Hi. Today I will upload Romanian symphony.
George Stephanescu (1843 - 1925)
Simfonia in La major (Orchestra Filarmonicii din Arad, dirijor Eliodor Rau)
It broadcasted yesterday
This is very romantic piece.
Enjoy it :D
A.S
Thanks, a very pretty work.
Thanks again for you powerful sharings !
Never heard of this roumanian composer.
Tony
Tony, I say thank you very much too.
I always enjoying your rare uploads.
Good news!
I found Kuzhamyarov's music mp3 from my collection.
It's contain Symphony no.3 and Sax concerto.
I listened it after a long absence.
These are very very Exotic works.
I will upload as soon as possible!
A.S
there's been some very good Romanian 20th century symphonism that I've heard (of course counting Enescu, but others too). And orchestral music (an LP of a work by Vieru at the university library here was coupled with a very attractive - I know I've mentioned this, apologies! - violin concerto by Capoianu. Liked that so much that I've yet to listen to the Vieru, alas.)
Many thanks for the Stephanescu symphony! I know nothing about this work or this composer. It sounds quite a lot like Spohr, but with sparks of its own personality.
Stephanescu (Stephănescu), George (other spellings probably) - 1843-1925 - brief bio here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Steph%C4%83nescu) - symphony in A (composed or published in 1869, so only 10 years after Spohr's death, and the general style was still current, I'd say...) recorded in 1973 and released on the Electrecord LP label (reissued on CD in 1990 ) by the Cluj-Napoca Philharmonic Orchestra, either Emil Simon or Paul Popescu conducting if it doesn't say in the other thread (haven't checked ... !) (a more recent CD, 2003, has a concert overture by the same composer according to Worldcat- perhaps the National Overture of 1882 listed in Wikipedia, perhaps something else?)
Many thanks for Castaldi, AS.
a performance of the Castaldi - probably a remaster of the 1960s LP of the work - was on a 2003 Bucharest (Ministerului Culturii secultelor din Fondul National Cultural) CD. (Along with recordings of works by Flechtenmacher, Stephanescu (overture), Caudella, and Alessandrescu's Acteon. The last-named's Sketch Autumn Dawn is occasionally re-broadcast over European Notturno/Radio 3 Through the Night - good stuff...
A fine piece, the Castaldi, thanks! :)
Just for information: it was written in 1907.
I see there is no English wikipedia entry, so here is 'my' google translation, slightly edited:
Alfonso Castaldi (born April 23 1874 in Maddalone; † 6 August 1942 in Bucharest, Romania) was an Italian composer, conductor and music educator.
Until 1883 Castaldi had lessons with Michele Picillo Serino and Luigi in his hometown and then studied at the Conservatory of Naples, harmony, counterpoint and composition with Paolo Serrao, Francesco Cilea and Umberto Giordano.
From 1896 to 1901 he taught music theory in Galati, mandolin, guitar and violin. From 1904 to 1940 he was professor at the Conservatory of Bucharest for harmony, counterpoint, orchestration and composition. In addition, from 1925 to 1929 he was inspector at the Ministry of Music.
Castaldi founded in 1914, the Youth Orchestra of Bucharest, in 1920 he was among the founding members of the Romanian Composers' Union. In 1928 he received the Music Prize of the Ministry of Religion and the Arts and in 1929 was awarded the National Prize for Music.
In addition, he also worked as a journalist and published a book of poems in 1892 in Naples. Finally, he was also a renowned landscape painter and portrait artist and member of the group led by Jean Alexandru Steriadi, Camil Ressu, Frederic Storck, Paul Verona, Ştefan Luchian, Ştefan Dimitrescu, Alexandru Szathmary, Iosif Iser and Oscar Hann.
Lyubomir Pipkov's First Symphony is an excellent work, and perhaps there's some confusion because a Romanian orchestra is performing in this recording. However, the conductor and composer are definitely Bulgarian, not Romanian.
Ooops! I confused it.
A true statement
Konstantin Iliev / Sofia Philharmonic Orchestra
Thank your notice.
A.S
Dear, Holger
Thank you very much to share music of Ion Dumitrescu.
I felt it is a nice piece , filled with Romanian folk music.
I'm looking forward to listen his music , broadcast at Romania radio in future.
Thanks (A.S)
There is a very interesting version of Enescu's Cello Sonata No.1 (first movement) that is used in the movie The Royal Tenenbaums. I didn't like the movie, but love the music! You can hear it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RCeQ0JwuJI
The notes say "op.26 Sonata For Cello & Piano In F Minor- Enescu, The Mutato Muzika Orchestra sound track from The Royal Tenenbaums movie an interesting adaptation of Enescu's Sonata for cello and piano in f minor by Mark Mothersbaugh".
The original version is also well worth listening to, in case you don't know it.
any evidence that the youtube recording isn't from one of the commercial recordings of the work, though (Spanoghe, Buruiana, Rust, that I can find offhand) ? :)
hi,
does someone know Pavel Constantinescu's Piano Concerto?
Andrea
Hi, Andrea
I don't know 'Pavel' Constantinescu.
I guess 'Pavel' equal 'Paul'
I have Paul Constantinescu's Piano Concerto.
This is live performance broadcast recording at 25.March.2011.
If you interest it, I can upload soon.
A.S
Sorry for the mistake, I had only an old score of the Toccata and didn't remember the correct spelling of the name.
Yes, if you can, i'd like to listen his PC, I have a Romanian friend who spoke me enthusiastically of it.
I thank you, Andrea
Andrea.
OK.
I must going office now.
I will upload it when I return home :D
A.S
Pavel is the Slavonic language equivalent of Paul. As far as the Romanian (a Romance language with strong Slavic inflections) equivalent of Paul is concerned, your guess is as good as mine.
Jim- exactly.
thankyou very much A. S.
you made me happy.
bye, Andrea
just listened the piano concerto, with great pleasure.
Again I thank you A. S.
Andrea
have you some recording of music by Marcel Mihalovici?
I know that often he is considered as a French composer, but I think in his music often the romanian character is clear.
I have conducted several years ago the Etude en deux partie pour Piano, brass, winds and percussion, a very interesting piece.
Have you notice of a recording of it? Maybe by Monique Haas, Mihalovici's wife.
Thank you, Andrea
About Romanians and for violin fans, on Youtube you've 26 short pieces played but great Gypsy virtuoso Grigoras Dinicu, a Flesch pupil and a fantastic violinist, playing some of his own and some "classical" pieces. After hearing him playing his "Hora Staccato", I find Heifetz's arrangement academic and fake. Add the IMO one of the best violin interpretations of a short piece ever done: Ginette Neveu's playing Scarlatescu Bagatelle. And last, one of the most beautiful romantic short works for violin and orchestra: Ballad by Ciprian Porumbescu (1853/83)
Haven't seen it, but the Mihalovici (1898-1985) Etude in two parts op.64 , his study op.80 and sonata op.90 were recorded by Erato in 1972, the sonata I think indeed recorded by his wife, according to Worldcat. The first two works were coupled with a work by André Jolivet in a Musical Heritage Society reissue. Other works have been recorded of Mihalovici's, including his sextet (a quartet, his 3rd op.52, with parts for voice and piano apparently?) - on Electrecord in the 1960s; his oboe sonatina, on CD fairly recently; a trumpet work on a Mark CD in 2003; his op.45 violin sonata on a DG LP some years back; etc. I do have a broadcast recording, I think- it may be from LP or CD instead- of the Porumbescu; it's quite good I agree.
(Reminds me that I heard a concert played live of works by... have to find a program. Solo works by - hrm. list of Romanian composers jogs a memory, it might have been Dumitrescu. Not sure. Back in 2005... in New York City... wonder if they've been recorded. Need to see, again, if I can find the program somewhere :) )
By the way, by Dimitrescu (sometimes referred to as Dimitresco for instance, which can help if one wants to find reviews of his work contemporaneously- which has its uses) I'd only seen before some of his string quartets (in score or parts). Thanks for uploading some of his concertante music!
Thanks, A.S., for the upload of Enescu's works, especially the completions of Symphonies 4 and 5!
have heard one or both of Bentoiu's Enescu symphonies (and, I think, Enescu symphonic poem completions by him or another- need to check) on the radio a couple of times- I don't think either's ever made a CD appearance. They're not even especially late works (compared to, say, odd - though really good, to my mind - Vox Maris and chamber symphony, etc.) - but are also really worth hearing, and I wish they would find a (hopefully new) performance and commercial release and whatnot (unlikely- Enescu still hasn't the name recognition of Elgar, Mahler or Bruckner- but... who knows. Not begrudging the completions of their works at all- very glad to have them- more, not less, please :) )
Yes, A.S. thanks for all of the Enescu - boy that fills in a gap in the old collection
Jerry
Ah, one other thing- I think I have several recordings conducted by Christian Badea- but of American modern music, not Romanian late-Romantic. And his recordings of the former are some of the best I know- he holds the threads together (indeed he and the orchestra are so unfazed by the mechanics- the rhythm, the orchestrational and other quirks...- they can concentrate on the content, with accordingly fine results; I wish he rather than the at-sea Dennis Russell Davies had recorded symphonies 6,7 and 9 by Roger Sessions for Argo, as Badea's recording of 4 and 5 has seemed to me one of those examples of how it should be done.)
