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Title: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 10:20
is the recording of the Vladigerov 2nd violin concerto that released on Balkanton with Dina Shnaĭderman as violinist and Alexander Vladigerov conducting?
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: fyrexia on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 16:39
i am sorry but the performers are unknown to me.

Tony
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: Christopher on Monday 15 August 2011, 09:41
Hi Fyrexia - I've just come across your thread - would it be possible to open these files for download once again?  I am curious to discover Bulgarian music!
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: eschiss1 on Tuesday 06 September 2011, 14:40
surprisingly, the Pipkov 1st (of 4+?) symphony score may not have been published until 20 years after it was composed and 10 years after Iliev recorded it for Supraphon- odd. (Maybe even more surprisingly, his 4th symphony is available on CD. Looking for a movement list- even if just metronome marks- if the score has anything- for the first symphony :)  will see if I can turn anything up.)
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: eschiss1 on Monday 10 October 2011, 17:31
still need to listen to the whole Vladigerov first symphony but what I heard sounds good. It also, however, doesn't sound at all "D minor" - it might be in D major, or F major (I don't lay claim to perfect pitch) but neither in the first movement or (I checked the last movement just to make sure I hadn't switched the order of the movements along the line and been listening to a triumphal finale by accident) ... - nothing especially "minor-mode-ish" about either at all. Clarification welcome?
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: Tartini on Tuesday 11 October 2011, 22:29
I think the 5th movement in the second symphony is missing. The whole symphony is about 45min.
Thanks anyway for upload. It is a great symphony.http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/Smileys/default/smiley.gif
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 12 October 2011, 21:11
re Raichev 2nd symphony- thanks for pointing that out... hrm. you're quite right. will see what i can do about that ...
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 13 October 2011, 03:20
Hrm. Will need to lock sym. 2- sorry!- as I am not sure atm (will try to find out) whether it is Stefanov (not on CD ) or Nachev or Raichev (yes, partially on / totally on CD). Raichev's own recording, coupled with symphony 6 "Liturgical", is available n the Bulgarian Radio Label according to CD Universe. Tracks from Milen Nachev's recording show up at Amazon. Apologies. Still know of no other recordings of symphonies 3, 4 besides Manolov, Kazandhiev from Balkanton reissued on Terpsichore LP.

Sorry, that was the wrong link-
here (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005P38ZTU/) - Nachev and Stefanov recordings of symphonies 2 and 6, at Amazon, released last month.
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 16 October 2011, 22:21
sigh. still need to check the source of Rajchev's symphony 2 - sorry about delay- and no luck getting a copy of the finale. Fortunately it's commercially available in CD and mp3 at Amazon in Nachev's recording (of 2, coupled with Stefanov's of 6- ah, as I already noted- forgot, sorry...) unlike the others.
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: Tartini on Sunday 16 October 2011, 22:41
Don't know how "correct" this site is. But here is a link to the whole symphony. You have to register before download. http://classical-music-online.net/en/production/22608 Anyway you can listening here.
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: kolaboy on Saturday 22 October 2011, 04:49
Hi.

Has anyone ever come across the symphonies of Jules Levy? I know that his second was issued on Balkanton years ago - long out of print, of course...
The only orchestral work of his in my possession is his ballet suite "A Fair At Sophia".

Any and all wisdom appreciated ;)
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 22 October 2011, 05:19
I think I first heard of Jules Levy a few days ago - but there's a page about him here (http://www.ubc-bg.com/en/composer/78) that seems to start with... 1930-2006, 4 symphonies, 1958/1970/1975/1984 (for winds) / also Zhul Levi or Жул Леви (Jules Levy turns up nothing post-1930 in Worldcat.org but Zhul or Cyrillic might...)

