The ballade for horn (1928) has been broadcast over BBC. There the horn part has been described as played by Peter Sivanič , a member of the Bratislava Wind Octet, not Peter Slavik?
You are quite right, eschiss1. I was trying to read fine print in dim light when I came up with that misspelling. I have two other works of Suchon's from the same concert. Anyone interested?
Yes, I'm interested, based on the two you already uploaded!
Dear Latvian: Can you put Frantisek Babusek's Piano Concerto up, they always cut off the end on Musica Slovaca. Thank you.
QuoteDear Latvian: Can you put Frantisek Babusek's Piano Concerto up, they always cut off the end on Musica Slovaca. Thank you.
Arbuckle -- I would love to... if I had it. Unfortunately, I don't. Please do ask if there's anything else you think (or hope) I may have!
Also re Jàn Zimmer besides the East-Central Europe/Balkan symphonies discography (http://www.musicweb-international.com/Balkan_discography/ECE-Balkan_Symphonies2.htm), there is a List of works by Zimmer (http://www.hc.sk/src/skladatel_diela.php?oid=990&lg=sk). I have several of the works listed (symphonies 1-3, 5-11, piano concerto 5, I think. Hope to hear others.)
What is your opinion of Zimmer's music, Eric?
Back in 1987, Fanfare Magazine published a couple of articles by John H. Yoell (Focus on Slovak Discography, parts I and II). They appeared in Fanfare's Volume 11,nos. 1 and 2.
Those who can access Fanfare's Internet files may want to have a look at them. There's lots of "unsung" Slovak composers mentioned, such as Tibor Freso,Milan Novak, Jozef Malovec, Ivan Parik or Tadeas Salva, among many others.
I gather the Eugen Suchoň piano quartet is from around 1933. The movements are Allegro moderato , Allegro molto and Lento (according to Czech Archives APF.)
As to Zimmer's music belatedly responding, I like it, though I've only heard - well, maybe ten works of his at most and one of them (symphony no.10 ) not characteristic; he seems to have been prolific (film music, symphonies, concertos, quartets, other works- there's a worklist online though not that much other information...). The style of the later symphonies remind me sometimes of the more modernist side of Prokofiev, maybe (nothing specifically Prokofievish, just that general sort of style which was, I think, one of several common "styles" (not a favorite term...) in Eastern European music around that time. Hoping to hear more, though, speaking for myself of course.
Czech radio lists a few works of his on tape (e.g. piano concerto 1) that I haven't heard, maybe one of their several streaming classical stations will broadcast them some point in the nearish future. Not sure that answers the question...
My gratitude to member Sicmu for the Schneider-Trnavský Symphony is unbounded! About ten years ago I heard the Dumka and Dance of this composer, and was very favourably impressed. But - until now - I could discover nothing more of his. So, imagine my joy at finding the Symphony here! And it really exceeds my expectations in all respects. What a wonderful orchestrator this composer was; what an altogether wonderful work! He deserves to be far more widely known and performed.
I agree completely about the excellence of Schneider-Trnavsky's Symphony. I'd never heard his name until Sicmu's upload appeared, but have enjoyed this music greatly.
Yes, me too. Schneider-Trnavsky's Symphony is quite beautiful and romantic work.
Also I'd never heard his name until then. But one of my wonderful found in last year ;D
So I will upload the rest of this 2 LP set soon ( orchestral, choral and chamber works).
I've posted Symphony 1 by Jozef Grešák in the Slovak Downloads section.
(http://www.hc.sk/foto/gresak_jozef.jpg)
I've found a description of him below, a small English at the end of some monograph that was in a language I could not fathom.
Jozef Grešák – original personality of the Slovak music of the 20th century
Summary
Jozef Gresak (1907 – 1987) belongs to the most original Slovak music composers
of the 20th century. Student of Frano Dostalik (who was student of Leos Janacek) was
basically autodidact in music composition. The influence of Leos Janacek can be seen in his
unordinary music expression. He has reached his specific music expression with the deep
study of east Slovakian folk music sources. This specific music expression has been shown
especially in organizing the music material at that time. He has achieved a lot of composition
success throughout the sixties. In the seventies, the influence of L. Janacek, B. Bartokand A. Webern
can be seen. His compostion is falling to be little unknown nowadays.
There is also another description of him from the Proceedings of the !988 Janaceck conference in Google books. Here is a link:
http://tinyurl.com/7kscbs2
(http://tinyurl.com/7kscbs2)
Quote from: Sicmu on Wednesday 08 February 2012, 13:30
So I will upload the rest of this 2 LP set soon ( orchestral, choral and chamber works).