Anyhow. Tangent (sort of; Enescu's writing in his mid-to-late chamber music especially but not only, is every bit as difficult to see forest-for-trees in, though tonal... while Badea is the conductor in the early symphony 1 only, I think he'd do well with the late orchestral music too. And my trouble with the 1st symphony has always been a feeling that it sprawls- and again, Badea has a talent for holding things together- if anyone can convince -me- of that work, I expect he can. Just saying :) )
Not sure I noticed it mentioned in your listing of Enescu symphonies, but according to what I think is the concert listing of the festival these concerts were from - here (http://www.festivalenescu.ro/index.php?id=3&L=1) -
*Marius Vlad Budoiu was the tenor in the Enescu 5th symphony on Sept.5
*"ACADEMIC CHOIR" OF THE ROMANIAN NATIONAL RADIO SOCIETY was the choir in the 3rd symphony's finale (I think only in the finale- need to listen to the symphony now. I used to have the Marco Polo recording I think and used to know the symphony.
If they rebroadcast them hope you will consider taping not only symphony 2 but Isis/Issis too (from September 3. though BBC Radio 3 sometimes broadcasts an older recording of that Bentoiu completion, will be good to hear this newer performance :) ).
Hope next festival they'll perform an Alfred Mendelsohn symphony again as in past years :) i do notice the Enescu early piano trio and one of the late piano quartets though (more familiar with the latter, which I've heard once on an Olympia CD and a number of times on Naxos... terrific stuff!)
Hi eschiss1,
thanks for your upload of Cuclin's Ninth. I might add it was composed in 1949, and also a note about the key: when I listened to the symphony I was surprised to hear C sharp Minor instead of A Minor. I thus did some research, and really, MGG (some kind of German New Grove) says the symphony is actually in C sharp Minor. By the way, from all I know this must really be a broadcast recording. Three of Cuclin's symphonies have been issued on LP: Nos. 11, 13&16. From those I have Nos. 11&13 but I miss No. 16.
Regards,
Holger
C-sharp minor? Thank you, need to correct that. I do need to mention by the way that my recording of Wellesz 2 in another folder is also in C-sharp minor (I haven't seen the score though I hope it will be republished soon... it is I am fairly sure in E-flat minor...), not because the work is, but because the tape is so bad it comes out about a whole-tone flat :( (not exactly of course- anyone with perfect pitch, which I do not have, should probably avoid that- sorry. :( )
Small point - the "Stefanescu" for those who like to get such things just right should be "Stefănescu" apparently...
As to Cuclin I've seen library catalog records of the recording of sym 16 in F major but haven't heard it either.
Andricu sym.4 opus 76- ah, this LP was coupled at one point with the sinfonietta no.12 op.119 (conducted by Petre Sbârcea), a work which has been broadcast over BBC Euroclassic Notturno/Euronotturno several times probably from the same compilation LP released in 1977.
No, my mistake- it's Andricu's sinfonietta no. 13, Elenescu conducting, that was broadcast e.g. in 2009... (and several times between 2005 and 2010.)
Looking forward to hearing the Mendelsohn/Rogalski file (an LP did indeed couple works of those, I see, though it was of chamber music.) I've only heard the Mendelsohn symphony once, awhile back, but I did like it. Haven't heard Rogalski at all just yet. Thanks!
(Wonder what Mendelsohn's symphonies 3 "Reconstruction"? and 8 are like...)
I am uploading a performance of Enescu's Symphony No.1 played by the French National Radio Orchestra conducted by the Rumanian conductor Mircea Cristescu: taken from French Radio.
I find it hard to believe that Toduta Sigismund has not yet been discussed in this forum, let alone as a great composer internationally.
Let's see if we can address that injustice.
As this article Wikipedia(translated) article will attest, he was someone of great importance, especially in his homeland. Is this reminiscent of Miaskovsky's plight?
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ro&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fro.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSigismund_Todu%25C8%259B%25C4%2583
I have these 2 pieces and they are remarkable..post Bartokian sounding but definitely not imitative and more lyrical..
Concerto no. 2 for String Orchestra
Concerto no. 4 for String Orchestra
here are some samples at his web home for listening:
http://www.sigismundtoduta.org/en/muzica_a_en.php
Oh! I forgot to upload Toduta!
I have recording of symphony no.1.
I will upload it in few days.
Atsushi, I suspect that the attractive Romanian Suite is by Constantin C. Nottara (http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantin_C._Nottara) (1890 - 1951 ), not his father Constantin I Nottara, who was an actor. The Suite dates from 1930.
Oh Yes. It's my mistook from web search! Thanks.
Ah, good to see some Negrea- I have the scherzo from his Spring Symphony somewhere or other, but haven't yet heard anything else. Thanks!
( ...
anything else by Negrea. :) )
Quote from: A.S on Sunday 04 December 2011, 08:55
Oh Yes. It's my mistook from web search! Thanks.
Thanks for the latest uploads, Atsushi! I especially like the Norrara. :)
Do you by any chance have a date for the Negrea work, please?
Quote from: semloh on Monday 05 December 2011, 01:35
Quote from: A.S on Sunday 04 December 2011, 08:55
Oh Yes. It's my mistook from web search! Thanks.
Thanks for the latest uploads, Atsushi! I especially like the Norrara. :)
Do you by any chance have a date for the Negrea work, please?
Hi, I'm glad to hear you enjoyed these :D
Maybe, Negrea's work was composed at 1952.
According to Romania wikpedia, It seems that original version of this suite is film music.
http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar%C8%9Bian_Negrea (http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar%C8%9Bian_Negrea)
Quote from: A.S on Friday 02 December 2011, 07:39
Oh! I forgot to upload Toduta!
I have recording of symphony no.1.
I will upload it in few days.
Thank you so much for the Toduta 1, I can't wait to hear it!
BTW:Would you happen to have Raychev symphonies 1 and 3? He wrote 6 in total.
I know he is Bulgarian, but I thought I'd ask here..
Marvelous composer, you can hear his 2nd here:
BTW:I do not think this is the recent release as the track timings is different..
http://classical-music-online.net/en/composer/Raychev/7190
Hello JollyRoger,
Yes. I have symphony no.3 by Raychev.
I will upload it soon ;)
Sym 3? I've already uploaded a recording of it, though if it's a question of uploading a different one...
Quote from: eschiss1 on Wednesday 07 December 2011, 09:59
Sym 3? I've already uploaded a recording of it ...............
And most enjoyable it is, too, Eric! :)
Ooh! I uploaded same recording of you, Eric. :-[ thanks...
Quote from: A.S on Wednesday 07 December 2011, 09:46
Hello JollyRoger,
Yes. I have symphony no.3 by Raychev.
I will upload it soon ;)
A.S
I note that Eric Schissel has already posted Raichev's Symphony 3 at his thread for Bulgarian Symphonists.
Sorry for the confusion, it is Raychev 1 and 5 that I seek and I will do so at Bulgarian Symphonists. I think Raychev is an extremely very gifted composer.
Thanks so much for your response..
Will listen to the Capoianu soon; I've only heard one work of his- his violin concerto - but it was very good.
Thank you! Thank you! The wonderful Byzantine Oratorio by Constantinecu has long been one of my favorite pieces of music and to see a listing of a new version performed LAST NIGHT was almost cause for a heart attack. I have just discovered this site and am a bit of a neophyte on the computer so have to find someone to show me how to burn some of these. I have gotten so many things I never dreamed existed much less that I would hear someday like the Enescu 4th, 5th and SOOOO many other works. You have made me extremely happy and this counters the several cancer surgeries and others which I have had this past few years. I am as excited now as I was in the late 60's and throughtout the 70's up to now, still loving serious music. What a wonderful Xmas present from UNSUNG COMPOSERS!!!!! Mal
I think you speak for a lot of us, Malito: discovering this site has been absolutely amazing for me too!
Hi malito, I'm happy to hear your post ;)
Also I got many many rare recordings from UC in this year.
I would like to express my deepest gratitude to all members. :D
I will upload another work by Romanian composer Paul Richter. His Symphony No.5 is a real beauty and never fails to delight. You can find it a little later in the music folder.
Oh Thanks a lot!
I'm looking forward to Symphony by Richter! :D
fr8nks, thanks for sharing this further Richter symphony. It's good to get to know more by this composer. As information on Richter is somewhat spare, I want to add some details: it's his Symphony No. 5 in D Major, Op. 106, and it was composed in 1936.
I saw there seems to be an organ transcription of his Symphony No. 2 on YouTube but I haven't listened to it so far. The fact it only takes 15 minutes makes me wonder whether this is really the full symphony, however.
Thanks for you comments. I have 3 more works by Paul Richter that I will upload later today:
Symphony No.3
Suite No.2 "Carpathian"
Variations for Piano and Orchestra.
I have recordings of the Third Symphony and the Carpathian Suite, but I still don't know the Variations, so I'm looking forward to your upload.
By the way, though it's off-topic here: I saw you also uploaded some music by Jaroslav Řídký recently. While I have the Cello Concerto LP myself, I downloaded the Overture. Doing some research, I saw the Overture LP also seems to contain his (full) Serenade Op. 37, of which there is only one movement on the Cello Concerto LP. Is it possible for you to upload the full serenade as well? That would be greatly appreciated.
Holger, I will upload the Ridky Serenade within the hour. It will appear in the Czech Folder.
Could I just add-in the spirit of Christmas Good Cheer-that, having almost entirely restricted my involvement to date to uploading (mainly British) music and to downloading British, American, French, German and Scandinavian music it is now a wonderful treat to be able to turn to all the treasures which, I know, are contained in the Russian, Polish, Czech, Rumanian, Japanese and other Download sections :) :)
This is a post-Christmas treat I have been saving up for myself ;D ;D ;D
fr8nks, thanks for your recent uploads. I am glad to have Richter's Variations and also the Řídký Serenade now - great you fulfilled my request that quickly.
