Chill319's last (recent- not necessarily last ,now) in the anniversaries thread made me think of this topic, as did IMSLP user Matesic's yeoman's work resurrecting string quartets from England from the earlier part of the 19th century from manuscripts in the Royal Academy of Music library (and using notation programs to prepare modern editions, and often recording them too.) My first two submissions are two? found and one not-yet-found work-
1 - Stanford's 2nd violin concerto (only in piano score? still, an edition and recording even of that would intrigue.)
2 - Stanford's unpublished chamber music (cheating here :) - 2nd piano quartet and several string quartets) - if still in existence, very curious about these too.
3 - Karl Goldmark - 2nd violin concerto. where'd this walk off to? who knew violin concertos could grow feet? (did it devise an escape plan with Brian's manuscript 1st and Wieniawski's 3rd?) if found, want to see and hear. thank you.-- the undersigned. ;)
ah, adding (sorry) - the unpublished Franz Lachner symphonies.
well, one could go on :)
Eric
Much important work has been done, but to me the real important job is to get manuscripts digitalised first of all before they get lost/damaged or simply fade away. Then worry about typsetting and performances.
I understand from the Librarian at the Royal Academy of Music that they have no funding to preserve their archives and I expect this is the same for most if not all UK libraries, so the work of interested individuals and groups is vital.
God knows what masterpieces have already been lost.
Thal
The work that I wish were found is the "real" Sinfonie Capricieuse by Franz Berwald. According to his wife, Berwald had finished a symphony with this title, but after his death, only the unfinished work now known as Sinfonie Capricieuse could be found. There are three alternatives:
a) Berwald never finished the Capricieuse, so the work we have is the only one that has actually existed.
b) The symphony that we know as the Capricieuse was finished, but it has disappeared in its final form.
c) There is a "real" Sinfonie Capricieuse that is lost. The symphony now known as Capricieuse is a work that Berwald for some reason chose not to finish.
If alternative c) turned out to be the correct one and a "new" Berwald symphony turned up somewhere, it would be the discovery of the decade (or even more) to me! However, it seems that today, most people believe in alternative a)... :(
I would love to think that the Piano Concerto by Carl Tausig wasn't destroyed in bombing during the 2nd world war; a forlorn hope maybe but maybe it lies languishing in an archive somewhere - hopefully keeping the Litolff first concerto Symphonique company.
Rob
The following full orchestral scores (those marked * exist in vocal score):
Havergal Brian - symphonic poem Hero and Leander (1905-06); English Suite No.2 (1915); choral works By the Waters of Babylon (1905/09)*, The Vision of Cleopatra (1908)*, Prometheus Unbound (1937-44)*
Frederic Cowen - Symphonies 1 (1869) & 2 (1872); cantatas St Ursula (1881)* & The Transfiguration (1895)*; operas Thorgrim (1890)*, Signa (1892)*, Harold (1895)*
Cipriani Potter - (speculative) five or six additional symphonies
Arthur Sullivan - burlesque opera Thespis (1871)
Draeseke's VC in its orchestral version (probably lost in WW2) - although Professor Müller-Steinbach is producing a performing version from the piano reduction...
Holbrooke's "Dance" Symphony - sometimes known as the 3rd Piano Concerto - for piano & orchestra. Only the 2-piano score exists.
Lost works I'd like to find are too numerous to mention, but certainly the Carl Tausig PC and Litolff's Concerto Symphonique No. 1 would be among them. And any of the concertante works for piano & orchestra by Dora Bright (apart, of course from the ones in MS at the RAM - and those need digitising).
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Holbrooke's "Dance" Symphony - sometimes known as the 3rd Piano Concerto - for piano & orchestra. Only the 2-piano score exists.
Lost works I'd like to find are too numerous to mention, but certainly the Carl Tausig PC and Litolff's Concerto Symphonique No. 1 would be among them. And any of the concertante works for piano & orchestra by Dora Bright (apart, of course from the ones in MS at the RAM - and those need digitising).
All sounds very interesting. Certainly the Holbrooke - (when will we hear the second concerto?). Dora Bright - I wonder if she is the transcriber of The Strauss Neu Wien Walzer that was recorded by Mark Hambourg? If it is her I only know her name in that context - would love to hear her Concertante works.
