Charles-Wilfride de Beriot Born 12.2.1833 Paris - Died 22.10.1914 Sceaux-en-Gatinais
The illegitimate son of composer Charles Auguste de Beriot 1802-1870 and Maria Malibran. His maternal grandfather was the composer and singer Manuel del Popolo Vicente Garcia 1775-1832. Among Manuel's children were two daughters. Maria Felicia 1808-1836 who taking her husbands name was best known as the singer Maria Malibran. Her sister Michelle Pauline 1821-1910 also took her husbands name and was the singer and composer Pauline Viadot-Garcia.
Charles -Wilfride's mother died and his stepmother, Maria Huber was the adopted daughter of the natural father of Sigismond Thalberg. It was Thalberg who among others gave Charles-Wilfrede his music lessons.
Charles-Wilfride later became a professor at the Paris Conservatory where among his pupils was Maurice Ravel. He also taught Enrique Granados privately.
Orchestral
Piano Concerto No.1 Op.40 pub. by J Hamelle
Piano Concerto No.2 in C minor Op.46 1881 pub. by J Hamelle
Piano Concerto No.3 Op.71 pub. by J Hamelle
Piano Concerto No.4 Op.83 pub. by J Hamelle
Chamber
Piano Quartet in A minor Op.50 pub. by J Hamelle 1881
Piano Quartet in D minor Op.55 pub by J Hamelle
Flute Sonata Op.64
Sonata for two pianos Op.61
Piano
Tarantelle Op.3
La Revues 1855
Three Equisses for piano 1862
Ballad Op.12 1861 pub. by Schott
Mazurka 1862
Two Mazurkas 1863
Impromptu 1864
Valse Mignonne Op.29
Valse 1872
Allegretto Op.35
Le Courrier Op.31 1879 pub. by Alphonse Leduc
Ronde de Nuit in F minor 1880 pub. by Durand, Schoenewerke & Cie
Rondo Martial
Scherzando Op.39 1879 pub. by Durand, Schoenewerke & Cie.
Variations on an original theme
'La Sortie du Port' barcarolle
'A la Espanola, bolero Op.60
Method - Mecanisms and Style Op.66
Song
Desperance pub. by J. Betrand
L'Espirit du Mal pub. by J. Bertrand
J'etais sa Promise
Mon bon Ange
On me croit coquette
Ondine
Paola
My word, what a complicated family tree - in a later age he'd have been a shoe-in for "Who do you think you are"! I have a recording of his Second Piano Concerto which I'll happily upload if it's of interest.
It is indeed! ;D
I would like it too. I have been unable to trace the fourth concerto though is is referred to in various places.
The recording of the Piano Concerto No.2 is now available here (http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php/topic,3760.0.html).
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The recording of the Piano Concerto No.2 is now available here (http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php/topic,3760.0.html).
I've searched high and low for the titles of the movements, but no luck at all. I think maybe it's one for Eric! :)
The meister-researcher! BTW, I was in error in saying the source of the recording was an LP. It was a radio broadcast I now see.
I tried. Will keep trying. (And am flattered, but... er... erm... hush, Eric.)
If I may delegate (or rather, transfer approbation or blame) :) there seem to be copies of the Hamelle score - and/or 2-piano reduction - elsewhere - people near them may have more luck than me (I should think they would). One is at the University of Colorado at Boulder (in their Ricardo Viñes Piano Music Collection). Another is in a library in Poland- will have to figure out which one; the Worldcat link is broken, but may still be able to by, well, using NUKAT more directly- will do soon.
Dubal claims that Viñes (one of Bériot's pupils...) played this work in his Paris début...
(Of course, programs/playbills of performances are one source sometimes of just such movement listings so if I can find -that-... maybe it's reproduced in a bio of Ricardo Viñes somewhere :) )
In Greene's Biographical Encyclopedia of Composers (page 1034): "his (Ravel's) teacher (in 1891- Eric) was Charles de Bériot (1802-70)..."
proofreader, proofreader, where is thy sting? (And David Mason Greene is actually rather good, too. Here I agree with my father...)
Cantrelle looks wrong, btw, but apparently several recordings by him (from 60 years ago or so) are mentioned at Worldcat, and indeed a recording conducted by him of "Charles-Auguste de Beriot" piano concerto no.1 (perhaps very badly mislabeled in both composer and piece and the 2nd concerto of Charles-Wilfrid yes...) seems to be in the BM Lyon library catalog (on 3 78s.)
re: Charles-Wilfrid de Beriot's piano concerto #2, op. 46--
In the published version from the Ricardo Vines collection at the University of Colorado ("IIe concerto pour le piano avec accompagnement d'orchestre ou de 2e piano, " OCLC #50649800), the concerto is in two movements. The first is marked Allegro moderato; the second is marked Intermezzo (with a metronome mark of quarter note = 72), leading to Andante, leading to Allegro.
A pianist on the faculty of the music school happened to be in the library when I was inquiring about the de Beriot score. He is familiar with the library's holdings of music by both Charles-Wilfrid and Charles Auguste de Beriot. If contributors to UC have further questions, please e-mail me, and I will connect you with this generous man.