Are the Variations for piano and orchestra of Richter his opus 121? I have a cassette of that but it says that it was composed in 1924 and I'm wondering if that is an error??
Jerry
Jerry, It is Richter's opus 121 and I can't confirm either date. I made an entry in my records that it was 1943. Please let me know if you can verify either date.
If Richter's Opus Numbers make any sense then 1943 will be more reasonable. Actually, 1943 is what the New Grove entry on Richter says as well. The key of this piece is A Minor, by the way.
Thanks, Holger.
If anybody has some movement titles for Richter's 5th, I'd mightily appreciate it. Now THAT is one DAMN fine symphony!
Fr8nks, are you sure about the movements of Richter S 3? Two Andante molto moderatos in a row? Mayhap the 1st movement is Allegro molto moderato?
I'm inclinded to agree on the 1943 date. 1924 would be pretty early for an opus 121. Perhaps I was originally told 1942 and did a switcheroo. Which still wouldn't have been correct. Thanks for the help.
Jerry
JimL, I received the information from Latvian several years ago. I will ask him to check it.
By the way, Worldcat seems to give the symphony no.3 the opus number 62 (from a record of the same LP conducted by Galati) but I may be misunderstanding. Parts and perhaps score for symphony 5 in D were published a few years ago so movement titles are "hypothetically" available (I think a Leipzig library has them. Karlsruhe: Frieder Latzina has been publishing/republishing a whole load of this composer's music.)
The information about movement titles for Richter's Third and the Carpathian Suite exactly corresponds to what is written on the LP in question, and yes, there are two Andante molto moderatos. I think this could well make sense because if you listen to the first movement the initial tempo is rather slow - which changes later but this wouldn't be the first LP / CD on which they only state the first tempo marking.
In terms of keeping the catalogue precise, here are the data on all the Richter pieces which were uploaded here as far as I could find them out:
Symphony No. 3 in G Minor, Op. 62 (1925) (not 1935)
Symphony No. 5 in D Major, Op. 106 (1936)
Suite for Orchestra No. 2 in F Major Op. 85 "Carpathian" (1923)
Concerto for Piano and Orchestra in B Minor, Op. 58 (1918-20)
Variations for Piano and Orchestra in A Minor, Op. 121 (1943)
In case of the Suite, opus number and date of composition really show some differences but that's all right as I think, all sources state the same in this case. As I said New Grove says the Variations were composed in 1943 and this makes sense in my view. I wanted to check the MGG (the German equivalent of New Grove) article in addition but in fact, there is no MGG article about Richter. This is somewhat astonishing as Richter is actually a German composer (member of the German minority in Romania).
Thanks for your help, Holger. I've added the opus numbers and corrected the date. Thanks to all of you for the favorable comments on Symphony No.5. The Otaka Cello Concerto that I posted in the Japanese folder is equally enjoyable.
Quote from: Holger on Wednesday 28 December 2011, 07:47
The information about movement titles for Richter's Third and the Carpathian Suite exactly corresponds to what is written on the LP in question, and yes, there are two Andante molto moderatos. I think this could well make sense because if you listen to the first movement the initial tempo is rather slow - which changes later but this wouldn't be the first LP / CD on which they only state the first tempo marking.
Haven't downloaded this one yet, but you're probably right. It may be just the slow introduction to the main body of the first movement, and, as you've noted, they didn't give the tempo of the rest of the movement.
John Dracula from Romania? Wow! Gotta love it!
Re Paul Richter (Romanian composer but I can't find the download details on him)
This brief note might be in the wrong place - apologies if that is so.
Hard to find any details on him but I came across the following link. Not much. but something is better than nothing. If anyone has a link for other details, that would be appreciated.
Best wishes
Richard
http://en.romania-muzical.ro/articole/art.shtml?c=19&g=2&arh=1&y=2011&a=108671
Regarding Richter, there are also the following two links:
http://www.suedost-musik.de/html/lexikon/Richter.html
http://www.honterusgemeinde.ro/kirchenmusik/persoenlichkeiten/ (scroll down)
However, both are in German.
In addition, there is a New Grove article on him. In any case, he is a pretty obscure composer today - which he has in common with Waldemar von Baußnern, another composer who belonged to the German minority in Romania (I uploaded his Symphony No. 7 a while ago).
Arbuckle, Thanks a lot for uploading many Romanian works. :D
Yes, I also love Romanian composers.
I'm always enjoying Romanian radio broadcasting. Interesting works indeed :) Atsushi
Arbuckle, Thanks again for your upload.
I listened Alexandru Pascanu's music today. Especially, his symphonic poem is very interesting work.
I uploaded his "Poemul Carpatilor" last month. I surprised about this late romantic style work.
Anyway, thanks a lot!
Do we have movment titles for Richter 5? Can I get them someplace?
In re WP Richter symphony 5 --- It's been (re?)published recently - 2003 - (by an outfit, MusikNoten-Verlag Latzina of Karlsruhe, that's taken an interest in much of his work, would seem; I like it when publishers and editors do that... it's not easy!) and the score is, I think, at Munich Library if I recall. That is all I know at present... (I know you were not asking me specifically but was just putting in my 2 small unit coins!)
I should go see if MusikNoten-Verlag Latzina has a website, actually. On occasion though not always more information is to be found there...
(Computer problem vanished with even less explanation than accompanied it. ... fortunately. Anyhow.)
Website Here (http://www.musiknotenverlag.de/). They specialize in Transylvanian composers. (Hrm, apparently 16 works by Paul or P. Richter show up, between orchestral and chamber works.)
Also, if I haven't said (or if I have, but I don't think I noticed before), thanks for posting the Capoianu violin concerto, a work I've heard a few times on a library LP (and kept meaning to hear again.)
Atsushi - thank you for the latest generous swag of Romanian music - all really obscure (to me at least) and truly "hot off the press"! All the effort involved is greatly appreciated.
:) :)
Thanks, indeed, Atsushi - more excitement ahead!
It's my pleasure ;)
I'm also enjoying Romania radio broadcast everyday. Their archive is truly great!
Indeed, thanks Atsushi :)
What a collection of Rumanian music is now on this site ;D
(Is the Constantin Dimitrescu Cello Concerto No.2 the same Cello Concerto in the same performance which you previously uploaded on 15th September?
You referred then to the work being broadcast on 7th September but the new upload is a broadcast from 10th November. A re-broadcast possibly?)
OH ! Yes, both are same music! I misunderstood it. :-[
Anyway, Thanks for your notice , Colin :)
The Capoianu & A Mendelssohn Violin Concerto uploads seem to have disappeared. Can these be restored by whomever originally posted them?
Pascal Bentoiu : Piano Concerto # 1
I've just uploaded his first piano concerto:
(http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/27660879/Pascal+Bentoiu+pascalbentoiu.jpg)
More about Bentoui from Wikipedia:
Pascal Bentoiu (1927) is a Romanian Modernist composer.
Bentoiu studied harmony, counterpoint and composition with Mihail Jora and piano with Theophil Demetriescu. He spent three years researching the rhythm and harmony of Romanian folk music at the Bucharest Folklore Institute and then began composing for the stage. His operas are written with dramatic flair and make use of a variety of elements, including folksong, tape, serialism and diatonic qualities. His instrumental and orchestral works also contain a variety of contemporary techniques, and Bentoiu's work is characterized by its color and lyricism.
I think a piece by Bentoiu or a couple by one or two of his students was or were in a concert I attended some years back in Manhattan (and of course Bentoiu edited into shape those terrific-in-my-opinion symphonies and symphonic poems Enescu didn't quite finish - nos. 4 and 5, Isis, for example... the funeral march from the 5th symphony is particularly impressive and one is glad to be able to hear it.)
Atsushi - thank you for the latest Romanian downloads. I especially like the Concerto Grosso by LAZĂR - full of rhythmic twists and turns, and most enjoyable, and the Piano Concerto of DRĂGOI is melodious and relaxing after a busy day. Much appreciated.
And, they're all 'hot off the press' (radio rather!) :) :)
Hello! I listened Piano Concerto of DRĂGOI at lunch time in office yesterday and today.
It helps to my head cool down and relaxing after busy work. I felt this work is a 'Concerto of Songs' . Many warm and tender melodies in this music. :)
I can post the Second Symphony with Kocsis.
Quote from: A.S on Thursday 22 September 2011, 13:07
Dear members
All's are from live broadcast recording from G.Enescu Festival 2011.
These concerts are include his unfinished symphony no.4 and no.5 (arrangement by Pascal Bentoiu)
But Sorry, I missed to recording concert of symphony no.2.
If anyone who record this concert, Please be complete!