Yep, "Zhul Levi" turns up Vasil Stefanov's recording for Balkanton of the 2nd symphony in Worldcat... and the 3rd symphony turns up too. Searching by his Cyrillic? name turns up a book (held in one library only at present so far as Worldcat knows, National Library of Israel.)
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: semloh on Sunday 22 January 2012, 11:24
Sicmu - thank you for the very impressive Yosifov symphony!
This is a new name to me, and it's a really powerful work which has kept my attention throughout.
:) :)
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: Sicmu on Sunday 22 January 2012, 16:35
Glad you liked it, so I will upload his fifth soon.
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: fr8nks on Monday 23 January 2012, 16:06
I have a lot of works by Yossifov and will upload his Violin Concerto later today.
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: Sicmu on Tuesday 24 January 2012, 03:24
Thx for the Violin Concerto : I also have a lot of music by the Yossifovs ( father and son) but didn't have that one. At first hearing it was surprising to notice that except for a few parallel fifths in the harmony, the music sounds much more american than bulgarian.
I will upload soon some works by Gubarenko that sometimes are also close to american music and especially Barber.
I should also mention a festive Overture by Kozlovsky that opens (and ends) in a pure Waltonian manner !
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: fr8nks on Tuesday 24 January 2012, 04:02
You are welcome. I have never heard anything by Alexander Yossifov that I didn't enjoy. I am looking forward to more works by Gubarenko.
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: lechner1110 on Thursday 26 January 2012, 13:08

  I listened some works by A. Yossifov yesterday and today.  These are very interesting work written in good Balkan music tradition :)  I will listen again in this weekend. Thanks!
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: semloh on Thursday 26 January 2012, 23:28
Quote from: A.S on Thursday 26 January 2012, 13:08

  I listened some works by A. Yossifov yesterday and today.  These are very interesting work written in good Balkan music tradition :)  I will listen again in this weekend. Thanks!

They won't be to everyone's taste, but I'm really enjoying the Yossifov. That concerto is inventive and entertaining - and for me, that's a quite exceptional reaction to a modern chamber work!  ;D
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: Dundonnell on Thursday 09 February 2012, 14:18
It seems to me that Pancho Vladigerov is by far the most impressive of the 20th century Bulgarian composers whose works have been uploaded for the members of this forum. Discussion of Vladigerov has been rather spread across a number of separate threads (as have the downloadable links ;D) but the First and Second Symphonies, the First and Second Piano Concertos and the Second Violin Concerto are certainly all available here.

I understand that there are five Piano Concertos in total and, although the later ones may not have quite the romantic freshness of the first two, the third at least is spoken of as a brilliant virtuoso piece.

It is however the Violin Concerto No.1 which is quoted as Vladigerov's most impressive piece, recalling the Szymanowski 1st.
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: JimL on Thursday 09 February 2012, 16:05
I have found his music to be most compelling and original.  Truly a 20th Century standout sadly drowned out by the more high-profile Polish and Soviet Russian composers as representatives of the entire Eastern European bloc.  But how in the dickens did he get a name like Pancho?  Was his mom from Spain or something?
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: jerfilm on Thursday 09 February 2012, 16:25
I often wondered he same thing, Jim.   

When I first heard his earlier piano concertos, I was reminded of Rachmaninoff and I was eager to explore his entire output.  But I was eventually disappointed - IMHO the melodic content diminishes and the music becomes more dissonant and less memorable.  But then that's just my taste showing through; I'm sure others will love him.

Jerry
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 09 February 2012, 16:26
Don't know.
Interestingly, according to MPH (http://www.musikmph.de/musical_scores/vorworte/288.html) he was a student, at least briefly, of Gernsheim's. ("Owing to his Jewish extraction, Vladigerov's German career came to an end with Adolf Hitler's accession to power." Also interesting...)
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: fr8nks on Thursday 09 February 2012, 17:01
I have Vladigerov's Piano Concertos Nos.4 & 5 but they are not in great sound. If there is an interest I will upload them. I also have No.3 but it is available on a commercial CD.

Frank
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: JimL on Thursday 09 February 2012, 17:41
Quote from: fr8nks on Thursday 09 February 2012, 17:01
I have Vladigerov's Piano Concertos Nos.4 & 5 but they are not in great sound. If there is an interest I will upload them. I also have No.3 but it is available on a commercial CD.