And John Foulds very intriguing sounding 'Symphony of East & West'. Bet it was good too! (Hovhaness eat your heart out?). Oh well,the next time I'm in Calcutta............
Hans Huber's VC and PCs 2&4.
Quote from: Peter1953 on Monday 03 January 2011, 16:37
Hans Huber's VC and PCs 2&4.
I wasn't sure whether to include "existing but possibly almost unrescuable works" in re the piano concertos, whose orchestral scores ? parts? exist but are unusable for practical purposes (I think.) ...
though ... maybe they're good enough for conjectural reconstruction à la Mahler 10, just better... :) and also, then again it's conceivable Huber had a copyist make a second set of parts for the piano concertos and they've just gone missing. And even a 2-piano recording of the piano concertos would have an appeal for fans - not enough of us for Cameo Classics or a similar existing label to take an interest, unfortunately, but the example of AKCoburg and the Tyrol Museum should be in the back of one's mind for those who -really- want such things done, I am guessing. (I mean, if it comes down to that, I haven't even -heard- any Rufinatscha - yet! - but on April Fool's Day was so pleased by the "discovery" of the 3rd symphony that I looked forward to the discovery of the parts of some of the others that only existed in piano score, to hearing ... well, tangent, sort of.)
Eric
I'd love Hans Bronsart von Schellendorf's two lost symphonies to resurface and it would be good to track down any of the symphonies of Heinrich Hirschbach, too. They're not officially "lost", but I've never been able to find the whereabouts of any of them. I believe that von Suppé's Symphony has been found but the promised recording is mired in protracted contractual limbo, I understand, so it's still lost to most of us.
I'd second many of the wishes above, but particularly Draeseke's Violin Concerto and Litolff's First Concerto Symphonique .
Finally, you'd expect me to add some Raff works to the list: the lost E minor Symphony (a five movement precursor to An das Vaterland), the Festival Overture and his first attempts at a Piano Trio and a String Quartet were all performed and praised during Raff's time with Liszt in Weimar, but as early as 1888, six years after he died, they were recorded in the definitive catalogue of his works as being "lost" (but not "destroyed"). The intriguing "Festival Overture for Wind Instruments on four beloved student songs" now only exists in the piano four hands version; it would be interesting to compare it with Brahms' Academic Festival Overture. Finally, but perhaps most important, there are five operas still in manuscript and the big (and much praised in its time) "Fairy-tale epic" cantata Dornröschen. Luckily the manuscripts have all been digitised and so the music is safe , if not readily accessible.
Another 'Dornroschen'? I was just 'drooling' over the new cpo of the Humperdinck? The excerpts sounds rather nice,but it's a 'Singspiel'!) I'm a sucker for that kind of thing,if it's well done! And this one's an epic cantata by Raff? From what I've heard so far it's got to be worth hearing. Could it ever happen?
*sneaks head in* Krommer symphony 8 (the lost one). I'd like to see all of them recorded anyway even though an author who's actually seen all the scores of the eight existing ones finds no.7 to be a serious disappointment (and I'm not even sure if I've heard nos. 1, 2 and 4, the three that have been recorded, let alone the un-numbered one that's received a Czech radio broadcast- there are a couple of brief un-numbered symphonies in addition to the 8-out-of-9 numbered... er.. whatever.) Wyn Jones doesn't seem to care for no.3 that much either I seem to recall but thought 9 a good conclusion to the series... so... good to find out if he's right- hrm. Thought they were all republished but I was thinking of Ferdinand Ries for whom this is in fact the case (Ries & Erler, appropriately, published all the Ries symphonies in 2002). Still, some of them do have modern editions, anyway...
Also, those 2 lost Röntgen violin concertos known only because of their presence in a worklist of his (several aren't lost, but his first two are, apparently.)
(Just sticking to unsung, or I'd mention all those almost-certainly-lost Bach cantatas, etc.)
Eric
Anything by my favorite composers.
For starters, a good HALF of the works of Gottschalk.
Rachmaninoff's Manfred (orchestra version if it's actually the same as the piano suite), and Two Episodes a la Liszt
Lots by Sibelius, not just the 8th Symphony. Original versions of Swan of Tuonela and The Bard. "Fencing Music". Circus March. Orchestral version of Cantata for The Helsinki University Ceremonies of 1897. Some songs and a couple piano works. And a couple missing movements from extant works, as well as piano parts missing from cello pieces.
