and Ukrainian subtitled video of Mykola Lysenko's "Taras Bulba" (in collaboration with two native Ukrainain/Russian speakers).

I have also posted to the download section two of my rare opera subtitle projects from last year.  I have many others, as well (if anyone is interested).

Viktor Kosenko (1896-1938) - Piano Concerto (1928)


A live concert performance of this piece is now available on youtube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G96MJWiHdr4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G96MJWiHdr4) and it's a truly magnificant piece - very much in the Rachmaninov mould. I would love to hear what other people think.

Performers: Arthur Nikulin, Academic Symphonic Orchestra of Lviv Philharmonic Society, Dmytro Logvin

I have also made an mp3 from this recording and will drop in the Downloads section ( I presume this is allowed?).

"You wouldn't happen to have Tchaikovsky's Concert Overture in F as well, would you?  I think it's from 1865."

If you want this recording let me know.


Overture to the Storm Alexander Ostrovsky's drama, Op. 1864
Voivod Symphonic Ballad (by A. Mickiewicz), Op. posthumous
Fate Symphonic Fantasia Op. posthumous
Overture in F major (first edition), vol. 1865
Moscow State Symphony Orchestra
CONDUCTOR Veronica Dudarova

Solemn March in D Major, Op. 1883
Overture in C minor Op. 1866
Pravovedsky March in D Major Op. 1885
Slavic (Serbo-Russian) march in B flat minor, Op. 31
Overture in F major (second edition), vol. 1866
Solemn Overture on the Danish national anthem op. 15
State Academic Symphony Orchestra of the USSR
Conductor Alexander Lazarev

Serenade for Nikolay Rubinstein name day op. 1872
LARGE SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA Central Television and All-Union Radio
CONDUCTOR Vyacheslav Ovchinnikov

Elegy Memory IV Samarin, "Hey thanks," Op. 1884
Chamber Orchestra of Moscow State Conservatory
CONDUCTOR MICHAEL TERIAN

Solemn Overture "1812," op. Revision 49 V. Shebalin
State Academic Symphony Orchestra of the USSR
Conductor Yevgeny Svetlanov

Military March (dedicated to the 98 th Infantry Regiment Yuryev) in B flat major, Op. 1893 (original for Piano)
SEPARATE Orchestra of USSR Ministry of Defense
Conductor Nikolai Sergeyev


I can post the link in the Russian Download section.

Post away!!! ;D

My dear Herrarte:

That link was absolutely useless to me.  I appreciate it, but I don't even know if I got anything because I don't read Cyrillic.  All I got was a downloader, and when I try to use it I get an Error 503, whatever that is.  Please use Mediafire.

Just click the big red button.

Thanks to herrarte for the Tchaicovsky compilation. Those are really hard-to-find pieces! It was fun to listen to the Shebalin "intrusion" in the 1812 ouverture.
No problem whatsoever with the download.

RED button?! :o  Figures!  It's green everywhere else but Russia!  OK, I'll try it again this afternoon.  I really want that Overture in F! 

Quote from: JimL on Friday 06 July 2012, 14:33
RED button?! :o  Figures!  It's green everywhere else but Russia!  OK, I'll try it again this afternoon.  I really want that Overture in F! 

I;m guessing it's like other file sharing sites -- the green is for "premium" download and red is for "free" download.

Re Kosenko: mention of a recording on CD of his cello sonata in one of the other subfora (by user MikeW) made me do a quick- erm... something... but yes, the recording we have here is apparently not the same people. Interesting, didn't realize quite how many recordings of his music we have now- violin and piano concertos, that cello sonata, for instance. My computer is in HD pain again :) but once I've got some unneeded things deleted and less needed files burned to disc, looking forward to hearing those; the violin concerto intrigues for some reason.
(I don't see an LP mentioned of the violin concerto, but one of violin and piano pieces coupled with Lyatoshinski's violin sonata did exist. Intriguing.)
The one major work not for piano solo by Kosenko that I do see listed on LP besides his Heroic Overture that I can find fairly easily is his Classic (Piano) Trio.

