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#1
This is an interesting find, and a quick search on this board resulted in nothing about this composer. Has anyone heard anything from him?
#2
Can't they?? Take a lot of choral work, for example: Beethoven's Cantatas and incidental music (ask people who wrote that janissary male choir in Ruinen von Athen, how many will say Beethoven?), Schumann's ballads, even Brahms' Rinaldo...
#3
Quote from: Alan Howe on Wednesday 31 December 2014, 20:39
I'd say congratulations were in order - and I'm glad to hear how well the Reinecke was received.
Very well received indeed. We got the most compliments for it, some others also complimented either the Schumann and (less) the Mozart (maybe because we played it first). Of all the programme, people would choose a movement of Reinecke as their favourite. It is a chamber music masterpiece, imho. In this case I think not only Reinecke not being famous prevents it from being played more often, but also there are few performances of "unorthodox" ensembles, even the Mozart doesn't get much air.
#4
I just played for some friends and family here at home the Trio for Clarinet, Viola and Piano by Reinecke, one composer I think is always in the line between sung and unsung. We hadn't heard it before, I think the clarinetist had only heard of Reinecke, but not something from him. It is a very inspiring work, and during rehearsals we had a tough time containing ourselves, from how much it propels us to be "all in" at all times. Our public was also most touched by it (we also played Mozart and Schumann) and thought it was the star of the programme, some noting the second movement specially.

I think we did as well as we could and as well as we would any other 'sung' composer, as testified by the comparison to the other pieces. Maybe "second rate" music gets more played by "second rate" musicians? I know I'm one of those, as I'm trying to ready concertos by Hiller, Ries (I know, I know, shocking!), Berwald and others, knowing that I can't compete with the more estabilshed pianists here on repertoire like Chopin, Liszt and Schumann. I'm, however, giving it my all, as I would those famous composers.
#5
actually, the Nelsson's recording in Bayreuth is almost this version (with the newer's names and changes in the text), and Bruno Weil also recorded the paris version (the problem is that Weil is boring).
#6
Adding to the list, I'd have to honour my username and say that a complete survey of Hiller's symphonies is waaaay overdue. Should fill 3 cds easily.
#7
Quote from: eschiss1 on Saturday 11 January 2014, 02:40
may have premiered the Beethoven Emperor concerto in 1811 (or given it its Leipzig premiere, I'm not quite sure what's meant)
From what I read, the latter. It seems he was responsible for introducing Beethoven's piano concertos to (north?) Germany.
#8
I wouldn't put Méhul in the "influenced by Beethoven" category, his first two symphonies (they are the only ones I have) come from the same year as Beethoven's 5th, but I don't think B's first four were too much a big deal to have inflluenced Méhul by that time, they only truly entered Paris' life with Habeneck much later (iirc). Méhul would be in the "influenced by Haydn"-team. I think they are wonderful and remarkable symphonies. Minkowski's recording of them is truly wonderful, imo.

May I also add Wilms and Schneider into the mix? I only heard one symphony from Schneider, the one recorded by CPO, and wish the others were also made public.
#9
I didn't know whether to open a new topic on this or use this one, but this will now be released in two weeks, together with the Wagner. I listened to the samples on JPC and the Wagner seems fine from the orchestra's side, better than Weil's attempt at period-Wagner. The soloists didn't strike me as much, but I don't think that'll deter me from the performance (I'm more interested in the orchestra).
I couldn't get much from Dietsch's samples to get a picture of the piece, as some of them take a while to "get a move on" and then the sample is over.

http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Richard-Wagner-Der-Fliegende-Holl%E4nder/hnum/3446478
#10
Any day when you get to know two new composers is a good day :)

I gave the samples on amazon a spin, it sounds very influenced by Mozart. I'm curious to hearing more, I'm considering buying it. Did anyone?
#11
What about Dukas? The general public knows only The Sorcere's Apprentice, and that with help from Fantasia.
#12
Recordings & Broadcasts / Meinardus: Luther in Worms
Thursday 26 September 2013, 16:21
This may not be the correct place in the forum for this, so maybe the moderators could move this thread if they feel like it.

I just wanted to share something I found intriguing, Hermann Max (of Ries' oratorios recordings) is performing this oratorio "Luther in Worms" (1874) by Ludwig Meinardus (never heard of the guy before) in Bonn (and also in Knetchsenden if I saw this correctly; this is where the other oratorios that became CPO cds were also performed).
So far so good, new performances of these kind of oratorios is just what I'd like to see, alas I'm not in Germany. What got me excited was to see in my facebook feed photos from Concerto Köln of recording sessions of this piece. They didn't give any more details, other than "CD-Produktion mit Hermann Max und der Rheinischen Kantorei". I think we should we expect a CPO recording soon (or maybe one of the other small german labels? I hope they don't take their sweet time as CPO does).
#13
Still no release date as of yet, but I just wanted to point out that they are already annoucing its coming. When you go to CPO's home page, there's a text about the label, it ends with:
"Im Beitrag, der im Kulturmagazin Kultur.21 erschienen ist, sind auch die Aufnahmen zur 1000. Produktion von cpo zu sehen, der Oper »Die Räuberbraut« von Ferdinand Ries."

In other words, CPO's 1000th production is Die Räuberbraut. Again, it's about time. It's also about time Ries catches on to programmes all around, I don't know what's taking so long on that matter. I mean, look at the man's piano concertos! Wonderful alternatives to the old warhorses!
#14
Chausson pulls two other composers immediately from my mind: Dukas and Franck.
#15
Composers & Music / Re: To buy or not to buy?
Saturday 20 April 2013, 23:02
Is it for orchestra? I'd buy it.
Is it for solo + orchestra? Idem.

Else I have to give it a spin. If the shop allows me that, I'm inclined to buy it also, and will decide listening a bit and reading the liner notes.