Author Topic: Julius Zellner 1832-1900  (Read 1546 times)

giles.enders

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Julius Zellner 1832-1900
« on: Tuesday 05 March 2013, 10:48 »
Julius Zellner Born 1832 Vienna  Died 1900 Murzzuschlag, Austria

Spent most of his life in Vienna as a teacher and composer.

Orchestral


Symphony in F major  Op.7
Symphony in B flat  Op.44
Symphonietta in A major  Op.26
'Melusine' symphonic suite five movements  Op.10
Piano Concerto in E flat major Op.12
Hochzeitsmarsch in F minor  Op.31  1881

Chamber

Ten works for cello and piano  Op.1  1864
Piano Quartet in C minor Op.23  1880
Piano Trio in B minor  Op.5  1870
Piano Trio in F  Op.25  1881
Piano Trio in C sharp minor  Op.46  1890
Sextet for two violins, two violas and two cellos in E major  Op.32
String Quartet in G minor  Op.14
String Quartet in D minor  Op.34  1886
Variations on a theme by J S Bach for string quartet  Op.33  1882
String Trio in C minor  Op.36  1881
Violin Sonata in D  Op.20  1877
Violin Sonata in F  Op.30  1881
Cello Sonata   Op.11  1872
Cello Sonata in G Op.22  1880

Piano

Five Characterstucke  Op.2
Six Characterstucke  Op.3
Suite for piano  Op.4
Fantasie on old German folk songs Op.6
Adagio and Allegro appasionata Op.8
Three pieces Op.9
Three pieces - Andante, Scherzo, Finale. Op.13
Eight pieces  Op.15
Two country style pieces  Op.17
Eighteen easy pieces  1880  Op.18
Two small suites  Op.19
Two Impromptus  Op.21
Three pieces, Notturno, Capriccio and Intermezzo Op.27  1880
Twelve pieces  Op.35  1882
Piano Sonatina in C  Op.37/1
Piano Sonatina in E minor  Op.37/2
Three German dances for piano four hands  Op.39
Sonatine  Op.45

Vocal

'The Waterfall'  for chorus and orchestra  Op.24  1880
Four Lieder:  No.1 I saw three birds fly, No.2 The hide in the forest, No.3 Spring, No.4 Good Night!  Op.29  1881





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Re: Julius Zellner 1832-1900
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 05 March 2013, 21:51 »
The Piano Concerto is Op.12 and is in E flat major.

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Re: Julius Zellner 1832-1900
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 06 March 2013, 05:25 »
From Hofmeister (which is tolerably complete):

Opp. with dates of publication

Chamber
1   10 stucke for piano and cello   1864
11   Cello Sonata No. 1   1872
22   Cello Sonata No. 2 in G   1880
23   Piano Quartet in c minor   1880
5   Piano Trio No. 1 in b minor   1870
25   Piano Trio No. 2 in F   1881
46   Piano Trio No. 3 in c# minor   1890
14   String Quartet No. 1 in g minor   
33   Variationen über ein Thema J.S. Bach’s f. 2 V., Vla u. Vcello   1882
34   String Quartet No. 2 in d minor   1886
   String Sextet in E   
20   Violin Sonata No. 1 in D   1877
30   Violin Sonata No. 2 in d minor   1881

Orchestral
12   Piano Concerto in Eb   
10   Melusine. 5 sinfonische Stücke f. Orch.   1872
7   Symphony in F   1871
26   Sinfonietta in A   1880
44   Symphony in Bb   
31   Hochzeitsmarsch f. gr. Orch.    1881

Piano
15   8 Klavierstucke   
45   Sonatine   
2   5 Charakterstücke.   1869
3   6 Charakterstucke   
4   Suite   
6   Fantasie (D) über ein altdeutsches Volkslied in Form von Variationen   1870
8   Adagio u. Allegro appassionato.    1872
9   3 Stücke   1872
13   3 Stucke (Andante, Scherzo, Finale)   
17   2 ländliche Stücke f. Pfte.   1875
18   18 leichte Stücke f. Pfte   1880
19   2 kleine Suiten   
21   Impromptus f. Pfte. No. 1 (Des) Mk 1,50. No. 2 (Cism.)   1876
27   3 Stücke f. Pfte. (Notturno. Capriccio. Intermezzo.)   1880
35   12 Klavierstücke.   1882
37.1   Piano Sonatina in C   
37.2   Piano Sonatina in e minor   1882
39   3 deutsche Tänze f. Pfte zu 4 Hdn.   1882