Is there any movement information on the Kosenko PC?  I can't seem to find anything on it.

Trying to, though it was composed in 1928 and may be in copyright in the US if published properly so the score may not be available for free (there seem to be some sites selling it, or I should say duet reductions of it, though.)

Taming of the Shrew (Ballet Suite) by Aleksandr(Alexey) Davidovich Machavariani (1984)
(http://www.matchavariani.ge/alexi/photo/27.jpg)

National Symphony Orchestra of Georgia
Vakhtang Matchavariani, Conductor
Private Recording of Live Performance
Date, Venue unknown.

From the collection of Karl Miller


This is a work by a Georgian composer-- it strikes me as somewhere between Katchaturian and Shostakovitch- some very dynamic rhythms, colorful, and predominately tonal.

Wikipedia Biography:

Aleksandr(Alexey) Davidovich Machavariani (Georgian: ალექსი მაჭავარიანი) (Gori 23 September 1913 – Tbilisi 30 December 1995 ) was a Georgian composer and conductor
.
Aleksi Machavariani was born in Gori. He graduated from the Tbilisi Conservatory in 1936 and remained there for a postgraduate study. Later he joined the faculty, becoming a professor in 1963. He began his artistic career in 1935.

Machavariani produced a number of critically acclaimed plays and ballets, including the ballet "Othello" (1957), the operas "Mat i Sin" (1945), "Den moei Rodini" (1954), the symphony "Piat monologov" (1971; it earned the Shota Rustaveli Prize). He also wrote the music to many theatrical productions, including "Baratashvili" and "Legenda o liubvi". His output includes among other works also a violin concerto (1950), 7 symphonies (1947–1992) and six string quartets (the last in 1993).[1]

He was the artistic director of the Georgian State Symphony Orchestra from 1956 till 1958 and directed the Composers' Union of Georgia from 1962 till 1968.[2]


Bio from his website :

    The most eminent composer, People's Artist of the USSR, a winner of the USSR State Prize and Shota Rustaveli Prize of Georgia, Golden Medal winner of "Centro Cultural Braidense – Milano" for ballet "Othello", Professor, winner of many Soviet and International Prizes, Cavalier of many Orders, chairman of the Georgian Union of composers: 1962-1973, since 1979 – member of the board of the Union of Soviet Composers until 1992, a Deputy of the USSR Supreme Council 1962-1970.

    A. Matchavariani was born in the town of Gori in Eastern Georgia in a noble family. The folk tunes of his homeland were the first sources of his musical education. Later, at the age of 6, he started his training on piano and violin. After graduating the Tbilisi Conservatory (composition) he completed his postgraduate training in the art of composition as a pupil of Prof. P.B. Ryazanov. Later (in 1961) he became the professor of the Tbilisi State Conservatory, the recommendation for his professorship was written by D. Shostakovich & T. Khrennikov.

    In twenty's and in thirty's he was many times arrested, but his fate and his music was saving him again and again.

    His first success he had with his piano composition "Chorumi" 1937. It was after "Chorumi" when the great Georgian conductor, GMD of the Tbilisi Opera and of the Georgian State Orchestra E. Mikeladze proposed him to write an opera. A. Matchavariani wrote his first opera "Mother and Son" in 1942. Matchavariani's first big success was the piano concerto 1944, which was first performed in Tbilisi, few months later in Moscow, after in Leningrad, Germany and other places. After writing his first compositions for the orchestra: "Elegy" in 1936, "Scherzo" – 1936, "Mumli Mukhasa" – 1939. A. Matchavariani composes his First Symphony in 4 movements in 1947, which brought him a great success. The symphony was first performed in Tbilisi , Moscow and Leningrad , later in many other cities. The some time together with D. Shostakovich and S. Prokofiev he was accused in "formalism". After Stalin's death, the situation has started to change.

