Potter Symphonies vol.3 (cpo)

Started by Alan Howe, Thursday 17 July 2025, 11:15

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Alan Howe

...a mid-August release in Germany:
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/cpo/detail/-/art/cipriani-potter-symphonie-nr-2-b-dur/hnum/11576874

Featuring: Symphonies in C minor (1834) and D major (1833), i.e. Nos. 8 and 7, highlighted in bold, below:

Symphony [No. 1] in G minor (1819, revised 1824–26 & 1833) [styled No. 1 by the composer]
Symphony [No. 2] in B♭ major (1821, revised 1839) [unnumbered by the composer]
Symphony [No. 3] in C minor (1826, revised 1847) [styled No. 6 by the composer]
Symphony [No. 4] in F major (1826) [styled No. 7 by the composer]
Symphony [No. 5] in E♭ major (1828, revised 1846 with replacement slow movement) [styled No. 8 by the composer]
Symphony [No. 6] in G minor (1832) [styled both No. 10 and No. 2 in G minor by the composer]
Symphony [No. 7] in D major (1833) [styled No. 2 in D major by the composer]
Symphony [No. 8] in C minor (1834) [unnumbered by the composer]
Symphony [No. 9] in D major (1834) [styled No. 4 in D major by the composer]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cipriani_Potter

promusician

Pity they didn't include the Piano Concerto No.3 as a filler, which is far more superior than the Ricercate

Gareth Vaughan

Perhaps that will be included in a later release. I am hoping so.

Alan Howe

Quote from: promusician on Friday 18 July 2025, 02:05Pity they didn't include the Piano Concerto No.3

I think the series is pretty generous as it is - adding larger concertante works is likely to have slowed up its release. Cpo may also have had good reason to expect Hyperion to record the PCs...

Ilja

CPO tends to plan out its series in advance, and these apparently are good sellers, particularly within Germany. The fact that Hyperion might do the PCs would be likely to keep them from engaging in such a project themselves.

Gareth Vaughan

I expect they will include as fillers with the other symphonies the duo concertante for violin, piano & orchestra, the remaining two overtures (E minor and "Antony and Cleopatra") and possibly the March - provided these scores are extant. They may omit the Rossini Variations for piano and orchestra, the only remaining concertante work, apart from the E flat concerto, since Hyperion has already recorded that. Whether there would be room for the concerto, or if they are considering it, I don't know. The concerto apart, that would mean all Potter's orchestral music will have been recorded. Whoever would have thought it?

terry martyn

Have either of these been recorded before?

Gareth Vaughan


promusician

Quote from: Gareth Vaughan on Friday 18 July 2025, 14:53I expect they will include as fillers with the other symphonies the duo concertante for violin, piano & orchestra, the remaining two overtures (E minor and "Antony and Cleopatra") and possibly the March - provided these scores are extant. They may omit the Rossini Variations for piano and orchestra, the only remaining concertante work, apart from the E flat concerto, since Hyperion has already recorded that. Whether there would be room for the concerto, or if they are considering it, I don't know. The concerto apart, that would mean all Potter's orchestral music will have been recorded. Whoever would have thought it?

I have MS of overture in E minor and 'Antony and Cleopatra' from RPS archives, not sure these have ever been recorded..

eschiss1

It's hard to say "no" for certain, but at least I don't see any recordings . (I thought for years that a particular recording of a 1950s symphony was a world premiere only to find out that there was a rare LP of it made around the time of its composition - not impossibly rare, mind. That should have taught me that lesson.)
Also, is the overture to his cantata "Medora e Corrado" (copy held at RAM) on one of these two discs?

terry martyn

Just to clarify: I was referring to the two symphonies in this ,the third cpo volume.

I don't think either appears on the Milton Keynes coupling of the Nos "8" and "10".

Not so sure about whether or not one of them appeared as a coupling with a Sterndale Bennett symphony.

Will check further....

{EDIT} No,that was the one in F major

eschiss1

Couldn't find the overtures on YouTube or on recordings mentioned on the new location of COPAC, either.

terry martyn

My copy has arrived,and I reckon the music is of a higher standard than the symphonies contained in volume two - particularly the D major symphony,the finale of which I am itching to play again after finishing typing here.

eschiss1

BTW now I'm curious about that cantata! :)

Alan Howe

Quote from: terry martyn on Wednesday 06 August 2025, 10:45particularly the D major symphony

From the excerpts the D major Symphony would appear to be the more striking symphony on the CD. My copy's on its way...