Tchaikovsky's The Romans in The Coliseum, Boris Godunov, and the rest of Udina. Also The Tangle, Characteristic Dances, and Mentenegro.
Debussy's Psyche (which is what Syrinx came from). Also Rapsodie in the Style of Liszt, Intermezzo for orchestra, and whatever the heck the violin and cello pieces that are a mess actually were.
Granted all of these except Gottschalk aren't unsung, but eh...it's what I know of
Brian's 'Prometheus Unbound',and his English Suite No 2 'Night Portraits' (1915),sounds very intriguing,as do the titles of the individual movements. I have an idea it might share a similair sound world to some of the orchestral movements taken from 'The Tigers'. I love the night! I used to go out watching wild animals years ago,until one day I got stopped by the police & had to show my bat detector,(a device for picking up ultrasonic sounds made by those cute furry creatures), to a bemused officer,who asked me very dryly,if I had remembered my bat phone! Who did he think I was? Adam West!
Also,just about anything lost by Brian.....I mean his music of course! Especially,his early music. The music he wrote up to and around the time of 'The Tigers' is particularly attractive. I notice an 'Overture' on Buster Keaton in the list of lost works. Having recently invested in a boxed set of Harold Lloyd films,it's nice to know that Brian shared my enthusiasm for silent comedians. But with his sense of humour,living through the times he did,I suppose he would.
Gershwin, String Quartet, which he played on the piano at several parties in the weeks prior to his death.
Melartin, symphonies 7 and 8, extensive drafts of which are in Helsinki.
Sibelius 8, of course. Reports of the edition he had printed around 1939 make it appear that this was his most extended work since Kullervo.
The last movement of Janacek's piano sonata.
Quote from: chill319 on Wednesday 05 January 2011, 04:42
Gershwin, String Quartet, which he played on the piano at several parties in the weeks prior to his death.
You sure this isn't actually the Lullaby? That's the only work for string quartet I have in my list for him.
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Sibelius 8, of course. Reports of the edition he had printed around 1939 make it appear that this was his most extended work since Kullervo.
Well....certainly Scaramouche and The Tempest are just about as long. As for what was supposedly given to his publisher (or whatever it was), it was, IIRC, not even close to the whole thing, but it was, yes, intended to be a monumental work.
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3 - Karl Goldmark - 2nd violin concerto. where'd this walk off to? who knew violin concertos could grow feet? (did it devise an escape plan with Brian's manuscript 1st and Wieniawski's 3rd?) if found, want to see and hear. thank you.-- the undersigned. ;)
ah, adding (sorry) - the unpublished Franz Lachner symphonies.
well, one could go on :)
Eric
I'm soooooo with you on this one. This work MUST exist in manuscript, because I have never heard of it as being reported as lost.. but who know....
My list includes the
Moszkowski - Op. 3
Piano Concerto in B minor (unpublished) 1874 [found :) ]
Two Symphony
ies Eugen d' Albert - Piano Concerto in A minor
Sigismond Stojowski - Piano Concerto No. 3 fictitious
Henri Herz - Piano Concero no. 2 and 6 (
although I'm pretty sure Hyperion will do this eventually! )
Godard - Symphonies and Piano Concertos
And the most important
Bach - The Art of Fugue - fragment x .... if this exists!!!
Please go on,eschiss!
How about Felix Mendelssohn's Cello Concerto? If I remember correctly, Mendelssohn had completed the first movement. It was then sent to his dedicatee, the cellist Alfredo Piatti, but unfortunately lost in the mail.
I'm a little surprised that nobody yet has mentioned the full orchestral scores of Rufinatscha's third and fourth symphonies! ;)
R3 is almost certainly lost and gone for ever. R4 is certainly a major piece - or it would be if the orchestral score could be found (or reconstructed by an expert). With No.5 it constitutes the beginning of Rufinatscha's maturity.
Steibelt 8th Piano Concerto.
Thal
Quote from: Alan Howe on Wednesday 05 January 2011, 17:30
R3 is almost certainly lost and gone for ever.
I don't quite buy that. What could have happened to it? Why wasn't it with the other scores he left? Unless it was bombed out of existence, surely it must be
somewhere!