Thank you! (I wonder if they have the full score- their catalog lists only a reduction- but that information is already very useful and much appreciated. :) )
Quote from: Boulder on Saturday 15 September 2012, 19:02
re: Charles-Wilfrid de Beriot's piano concerto #2, op. 46--
In the published version from the Ricardo Vines collection at the University of Colorado ("IIe concerto pour le piano avec accompagnement d'orchestre ou de 2e piano, " OCLC #50649800), the concerto is in two movements. The first is marked Allegro moderato; the second is marked Intermezzo (with a metronome mark of quarter note = 72), leading to Andante, leading to Allegro.
I would say it's likelier that the tempo of the Intermezzo
is Andante. Intermezzo isn't a tempo indication but an actual title (like scherzo, or finale).
Is there any chance of finding out what the orchestra is on that download?
well, there are at least 4 piano concertos (all published by Hamelle, the first in 1881, from something I noted last night, I think...) - Opp.40, 46, 70 and 83. Wouldn't mind seeing (uploaded to IMSLP, would be my druthers) all 4 of them in some form (reduced, parts and or full-score), myself, assuming the publication dates on all 4 allow (I'd assume all 4 are even PD-US, but am not sure.)
The score of the first two piano concerto (with orchestra or 2nd piano) appear in the catalogue of the Bibliothèque nationale de France:
http://catalogue.bnf.fr (http://catalogue.bnf.fr)
The third also in the 2 pianos reduction. I didn't find the third..
Thanks!
The recording of Piano Cncerto No. 2 seems to have disappeared. Could someone re-upload it?
It's on YouTube, but with horrible acustics, do you really want this?
I think Mark's upload was in better sound IIRC. But if Mark could upload it again, I for one would be most grateful. The YouTube sound is pretty awful.
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The score of the first two piano concerto (with orchestra or 2nd piano) appear in the catalogue of the Bibliothèque nationale de France:
http://catalogue.bnf.fr
The third also in the 2 pianos reduction. I didn't find the third..
The catalogue information supplied is not detailed enough to determine whether the scores of PCs 1 & 2 are full score (perhaps with parts) or merely 2-piano reductions. Accordingly, I have fired off an enquiry to BNF. It is the 4th PC that they have in 2-piano reduction only (this is clearly specified in the catalogue data). I could not find any record of No. 3.
According to BNF there was a recording of the first piano concerto in 78-rpm days, with Peter Wallfisch (1924-93) piano? (http://catalogue.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb37913604v (http://catalogue.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb37913604v))
(From http://catalogue.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb37913601t (http://catalogue.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb37913601t) Wallfisch & Cantrell may have recorded one of the other Bériot concertos too?)
I've been away for a few weeks, so my apologies for not doing this earlier, but I've restored my recording of de Bériot's 2nd Piano Concerto to the Downloads board here (http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php/topic,6377.0.html). The sound does leave something to be desired, I'm afraid.
Thanks, Mark :-)
The Bériot Piano Concerto is also mentioned in here. As sometimes in those days, orchestras were not named
http://oldmusicautographs.blogspot.ch/2012/01/charles-wilfrid-de-beriot-scion-of.html
The BNF has replied to the effect that they do not have full scores of any of de Beriot's PCs. The Ricardo Vines Collection at the University of Colorado has the 2-piano scores of all 4 of de Beriot's concertos but no orchestral material. So we are still searching.
Hrm. By the way, apparently U. Colorado at Boulder, and a couple of other libraries, also do have the 2-piano reduction of the Op.46 2nd concerto, so it may be possible to borrow them without paying BNF. Still, at the moment I'm coming up nil on the orchestral material. The conductor or someone associated with the orchestra in the recording probably knew, but - probably deceased...
Quoteapparently U. Colorado at Boulder, and a couple of other libraries, also do have the 2-piano reduction of the Op.46 2nd concerto
I know that. I said above that U. of Colorado has 2-piano scores of ALL 4 of the concerti. It's the orchestral material that is missing - as is so often the case. In fact Boulder has two copies of No. 2, both of the 2-piano score. Peter Wallfisch, the pianist on the YouTube recording, was Raphael Wallfisch's father. I don't know Raphael personally. but Simon Callaghan does, so I have asked him to enquire if he (Raphael) has any clues.
Sorry :(
Are there any good Bériot biographies out there?
After several years, I wonder if anyone has managed to locate the full scores of piano concertos 1.3.&4. It would be very useful if they have.
I have had no luck to date, I'm afraid. You omit PC2 - does that mean the full score of that work has been located?
There was an ancient recording of No.2 on youtube so assumed the score was extant. Bit sloppy I know
I haven't been able to find it, I'm afraid.
Giles: "score" in the sense of "score and parts or at least just parts" were extant - a conductor could do with a very well-marked reduction, I imagine. (assuming conductor, too. ... someone sometime is going to have to explain to me -- sometime -- whether conductorless orchestras always use scores or sometimes everyone just parts... :) )
Agreed, Eric. But, although I have made extensive enquiries, I have not been able to locate either full score or orchestral parts of any of the PCs. They must have existed at one time of course and, using a 2-piano score, could probably be reconstructed from the recordings (at least in the case of 2 - on YouTube - and possibly 1 - if BnF catalogue is correct and they have it). This, however, would be a labour of love for someone.
Understood, sorry!