Frank
If your version isn't the one that's commercially available I think it's kosher to upload it by our groundrules.  What say you, Mark?
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: fr8nks on Thursday 09 February 2012, 17:51
The version that Gega (N0.GD 203) is currently selling has these artists:

Bulgarian National S. O.
Alexander Vladigerov, Conductor
Svetla Slavcheva, piano

Artists from a much older CD (GD 107)are:
GD 107 has been replaced in their catalog with a different CD
http://www.geganew.com/index_en.htm

Bulgarian Radio S. O.
Vassil Kazandjiev, Conductor
Boris Nedeltchev, piano

What do you think?
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: JimL on Thursday 09 February 2012, 18:58
My question is, is the version you have one of the commercial CDs?  If so, we can forget about uploading it right now.  If, however, what you have is an LP that has never been released on CD or a broadcast we might be able to stick it in the archives.
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: fr8nks on Thursday 09 February 2012, 19:08
Quote from: JimL on Thursday 09 February 2012, 18:58
My question is, is the version you have one of the commercial CDs?  If so, we can forget about uploading it right now.  If, however, what you have is an LP that has never been released on CD or a broadcast we might be able to stick it in the archives.
Both versions I have are on CD but as I said I believe one of them is no longer available. The versions I have of Vladigerov's PCs 4 & 5 are from LPs and are different performances than those found elsewhere on the internet.
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: Dundonnell on Thursday 09 February 2012, 20:32
.........and the Violin Concerto No.1 ??? ???  It was once on LP but I don't know if it was ever transferred to cd ???

It is the cracker apparently ;D
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: fr8nks on Thursday 09 February 2012, 21:49
I have Vladigerov's Violin Concerto No.1 from either a LP or radio broadcast.
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 09 February 2012, 22:14
I think I've seen it broadcast/rebroadcast on BBC - not sure.
There's a PDF dissertation by Mario Dimitrov, I may have mentioned, on Vladigerov's first violin concerto downloadable here (http://etd.lsu.edu/docs/available/etd-03162006-135622/unrestricted/Dimitrov_dis.pdf) - not public domain I'm sure but for study. (Nice to have that sort of study easily available in my opinion...) (It also touches on concertos by Raychev and others - indeed, two generations' worth.)
(Oddly, his dissertation gives the date 1956 for Stoyanov's violin concerto (page 45). I have a recording of it- maybe downloaded from here?... whose attached notes seem to give the date 1948?... Also, he claims the finale is "Ritmico" whereas I have "Vivo". Maybe there are three Stoyanov concertos (the concerto and concertino, and the 1948 piece I have) or maybe something is odd here... )
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: Dundonnell on Thursday 09 February 2012, 23:32
Quote from: fr8nks on Thursday 09 February 2012, 21:49
I have Vladigerov's Violin Concerto No.1 from either a LP or radio broadcast.

I hope that you will be able to upload it at some point :)
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: fr8nks on Friday 10 February 2012, 00:21
Quote from: Dundonnell on Thursday 09 February 2012, 23:32
Quote from: fr8nks on Thursday 09 February 2012, 21:49
I have Vladigerov's Violin Concerto No.1 from either a LP or radio broadcast.

I hope that you will be able to upload it at some point :)

I'll upload it tomorrow, Colin.
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: Dundonnell on Friday 10 February 2012, 00:23
Look forward to that :)

Thanks, Frank :)
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: Dundonnell on Friday 10 February 2012, 12:03
......and, again, Thanks for the upload :) :)

From what I have heard so far I would concur with the view that this may well be the work in which Vladigerov demonstrated his early ability to fuse Romanticism and the influence of early 20th Century Expressionism into a lyrical, heady whole. His later music is more of a mix of Romanticism, Bulgarian folk music and, after 1945, a populism dictated by Bulgarian isolation from much of the rest of Europe.
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: fr8nks on Friday 10 February 2012, 12:33
You are welcome. I have a 7 LP set of Vladigerov's orchestral works which are nationalistic in their themes. I will try to upload some of them
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: Dundonnell on Friday 10 February 2012, 12:36
Quote from: fr8nks on Friday 10 February 2012, 12:33
You are welcome. I have a 7 LP set of Vladigerov's orchestral works which are nationalistic in their themes. I will try to upload some of them