Thank you so much, member Sicmu! A joyful day!
Quote from: jowcol on Friday 10 February 2012, 14:04
I've posted Symphony 1 by Jozef Grešák in the Slovak Downloads section.
(http://www.hc.sk/foto/gresak_jozef.jpg)
I've found a description of him below, a small English at the end of some monograph that was in a language I could not fathom.
Jozef Grešák – original personality of the Slovak music of the 20th century
Summary
Jozef Gresak (1907 – 1987) belongs to the most original Slovak music composers
of the 20th century. Student of Frano Dostalik (who was student of Leos Janacek) was
basically autodidact in music composition. The influence of Leos Janacek can be seen in his
unordinary music expression. He has reached his specific music expression with the deep
study of east Slovakian folk music sources. This specific music expression has been shown
especially in organizing the music material at that time. He has achieved a lot of composition
success throughout the sixties. In the seventies, the influence of L. Janacek, B. Bartokand A. Webern
can be seen. His compostion is falling to be little unknown nowadays.
There is also another description of him from the Proceedings of the !988 Janaceck conference in Google books. Here is a link:
http://tinyurl.com/7kscbs2
(http://tinyurl.com/7kscbs2)
I cannot find this symphony in the download section. Wii someone please help? Thanks.
Sorry. I may need to slow down. :-[
I've posted the link in the downloads section-- you should see it as soon as it approved.
Quote from: jowcol on Saturday 11 February 2012, 13:13
Sorry. I may need to slow down. :-[
I've posted the link in the downloads section-- you should see it as soon as it approved.
Thanks for your uploads.
Frank
Quote from: eschiss1 on Friday 14 October 2011, 16:25
Also re Jàn Zimmer besides the East-Central Europe/Balkan symphonies discography (http://www.musicweb-international.com/Balkan_discography/ECE-Balkan_Symphonies2.htm), there is a List of works by Zimmer (http://www.hc.sk/src/skladatel_diela.php?oid=990&lg=sk). I have several of the works listed (symphonies 1-3, 5-11, piano concerto 5, I think. Hope to hear others.)
I have Zimmer's Piano Concertos 1 and 3-- I hope to have them up in a few days.
thanks- of his piano concertos I only have his 5th (and many of his symphonies, and that would be it...)
Quote from: eschiss1 on Monday 13 February 2012, 05:59
thanks- of his piano concertos I only have his 5th (and many of his symphonies, and that would be it...)
I've posted 1 and 3-- you should be able to see them after they are approved. Let me know if you have any trouble with them.
Hi jowcol,
thank you for the pf ctos 1 and 3 by Jan Zimmer. So far I have had nos 4, 5 and 6.
now only no. 2 is unknown to me. Perhaps you also have this one?
Quote from: markniew on Monday 13 February 2012, 20:50
Hi jowcol,
thank you for the pf ctos 1 and 3 by Jan Zimmer. So far I have had nos 4, 5 and 6.
now only no. 2 is unknown to me. Perhaps you also have this one?
I am afraid I don't.
According to a Google cache of Rozhlas.cz/archivy, the year of the Rajter recording they have of the Zimmer piano concerto no.1 is 1973, but don't know about the Holoubek (Holoubeck?) one... Thanks! (Andante con moto/Adagio/Allegretto capriccioso.)
Hrm. While I think I was wrong about only one of his symphonies having appeared on LP- the 7th seems to have also- new recordings would be good, in my honest opinion, and I shouldn't mind hearing the chamber, organ and piano works I see listed besides; I become curious...
Eric
Quote from: eschiss1 on Wednesday 07 December 2011, 19:14
I gather the Eugen Suchoň piano quartet is from around 1933. The movements are Allegro moderato , Allegro molto and Lento (according to Czech Archives APF.)
Yes, and something rather odd is that it is - mistakenly - listed both in
Grove's Dictionary and in the
Oxford Dictionary of Music as a pianoforte
quintet. I wonder how that came about?
I have just realised that the Psalm of the Carpathian Country by Eugen Suchon uploaded by Elroel had already been uploaded by Sicmu on 2nd August of last year.
Quote from: Dundonnell on Wednesday 09 May 2012, 02:31
I have just realised that the Psalm of the Carpathian Country by Eugen Suchon uploaded by Elroel had already been uploaded by Sicmu on 2nd August of last year.
Yes, indeed, however the performance seems to be a different one (Janko Blaho as soloist in Sicmu's version, Vilém Přibyl in Elroel's upload). Obviously the piece has been brought out on LP at least twice!
The Symphonies of Ladislav Burlas
(http://img.fdb.cz/obrazky/1d7785d605b31abc28491d8ce5234d.jpg)
After posting a couple of Czech works, it's only fair that I add some Slovenian. I particularly like the second symphony.