    The new dimension and sensational success had A. Matchavariani after writing his famous violin concerto in 1949, which was performed in many countries. First performers were M. Weiman ( Leningrad ) and D. Oistrach ( Moscow ). The concerto was recorded a number of times by "Melodia", as well by "Columbia Records" in USA .

    In 1952 he was again on the Red List to be deported together with his family. His destiny has saved him again.

    "The Day of my Homeland" Oratorio was written in 1955. The same year it's first performance was in Moscow , conducted by A. Gauk, who was the first interpreter of that and some other compositions of A. Matchavariani. The Oratorio became one of the most popular pieces in the USSR and was broadcasted many times on the Soviet Radio, recorded for "Melodia".

    In the period 1940-1955, A. Matchavariani wrote a lot of chamber music for piano, violin, choir and vocal music. Many of these compositions became the jewellery of Georgian and Soviet music.

    "<Othello> is a feast of arts" wrote Mr. Tzarev in Soviet Culture in 1958, Moscow after attending it's performance at "Bolshoi" theatre. "Othello" was finished in 1957. This ballet brought A. Matchavariani a stunning success in Georgia, in Moscow ("Bolshoi"), in Leningrad (at "Kirov" theater), in many cities of the former USSR, in USA, in Paris, in Japan, in Finland, in Germany, in Romania and many other places. With "Othello", it is the end of one chapter in a musical language of A. Matchavariani and beginning of a new musical expression.

    In 1960 he started another big composition, it is "Hamlet", an opera in two acts. This work continues until 1967. The opera was prohibited by Georgian authority's.

    In 1964 A. Matchavariani has finished "5-Monolognes" for baritone and orchestra, for which he was rewarded with S. Rustaveli Prize. With "5-Momolognes" and with "Hamlet", A. Matchavariani has started a new musical language and the much more modern way of expressing his musical ideas, together with a new way of designing his score. With symphony №2 he continues his new musical language.1972. The critics have baptized this symphony as a beginning of the PHILOSOPHICAL SYMPHONISM in Georgia .

    In 1977 A. Matchavariani wrote probably the most important composition for him. It is ballet "The Knight in the tiger skin", the poem of the 12-th century of the greatest Georgian poet and philosopher S. Rustaveli, pride of Georgia . It's first production was in Leningrad , at "Kirov"(Mariisky) theatre, choreographer O. Vinogradov. The "Knight" had a great success in Leningrad (during 7 years) Moscow , USA , Paris , Japan , Tbilisi and many other places.

    After writing a number of chamber, choral and vocal music, in 1979 he wrote a musical comedy "The Bug" after V. Mayakovsky. In 1983 Matchavariani has finished №3 and №4 symphonies. №3 Symphony is a composition of a huge power, deep and tender. The critic wrote about it: It is universal and human, cosmic and earthy. №4 symphony "The Youth's" for strings, percussion, piano, celesta and harp is a sparkling, melodic, lyrical, motor composition with electric dynamism.

    After writing the ballet in two acts "The Taming of the shrew" after W. Shakespeare in 1984, he continues the line of the symphony №3 and in 1986 he writes a stunning №5 symphony "Ushba". 46 minute symphony in two parts (without interval) is a huge universal power, like a philosophical treaty. Matchavariani is using 8:horns, 4:trumpets, 4:trombones, 2:tubas, 70:strings, a huge orchestra. He is using 8 horns and 4 trumpets already in №3 symphony, but in №5 symphony Matchavariani is using around 115 musicians.

    Immediacy after "Ushba" he writes his symphony №6 "Amirani"(Prometheus) 1987 which continues the line of №5 symphony and is a beginning of the third chapter of a new musical language.

    In 1987 he writes as well a cello concerto, for strings, harp and cello, in 3 movements.