Presumably you have heard the CPO cd containing Vladigerov's Traumspielsuite, the Bulgarian Rhapsody "Vardar" and the Seven Bulgarian Dances ??? All very colourful music :)
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: Greg K on Saturday 11 February 2012, 03:52
Does anyone have an uploadable recording of Vladigerov's Op.47 Symphony "Jewish Poem" (1950)?
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: fr8nks on Saturday 11 February 2012, 12:48
Quote from: Greg K on Saturday 11 February 2012, 03:52
Does anyone have an uploadable recording of Vladigerov's Op.47 Symphony "Jewish Poem" (1950)?

Hi Greg--I have a copy of it and will upload it soon.
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: JimL on Sunday 12 February 2012, 03:09
I'm having a BIG problem with the download of the Vladigerov VC 1.  Apparently the files were somehow reversed when they were uploaded.  Apparently the first two movements run together and total about 19 minutes.  The finale is separate and is about 10 minutes.  Well, when I drop them into my iTunes the finale always winds up on top - it always ends up playing before the first two movements, and there doesn't seem to be anything I can do to put the movements in proper order.  I've joined them, but apparently the 2nd movement never resolves and runs directly into the finale too, so the only way I can get everything to work right is to split them again.  Has anybody else had that problem?
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: fr8nks on Sunday 12 February 2012, 13:20
Hi JimL,

I'm not sure I understand your problem. But suppose you had four files: f1, f2 ,f3 and f4. Now you create a zip file and upload it. Now you download it and you drag the files one at a time from the zip folder. Normally you would drag f1 out first, etc. Now they would be arranged in sequence. I don't have I tunes but after transfering them to that folder they should be in order. If they are not in order, click on view on top of computer page and tell it to arrange icons by name and they should be in alphabertical order with f1, f2, f3 and f4 in sequence no matter how they were unzipped or uploaded.

Frank
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: JimL on Sunday 12 February 2012, 16:10
Ah, you don't have iTunes.  Well, I'm not entirely sure how iTunes works either.  All I know is that when I double click on a file in my downloads to open it (and my Zip extractor puts the files into Downloads or My Music, if I select that) my iTunes automatically opens up.  Normally, I'll open up one then the other and iTunes will put them in the proper order by itself.  If it doesn't, I can rename the files so that it does by numbering the movements (1, 2, 3, etc.).  However, this time that didn't work.  No matter how many times I tried to re-label the finale so it would appear under the first two movements, it always ended up on top.  I did note that in the original download the first and second movement file was labeled Vladigerov VC 1-2 and the finale was labeled Vladigerov VC 1-1.  I'm wondering it that has anything to do with it.  In any event, I joined the files together in the proper order, and I'm going to listen to the whole thing today at some point and get the timings down, because it sounds like there is a direct connection (attaca) between the 2nd movement and the finale, but there's a long gap in the join that I want to cut out.  So hopefully, I can re-split the file and have everything come out in the proper order.
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: fr8nks on Sunday 12 February 2012, 16:59
Jim--I just dowloaded it again and when I open the zip file the first entry is VC1-1 which is 19:30 and the second line is VC1-2 which is 10:23. I would try to help you if I better knew what was happening. If I understand you correctly, when you open the zip file the lines are reversed but the movements are labeled correctly. There are many times I open a zip file from UC and the order of the movements might be 4-2-1-3 but I just drag them out in the order I desire. Are we talking about the same thing?