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Quote from: Alan Howe on Wednesday 05 January 2011, 17:30
R3 is almost certainly lost and gone for ever.
I don't quite buy that. What could have happened to it? Why wasn't it with the other scores he left? Unless it was bombed out of existence, surely it must be somewhere!
This has puzzled me too. If Rufinatscha left his scores
in toto to an institution why should some be present and not others? Although I suppose that they might have had a particularly harsh winter one year in the Tyrol and burnt a few to stave off frostbite.
Quote from: Simon on Wednesday 05 January 2011, 16:28
How about Felix Mendelssohn's Cello Concerto? If I remember correctly, Mendelssohn had completed the first movement. It was then sent to his dedicatee, the cellist Alfredo Piatti, but unfortunately lost in the mail.
Buh? This isn't listed at all in the (2009) thematic catalog. There's a Piano Concerto in e listed as sketckes, and nothing else incomplete, and nothing for cello.
Might be nice to heard one of those lost "Children's Symphonies" though.
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Quote from: Simon on Wednesday 05 January 2011, 16:28
How about Felix Mendelssohn's Cello Concerto? If I remember correctly, Mendelssohn had completed the first movement. It was then sent to his dedicatee, the cellist Alfredo Piatti, but unfortunately lost in the mail.
Buh? This isn't listed at all in the (2009) thematic catalog. There's a Piano Concerto in e listed as sketckes, and nothing else incomplete, and nothing for cello.
Might be nice to heard one of those lost "Children's Symphonies" though.
There are references here: http://www.cello.org/cnc/piatti.htm
(http://www.cello.org/cnc/piatti.htm) and http://www.alfredopiatti.com/home/index.php?page=biography (http://www.alfredopiatti.com/home/index.php?page=biography) (paragraph nine)
Re Rufinatscha: the existence of a Symphony in F major (No.3) is apparently indicated by the catalogue at the Tiroler Landesmuseum in Innsbruck, but cannot actually be located there. The symphony was not included in the original inventory of scores donated to the museum by the composer. (Information from sleevenote to CD of Symphony No.6.)
Re Mendelssohn cello concerto: R Larry Todd writes (p 546, Mendelssohn: a life in music, viewed online) "possibly at this time Mendelssohn shared with Piatti the first movement of a cello concerto sketched or composed for the Italian sometime after the two met in 1844". (At this time = May 4 (1846?47? from other things said on the same page, mainly the age of one other person) when the Beethoven Quartet society (in London) gave a concert in Mendelssohn's honor including the string quartet op.44/1 and one of the piano trios, Piatti playing cello.)
"Source material for this work has yet to materialize", Todd also notes. (Will have to get a copy of the book to find out what the endnote refers to- the apparent reference to the critic-philosopher Dilthey that I seem to be seeing is ... obscure and hard to understand.)
Eric
Of course, being me, I'd love to see all the symphonic scores of Franz Lachner readily available. I gather his younger brother, Ignaz, whose chamber music I greatly admire, also wrote symphonies. It would be lovely to have some of these come to light.
Lastly, on a completely different tack, has it been proved conclusively that the manuscript of Sibelius's 8th symphony was destroyed?
TAhere are numerous manuscripts of Joachim Eggert waiting to see the light of day: 10 string quartets, a piano quartet, 7 cantatas, and stage music.
QuoteRe Rufinatscha: it was the composer himself who donated his manuscripts to the museum in Innsbruck, so it appears that Symphony No.3 had disappeared before then - but who knows?
It is posible, of course, that Rufinatscha loaned the MS to someone who failed to return it - or perhaps it was lost or mislaid before the composer made his bequest. We can only conjecture.
Weber was reported to have written a piano concerto in 1802 which is now lost. Ashton's only piano concerto is believed lost as is Stavenhagen's one on C major. A concerto which needs reconstructing is Albeniz No2 in E flat. I would also like to see someone do some work on the score of McEwan's one movement concerto which I believe is still only in manuscript.
Having nominated two concertos for reconstruction I have remembered what was done to poor old Elgar's piano concerto which I consider a travesty. It should never have been released under his name but under the name of the person who arranged some scraps.
Quote from: John H White on Thursday 06 January 2011, 10:54
Lastly, on a completely different tack, has it been proved conclusively that the manuscript of Sibelius's 8th symphony was destroyed?