Symphony no. 1 in E flat Major op. 13
Conductor : CHRISTIAN BADEA
RESIDENTIE ORKEST / The Hague Philharmonic
1.Sep.2011 Grand Palace Hall, Bucureşti
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?xfuxsq7hvp1l82x (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?xfuxsq7hvp1l82x)
Symphony no. 3 with choir in C Major op. 21
Conductor : VALERY GERGIEV
THE MARIINSKY THEATRE SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA
12.Sep.2011 Grand Palace Hall, Bucureşti
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?h35255e77jke830 (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?h35255e77jke830)
Symphony no. 4 in e minor (arrangement by Pascal Bentoiu - after composer's notes)
Conductor : JOHN AXELROD
"TRANSILVANIA" STATE PHILHARMONIC - CLUJ
6.Sep.2011 "Mihail Jora" Hall of the Romanian Radio Society
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?94f2b1l5ztjdf23 (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?94f2b1l5ztjdf23)
Symphony no. 5 in D Major (arrangement by Pascal Bentoiu - after composer's notes)
Conductor : PETER RUZICKA
"BANATUL" PHILHARMONIC ORCHESTRA FROM TIMIŞOARA
CHOIR OF THE ARAD PHILHARMONIC
7.Sep.2011 The Romanian Atheneum
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?f6wt1930rq4li62 (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?f6wt1930rq4li62)
Symphonic poem "Vox Maris" op. 31
Conductor : GENADDY ROZHDESTVENSKY
CHOIR and ORCHESTRA OF THE "GEORGE ENESCU" PHILHARMONIC
10.Sep.2011 Grand Palace Hall, Bucureşti
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?3269r642x2nhzx0 (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?3269r642x2nhzx0)
All's are recording from Romanian radio broadcast
A.S
[Jacky: you must post replies like this in the appropriate thread in the Discussion board here, NOT in the Downloads board, which is only for posts and replies which have download links. Mark]
This work is very important in the history of Romania's musical history,being the very first one written by a Romanian Composer.
Quote from: eschiss1 on Thursday 14 July 2011, 03:47
Stephanescu (Stephănescu), George (other spellings probably) - 1843-1925 - brief bio here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Steph%C4%83nescu) - symphony in A (composed or published in 1869, so only 10 years after Spohr's death, and the general style was still current, I'd say...) recorded in 1973 and released on the Electrecord LP label (reissued on CD in 1990 ) by the Cluj-Napoca Philharmonic Orchestra, either Emil Simon or Paul Popescu conducting if it doesn't say in the other thread (haven't checked ... !) (a more recent CD, 2003, has a concert overture by the same composer according to Worldcat- perhaps the National Overture of 1882 listed in Wikipedia, perhaps something else?)
Quote from: Jacky on Sunday 12 February 2012, 14:38
I can post the Second Symphony with Kocsis.
Quote from: A.S on Thursday 22 September 2011, 13:07
Dear members
All's are from live broadcast recording from G.Enescu Festival 2011.
These concerts are include his unfinished symphony no.4 and no.5 (arrangement by Pascal Bentoiu)
But Sorry, I missed to recording concert of symphony no.2.
If anyone who record this concert, Please be complete!
Symphony no. 1 in E flat Major op. 13
Conductor : CHRISTIAN BADEA
RESIDENTIE ORKEST / The Hague Philharmonic
1.Sep.2011 Grand Palace Hall, Bucureşti
Symphony no. 3 with choir in C Major op. 21
Conductor : VALERY GERGIEV
THE MARIINSKY THEATRE SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA
12.Sep.2011 Grand Palace Hall, Bucureşti
Symphony no. 4 in e minor (arrangement by Pascal Bentoiu - after composer's notes)
Conductor : JOHN AXELROD
"TRANSILVANIA" STATE PHILHARMONIC - CLUJ
6.Sep.2011 "Mihail Jora" Hall of the Romanian Radio Society
Symphony no. 5 in D Major (arrangement by Pascal Bentoiu - after composer's notes)
Conductor : PETER RUZICKA
"BANATUL" PHILHARMONIC ORCHESTRA FROM TIMIŞOARA
CHOIR OF THE ARAD PHILHARMONIC
7.Sep.2011 The Romanian Atheneum
Symphonic poem "Vox Maris" op. 31
Conductor : GENADDY ROZHDESTVENSKY
CHOIR and ORCHESTRA OF THE "GEORGE ENESCU" PHILHARMONIC
10.Sep.2011 Grand Palace Hall, Bucureşti
All's are recording from Romanian radio broadcast
A.S
[Jacky: you must post replies like this in the appropriate thread in the Discussion board here, NOT in the Downloads board, which is only for posts and replies which have download links. Mark]
But it's important to remove the downloads links first! ;)
Hello to all of you!
Due to the kind recommandation of one of this forum's members,I joined today unsungcomposers.
I am from Romania, and I enjoyed a lot the romanian shares here.
I can also contribute to some extent here,with Romanian Music but not only.
I have some questions:
-contemporary composers can be shared here?
-what kind of recordings-OOP,never on CD,in house,private or also hard to find?
-what format-lossy or not
-what server is prefered.
As I know very well this music,you can ask me questions about this topic.
J
I tried to download several times but stops. :-\
Can you help somehow?
J
Quote from: A.S on Thursday 15 December 2011, 13:49
Zeno Vancea (1900-1990) : Requiem (1941)
http://www.mediafire.com/?p6onft7kuhpwjs1 (http://www.mediafire.com/?p6onft7kuhpwjs1)
Daniela Păcurar : soprano
Maria Pop : alto
Ovidius Şiclovan : tenor
Cristian Hodrea : bariton
Orchestra Simfonică şi Corul Filarmonicii "Transilvania"
Conductor : Nicolae Moldoveanu
Concert performance at 15.Apr.2011
Romania radio broadcast 14.Dec.2011
I tried to download this severl times and stopped.Can you pls check the link?
Quote from: Sicmu on Saturday 29 October 2011, 16:56
DRAGOS ALEXANDRESCU (b. 1924)
Symphony in A minor "Dobrogea" (1954)
Horia Andreescu
Ploeşti Philharmonic Symphony Orchestra
ELECTRECORD ST-ECE 03333 (LP) (c. 1980)
MP3 320 kbps + scan :
http://www.mediafire.com/?8mgqm5421nm31ml (http://www.mediafire.com/?8mgqm5421nm31ml)
Welcome Jacky!
To answer some of your questions:
Yes, contemporary composers' music can be shared here, but primarily tonal music written in the romantic or broadly romantic tradition of the 19th and 20th centuries. We do not permit recordings which have been published on CD to be shared here. So, if it is from an out of print CD you cannot share it here. Commercially available downloaded tracks cannot be shared. The format is up to you. Most people here use MediaFire for online storage, but that is not mandatory.
Finally, you'll see that I have moved some of your posts and merged your Romanian thread with this one. The posts were moved because the Downloads board is only for download links, all discussion and replies which don't have new links should be in this board. The thread was merged because there was no point in having two Romanian threads in the same baord.
Hope I am doing this right
I am uploaded the Second Symphony
J
A word about jowcol's newest upload in the Romanian section.
The composer is Nicolae Brânzeu (1907–1983). Here is the Romanian wikipedia entry:
http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolae_Br%C3%A2nzeu (http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolae_Br%C3%A2nzeu)
According to this article, the work which has been uploaded is his Symphony No. 2 in D "For Peace" with female choir in the final movement. It dates from 1963. The conductor is most likely to be Nicolae Boboc.
This is also in accordance with Mike Herman's list, which additionally lists the Arad Philharmonic Female Choir as performers
NICOLAI BRÂNZEU
(1907-1983, ROMANIAN)
Born in Piteşti. He studied music locally as a youth and then at the Bucharest Conservatory. He completed his musical education at the Schola Cantorum in Paris where he studyied composition with Guy de Lioncourt. In addition to composing, he worked as chorus master and conductor at the Romanian Opera in Bucharest and was a professor of music and conductor at the Arad State Philharmonic. He composed operas, orchestral, chamber, instrumental, choral and vocal works.His other Symphonies are: Nos. 1 (1954) and 3 in C minor (1977).
Symphony No.2 in D major for Female Chorus and Orchestra "For Peace" (1963)
Nicolae Boboc/Arad Philharmonic Female Chorus/Arad Philharmonic Symphony Orchestra
ELECTRECORD ST-ECE 03165 (LP) (1984)
http://www.musicweb-international.com/Balkan_discography/ECE_Balkan_Symphonies1.htm#BRANZEU
Thanks again to the dynamic duo of Holger and Semloh!
I'll update the download page, and I'm also collecting these corrections and sending them back to Karl, who has appreciated the additional info he's received so far.
Branzeu was also a member of the Iron guard-a fascist party in Romania during 1930-1940,guily of killing thousands of jews during WW2 and friend of Cioran,eliade and Cuclin
Quote from: Jacky on Monday 13 February 2012, 20:39
Branzeu was also a member of the Iron guard-a fascist party in Romania during 1930-1940,guily of killing thousands of jews during WW2 and friend of Cioran,eliade and Cuclin
Jacky, that is especially interesting to me.
Can you give a reference or other indication of the source. please?
Well,I can't name a certain source.It's known that some of Romania's greatest composers-Paul Constantinescu,Zeno Vancea,Sabin Dragoi,Nicolae Branzeu,ionel Perlea, were members or only admirers of this Iron Guard.In which measure they remained as such after the crimes their members commited I don't know.But,for sure,they adhered to the nationalist,extreme right,antisemitic ideology.It is relly strange to hear that about Paul Constantinescu, born Paul Cohn and baptised.As long this ideology doesn't find place in the music,I really don't care so much,although for me this is not mere a footnote in their biography.
Thanks, Jacky; this is all new to me.
I've been unable to track anything down during a quick web search, and a quick scan through my books. I suppose the evidence, such as it may be, will not be in English and will not be on the web. I dare say that Romanian authorities wouldn't want such an affiliation to tarnish any of its musical icons!
Jacky, Thank you very much for second symphony by Enescu. Completed symphony cycle of G.Enescu festival 2011 :)
My pleasure.I couldn't record the Dixtuor for winds (with the Sabine Meyer wind ansamble) and the Octet (with Kremerata Baltica).I was in the concert hall and I don't know about any other broadcastings. :)
I am going to upload works by the Romanian composer Stefan Niculescu (1927-2008).He is considered a member of the "golden generation" a kind of "mighty five" of the Romanian music.They had to fight with everything:the crushing shadow of Enescu,the isolation from the West,the policy of the Communist Party.There was nothing like the Polish avanguard here .This generation took another path of the avanguard,based on modes-rooted in the traditional music-and heterophony.Then, like in the USSR,everything came suddenly:atonality,serialism,improvisation...