1-3: Symphony 1
"To Meet Man" Words from the poem by J. Kostra
Perf unknown
4-6: Symphony 2
Slovak Philharmonic Orchestra
Bystrik Rezucha, Conductor
From the collection of Karl Miller
I've found a bit of random biographical information in English- I'm curious if any of you can dig up more.
Burlas, Ladislav, Slovak composer and musicologist; b. Trnava, April 3, 1927. He first studied music with Mikulás Schneider-Trnavsky, and then went to Bratislava to pursue training in philosophy, history, and musicology at the Comenius Univ. (1946–51). He concurrently studied composition with Alexander Moyzes at the Cons., and subsequently at the Academy of Music and Drama (1951–55). He later was awarded his C.Sc. degree (1960) and his Dr.Sc. degree (1985). From 1951 he taught in Bratislava at the Teachers' Training Coll., the Comenius Univ., and the Academy of Music and Drama. From 1960 to 1988 he also was active with the Slovak Academy of Sciences, and from 1966 he served as senior lecturer in music theory at the Prague Academy of Music. In 1990 he became a lecturer in the faculty of philosophy in Bratislava, and was named a prof, in 1993. Among his writings are books on J.L. Bella (1953), Alexander Moyzes (1956), contemporary music theory (1978), and the theory of music education (1997). In 1968 and 1980 he won prizes of the Union of Slovak Composers, in 1985 he won the prize of the Ministry of Culture, and in 1988 he won the National Prize of the Slovak Republic.
Read more: Burlas, Ladislav - Music, Slovak, Academy, and Bratislava - JRank Articles
http://encyclopedia.jrank.org/articles/pages/1404/Burlas-Ladislav.html#ixzz1v9agZsX2 (http://encyclopedia.jrank.org/articles/pages/1404/Burlas-Ladislav.html#ixzz1v9agZsX2)
Thanks to jowcol for this Burlas upload! Burlas is, of course, Slovak and not Slovene. An easy confusion indeed! Both countries have no common boundary, their languages are not really mutually intelligible and have a different tonality, yet one has to be "initiated" to tell Slovenska filharmonija (Slovenian Philharmonic) from Slovenská filharmónia (Slovak Philharmonic).
Here are a few more details I found on the Hudobné centrum website about the two symphonies.
Symphony No. 1 was composed in 1984. Its original title is "Stretnúť človeka". The performers for the premiere, who may or may not be the same as in Karl Miller's recording, were the following:
Viktória Stracenská (mezzosoprán), Pavol Mauréry (barytón), Slovenský filharmonický zbor, Slovenská filharmónia / Bystrík Režucha
Symphony No. 2 was completed in 1986. The four parts bear the following tempo indications:
Larghetto; allegro alla breve - Sostenuto - Allegro - Allegro con brio
Quote from: ttle on Friday 18 May 2012, 07:22
Thanks to jowcol for this Burlas upload! Burlas is, of course, Slovak and not Slovene. An easy confusion indeed! Both countries have no common boundary, their languages are not really mutually intelligible and have a different tonality, yet one has to be "initiated" to tell Slovenska filharmonija (Slovenian Philharmonic) from Slovenská filharmónia (Slovak Philharmonic).
Here are a few more details I found on the Hudobné centrum website about the two symphonies.
Symphony No. 1 was composed in 1984. Its original title is "Stretnúť človeka". The performers for the premiere, who may or may not be the same as in Karl Miller's recording, were the following:
Viktória Stracenská (mezzosoprán), Pavol Mauréry (barytón), Slovenský filharmonický zbor, Slovenská filharmónia / Bystrík Režucha
Symphony No. 2 was completed in 1986. The four parts bear the following tempo indications:
Larghetto; allegro alla breve - Sostenuto - Allegro - Allegro con brio
Thanks for the educational input on my slip of terminology-- and the details on the Burlas!. I'll add them to the downloads page.
, and the details on the two works. I'll pose
Birch Trees, by Stefan Nemeth-Samorinsky
(http://www.hc.sk/foto/nemeth_samorinsky.jpg)
Oops! I posted this in the SLOVAKIAN downloads folder yesterday.
A Symphonic Poem
Slovak Radio Symphony Orchestra in Bratislava
Oliver Dohnanyi, Conductor
(BBC Broadcast, possibly Dec 14, 2009)
I've not been able to dig much on on the composer, but some of your out there are better than Google, and I'd love to see what you come up with.