The last time BIS updated their progress on the complete edition, they said nothing materialized so far. The Symphonies volume is due within weeks, so we'll find out soon if that's changed yet.
GW Chadwick's early 1st symphony (out of curiosity at least).
(I forget, how much survives of Moeran's 2nd symphony? not much, I seem to recall reading.)
While I love various unsung composers, the top of my list would have to be various works by Schubert:
-Opera Adrast D137 (1819) - 8 completed numbers, 4 more sketched
-German Requiem in g minor D621 (1818), published at one point by his brother
-Requiem in c minor, D 453 (1816) (24 page manuscript present)
A few others:
Sterndale Bennett: Symphonies in Bb, d minor, A, g minor (1832-1836)
Catoire: Symphony in c minor, Op. 7
Fibich: Symphony in Eb (H4, 1865) (score lost, quartet score survives), Symphony in g minor (H69, 1866) (lost except for incipits.)
Wieniawski: Violin Concerto in D (1847), Violin Concerto No. 3 in a minor (1878)
Re Gershwin:
QuoteYou sure this isn't actually the Lullaby? That's the only work for string quartet I have in my list
for him.
The string quartet was the last "serious" work Gershwin composed. He played it publicly several times in the weeks before his death, but no manuscript is known.
May I hark back to the piano concertos of Bluebell Klean and Rosalind Ellicott? Well, I just did, also anything and everything not yet found by Louise Farrenc, Mel Bonis, Ingeborg Starck von Bronsart and any number of Romantic and 20th Century woman composers disdained in their time for not being MEN. As for male composers, Richard Maux intrigues me for whoever he was and what he composed, I have heard and liked some of his orchestral works.
QuoteGW Chadwick's early 1st symphony (out of curiosity at least).
No work needed here. The MS full score and parts exist in America in, so I am told, perfectly decent condition.
How about the early orchestral works of Oscar Straus (before his advent to the operetta world!!!). Orchestral works, chamber and I believe even a piano concerto.
Also the piano sonata by Albert Ketèlbey (written when he was 11!!!) much admired by Elgar!
Oscar Straus wrote a piano concerto which I understood when I last checked some years ago still existed. Rosalind Ellicott 1857-1924 is just beginning to get on peoples radar. I have been trying with little success to find out more about Bluebell Klean, though I haven't had much time as I'm researching other things. To throw another name into the ring, Kathleen Bruckshaw 1879-1921 seemed to have an career in parallel with Ellicott.
Some of those operetta composers,including our own Arthur Sullivan,were also very fine orchesral composers. As to Oscar Straus. I still have the starry 2 Lp emi electrola boxed set of 'Ein Waltzertraum',somewhere in the house. They don't make 'em like that any more. At least emi don't!(I remember,forlornly,hoping they'd get around to some of his other operetta's).He also did the music for the movie 'La Ronde'. An underated composer. Kalman also wrote outside the field of operetta early in his career. He really could write for the orchestra. (When will someone get round to recording,'Kaiserin Josephine?). I remember a cpo cd of orchestral music by Dostal,(another operetta composer), being praised by David Hurwitz.
Apart from 'The Merry Widow',I always found Lehar too sentimental. Also I preferred the deleted & infinitely superior emi set with Edda Moser,conducted by Heinz Wallberg,(alas,long deleted), to the vastly overated & horribly matronly sounding,(battle axe!),Elizabeth Schwarzkopf. Yuuuuk!
Monckton's 'The Arcadian's' could do with a complete recording!
Not so into operetta now.................
Hi everyone, Im a newbie to this site and my interest is not really the music, but in a composer. I`m wondering if anyone has any information on a Miss Bluebell Klean ?? The reason I`m asking is I have a photograph of a Miss Bluebell Klean at our Angling Club with a world record conger eel she captured during the 1920s , Does any one out there know if this could be the same Bluebell ? Any information would be greatfully recieved.
Nicola
on behalf of the East Hastings Sea Angling Association
You have come to the right place as honoured member Giles Enders is investigating this composer.
Is there any way you could copy the photo so we can have a look??
Thal
Bye bye, Juicy!
You can take this out with the above, Mark.
[Edit]: I've deleted the spam, Jim. Mark.
Hi Thal,
Thanks for your swift reply, I`m struggling putting a photo on here , so I`ll inbox you with it, I`ve taken a cheeky step and also emailed it to Giles .
