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The Music => Composers & Music => Topic started by: Rob H on Monday 14 May 2012, 09:46

Title: need help with French choral
Post by: Rob H on Monday 14 May 2012, 09:46
Hi, a English friend of mine conducts and amateur choir in Paris and wants to give them some good, second empire sacred choral music to sing in French and he can't find anything. He has tried Saint-Saens and Massenet and wasn't impressed, hates Gounod and generally finds that normally good composers go to pieces with sacred choral music - bombastic, heavy-handed and unimaginative. Does anyone have any suggestions, please?
Thank-you
Title: Re: need help with French choral
Post by: mikehopf on Monday 14 May 2012, 10:34
Try the sacred music of Paladilhe.
Title: Re: need help with French choral
Post by: Mark Thomas on Monday 14 May 2012, 10:35
Cesar Franck?
Title: Re: need help with French choral
Post by: reiger on Monday 14 May 2012, 17:42
Perhaps Faure's Cantique de Jean Racine?
Title: Re: need help with French choral
Post by: Ser Amantio di Nicolao on Monday 14 May 2012, 18:52
Quote from: reiger on Monday 14 May 2012, 17:42
Perhaps Faure's Cantique de Jean Racine?

This is quite good - I've sung it twice in my choral career.  It's fairly simple, quite lovely, and relatively easy to pull off with an organ.
Title: Re: need help with French choral
Post by: Rob H on Monday 14 May 2012, 21:31
Thanks for the help so far. I mentioned the Faure but this is a bit late - he is thinking further back, maybe mid 19th century. I found a piece by Pierne which I'm passing on to him but even that is more third republic than second empire.
Title: Re: need help with French choral
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 14 May 2012, 22:19
Quote from: hammyplay on Monday 14 May 2012, 21:31
Thanks for the help so far. I mentioned the Faure but this is a bit late - he is thinking further back, maybe mid 19th century.

A bit late? As I understand it, the Second Empire lasted between 1852 and 1870. Fauré's Cantique de Racine would therefore fit perfectly as was written in 1864-5...
Title: Re: need help with French choral
Post by: dafrieze on Tuesday 15 May 2012, 00:14
Berlioz wrote a number of wonderful little choral pieces.  "Le ballet des ombres" is a terrific piece for a decent amateur chorus - challenging but very effective.
Title: Re: need help with French choral
Post by: reiger on Tuesday 15 May 2012, 01:26
Quote from: dafrieze on Tuesday 15 May 2012, 00:14
Berlioz wrote a number of wonderful little choral pieces.  "Le ballet des ombres" is a terrific piece for a decent amateur chorus - challenging but very effective.

Good suggestion... Hélène is another Berlioz piece that might work well.
Title: Re: need help with French choral
Post by: Rob H on Tuesday 15 May 2012, 09:52
Whoops, I never checked the date of The Faure. However I think this is one that he has done. I'll mention the Berlioz to him but he was specifically asking me for sacred choral works not secular. Thanks again