A sketchy, machine translated bio:
Štefan Németh-Šamorín
(29 Šamorín 9th 1896 - 31 1st 1975 Bratislava)
Classical music: composition, choral conducting
1906 - 1914 High School for the Poor Clares convent, while municipal music school in Bratislava (piano - Alexander Albrecht, playing the violin - Vilhelm Antalffy)
1908 - 1912 violinist City Symphony Orchestra (conductor Eugen Kossow) and also member of the Boys' Choir (Feliciano Mócik) with whom he performed well in the Church Music Society - Kirchenmusikverein - at St. Martin (Eugene Kossow)
1914 Music University in Budapest (piano - Bela Bartok, playing the organ - Dezső Antalffy-Zsiross)
1915 had to enlist as an officer aspirant to the front
After returning from the war he studied at the Academy of Music School
1921 he studied piano and organ (Aladár Zalánffi) a study of the composition (Leo Weiner)
Huge thanks to Amphissa for the upload of eight symphonies by Jan Zimmer :)
Amphissa- I recall reading on a Slovak site, I think, that one of the later Zimmer symphonies made LP at one point- (no.7?) - but it's good to have them. I only have tempo markings for two or three of them (I already have the broadcasts and didn't download yours- if yours have them I missed them...) They announced the movements during the broadcast of symphonies 7 and 9 on Slovak Radio a few days ago but I didn't quite catch that (I hope someone taped that and will upload it- it sounded like a new performance, not Thrlik's 7 and Lenard's 9- I didn't catch all of it either :( ... was good though, no surprise.) -
symphony 1:
*Andante sostenuto - Allegro con brio
*Adagio - Scherzo
*Allegro agitato
9 I think is
*Adagio - Allegro con brio
*Scherzo ?
*Adagio
*Vivace
but I'm not sure. This sounded like one of the movement listings on the broadcast (and since they were referring to a 4-movement work, which 7 isn't, that would apply to 9.)
Piano Concerto 1: (from APF, which has a different performance also with the composer as pianist)
*Andante con moto- Allegro vivace
*Adagio
*Allegretto capriccioso - Andante
If Rozhlas.sk - the Slovak Radio- has an Archive search service like Czech radio does- then more information may not be hard to find, since I found the listing for concerto 1 from the Czech APF - the Slovak APF may have more.
Amphissa! Oh, wow! All these Zimmer symphonies!! You are a wonder! THANKS!! :D
Yes, marvellous. There seems to be a problem with number 3, however. I get a message telling me that the server cannot be found. Could you check it out please? Best to all.
The link seems to be working for me and there have been 11 downloads so far. Maybe it was just a temporary glitch when you were trying to download. Could you try again? If it is still not working for you, I'll re-post.
Thanks for being willing to deal with this. The problem was exceeding subtle. If you look at the URLs for the various Zimmer symphonies you posted you will see that the http at the start of the URL for symphony 3 is preceded by a period. The others are not. My Mac choked on that mysterious little dot and refused to go look for the server. I pasted it into my browser absent the dot and had no problem. These are strange things, these computers and their whims.
Thanks for catching that curious error in the URL. I'm not sure how it got there, but I've removed it. So now the URL is correct.
A few odds and ends I'm trying to catch up on: Does anybody have the movement titles for the Schneider-Trnavsky symphony?
Here you are:
Mikuláš Schneider-Trnavský
1881–1958
Symphony in E Minor "Remembrance"
Composed in 1955/56
I. Con movimento
II. Andante sostenuto quasi adagio
III. Scherzo
IV. Con movimento. Allegro
Gracias, señor. Any tempo indication for the Scherzo? Maybe a website where I can peruse a score?
It seems to be Allegro giusto. Actually, I just consulted the Slovak Music Information Centre. The strange thing is that the movement titles given there partly differ from then on the LP (the source I used above). According to them, it should be
I. Allegro moderato
II. Andante sostenuto quasi adagio
III. Allegro giusto. Scherzo
IV. Andante sostenuto. Allegro
THANKYOUTHANKYOUTHANKYOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll go with them. LP and CD notes are notorious for inaccuracy. Did you know the finale of Herz' PC 1 is Allegretto moderato (as it says in the liner notes) not Allegro moderato (as it says on the back of the CD and the booklet)? And don't get me started on the first LP of Anton Rubinstein's PC 1 and what key it's in, again!
*sneaks in with a brief comment about CD labels that say "Symphony no.7 in E minor" by Bruckner and similar things or even less plausible ones but this topic has been covered in detail before... :D There is a subject of real substance within it though-sometimes the difference isn't a typo, but a question of which version - by the composer, not composer vs. edited by another - someone is using. Alas though ask someone their source for anything and they take it as a personal affront. ... Shutting up.)