Thanks Nicola
Thanks to 'littlenic'. It is the same Bluebell who is such a mystery. She certainly died in Hastings in 1950. From my research, she appeared to vanish from the concert platform and composing in 1922 and then I have found nothing until her death certificate. I will ask JF to post this picture on 'The Land of Lost Content' website.
While I'm on the subject of Bluebell Klean, I have yet to discover a single piece of her music including the piano concerto which was played under Sir Dan Godfrey at Bournemouth.
I'm intrigued by the mention of an orchestral Symphony in B minor from 1844 by Alkan in Ronald Smith's book on the composer. Now that would surely be quite something...
Quote from: Alan Howe on Sunday 30 January 2011, 20:47
I'm intrigued by the mention of an orchestral Symphony in B minor from 1844 by Alkan in Ronald Smith's book on the composer. Now that would surely be quite something...
It's been described in some detail in a magazine article by someone who saw the manuscript, I believe (I remember a thread
somewhere translating part of that article?...), and then fell completely from view- it really is believed lost. I hope it isn't too. (scherzo in 2nd place, for starters but aside from that- well, will look for that article, yes.)
Here are some frustratingly intriguing ones.
Dvorak - Clarinet Quintet.
Tchaikovsky - Concertstück for Flute and Strings (in Tchaikovsky's version) I believe the version we have is one reconstructed
from an unfinished manuscript.
- Cello Concerto (Had he finished what is left of the 60-bar fragment we might have had a mighty addition to the
cello repertoire.)
Mozart - Cello Concerto, K.206a.
Beethoven - Oboe Concerto.
PS: On a different note, are any works by Saint-Saens in manuscript or lost??????????
Someone named Sabrina Ratner might be the expert on that one... some, like an early piano quartet (earlier than the B-flat opus 41 I mean), were unpublished until recently I recall. (It's a piano quartet in E-flat major from around 1855 or so.)
Ok, to judge from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_compositions_by_Camille_Saint-Sa%C3%ABns) which I am guessing is based on Ratner's Grove entry, yes - early mostly not very major items, near as I can tell (though I am curious about the undated choral psalm setting).
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are any works by Saint-Saens in manuscript or lost??????????
From
A Cache of Saint-Saens Autographs (Sabina Teller Ratner in
Notes, 1984): [At the Bibliotheque nationale in Paris], in the course of preparing an annotated thematic catalogue of the complete works of Saint-Saens, the author of this article discovered an extraordinary cache of his autograph manuscripts. It encompassed over one hundred items formerly thought missing, lost, or non-existent, and disclosed some works that were completely unknown.
Volume 1 (The Instrumental Works) of Ratner's catalogue was published in 2002 by OUP - still available but with a very hefty price-tag: http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/Music/MusicHistoryWestern/NineteenthCentury/~~/dmlldz11c2EmY2k9OTc4MDE5ODE2MzIwNg==# (http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/Music/MusicHistoryWestern/NineteenthCentury/~~/dmlldz11c2EmY2k9OTc4MDE5ODE2MzIwNg==#)
Volume 2 (The Dramatic Works) is due for publication later this year: http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/Music/MusicHistoryWestern/NineteenthCentury/?view=usa&ci=9780198163213 (http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/Music/MusicHistoryWestern/NineteenthCentury/?view=usa&ci=9780198163213)
I know it's been awhile, but in the hoping to have found category, Villa-Lobos sym. 5 (not Romantic except in a general sense - but still.); and those early juvenilia by Szymanowski that supposedly (I know, I know, actually, but a person can hope) got destroyed should turn up, just because...
I am with Albion with his Cowen list that includes the first two symphonies, the operas, choral works and some of the miscellaneous orchestral music...
Came here to mention the Dvorak clarinet Quintet as well! Additionally Coleridge-Taylor wrote a clarinet sonata in his student days, if it was anywhere near as good as the quintet and his other early chamber works it would be very much worth having.
I read a long time ago that Beethoven composed his oboe concerto while studying under Haydn. And that the "famous" oboe concerto wrongly (this is for sure) attributed to Haydn could be Beethoven's work. Se non è vero...