The recordings I share here-coming from digitalised Romanian LP's and Radio Romania archives, encompass 40 years of music from Symphonies for 15 soloists from 1963 to the Requiem from 2006.
Niculescu's style shifted in the last years and he became more and more involved in absorbing the Eastern Church's music into the mould of his music.It's nothing like Part,Taverner or Penderecki-the music remains the same uncompromising,abstract and dissonant but enriched with a spiritual dimension.His last work was Pomenire (in Romanian Ceremony for the Departed) a Romanian Requiem for bass solo,organ,chorus and large orchestra.The music shares some similarities with Zeno Vancea's Requiem shared here.The title-Romanian Requiem remindes us Brahms.The text comes from the New Testament,and the Orthodox burying prayers.I hope this kind of music will be appreciated by some of you.
I can't seem to download the Branzeu symphony. Nothing happens. Help! Malito
Quote from: malito on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 23:10
I can't seem to download the Branzeu symphony. Nothing happens. Help! Malito
I just clicked on teh line that said "here" and had not trouble. I will also past the link in the downloads so you can cut and paste in your browser.
Quote from: Jacky on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 22:58
I am going to upload works by the Romanian composer Stefan Niculescu (1927-2008).He is considered a member of the "golden generation" a kind of "mighty five" of the Romanian music.They had to fight with everything:the crushing shadow of Enescu,the isolation from the West,the policy of the Communist Party.There was nothing like the Polish avanguard here .This generation took another path of the avanguard,based on modes-rooted in the traditional music-and heterophony.Then, like in the USSR,everything came suddenly:atonality,serialism,improvisation...
The recordings I share here-coming from digitalised Romanian LP's and Radio Romania archives, encompass 40 years of music from Symphonies for 15 soloists from 1963 to the Requiem from 2006.
Niculescu's style shifted in the last years and he became more and more involved in absorbing the Eastern Church's music into the mould of his music.It's nothing like Part,Taverner or Penderecki-the music remains the same uncompromising,abstract and dissonant but enriched with a spiritual dimension.His last work was Pomenire (in Romanian Ceremony for the Departed) a Romanian Requiem for bass solo,organ,chorus and large orchestra.The music shares some similarities with Zeno Vancea's Requiem shared here.The title-Romanian Requiem remindes us Brahms.The text comes from the New Testament,and the Orthodox burying prayers.I hope this kind of music will be appreciated by some of you.
I am a devotee of Romanian music, you mentioned "The Mighty Five", I'm interested in knowing who they might be..
Are they Vladigerov, Raychev, Constantinescu,Cuclin and Enescu? I would have included Vieru, but I have not heard any of his music that I wish to hear again.
Vladigerov and Raichev are Bulgarians. Of the Romanians I would include Constantinescu.
Quote from: malito on Wednesday 22 February 2012, 23:51
Vladigerov and Raichev are Bulgarians. Of the Romanians I would include Constantinescu.
Yes, you are correct..sorry I tend to mix the two nationalities
Romanians tend to have a lot of their names end with "cu". The language is a Romance language, related more closely to French, Italian and Spanish. Bulgarian is a Slavic language, so you get a lot of "ev" "sky" and "ov" name endings. It's very close to Russian.
There are some exceptions, and Latvian from UC is more of an authority than I am, but a Latvian male's first and last names both end with an "s". Some examples would be Janis Ivanovs, Jazeps Vitols, Jazeps Medins, Imants Kalnins, Romualds Kalsons and Peteris Vasks all of whose music can be found here. A woman's name in Latvia begins and ends with an "e".
Ok.The mighty five are Niculescu,Vieru,Olah,Stroe and Marbe.They all are born between 1926-1932 and died between 1998-2008.As I said,they represent the generation which comes after Enescu,Constantinescu,Dragoi,Cuclin.One might say that also Bentoiu is in this generation-he is born in 1927 and still alive,but his musical trajectory was somehow different and the results less amazing then of those I mentioned.As I didn't recieve any reaction about my upload,I didn't know exactly if Niculescu's music was of some interest-I am new here,and the large majority of music offered here is rather tonal,therefore I thought it might not be on the UC members taste.I have in my vaults music of Vieru-I had the happy opportunity that my parents befriended his family,therefore I have a bulk of private recordings which I would like to share.I hope to do so today or tomorrow.
Regarding Romanian names,this is rather a mixed nation with very different influences.The typicall name ends with "escu".
Quote from: Jacky on Thursday 23 February 2012, 11:31
Ok.The mighty five are Niculescu,Vieru,Olah,Stroe and Marbe.They all are born between 1926-1932 and died between 1998-2008.As I said,they represent the generation which comes after Enescu,Constantinescu,Dragoi,Cuclin.One might say that also Bentoiu is in this generation-he is born in 1927 and still alive,but his musical trajectory was somehow different and the results less amazing then of those I mentioned.As I didn't recieve any reaction about my upload,I didn't know exactly if Niculescu's music was of some interest-I am new here,and the large majority of music offered here is rather tonal,therefore I thought it might not be on the UC members taste.I have in my vaults music of Vieru-I had the happy opportunity that my parents befriended his family,therefore I have a bulk of private recordings which I would like to share.I hope to do so today or tomorrow.
Regarding Romanian names,this is rather a mixed nation with very different influences.The typicall name ends with "escu".
You mention that you had not had any reaction to your uploads of some pieces by Stefan Niculescu.
I shall be honest in saying that I download any and all orchestral music from the 20th century uploaded by members of this site ;D This is in the hope (still not realised ;D ;D) that I shall somehow find time to listen to it all :) I tend to dip into certain pieces that I am not quite sure about to sample the music.
In a tiny handful of cases(less than ten out of hundreds and hundreds) I have deleted these downloads because I found the music too advanced for my tastes :(
The music of Stefan Niculescu you uploaded is still awaiting my final decision. I think that I shall probably keep the Symphony No.5 "Litanies", which is written in an idiom which I find difficult to like but which I can just about handle, and the "Pomenire" Requiem, which is the most appealing to me of the Niculescu works, but delete the others, which I don't care for.
The Vieru Flute Concerto which is, I think, the only Vieru on here would suggest that more of his music
would be interesting to hear :)
You're right.There is a lot of interesting music here,and I downloaded a small part of it-mainly the things which I might find interesting.
I am downloading some Vieru music.All the recordings come from CD's recieved by me from the composer's family.These are not,of course,commercial recordings,and the CD medium was choosen to archivate their private recordings.I think that is a very interesting and nice music,not intended for a quick listen.Hope that you all will enjoy this great unsung composer. :)
Yes, please let us hear more Vieru when you can :)
The Niculescu Requiem is written in a modern idiom but is still an impressive-sounding piece :)
Thanks, Jacky, for the further Vieru uploads :)
You certainly make very high claims for the Cello Concerto No.1 ;D so that one will make especially interesting listening :)
I do like very much what I am hearing of the Symphony No.7 :) Do you have recordings of any of the other symphonies ???
Yes the cello concerto is exceptional,at the same level with Lutoslawsky,Dutillieux,Schnittke.
I wanted to give some homework:Olympia issued Symphonies 2,3,4,5,the double concerto for violin,cello and orchestra and Psalm 1993.The last three are masterpieces.I will soon upload other Vieru items-among them the sixth symphony "Exodus" .
Jacky, Thank you for the Vieru orchestral works you have uploaded. I look forward to more symphonies and concertos of his as I am primarily a symphony and concerto collector. Malito
I continue my series devoted to unsung romanian composers -are there sung romanian composers?- :o with an unsung contemporary composer:Serban Nichifor.His music is nearer of those by Killar or Preisner so I recommend it to all the members to this forum,not only the adventurous ones.
Nichifor,born 1954,is really unsung.I can't point out the reasons-the fact that his music is very accesible,sometimes shifting to kitschy and saccharine,might be a reason.The "establishment" in what concerns contemporary music in Romania preffers more difficult and complicated music, music played only in festivals and attended by the "establishment" musicians but next to zero earnest music lover.Of course there are real values in today's music here-like Doina Rotaru-but this is an exception.The human quality of composers like Vieru,Niculescu and Stroe died with them.
I must appologize for the lossy quality of the recordings-digitalised personal LP's and Romanian Radio archives.It is very difficult to find recordings of this music.
I will post here three symphonies (Mal,that's for you ;D),the Requiem (so already the third Romanian Requiem here on UC) and some other works.As usual,insights in a word document attached.Recommanded for all the romantic,post romantic,neoromantic ::) music lovers.
Multumesc foarte bine, Jacky! Mal
Quote from: Jacky on Thursday 01 March 2012, 14:23
are there sung romanian composers?
Obviously Enescu is the most sung, though granted he's close to a 'one hit wonder'. Dinicu and Ivanovici would both fulfill the 'one hit wonder' tag even more, though
QuoteObviously Enescu is the most sung, though granted he's close to a 'one hit wonder'. Dinicu and Ivanovici would both fulfill the 'one hit wonder' tag even more, though
Enescu's first Rhapsody,doesn't make Enescu a sung composer.His artistic output is virtually unsung-i.e the orchestral or chamber music.As for Dinicu and Ivanovici these are not composers-Dinicu was a gipsy violonist and Ivanovici the conductor of a military brass band.
