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Waitwaitwaitwaitholdit. If composers born as late as 1860 are allowed into the mix... I deliberately didn't even look at some composers as possibilities for the sin of being born in the 1850s.
Also, Gernsheim's symphonies are not all entirely non-programmatic, so out he drops, tsk. (That may explain why Klughardt didn't come up either.)
I think Woyrsch's later symphonies may incorporate elements of both the Brahms and other traditions? (or is making your 6th symphony a Sinfonia sacra just a more liturgical extension of Beethoven 9?)

Possibly better example: H Grädener's symphony no.2 (1914, age 70).

are we referring, since we know little about these composers' actual symphonies for the most part, to their nationality, to their preference or lack thereof for non-programmatic symphonism , or ?

Just found that disc on Amazon myself. -and that's what I meant by wood brass gut piano, yes (borrowing the nickname of a work by Vagn Holmboe...)

The score and parts are at IMSLP, too (where alternate instrumentations including common garden piano quintet and trae-messing-tarm-klaver (sorry wood, brass, string, piano) options are noted.)

This isn't a new broadcast, but I don't think it's been mentioned here before, nor to my knowledge has this work yet received a commercial recording (unlike the quintet in D from 1926 on Hanssler.)
See Das Else Ensemble spielt Kahns Quintett op54.

Napravnik was a near-contemporary too . Maybe the later symphonies of Major and Mihalovich, too.

Worldcat also lists a recording by Svetlanov and Grach of two sonatinas for violin and piano (by Svetlanov? composed apparently 1948-9, and available also on YouTube. Grach btw was born 1930 and is apparently still alive?...)

May I hope that's a typo for 2026, though your last statement is unfortunately still true

I see, and their 6 new releases of the month are out at that (of which this is no.2 in order of physical placement). Anyhow, good news! (Ah, yep, says Recording: Gewandhaus Leipzig..." on the back label from the jpc site. Hrm, recorded just under 2 years before release- arguably not bad in general, and I don't mean just for cpo.)

I am assuming "Suite für Violoncello G-Dur" is with orchestra, not solo. Btw the op.85 organ works have been uploaded in typeset at IMSLP as have the published parts of, I think, both of his 2 published string quartets... (nope, just no.2. Interesting that no.1 in A is op.83- and Gernsheim's no.5 is in A, op.83... the Rieter-Biedermann 1905 parts of Thieriot's op.83 are at the (central) library @ Zürich whose library catalog doesn't give much information about them.)

I don't recall anyone here ever reviewing that Gernsheim CD. I listened to the first movement of that E-flat quintet (so far) and was very impressed (though its close connection to late Brahms could be what you're referring to, for all I know...) That said, looking forward to giving the Thieriot work a try.

Thanks for the correction!!

Apparently his eldest son went and entered just that profession...

My mistake, but still, the part of the sentence in which Leonid (Sabaneyeff) describes Triodin as distinctly weaker than those composers makes it still seem less promising in context.--
Eric