Far from romantic music, Boccherini's symphony op. 37/2 (G516), the only manuscript of which was in Berlin, was presumed lost during WW2. Its manuscript is said to have been found in Moscow a couple of years ago, and the symphony has been recorded by Pratum Integrum Orchestra for Mitis Caro records. My only information comes from the record leaflet. I could find no discussion of the subject on the web. Does anybody have more about it?
Actually, Beethoven's oboe concerto slow movement (Hess 12) has been found and reconstructed, and recorded, first(?) on Orion in ca.1982 or 1983 (as Andante), then a new edition was prepared in 1999 (as Largo), which was recorded first on Raptus Records in 2002, on Channel Classics in 2004 (coupling to a recording of Lebrun's concertos) - those are the recordings I see on Worldcat...
Thank you. I've found the Lebrun and Beethoven concertos recording... Mine was a nice story... Too bad!
Macdowell's symphony (or what there was of it).
Chopin's Veni Creator (Chorus & organ).
Things I hope are found (but I'm not holding my breath):
1. The pages of Schubert's "Lazarus" that were supposedly used years later to light fireplaces.
2. Johann Wilms's 2d Symphony, which is supposedly lost
3. Am I correct that Kalliwoda's First Sym. exists only as a 2-piano reduction (as recorded), with the orchestration lost? If so, find it! If not, record it!
4. OFF-THREAD: Someone mentioned the "fake" Haydn Oboe Con. I'd like to have them find the real one, if there was one. Also the real 2-Horn Con., not the Rosetti one that was passed off as Haydn at one time. And the D Major Violin Con. And the Contrabass Con. And the real flute con. Greedy, ain't I?
MacDowell wrote a symphony?
Friesner: no, the score (I think the parts also) to the Kalliwoda first symphony are in the possession of the Staatsbibliothek zu Berlin (a quick search at opac.rism.info finds a reference to them. Or even faster, since I've found them- do an advanced search with RISM ID no. "452028121 (https://opac.rism.info/search?id=452028121&db=251&View=rism)".
BTW re "RISM" - all the links I've given in the past to RISM are broken now; their "Permalinks" aren't so permanent, they need to be replaced with new ones (like the preceding.) Blast.
Eric and I have been relentlessly searching for the manuscript scores for Henry Hadley's large choral works. The most important things missing are Part Two of Music: An Ode, and Resurgam. Both of these works can be counted among Hadley's greatest, yet after many inquiries we've turned up nothing so far. I'm now wondering if they might perhaps be in the UK, since Resurgam was performed there in 1924. All leads are most welcome.
Additionally, Hadley's first and fifth symphonies remain in manuscript, though I have created an engraving of the fifth that's ready to be employed when opportunity presents. I plan on getting to the first.
Others: Leo Sowerby's 5th, Vittorio Giannini's fifth, all of Edward Burlingame Hill's symphonies.
Coming back to the Templeton Strong case: I have manuscript photocopies of his early tone poems "Finsterniss" and "Todtentanz", plus two movements of his First Symphony. Todtentanz I have almost finished editing, but as long as no label is interested in financing this, I cannot allow myself to go on further with my work. On Naxos American Classics I was supposed to do a recording with pieces for solo intsruments and orchestra too; and I had already edited "Roaming", a lovely piece for violin and orchestra. This would have been making up a nice CD with pieces for violin, cell, oboe and horn solos. I've also found manuscripts of some of his stage scores.
I keep on circling back to two concertos I'd like to be found and hopefully, not in any need of reconstruction: The 2nd VC of Karl Goldmark, and the early PC of Eugen d'Albert.
Well, I'm intrigued by the early manuscripts by Ferdinand Hiller that have been found and digitized recently, but wonder if the "A minor symphony" ("No.2"?) that supposedly was performed by him along with his Opus 5 piano concerto is in there too (is it listed by him in one of his two work catalogues from his early years which SBB also digitized? I don't think I saw it- I know that a contemporary report of the premiere of the concerto mentioned _a_ symphony being performed, but maybe another report gave the key of the symphony. Hyperion Records' notes to the concerto are pretty specific but don't give a source... not that such things generally do... would be nice.)
Probably mentioned the two early, pre-No.1 Robert Fuchs symphonies (which I think are known only from press accounts of their premieres) but if I haven't... those too. What I know of his music, I adore (admittedly, the chamber music moreso- string quartets 1 & 4 most of all) which for me is reason enough to be curious, anyway :D