Frank
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: JimL on Sunday 12 February 2012, 21:44
I'm going to try it again.  I'll let you know what happens.
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: JimL on Sunday 12 February 2012, 22:16
OK.  Near as I can tell we have the first two movements in one file, the finale on a separate one.  If I leave things as they are, for some reason, the iTunes library stacks "Vladigerov VC 1-2 on top of Vladigerov VC 1-1 when I drop them in.  If I retitle the album "Vladigerov: Violin Concerto No. 1 it will put the files in proper order, but if I try to retitle the tracks "1. Moderato - Andante cantabile" and "2. Allegro ma non troppo" it puts the finale back on top of the first two movements.  Right now I have them in the proper order under the album Vladigerov: Violin Concerto No. 1, but only because I have the tracks of the first two movements as 1. Moderato - Andante cantabile and the finale as Vladigerov VC 1-2.  If I try to put the finale as track 2 it goes back on top.  Most frustrating.
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: Mark Thomas on Monday 13 February 2012, 08:18
I'm not sure that all this has needed to be exposed to the pubic gaze, Jim, but have you looked at the "track" tags? If they aren't already, try using the iTunes "Get info" command to tag them "1 of 3", "2 of 3" and "3 of 3". It might just help. They all need to have the same album name and performers of course.
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: JimL on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 01:57
Well, I did that, and at first it didn't work, but then I took a closer look...to find that my entire library had been turned upside down!  Apparently the Sort Composer button had been hit accidentally.  Now everything is as it should be.  BTW the Vladigerov VC 1 is apparently in F-sharp minor.  And what a whale of a piece it is, too!  Kind of reminds me of the Korngold, in a way.  That same lush orchestration with the harp and percussion, and big, intensely chromatic tunes coupled with dissonant tutti passages.
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: minacciosa on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 04:07
Quote from: Dundonnell on Thursday 09 February 2012, 14:18
It seems to me that Pancho Vladigerov is by far the most impressive of the 20th century Bulgarian composers whose works have been uploaded for the members of this forum. Discussion of Vladigerov has been rather spread across a number of separate threads (as have the downloadable links ;D) but the First and Second Symphonies, the First and Second Piano Concertos and the Second Violin Concerto are certainly all available here.

I understand that there are five Piano Concertos in total and, although the later ones may not have quite the romantic freshness of the first two, the third at least is spoken of as a brilliant virtuoso piece.

It is however the Violin Concerto No.1 which is quoted as Vladigerov's most impressive piece, recalling the Szymanowski 1st.

Having heard both Violin Concertos many times now, I have to say that the first is a good piece, but it is not really fully mature Vladigerov. It leans upon certain devices (such as whole tone chords or passages) in a way that the older composer did not, and the composers early influences are here still undigested. In fact, the voice itself is not quite yet the real Vladigerov. The 2nd Violin Concerto is fantastic. It's a work of a master composer; there's nary a misstep in its narrative. Unlike the 1st, this work could be popular if it could ever gain regular exposure.
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: minacciosa on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 04:30
Is there any music by Konstantin Iliev?
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: JimL on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 05:49
Au contraire, Monsieur!  Both VCs can be popular, the first no less than the second!  The youthfulness and color of the 1st are sure to gain favor.  I still need to give the 2nd another hearing.  That will be on my agenda for the morrow.
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: fr8nks on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 12:21
Quote from: minacciosa on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 04:30
Is there any music by Konstantin Iliev?

I have the Concerto Grosso by Konstantin Iliev.
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: JollyRoger on Friday 17 February 2012, 04:42
fr8nks:
Thanks so much for posting the Concerto for Orchestra and Sonata-Poem by Raychev..he is one of my favorite composers
and I can't wait to hear this. And the quality of the Balkanton LP to date has been excellent.
ANYTHING orchestral in addition to what is here would be deeply appreciated...any concerti, overtures, ballet or other suites would be heaven sent.
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: fr8nks on Friday 17 February 2012, 14:07
You are very welcome. I have his Symphonies 2 thru 6. I know symphonies 2 and 3 have been uploaded but haven't checked the others. I'll upload what isn't here. Latvian has his choral Symphony No.1 and you might ask him to upload it.

