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Kurt Masur

Started by MartinH, Sunday 20 December 2015, 03:54

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MartinH

1927-2015. Not especially committed to rare, obscure music, but sure gave a nice set of Bruch symphonies. I always loved the bolo tie.

eschiss1

Actually, judging from his broadcast and recording legacy, he -was- quite committed to rare and obscure music, just not especially to Romantic-era rare and obscure music necessarily. (E.g., not everyone premieres Schnittke symphonies (3rd, 1981; 7th, February 1994. Other works incl. Dutilleux "Sur la meme accord", 2002. Etc. ...). Think what you will of them, this is still true.)

(I know we equate "Romantic-era obscure" and "obscure" rather by way of "term of art" here, but that can be confusing to people just browsing the forum...)

(Not to forget his early (ca.1970s, on Deutsche Schallplatten?) recordings of the Mendelssohn string symphonies, so I won't... not obscure now- but then?)

adriano

With all my respect for his great personality, commitment and professionalism, many of his recordings are quite dull. Into the great orchestras which were given to him, he could have put more drive and spark. Perhaps he was much better in concert. I don't have any of his live recordings, my judgement may be one-sided. Just last week I re-listened to some items from his EMI-Liszt boxed set. After that I urgently needed to play the same pieces with Golovanov, JoĆ³ or Haitink - or Karajan, who, unfortunately, did not record all of Liszt's symphonic poems.

Alan Howe

I agree with Adriano. On the whole a safe pair of hands - but dull, dull...

adriano


Alan Howe

His Beethoven 9 at the Proms a few years back sent me to sleep. Oh dear: I'm sure he had many virtues. I too value highly his Bruch symphonies on Philips - great to hear them so sympathetically played by a world-class orchestra.

Ilja

"Safe hands" just about sums it up, I guess; not so much with newer repertory, though, where he was more adventurous. You need to realize that for an important part of his career he worked in the GDR, where he was instrumental in keeping the the country musically alive. I would also say that by natural inclination he showed most of his creativity in post-romantic era works (Eisler and Wolf, for instance). Despite all that, I still have to hear a better Bruch 2 (and a more lively one) than his.

sdtom

Not a favorite conductor of mine.

musiclover

Masur was a fine accompanist as a conductor in a time when many others are not, and that should not either be forgotten or under valued. I saw a fabulous performance of the Beethoven Triple with Mutter, Harrell and Previn. Come to think of it, I wonder how it worked with a conductor on the rostrum and another on the piano, both of them with strong musical personalities.
I think his Beethoven performances will most likely be his legacy, but even then it is in my view mostly limited to his performances with Leipzig. It could be that the political system in the GDR, however abhorrent to him, suited his musical development with the orchestra in Leipzig and once free from that system he never quite recaptured the style and sound he had had with the other more democratic orchestras he worked with. As for pushing neglected music, I agree with the others here, he didn't do much for it.

Delicious Manager

Let's not forget Masur's vital role during the uprising in the old East Germany in 1989. When pro-democracy demostrations in Masur's home town of Leipzig were being threatened with being put down with Tiananmen Square-type state violence, Masur used his influence to contact the head of the Communist party and the demonstrators in the street to call for calm. Violence was avoided and Masur was the hero of the hour.

Richard Moss

IMHO I would respectfully suggest his set with Accardo of all Bruch's violin and orchestra works was very much championing unsung works (albeit by a sung composer). 

At the time I suspect the wider Bruch (non-specialist) audience had heard little more that Kol Nidrei, VC 1,  Sym 2 and maybe the odd other work.  Having been on the look-out for other Bruch violin works, I was amazed when this set came out.  Since then I've tried to look up details of unsung works by all composers  - sung or otherwise - for whom I have (or desire!) some repertoire, so I then know what else to keep an eye out for.

Since then, I've discovered UC and contibutors' marvellous lists of various composers ouevres, so I've probably got a bit lazy in the research dept (which, in the 1980s to early 90s, mostly entailed going to the local library to trawl through the latest RED catalogue (a habit started in the 1950s by studying the Gramaphone Classical record Catalogue, as I believe it was then called).

Sorry for digressing.  In relation to previous threads on unsung works by sung composers, do members feel the Accardo set was a bit of a pioneering release or have I missed the point (I don't mind being wrong as long as I can understand where and why).

Cheers

Richard

Alan Howe

No, you're right, I'm sure.

Alan Howe

Having read the obituary of Masur in The Times today, one understands much better his wider role in the former DDR as well as his talents as an orchestral trainer. Apparently it was Masur who brought the Leipzig Gewandhaus Orchestra back to its former glory.

Herbert Pauls

As far as unsung music is concerned, the Accardo/Masur Bruch set really does seem to have stood out for its quality and polish, both orchestrally and in terms of sound. During the earlier years of the Romantic Revival there was much happening but one often had to put up with some hasty production values. If only Ponti and Rosand had been given sound and orchestras up to Philips standards for their many recordings! There were a few things with top orchestras and labels like Wild's Scharwenka and Paderewski Concertos on RCA and Lewenthal's Rubinstein and Henselt Columbias with the LSO but those, like Accardo's revivals of unknown Bruch, were a real treat. I think of his Paganini Concerto set in the same terms.

chill319

In the 3rd Bruch VC especially, Masur inspires his players to contribute real character to the orchestral score. I'm sure he made similar contributions in other corners of the repertory here and there. And he certainly displayed character at a crucial moment in East Germany's political history.

Masur's Mendelssohn symphonies, on the other hand, are so glib that in the 1970s they literally infuriated me as nothing musical has before or since. I think Masur tended to conduct safely, as if above all to avoid criticism. Thus his performances often render a then-current musico-social center of the aesthetic Bell curve with minimal deviation. Put another way, many of his performances could not be more predictable.

Bottom line: He had a pretty good run for a man of his talents.

QuoteApparently it was Masur who brought the Leipzig Gewandhaus Orchestra back to its former glory.
Good for him. Myself, I would have thought Vaclav Neumann had something to do with that restoration.