Thanks very much to Jacky for the large collection of music by Serban Nichifor :)
Looking forward to hearing this composer based on the introductory remarks :) Could I add too that it is extremely helpful to have your written Insights into the composer's music :) This helps a huge amount with music with which people will be totally unfamiliar. Thank you for these too :) :)
Symphony No.4 by the way was released on a Olympia CD 417 with the violin concerto by Paul Constantinescu...
I didn't know.I have my old LP.I have to delete it,I think. >:(
OK I changed the download link.It will appear after the OK from the moderator ???
Jacky: Thanks a lot for so many Nichifor compositions.
Many years ago I became a fan of his Symphony No. 4 (West to East) after listening to it on the radio.
I'm glad to become re-acquainted with it plus getting to know so many other works of this terrific composer.
Some say that he is terrible-the same "establishment" ditto.About Liana Alexandra (1947-2011) aka MRS Nichifor they have the same opinion.Next week you'll listen to her music, too. ::)
His music is sometimes kitschy like a blockbuster soundtrack, but othertimes is really good-listen to his Second Symphony or some parts of the Requiem.
The Nichifor Symphony No.2 and the Requiem are most certainly really delightful, romantic works :)
Sad-but not unexpected-that the musical establishment should despise such music :(
Jacky,
I used to correspond with Liana Alexandra often via e-mail. Actually, I sent her a package of things I had gotten her in Mexico (my second home) for her birthday about 5 years ago. There was a time that she and her husband were going to come and visit us in Arizona. Her music is excellent, too, and she sent me CDs of her 4th, 6th and 7th symphonies as well as a children's opera. I love her music a lot and I like Nichifor's 1st and 2nd symphony. But, as I told you already I am a big fan of everything Romanian. Mal
I was just listening to Dinu LIPATTI's Satrarii – symphonic suite - available courtesy of Atsushi. Like other pieces by Lipatti, it is enjoyable but strange - quirky themes, odd changes of pace and an unsettling mix of styles! Listening to a Lipatti composition is always an adventure.
Thanks, Atsushi :)
Quote from: Bill Hayden on Monday 05 March 2012, 01:04
May anyone upload again Alexandru Velehorschi/Popa concertos? It doesn't work
::)
The advantage of downloading almost everything is that there are backup files ;D
I am happy to oblige. The links will be posted in the Rumanian Music Downloads folder :)
A portrait of Serban Nichifor
link set to private.
Colin, do you by any chance have dates for the compositions by Alexandru Velehorschi which you kindly uploaded? The only information I have is that he was born in 1918. :)
What I know is that Velehorschi died in 1997 and that the Piano Concerto was composed somewhere between in 1950 and 1960.
I couldn't find any information about the two composers even in the Romanian pages. :o
The 3 recordings have an historical importance more then a musical one:pianist Maria Fotino was a great but unknown pianist -a portrait was issued on Pearl Pearl GEM 0223.The conductor Rogalski was one of Romania's foremost composers and conductors.
Aurelian Octav Popa and Iancu Vaduva were first clarinet and repectively trumpet in the Enescu Philarmonic in Bucharest.I will post soon clarinet concertos by Vieru and Stroe written for Aurelian Octav Popa.
Serban Nichifor's music can't be downloaded, can jacky open it again,thanks!
There is a second link .The first one I set to private as contained a work which is purchasable on CD.
Quote from: Dundonnell on Friday 02 March 2012, 02:00
Thanks very much to Jacky for the large collection of music by Serban Nichifor :)
Could I add too that it is extremely helpful to have your written Insights into the composer's music :) This helps a huge amount with music with which people will be totally unfamiliar. Thank you for these too :) :)
Thank you so much.I try to make this totally unknown music more familiar, pointing to those issues which are, imo, the most important to be stressed.
Before this weekend share I will also marginally relate to a recent thread here-which concerns us all.I think that basically an unsung composer is a dead one. ::) :o.The posterity, is generally speaking, that which decides whether a composer is recorded or played.The limitations,might be the composers dead before 1800 on one hand, and the too avantgarde composers on the other.Each one has to be the object for special blogs-early music,experimental music a.s.o.
Today I will try to shed a light on the work of Aurel Stroe (1932-2008).Well, he is unsung, is dead, but his music found already a clear place i.e it is no longer considered experimental,alternative or avanguard.
Stroe's music has an austere, enigmatic, challenging and essential strange beauty. It has moments it sounds like Xenakis in its uncompromising dissonant chords, in its strange sounds or unorthodox use of instruments.I know this sounds forbidding but give a try.Although deeply rooted in science-the catastrophe theory by Rene Thom, thermodynamics -the second principle and the Prigogine theories, or philosophy -ontology of Parmenides or Heidegger -Stroe's music fascinates and moves.I strongly advise you to read the long insights I prepared for you.I hope it will help you to grasp a music which doesn't reveal itself from the first or even second try.
All the recordings come from Radio Romania.Afaik never published,comercialised on any format.
Quote from: A.S on Friday 02 December 2011, 07:39
Oh! I forgot to upload Toduta!
I have recording of symphony no.1.
I will upload it in few days.
No one here has especially commended this Symphony by Sigismund Toduda, so listening again just now I would like to say what excellent music, - with an epic quality both brooding and heroic I find very affecting. Definitely a work of merit and more than passing interest, however conservative, - and fit for my "discovery pile". Anyone having overlooked it might want to go back. Another winner, Atsushi.
Hi Greg K, Sorry for late reply!
I agree you. Toduta's Sym#1 is excellent music. I recorded it last year, it was great found to me.
I want to listen more musics by him ;D
I too would like to hear more by Toduta. At least Symphony No.5 was issued on LP. Perhaps someone here could make that available.
I am planning to post this weekend his divertimento for strings and 4 tabulatures for strings.
Quote from: shamokin88 on Wednesday 14 March 2012, 13:54
Eugene Goosens: Variations on a Theme by Goosens
Cincinnati SO/Eugene Goosens [premiere; 23 March 1945]
http://www.mediafire.com/?cl5fyfac9eymxli (http://www.mediafire.com/?cl5fyfac9eymxli)
A word of explanation. This comes from a request. I hesitated for a while, where to put it. I was given the welcome suggestion to stow it under "American" since that is from where most of the notes come. But I decided to ignore that advice because the theme and the impetus were British. Anyway, in order, the variations come from Paul Creston, Aaron Copland, Deems Taylor, Howard Hanson, William Schuman, Walter Piston, Roy Harris, Anis Fuleihan, Bernard Rogers and Ernest Bloch, an appropriate selection from then-current American composers whose works you would have heard in our concert halls in 1945. Only the Cyprus-born Fuleihan [1900-1970] has passed from view.
From a broadcast.
I'm confused : is it Gossens or Goossens ?
Goossens.
I can see that I am for the time being the only uploader in the Romanian section.Each weekend,as long I'll have something interesting,I'll share.And because I don't want to be "the bad guy with modern music" I am going to offer this week music by some composers that already have been introduced to our forum with music roughly written till 1960.I want to add that the sources come from Romania Radio.We have in this forum like in others, I suppose, members who try hardly to show that this or that recording comes from a certain CD, and you have to delete that very link.I won't do so:the Aubade recording is not taken from the CD with works by Lipatti, and others are recordings made by Radio Romania and sourcing from there.
Today's installment contains a mixed bag with chamber,symphonic,concertante,choral music.
Lipatti:Aubade for wind quintet
Capoianu:Cinematographic variations for Orchestra,Violin concerto,Song without words
Andricu Simfonietta no 2
Ion Nona Ottescu De la Matei citire
Sigismund Toduta:Divertimento for strings,4 tabulatures by Valentin Bakfark (baroque composer from Brasov) transcribed for strings,the St John Liturgy for mixed choir.
I have noticed that my insights are not interesting-judging the number of downloads-so I won't add to the batch any .doc document.
Hi Jacky,
Do you have anything by Paul Richter that hasn't already been uploaded? Please don't get discouraged because things have slowed down right now.
Frank
Hi Jacky,
you can be sure your uploads - and also your insights - are highly appreciated in general. Details as you wrote about the performers of the Velehorschi / Popa LP are quite of interest for me, as background information is often fascinating. I also read your notes about the fascist connections of some older Romanian composers, a fact about which I never heard anything before but it was good to know this even if I like their music nevertheless (at least partially).
My own Romanian collection is not that large that I could share much. I am thinking about uploading Drăgoi's Divertisment rustic since members seemed to like his Piano Concerto, but I have to admit that I do not really consider the Divertisment to be a good piece.
As for your statement about you being "the bad guy with modern music": don't be vexed about that. I guess the general taste here is a bit more conservative indeed, I wouldn't exclude myself here either. Actually regarding the Romanian composers born in the late 1920s or early 1930s my favourite is probably Pascal Bentoiu, who is clearly not the most modernist one. I would be glad to get a full recording of his Cello Concerto, in fact (I only have an excerpt).
Also, as talking about wishes, a composer I would definitely like to explore more is Gheorghe Dumitrescu. I wonder whether there are any recordings of his symphonies apart from No. 3 (which I have).
Jacky - the most delightful music you're introducing us to here ! I certainly look forward to your next posts, and only rarely find something I can't truly appreciate. Many thanks indeed !
The truth is that 'Unsung Composers' has been quite quiet this week for whatever reason (apart, that is, for that chap who keeps on posting catalogues of British composers' music ;D ;D).