Frank
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: Dundonnell on Friday 17 February 2012, 14:18
Quote from: fr8nks on Friday 17 February 2012, 14:07
You are very welcome. I have his Symphonies 2 thru 6. I know symphonies 2 and 3 have been uploaded but haven't checked the others. I'll upload what isn't here. Latvian has his choral Symphony No.1 and you might ask him to upload it.

Frank

Nos. 3 and 4 have been uploaded ;D Not, as far as I can see, No.2.
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 17 February 2012, 16:02
The version of Raichev's symphony no.2 that I have is a copy of a commercially-available (on compact disc) recording, so when I found that out after uploading it I took it down. (Well, made it private, but effectively so.)

There's a few commercially-available recordings of this work and some no longer available (but once available on CD), I don't know of any airchecks etc. or whathaveyou that haven't at some point been available on CDs- our breakpoint- of the work that could be uploaded in its stead.
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: Dundonnell on Saturday 25 February 2012, 21:45
I can provide uploads of an alternative performance of Alexander Raichev's Sonata-Poem for Violin and Orchestra(Boyan Lechev/Bulgarian National Radio SO/Vassil Stefanov) and Vessilin Stoyanov's Violin Concerto of 1948.

Any interest ???
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: JollyRoger on Sunday 26 February 2012, 04:30
Quote from: minacciosa on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 04:07
Quote from: Dundonnell on Thursday 09 February 2012, 14:18
It seems to me that Pancho Vladigerov is by far the most impressive of the 20th century Bulgarian composers whose works have been uploaded for the members of this forum. Discussion of Vladigerov has been rather spread across a number of separate threads (as have the downloadable links ;D) but the First and Second Symphonies, the First and Second Piano Concertos and the Second Violin Concerto are certainly all available here.

I understand that there are five Piano Concertos in total and, although the later ones may not have quite the romantic freshness of the first two, the third at least is spoken of as a brilliant virtuoso piece.

It is however the Violin Concerto No.1 which is quoted as Vladigerov's most impressive piece, recalling the Szymanowski 1st.

Having heard both Violin Concertos many times now, I have to say that the first is a good piece, but it is not really fully mature Vladigerov. It leans upon certain devices (such as whole tone chords or passages) in a way that the older composer did not, and the composers early influences are here still undigested. In fact, the voice itself is not quite yet the real Vladigerov. The 2nd Violin Concerto is fantastic. It's a work of a master composer; there's nary a misstep in its narrative. Unlike the 1st, this work could be popular if it could ever gain regular exposure.
To me, Vladigerov's most impressive work is from 1952,
Pancho wrote his Jewish poem, dedicated to his grandfather Leon Pasternak.
but I have not yet heard the symphonies.
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: Sicmu on Sunday 13 May 2012, 14:08
I deleted the following post as I just realized this work is on CD :

Vladigerov, Pancho (1899-1978)

Divertimento for chamber orchestra,
Bulgarian National Radio Symphony Orchestra,
Alexander Vladigerov (conductor)



Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: minacciosa on Monday 14 May 2012, 00:29
Quote from: JollyRoger on Sunday 26 February 2012, 04:30
Quote from: minacciosa on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 04:07
Quote from: Dundonnell on Thursday 09 February 2012, 14:18
It seems to me that Pancho Vladigerov is by far the most impressive of the 20th century Bulgarian composers whose works have been uploaded for the members of this forum. Discussion of Vladigerov has been rather spread across a number of separate threads (as have the downloadable links ;D) but the First and Second Symphonies, the First and Second Piano Concertos and the Second Violin Concerto are certainly all available here.

I understand that there are five Piano Concertos in total and, although the later ones may not have quite the romantic freshness of the first two, the third at least is spoken of as a brilliant virtuoso piece.

It is however the Violin Concerto No.1 which is quoted as Vladigerov's most impressive piece, recalling the Szymanowski 1st.