    Next composition is a Symphony №7 "Gelati"(1989) for the choir and orchestra, after the poems of the king David the constructor of Georgia, opera "Medea" in 2 acts (1991) and ballet "Pirosmani"(1992) in 2 acts , which has not been performed yet, it way not performed as well the ballet "Taming of the Shrew".

    These compositions have not been performed because A. Matchavariani often was not in favor of Georgian authorities, because of telling always the truth.

    A. Matchavariani wrote 4 string quartets, two piano sonatas, violin sonata, many compositions for piano, violin, cello, choir, vocal, music for theatre and cinema. The film "The secret of two oceans" were he wrote the music was rewarded at Venice film festival. His music was recorded on "Melodia", "Columbia Records" and other companies, as well for Radio and TV.
    A. Matchavariani wrote as well a lot of poems and philosophical treaties, his thoughts about music.

    He was a giving, deep, optimistic, highly spiritual person and a big humanist.

    People like D. Shostakovich, A. Khachaturian, K. Karaev, M. Rostropovich, D. Oistach, I. Stern, S. Richter, J. Temirkanov, J. Grigorovich, S. Virsaladze, V. Tchabukiani, O. Vinogradov, V. Gergiev, A. Toradze, L. Isakadze, P. Burchuladze and many other musicians and artist were visiting his house.

    A. Matchavariani has died on the 31 of December 1995, the newspaper "Kultura" in Moscow wrote few days after: "Your countenance is excellent – in all of composition, in all of pages of symphony's, operas, ballet scores; in each phrase, line, note, of vocal and instrumental music... Alexei Matchavariani – friend and a hero of the row of materials at our newspaper. Editorial office of "Kultura". Moscow , 13-01-96.".

The Machavariani I've heard so far (violin concerto, first symphony) seemed rather good. I think the family maintains a commemorative website with a reasonable amount of information etc. ... Thanks!

His music's obviously so hot that it set his hair on fire!

"Smokin'"

Those interested in E. Stikhin's music may wish to check in the intoclassics.net website, which has his Doctor Zhivago Symphonic Fantasia.

Having listened several times to Taming of the Shrew, I don't wonder he began to spontaneously combust. It's so full of energy - great fun.  ;D

Many thanks to jowcol and Karl Miller!  :)

I tried to find the YouTube with Machavariani's Piano Concerto in order to get the movements, but it seems to have disappeared.  Can anybody provide this info?

My thanks  to herrarte for Serov's The Zaporozhye Cossacks!

Re the upload of Tchaikovsky's Kuznets Vakula, the performers are here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/tchaikovskyexperience/pip/sfq4s/ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/tchaikovskyexperience/pip/sfq4s/):

Tchaikovsky: Vakula the Smith
A BBC archive recording of Tchaikovsky's opera based on Gogol's tale Christmas Eve.

Narrator ...... Patricia Routledge
Vakula ...... David Bender (tenor)
Solokha ...... Anne Collins (mezzo)
Devil ...... Donald Maxwell (baritone)
Chub ...... Clive Bayley (bass)
Oxana ...... Susan Roberts (soprano)
The Mayor and His Excellency ...... Nicholas Folwell (baritone)
Panas and School Teacher ...... Neil Jenkins (tenor)
Chorus of Opera North
BBC Philharmonic
Edward Downes (conductor)

Thanks Ilja,
I remember now that I cut out the narration, I don't think anyone will miss it, but all the music is there.

After finally giving the Gubarenko S 1 a listen, I'm firmly convinced that the initial Moderato tempo in the 1st movement is just an introduction and the main body of the movement is some kind of Allegro.  Anybody have any further details?  I looked on every page in my search and failed to turn up any more useful information other than that there is a two-piano version somewhere.

hrm. there's a CD of Hubarenko (= Gubarenko)'s chamber symphony for violin and orchestra out, I see... (performed by Oleh Krysa - see discography (http://www.olehkrysa.com/discography.php). It does say not released, but some library may have it, or something. Seems to be a reissue of a 1974 LP actually... Saw it mentioned on Worldcat, which is - being stubborn this evening. Anyhow, offtopic. Will see if I can find out anything about Vitalij's first symphony...)

