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The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: Alan Howe on Saturday 18 October 2014, 07:04

Title: Wagenaar vol.2 from cpo
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 18 October 2014, 07:04
...just announced for release in November (Germany):
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/cpo/detail/-/art/johan-wagenaar-symphonische-dichtungen-vol-2/hnum/4111660 (https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/cpo/detail/-/art/johan-wagenaar-symphonische-dichtungen-vol-2/hnum/4111660)
Title: Re: Wagenaar vol.2 from cpo
Post by: alberto on Saturday 18 October 2014, 10:18
For me certainly a Cd to buy. Even it will be ungenerous in timing (n.1 was 50'16"), it appears to contain just one work (De Cid) duplicating the magnificent Chailly Decca Cd.
Title: Re: Wagenaar vol.2 from cpo
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 18 October 2014, 21:35
The Chailly CD is available as an ArkivMusic reissue:
http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/Drilldown?name_id1=56182&name_role1=3&bcorder=3&name_role=1&name_id=12725 (http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/Drilldown?name_id1=56182&name_role1=3&bcorder=3&name_role=1&name_id=12725)
Title: Re: Wagenaar vol.2 from cpo
Post by: Aramiarz on Monday 20 October 2014, 14:54
Dear Alan, thank You for share the new with us!
Title: Re: Wagenaar vol.2 from cpo
Post by: JimL on Monday 20 October 2014, 17:34
The Sinfonietta in C is a marvelous piece.  Looking forward to this!
Title: Re: Wagenaar vol.2 from cpo
Post by: Aramiarz on Tuesday 21 October 2014, 02:34
Ok Jim, Have you listened this work in other version?
Title: Re: Wagenaar vol.2 from cpo
Post by: JimL on Tuesday 21 October 2014, 17:47
Just the one on YT.  Haven't checked to see if it's still there.
Title: Re: Wagenaar vol.2 from cpo
Post by: semloh on Friday 24 October 2014, 02:43
My mp3 of the Sinfonietta is tagged as by the Dutch RSO/Klas, ex-BBC R3. I actually thought it was a UC download, but maybe it's from elsewhere. In any case, I'm happy to put it up on UC if anyone wants it, provided it satisfies our criteria.
Title: Re: Wagenaar vol.2 from cpo
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 24 October 2014, 22:08
... I realize the composers aren't related, but this makes me curious how the orchestral music, e.g. the (4+?) symphonies, of Bernard Wagenaar (1894-1971) sounds, whether i.e. it's appropriate for this forum. Hrm. Maybe there's a way to find out. ...
Title: Re: Wagenaar vol.2 from cpo
Post by: Mykulh on Friday 24 October 2014, 23:49
Eric,
   You might want o check that. My research makes the two Wagenaars father and son. Of course, I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Wagenaar vol.2 from cpo
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 25 October 2014, 12:29
I seem to find a number of sources that have Bernard studying with Johan. NMI (http://www.nederlandsmuziekinstituut.nl/en/collections/595) mentions Bernard among students, also mentions Johan's marriage and two daughters but no sons. Your research may be better it goes without saying- don't hide its light under a bushel?
Title: Re: Wagenaar vol.2 from cpo
Post by: Mykulh on Saturday 25 October 2014, 13:38
Look in Baker's, usually the most reliable source of composers' biographical information.
Title: Re: Wagenaar vol.2 from cpo
Post by: Sibeliusfan on Saturday 25 October 2014, 14:23
As not all Joneses are related, in this country not all Wagenaars are family. The best biography is: Johannes Wagenaar & Jaap van Benthem: Johan Wagenaar (1862-1941) : Leven en werk van een veelzijdig kunstenaar." Walburg Pers, Zutphen, 2004. ISBN 90 5730 334 5
But of course you have to know Dutch to be able to read it. Johannes Wagenaar (yes, he is a relative) and Van Benthem stick to one wife and two daughters for Johan Wagenaar and no sons, even no illegitimate.
Title: Re: Wagenaar vol.2 from cpo
Post by: eschiss1 on Monday 26 January 2015, 12:00
Available @ MDT on February 2 2015, btw - http://www.mdt.co.uk/wagenaar-johan-sinfonietta-symphonic-poems-nordwestdeutsche-philharmonie-antony-hermus-cpo.html (http://www.mdt.co.uk/wagenaar-johan-sinfonietta-symphonic-poems-nordwestdeutsche-philharmonie-antony-hermus-cpo.html).
Title: Re: Wagenaar vol.2 from cpo
Post by: Sharkkb8 on Tuesday 27 January 2015, 03:06
Also (available now) from Amazon USA and iTunes.  iTunes USD $9.99, Amazon USD $16.99 plus a few third-party sellers are offering, starting around $13.  These are USA sites, it's always murky as to how much or little carryover there is to counterpart non-USA Amazon and iTunes sites.  Happy hunting!

https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/wagenaar-sinfonietta-vol.-2/id952460569 (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/wagenaar-sinfonietta-vol.-2/id952460569)

http://www.amazon.com/Johan-Wagenaar-Symphonic-Poems-Vol/dp/B00P3B5IK8/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1422327480&sr=1-1&keywords=WAGENAAR (http://www.amazon.com/Johan-Wagenaar-Symphonic-Poems-Vol/dp/B00P3B5IK8/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1422327480&sr=1-1&keywords=WAGENAAR)
Title: Re: Wagenaar vol.2 from cpo
Post by: DennisS on Wednesday 28 January 2015, 10:54
Have listened to sound bites of this CD. Very much like what I heard. Placed my order immediately. Thanks UC.