Having heard both Violin Concertos many times now, I have to say that the first is a good piece, but it is not really fully mature Vladigerov. It leans upon certain devices (such as whole tone chords or passages) in a way that the older composer did not, and the composers early influences are here still undigested. In fact, the voice itself is not quite yet the real Vladigerov. The 2nd Violin Concerto is fantastic. It's a work of a master composer; there's nary a misstep in its narrative. Unlike the 1st, this work could be popular if it could ever gain regular exposure.
To me, Vladigerov's most impressive work is from 1952,
Pancho wrote his Jewish poem, dedicated to his grandfather Leon Pasternak.
but I have not yet heard the symphonies.
The Jewish Poem is a marvelous work. Also recommended is the Concert Overture Op.27 and the opera Tsar Kaloyan.
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: jowcol on Monday 21 May 2012, 18:12
Music of Lubomir Pipkov(1904-1974)
(http://www.ubc-bg.com/uploads/composers/thumb/230_liubomir_pipkov.jpg)

Adding to the downloads section , from Karl Miller's collection, recordings of Pipkov's Piano Concerto (a really lovely work) and Symphony 2 (we have 1,3, and 4, it seems)

1-3: Piano Concerto
Nikolai Evrov, Piano
Sofia State Philharmonic
Dobrin Petkov, Conductor

4-7 Symphony 2
Sofia State Philharmonic
Konsantin Illierv, Conductor


From the Union of Bulgarian Composers Website


He is Panayot Pipkov's son. He belongs to the second generation of Bulgarian composers. He was among the founding members of the Contemporary Music Society (1933), the predecessor of the Union of Bulgarian Composers. His impressive versatility as a composer, literary man and poet, journalist and public figure, pedagogue and socially involved artist with progressive ideas made his name as one of the leading personalities in the music culture and the intellectual elite in Bulgaria in the period 1930s-1970s.

He studied Piano with Ivan Torchanov and Henrich Visner. He graduated from the Ecole Normale de Musique in Paris majoring in Composition under Paul Ducas and Nadia Boulanger and Piano under Yvonne Lef?bure. He returned to Bulgaria in 1932 and worked as accompanist at the Sofia Opera and was also actively involved in the work of the newly founded Contemporary Music Society. From 1944 to 1948 he was Director of the Sofia Opera. In 1948 he was appointed Professor of Vocal Ensembles at the State Academy of Music. He began publishing the magazine Music (1948) (siuce 1953 which was later renamed Bulgarian Music) and participated in a number of congresses and international juries. From 1945 to 1954 he chaired the Union of Bulgarian Composers. In 1974 he was elected Honorary Member of the Union of Bulgarian Filmmakers. He was posthumously awarded the title Corresponding Member of the Arts of the German Democratic Republic.

He composed in all genres of the epoch reconsidering in a new creative manner their imagery and musical language. He is author of three operas; vocal-orchestral opuses; four symphonies and other works for symphony, string and chamber orchestra; works for voice and chamber orchestra; choral and solo songs; children's songs; folksong arrangements; film music, etc. Among the choral masterpieces are "In the Field", "Spring Wind", "Yellow Butterfly", "Nani mi nani, Damiancho" or "Priglusheni pesni" – a cycle for female voices choir -, which were included in the repertoire of the Bulgarian choirs and created an internationally acclaimed image of the Bulgarian choral art at prestigious international festivals and other forums.

Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: semloh on Tuesday 22 May 2012, 00:36
jowcol - sincere thanks for the 'missing' 2nd symphony of Pipkov. I like these very much - never a dull moment!  :)
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: jowcol on Tuesday 22 May 2012, 01:02
I'll pass your note onto Karl-- I'm sure he'll be happy to see it.
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: britishcomposer on Saturday 26 May 2012, 23:20
Quote from: Bill Hayden on Saturday 26 May 2012, 23:12
Downloading Sagaev's 6 has been stopped by antivirus,it gives report malicious link