Much obliged, O grand Searchmeister!  :)

Very many thanks for the Cui uploads Mathias.

First: *blush*
Second: I can't even find the 2-piano version referred to- I see references to his later symphonies (e.g. 2nd symphony op.11, full score at- at Cornell apparently- interesting... ok, so if it were the 2nd symphony op.11 published in 1972, I'd just have to go "up the block"...)

O Grand Searchmeister, you'll probably be at your 4,000th post tomorrow ;D ;D! You are truly our most "heroic" member (in terms number of posts, that is). And I am almost at my 100th post ;D! Not bad for a new member, eh ;)?

Laddie, when I was new I, too, posted like gangbusters.  After a while, though, you slow down.  But you're doing great, kid.  Damn the torpedoes and all that! ;D

I was going to say something about quality being preferable to quantity. Oops, I've said it...

And there was me, a model of restraint, not saying that for the last four hours since I read that exchange...  ;D

A post purloined, nay filched, pilfered, swiped, nicked, lifted and thieved!

Quote from: Mark Thomas on Wednesday 08 August 2012, 21:16
Very many thanks for the Cui uploads Mathias.

Hear, hear! I've never heard the 1st string quartet before and it's a lovely work. Although it may be unkind to call it "a poor man's Borodin 2nd" (finished a decade earlier), Cui must surely have had that work echoing through his mind? ;D

I am seduced by virtually anything written by 'The Five', and I had previously only listened to Cui's 2nd courtesy of Steve's BB, so this was much appreciated.  So, too, the overture. :)

I wonder if an uploadable 3rd SQ is hiding in someone's collection?  ;D

I don't know of recordings of Cui's first or third quartets, opp.45 or 91, though I thought I did...

I'm probably annoying the heck out of you guys with my incessant posting ;D ;D! But, like Jim said, I'll probably slow down. And re the quality vs. quantity, it's hard to make both work at the same time ;)! UC is becoming an addiction, I must say!

I'm delighted that you're enjoying UC, Kyjo, but there really is something in the adage that "less is more".

As to Soviet Russian music, anyone wishing to share his views (or should I say 'hears'?) on Evgeny Golubev's music? I found some of his music, and what I heard sounded very interesting indeed! Especially the four string quartets I found (nos. 4, 10, 11 and 15) makes we wish to hear the other 20(!).
Now the Quatuor Danel has finished their very fine cycle of Mieczyslaw Weinberg's Quartets, perhaps they (and CPO) could do us the favor of turning to Golubev?

Al best,
Gijs

Gijs, I've heard Golubev's violin concerto on YouTube. I can't remember much of it (that may tell you something ;)), but it was in a lyrical, neoromantic style. His Piano Concerto no. 3 (on an OOP Melodiya CD coupled with his Piano Sonata no. 4) is actually quite Rachmaninoffian! Golubev's large output would definitely be worth exploring, and yes, the Danel Quartet would be the perfect group to tackle the Golubev quartets!

I've uploaded a Golubev quartet or two (#9 in full, two movements of quartet 19, I think)  if I recall as MIDIs in the meanwhile if one wants to get a notion what some of them sounded like (I believe fyrexia uploaded the 10th quartet from LP, too.)

Oh, -there's- Cui's first quartet...

Quote from: TerraEpon on Friday 06 July 2012, 18:42

Quote from: JimL on Friday 06 July 2012, 14:33
RED button?! :o  Figures!  It's green everywhere else but Russia!  OK, I'll try it again this afternoon.  I really want that Overture in F! 

I;m guessing it's like other file sharing sites -- the green is for "premium" download and red is for "free" download.

I was confused by this too. The green button downloads to yor computer an Executable file (exe). No way would I ever execute a program file obtained from a Russian site. In this case, Red is better.