Vocal
29   4 Lieder f. gem. Chor. (No. 1. Volksweise: „Drei Vöglein sah ich fliegen“. No. 2. Reigen: „Die Haid’ und der Wald“. No. 3. Frühling: „Viel tausend Stimmen tönen auf zum Himmel“. No. 4. Gute Nacht: „Ueberall Stille und Ruh’“.)    1881
24   Die Wasserfee: „Endlos über Wasser hauchen Nebel“, f. gem. Chor m. Orch. Klavier-Auszug u. Singst. [Harfe od. 2. Pfte ad lib.)   1880




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Re: Julius Zellner 1832-1900
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 06 March 2013, 12:19 »
Not sure why the date gaps in your list; they seem mostly easily filled. Hofmeister also gives opp. 3 and 4 also published 1869 (http://hofmeister.rhul.ac.uk/2008/content/monatshefte/1869_09.html) for example.
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Re: Julius Zellner 1832-1900
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 06 March 2013, 17:03 »
Because when I searched for "Zellner", nothing showed up for those missing opera. I then searched the PDF version (which has no dates, and sometimes has more detail on instrumentation).

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Re: Julius Zellner 1832-1900
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 06 March 2013, 20:57 »
Briefly put, that is -not- how to use hofmeister.rhul.ac.uk. Use it by understanding how its search engine operates (and what it is, and is not). Shall I elaborate?  (And "the PDF version" is a different thing and ... agh. There are three, four or five or six or... being conflated here into one single "Hofmeister", but are actually slightly to entirely separate things! Gah, that almost deserves a thread to itself, and a page on IMSLP too, since this happens so often there.)

At the least, always, and I mean always, use those "view transcription" and "view facsimile" links to make sure you get everything. Transcription because it's easier to search, facsimile because OCRs get things wrong.

(Also, just go  to here and read their own introduction to the project at length. That should be better than any description I can give you of what it is.)
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Re: Julius Zellner 1832-1900
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 07 March 2013, 10:23 »
No, actually, I'm good with my search methods (at Hofmeister and other sites I've used for the past several years). I use advanced search - which can vary based on spelling errors, etc. And for precision, the 'pdf' is:
Verlag des Universal - Handbuch der Musikliteratur (The Universal Handbook of Musical Literature), edited by Pazdirek., Vienna.

Perhaps 'slightly to entirely separate things', however, the wording for each music entry is (for most) nearly identical, and for purposes of list compilation, perfectly adequate.

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Re: Julius Zellner 1832-1900
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 07 March 2013, 11:32 »
Is anything known about his life, I could find very little. I have to say that is the beauty of this forum, one has only to post the scantest of information and the dots are joined!

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Re: Julius Zellner 1832-1900
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 07 March 2013, 13:31 »
Slightly to entirely separate things-
(1) Hofmeister Monatsberichte, the publication itself, released from about 1829 to the mid-1940s.
(2) the scans of that publication at the Austrian National Library (ÖNB).
(3) the searchable and browsable transcribed database of optical-character-recognition text versions of those ÖNB scans from 1829 to 1900 (but no further) at Royal Holloway, University of London (rhul.ac.uk).
(4) Other publications by Whistling and Hofmeister - Whistling and Hofmeister's Handbuch der musikalischen Literatur and similar publications released every few years in two volumes from 1818? until the early years, I think, of the middle of the 20th century.
(5) entirely separate (no related corporate ownership, only tenuous at best related history, etc.) : e.g. Pazdirek (which you refer to, Balapoel) and the Challier publications (Challier is somewhat analogous to "Hofmeister" being itself, like Hofmeister, a publisher releasing a journal of publications and information and advertisements useful to the industry, but Challier is lieder/song-focused) ; the French and Belgian Bibliographie publications (necessary often because Hofmeister usually only catches first German/Russian/sometimes English publications and often plain misses French-orbit ones; if one wants to be more sure relatively of -first- publication dates, especially for a French composer but sometimes for others too e.g. Rosenhain whose publications appeared in both spheres, one needs both sources very much...) British publications like the Musical Times and others via Google and Archive.org etc. help here too also, and AMZ for earlier German publications esp. by Breitkopf.

The thing with a composer search, or any search on RHUL (type 3), is that it will get any line in which the composer/search term is mentioned, but not any in which the composer/search term was mentioned in the line above and is taken "as read" because they were mentioned in the lines above (in the case of a publisher, is mentioned as "Ebend."/the same). Like I said, use "view transcription" and "view facsimile". Or be stubborn because I said so and you just don't wanna. (Sheesh.)

Thanks to Cypressdome over @ IMSLP for pulling together much of this information (though in a much friendlier form) with (when IMSLP is working, which is not today) uploadable forms of a number of these, like the French Bibliographie, etc.)
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