I had the same experience. This time it wasn't a fake!  ;)
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: Sicmu on Sunday 27 May 2012, 00:30
I downloaded my file and checked it with two up to date kinds of antivirus :  everything is OK.
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 27 May 2012, 01:15
At a guess, a number of the antivirus errors (but not all- it's worth checking) thrown by these files are because the programs creating them create the data but don't really do the whole job properly (don't give the file the right "MIME type", or any at all, or what have you. It's not a subject on which I could be considered an expert- or anything like it. But such mismatches look suspect to an antivirus program for good reason, as when a .jpg file that claims to be an image file is actually an executable waiting to be run when it downloads- deliberate mismatch. In some cases that I think I've found uploaded to IMSLP (for example, and the basis of my little recent experience) it's accidental, but Chrome gets queasy anyway.  Fortunately only a few viruses affect my Mac, and for those I know of I'd have to be -very- foolish and actually participate in the process, entering admin mode - rather as with phishing, giving the virus my password, etc. ... )
Title: Re: Bulgarian symphonists thread
Post by: jowcol on Wednesday 30 May 2012, 16:29
Georgi Arnaudov, Symphony No. 2 (1984)

(http://www.arnaoudov.com/logo_index3.jpg)

Bulgarian Radio and TV Orchestra
Kazandzheiv(?), conductor
Radio broadcast, Date Unknown

From the Collection of Karl Miller


A very interesting work-- he has some of the more "spiritual" modernist/minimalist elements in his work , but this is definitely not an Avante-garde freakout.

The list of influences is intriguing--  I'm not sure if I've seen Varese, Scriabin, Part, Webern and Feldmen in the same sentence before. 



Gheorghi Arnaoudov
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Gheorghi Arnaoudov
Gheorghi Arnaoudov [ɡɛˈorɡi ar̩ŋaˈudov] (Bulgarian: Георги Арнаудов) (born 1957) is a Bulgarian composer of stage, orchestral, chamber, film, vocal, and piano music. Representative of the 21st century classical music, with roots in minimalism.

Life
Gheorghi Arnaoudov graduated in composition with Alexander Tanev and contemporary music with Bojidar Spassov from the State Academy of Music Pancho Vladigerov. At the same time, he attended summer courses working with Brian Ferneyhough Ton de Leeuw. His artistic career started in the early 1980s. At the same time, he did research work in the fields of electronic music, music theory and musique concrète, as well as ancient far-Eastern and ancient Greek music. He has won many international and national awards, including the Grand Prix of the European Broadcasting Union (1985), the Golden Harp Prize from Jeunesses Musicales (1985), the Special Prize of the Union of Bulgarian Composers (1986), and the Carl Maria von Weber International Prize for Music (1989). He is the author of scientific and theoretical articles in music, as well as of reviews in musical and scientific periodicals, mainly in the spheres of the aesthetics of modernism and postmodernism, communications in the music, the contemporary arts, musical semiotics, and the theory of contemporary music. In 2000 Gega New released a CD with Arnaoudov's music called "Thyepoleo. Orphic Mysterial Rites".[1] The texts used by the composer are the original preserved Orphic hymns. For this project he consulted renown Thracologist Alexander Fol, who wrote the programme notes. In 2008 he presented To date Arnaoudov has produced numerous symphonies, oratorios, concertos and has won several international prizes. He currently teaches in the "Theatre" and "Music" departments of New Bulgarian University. In 2009 he was appointed associate professor in Composition and Harmony.

The antecedents of his music can be found in Russian Scriabin, the French mystic/modernist Messiaen, the Franco-American Varèse and, more recently, in the work of the Pole Penderecki and Estonian Arvo Pärt. The influence of composers like Webern and Morton Feldman can perhaps also be felt in the lack of any kind of conventional process or development. This is a music of stasis, a kind of intense minimalism that tells no conventional stories but rather meditates on an idea.

In a series of works of Gheorghi Arnaoudov (born 1957) composer's vision is directed towards attaining a new aesthetic of pure music (Adorno), aestheticizing renaissance sound purity. By using various techniques (including also techniques legitimizing the language of Musical Avant-garde) and their substance rethinking is achieved a new music-sensuous semantic field.[2]