I do have to admit that the Stefan Niculescu and the Aurel Stroe were too difficult for me but I really enjoyed the Serban Nichifor and the 'Insights' you provided are of tremendous value in understanding the context of these compositions. I can understand that the Nichifor Requiem might well be received with some scorn by certain people but I find it a most moving work!!
....And the Nichifor Symphonies Nos. 3 and 4 are-as you said-tremendous fun ;D ;D
Please continue with what you are doing. Not all of the music may appeal to me but I shall never know unless I get the chance to hear it :)
Quote from: fr8nks on Friday 16 March 2012, 16:58
Hi Jacky,
Do you have anything by Paul Richter that hasn't already been uploaded? Please don't get discouraged because things have slowed down right now.
Frank
No Frank,I had once his organ concerto but somehow disappeared.
Quote from: Holger on Friday 16 March 2012, 17:21
you can be sure your uploads - and also your insights - are highly appreciated in general.
I am thinking about uploading Drăgoi's Divertisment rustic since members seemed to like his Piano Concerto, but I have to admit that I do not really consider the Divertisment to be a good piece
As for your statement about you being "the bad guy with modern music": don't be vexed about that.
Also, as talking about wishes, a composer I would definitely like to explore more is Gheorghe Dumitrescu. I wonder whether there are any recordings of his symphonies apart from No. 3 (which I have).
One of Dragoi divertisment sections "colind" is splendid.I have this section conducted by Enescu,but it is on an OOP CD so I can't upload it on UC.
I am not vexed.My affirmation was in fact a kind of variation on the nickname of "bad boy" received by George Antheil. 8) 8)
Gheorghe Dumitrescu,Ion Dumitrescu's brother is totally forgotten and unsung.Well,actually he wrote some oratorios that reflected Communist Party's ideology, thus he is obscured.His third symphony would be welcomed.
Quote from: cjvinthechair on Friday 16 March 2012, 19:37
Jacky - the most delightful music you're introducing us to here ! I certainly look forward to your next posts, and only rarely find something I can't truly appreciate. Many thanks indeed !
Thank you!I also like to check all and keep what it seems interesting!
Quote from: Dundonnell on Friday 16 March 2012, 21:14
I do have to admit that the Stefan Niculescu and the Aurel Stroe were too difficult for me but I really enjoyed the Serban Nichifor and the 'Insights' you provided are of tremendous value in understanding the context of these compositions. I can understand that the Nichifor Requiem might well be received with some scorn by certain people but I find it a most moving work!!
....And the Nichifor Symphonies Nos. 3 and 4 are-as you said-tremendous fun ;D ;D
Stroe and Niculescu are definitely not the cup of tea for those who aren't used to listen modern/contemporary music. BUT,this music is a lot more,IMO,than an experiment with "ugly music".There is an aesthetic beyond all the "noise"
I really dislike Nichifor the man-his is kitschy,pathetic,rude...but his music,despite some saccharine sometimes,works and is likeable.
Quote from: Jacky on Tuesday 20 March 2012, 20:49
I am not vexed.My affirmation was in fact a kind of variation on the nickname of "bad boy" received by George Antheil. 8) 8)
OK, I see! ;)
I will upload Drăgoi's Divertisment rustic and also Gheorghe Dumitrescu's Third Symphony soon. It's a pity composers like him are now forgotten and their works aren't performed any more due to political backgrounds. It's very similar here in Germany, where most of the music of the former Germany Democratic Republic has simply disappeared from the stage. Nobody is interested in playing music by somebody like Ernst Hermann Meyer any more, though he was definitely a very fine composer whose works much deserve a listen.
Danke!The Divertisment rustic is spendid!For the very few here that don't understand Romanian ;D :o the parts are:Colinda (Christmas Song), Doina (Romanian song of longing),Bocet (Wail song),Dance,Cantec de nunta (Wedding song).It's a "classic" Romanian work,and,as I said,Enescu conducted two parts of it.I don't know if it is on CD or not,but I would like to share with you.I'll check further to see if it doesn't infringe UC policy.
OK,I checked.
After approval you will find recordings-not in the best quality :-[-of George Enescu conducting the NYPO in Romanian unsung music.This is not my "usual" share,I'll upload soon what I have prepared.
I fell speaking alone about Romanian Music >:( :o but the number of downloads show a certain interess in the thread.
Ok,friends,this weekend batch of Romanian music is not the easiest to digest.String quartets.I tried a survey of Quartets in the last century from Constantin Dimitrescu to Doina Rotaru.An earnest, pungent, abstract music, lacking elements from the Romanian folklore.A thoughtful mood,so to speak.Hope you'll enjoy.
String quartets by Dimitrescu (first),Perlea,Rogalski,Bentoiu (second and fifth),Nichifor (second),Doina Rotaru (Vivarte).For the hard aficionados also insights.
Jacky,
I especially appreciate the Serban Nichifor Requiem Mass among your uploads, - a beautiful and affecting piece in my judgement, with a great soprano, and also the Toduta Chrysostom Liturgy. Any more Romanian choral based works you might find worthy of making available would be of very much interest.
The time has come to fulfill your wish.This Sunday will be Easter Sunday here in Romania, therefore I post a large batch of choral music written by various composers having as source of inspiration the byzantine church music but also western religious music in some cases.Full list,sources and link on the download page,as soon as the moderator will approve.
Jacky - so sorry; tried 4 times now to download your lovely choral music, but each time, on attempting to extract the files, am told that it can't proceed.
Would assume, as usual, that it's my fault, but not experiencing it with any other rar files, so thought I'd ask if anyone else has had problems.
Many thanks.
Strange:with rar the archive was extracted in 2 different folders,one of them empty the other containing the music -and recieving error messages.But with 7z I didn't have any problem.If someone else has or had the same problems,let me please know
J
Thanks Atsushi for your big uploads of Rumanian music :) Very much appreciated :)
:o :oI recieved a message concerning dead links for my upload of romanian string quartets.Searching further I discovered that all my links have disappeared and the mediafire is totally changed.Does someone from here now what happened to MF?
Hrm. Checked my Mediafire links to folders and direct to files - they still seem to work. How did you create the links?
Free hosting.uploaded up to 200 MB.
... I meant, what technique did you use? I clicked "share" - share folder or share file, as needed - and copied/pasted the link it provided me with.
With respect to the new Cuclin symphony - and a thanks for that - the word for twenty is douzaceci and that is what I think I hear at the end.
I also did some research in case of this new Cuclin symphony and can confirm it must be No. 20 indeed. MGG (the German music encyclopedia) give C Minor as key of No. 20, and this symphony is really in C Minor. The full title is: Symphony No. 20 in C Minor "The Triumph of the Brotherhood of Peoples", and it was composed in 1972.
Thank you very much tell me correct information.
I modified my upload now :)
Thanks for uploading Cuclin 20! (I wonder if the score has been published and what the movement headings of its movements - movement? - time to go listen - are :) ... )
Thank you for the Golestan.It's virtually impossible to find a recording even here in Romania.A long time ago,on Lys,Piero Coppola conducted this "Rhapsodie roumaine".Even if OOP,I can't share it.Golestan,as Lazar or Mihailovici,where Romanian Jews,living most of their lives in France.
After a lot of research: ;D ;D
Stan Golestan-Pe varfurile Carpatilor (On the top of the Carpathians) (Varful cu Dor)-concert pentru pian si orchestra
Georgeta Stefanescu Barnea pianist (she)
Zi de sărbătoare" - "Voci în noapte". "Singurătate". "Veselia mulţimii" (Feast day,Voices in the night,Loneliness,Merry crowd,my trnsl).
On the same disc (hope you can also upload) concerto for percussion and 12 instruments by Filip Lazar.
Some more insights about the unsung composers shared today.
Constantin Bobescu is the uncle of the celebrated violonist Lola Bobescu (some recordings shared here in the Belgian folder)
Ion Hartulary Darclee is the son of one of the greatest operatic voices ever,Hariclea Darclee.Puccini wrote Manon and Tosca for her and Mascagni Iris-among others.The suite is made of 4 parts like a disguised symphony, inspired by the paintings of the great Nicolae Grigorescu:The ox cart(Carul cu boi),From the well (De la izvor).the Shepherdess (Pastorita),the Infantry soldier (Dorbantul).
A new edition of the International Week of New Music took place in Bucharest.I choosed to upload here two concertante works written by two important Romanian contemporary composers:the fifth flute concerto by Doina Rotaru and Diferencias on themes by Cabezon by Cornel Taranu.It is,imo,very nice music,highly recommended not only to adventurous ears.As I have seen some uploads of fresh music-Kalevi Aho among others-I decided it would be proper for these too.
Symphony #3 (Chamber Symphony) by Mihail Andricu(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ro/2/2c/M_Andricu.png)
(Pianist unknown)
Ars Mundi Ensemble
Modest, Chichirdan, Conductor
I hope Jaky can tell us more about this work.
Here is one sketch about him:
A chamber music pianist with an international career spanning 32 years, Mihail Andricu was born in Bucharest and studied at the city's Music Conservatoire where he subsequently became Professor of chamber music (1926 – 1948) and of composition (1948 – 1959).
He studied several years in Paris with Fauré and d'Indy, and at 25 he also became a graduate of the Law University in Bucharest.
A prolific composer, Andricu produced over 50 symphonic works – including ten symphonies – over 30 chamber music works as well as vocal, choral, ballet and incidental music.
He was awarded consecutively the Second and the First prize in the George Enescu competition for composers; the Enescu Prize of the Romanian Academy, international prizes as well as many distinguished state prizes after 1945.
He became a member of the Société française de musicologie in Paris and his writings on Debussy, jazz, and the role of folklore in Romanian classical music were published both in France and in Romania.
And this is an interesting snippet from a blog called Music and Politics, which covered how Andricu was covered in the "Rumanian Review" from 1946-56.
http://www.music.ucsb.edu/projects/musicandpolitics/archive/2009-2/crotty.html (http://www.music.ucsb.edu/projects/musicandpolitics/archive/2009-2/crotty.html)
QuoteIn the Review's very first issue, composer Mihail Andricu offers a condensed survey of Romanian music activity. [8] Andricu's name recurs positively in all Review articles under consideration, with particular praise directed towards his symphonies. Composers' Union president Matei Socor might have found Andricu's music lacking in socialist intent (5/1949), but his symphonies attracted enough peer praise for the authorities to present him to the increasingly suspicious and Cold-War-informed West as an artist engaged in the respected "European" form. Andricu's symphonies, acceptable to the authorities in Bucharest because of the composer's musical nationalism, continued to link Romania to the West for propaganda purposes, and to the East through the Soviet belief in the symphonic form. Andricu's ambiguous collectivist-individualist streak worked for him until he fell foul of communist authorities in the late 1950s.
Thanks for posting this! To make sure that there is no confusion in my mind, is this the Symphony No. 3 (out of the 11 numbered symphonies by Andricu), completed in 1950, or the Chamber Symphony No. 3, completed in 1965?
Quote from: ttle on Wednesday 30 May 2012, 22:42
Thanks for posting this! To make sure that there is no confusion in my mind, is this the Symphony No. 3 (out of the 11 numbered symphonies by Andricu), completed in 1950, or the Chamber Symphony No. 3, completed in 1965?
The confusion is in my mind-- I didn't know there were two of them--- any ideas?
Hrm. We have no.4 uploaded from awhile back, too. And no movement headings for it, I think...
A sinfonietta (his 11th, as I recall) by Andricu is sometimes broadcast.
Just listened to it.It is,definitely a chamber symphony for two main reasons:you can hear the sparse instrumental texture and secondly, there is an historical reason:The very first Romanian chamber symphony was written in 1955 by Enescu,after the Maestro, Vieru,Mendelsohn,Dan Constantinescu wrote works with this title.Andricu's work uploaded here has seemingly the same instrumentarium like Enescu's cs namely piano,strings,winds.If you could give me the unedited tape or the cover I can try to see if there is any hint regarding the work's name.Anyhow,a long research on the net in romanian, didn't return with notable results.It's next to impossible to find here information about the own musical national school.Andricu,like Jora,Cuclin,Dragoi,Paul constantinescu,Negrea a.o, had a very unlucky life-grown under the crushing shadow of Enescu,weary because the taxing communist ideology, and overlooked by the posterity.Andricu was a very free person-he organised in his tiny apartament private auditions of jazz-music banned in the fifties in Romania.He had a fake trial and condemned in 1959,his name being banned.Later on,with the thaw that came in the middle sixties,his works were again permited.
Quote from: Jacky on Thursday 31 May 2012, 09:39
Just listened to it.It is,definitely a chamber symphony for two main reasons:you can hear the sparse instrumental texture and secondly, there is an historical reason:The very first Romanian chamber symphony was written in 1955 by Enescu,after the Maestro, Vieru,Mendelsohn,Dan Constantinescu wrote works with this title.Andricu's work uploaded here has seemingly the same instrumentarium like Enescu's cs namely piano,strings,winds.If you could give me the unedited tape or the cover I can try to see if there is any hint regarding the work's name.Anyhow,a long research on the net in romanian, didn't return with notable results.It's next to impossible to find here information about the own musical national school.Andricu,like Jora,Cuclin,Dragoi,Paul constantinescu,Negrea a.o, had a very unlucky life-grown under the crushing shadow of Enescu,weary because the taxing communist ideology, and overlooked by the posterity.Andricu was a very free person-he organised in his tiny apartament private auditions of jazz-music banned in the fifties in Romania.He had a fake trial and condemned in 1959,his name being banned.Later on,with the thaw that came in the middle sixties,his works were again permited.
Thank you for all of the information, and for trying to find what you can in Romanian. It is sad that you cannot find much information about your own national school, but I have also had trouble finding out about some of the American composers I have posted.
I am particularly interested in Andricu's support for Jazz-- I'm a big jazz fan myself.
I don't have access to the source-- so I don't have access to the unedited tape or a cover.
Regarding the Andricu "Symphony #3 I think it's a little misleading to label it so, since this appears to be Andricu's Chamber Symphony #3, Op.106 of 1965, a tape of which has been around for many years. Andricu's Symphony #3 for full orch. is his Op.54 of 1950, also on tape and in my collection.
Thanks for uploading.
I've updated the posting. Thanks!
Quote from: eschiss1 on Saturday 12 May 2012, 02:01
Thanks for uploading Cuclin 20! (I wonder if the score has been published and what the movement headings of its movements - movement? - time to go listen - are :) ... )
I used to have a book called "Repertoriul general al creației muzicale românești" and from what I remember, the only one of his symphonies to be published was No. 9 in C sharp minor - of which, of course, there is no recording! It's unlikely to be published now, as the Romanians hardly publish any scores these days...
Well ,actually, there is a heavily cut non-commercial recording of no.9, but I take it you mean a complete one :)
On 14th of June passed away Dumitru Capoianu,one of the most interesting Romanian composers in the second half of the 20th century.Atracted by jazz,he imbued his music with syncopated jazzy elements,without transforming the musical material in a symphonic jazz.
I posted two month ago some recordings with his music,but the links are dead.I am going to reupload these works.Our member A.S.uploaded on 11th of December the Phoenix suite,and the link still works.
Thank you. Sorry to hear about this- I still remember hearing (and going back to listen to again a few times, I think) his violin concerto on LP at the university library a decade or more back. Downloaded it gladly when it was posted here for it is after all lovely music.
Essential listening I would characterise the music shared today by MVS.Enescu's unfinished works-completed after his death by Bentoiu and Taranu give us a glimpse in his artistic laboratory.Isis and the fifth symphony are born in the aftermath of Oedipe and you can feel it each moment.Ruzicka the composer understands from inside the musical process and gives us a fantastic rendition.
Wilhelm Georg Berger was a Saxon-the Germans from Transilvania.His music is indeed very german-solid,monumental,spacious,serious-sounds like a more tonal free Reger or a less aventurous Berg.He wrote 24 symphonies,21 string quartets,concertos for various other instruments,chamber music, Masses, musicological books.His music will appeal to those who like the music of Reger, Schmidt, Pfitzner,early Berg and Schonberg,late Strauss...
Quote from: Jacky on Tuesday 19 June 2012, 10:55Essential listening I would characterise the music shared today by MVS. Enescu's unfinished works- . . . Wilhelm Georg Berger . . .
Seconded. Enescu is one of my favourite twentieth-century composers, and these contributions - which I have not heard before - interest me very much.
Incidentally, does any one know whether a DVD of
Œdipe exists? I have heard the music but I'm still looking forward to watching the action. (There are a just a few extracts on Youtube.)
Many thanks to both A.S. and MVS!
I really hope that there are more than just a few of you who enjoy the Berger as much as I do.
I just had to upload these, because Wilhelm Berger is Mike Herman's favorite composer!
(Believe me, folks, I'm kidding! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D)
Schuman,Schumann,Toch,Bloch,Wilhelm Georg Berger and Wilhelm Petterson Berger,Verdi and Monteverdi,Weber and Webern... :o
W.G.Berger is a sad story.As a German in communist Romania,he refused to "go back in Heimat" the BRD.A devoted protestant in an atheistic otherwise orthodox country.A conservative post romantic musical language in the times of avantguard.Before 1989,orchestras had to play and record contemporary Romanian music-hence a great corpus of recordings and performances of his music and of other composers,generally mixed bag,because,it was after all "a duty"..Nowadays he is a totally unsung composer,not sure a top drawer-his music seems sometimes to be stolid but there's a lot to enjoy whithin a careful listening.
DVD of Oedipe I don't know to exist.Generally speaking Oedipe had better recordings than stage productions.
will check out the W G Berger very soon; his name kept turning up when I looked up Wilhelm Berger, so I have been curious for awhile... Thanks much!
Quote from: Miklos Pogonyi on Saturday 02 June 2012, 00:23
Regarding the Andricu "Symphony #3 I think it's a little misleading to label it so, since this appears to be Andricu's Chamber Symphony #3, Op.106 of 1965, a tape of which has been around for many years. Andricu's Symphony #3 for full orch. is his Op.54 of 1950, also on tape and in my collection.
Thanks for uploading.
Andricu was an extremely gifted and talented composer..I would love to hear more..much more...his music is very accessable and well crafted.
This link confirms a cycle of 3 Chamber Symphonies and a dozen for full Orchestra.
http://www.musicweb-international.com/Balkan_discography/ECE_Balkan_Symphonies1.htm#ANDRICU
In regards Andricu I'm not sure if this link- from the Italian, not the English, German or Romanian Wikipedias- has been pointed out- but it seems helpful...
Not quite a dozen- 11 symphonies, apparently- and 13 sinfoniettas, 3 chamber symphonies, etc.
list of Andricu's works by type (http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_delle_composizioni_di_Mihail_Andricu_per_genere).
Wilhelm Berger's music is sometimes good, sometimes not. I like his 5th symphony and his 10th (for organ and orchestra) quite a bit but the other works are not that interesting. If you are going to want to hear something by WB try the symphony no. 5 first of all. You may come up with an entirely different opinion but this is my feeling about his music!