Unsung Composers

The Music => Composers & Music => Topic started by: Reverie on Friday 13 March 2020, 22:46

Title: Unsung extracts
Post by: Reverie on Friday 13 March 2020, 22:46
I seem to have accumalted a number of projects which are are "works in progress" but to date remain unfinished. Rather than leave them sitting on my PC for just myself to listen to I thought it only right to share them with others wishing to explore snippets of orchestral music unheard for over a hundred years.

There are four samples (each lasting about 4 minutes) from the following unsung composers:

Heinrich Esser,
Odon Mihalovich,
Ernst Rudorff
and Grzegorz Fitelberg.

What an eclectic bunch - some might say esoteric!

Anyway, have a listen. The scores are included as usual. And rest assured, one or more of these projects will eventually be completed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJJ_fsxdLlc
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Simon on Saturday 14 March 2020, 04:23
Some very mouthwatering samples I'd say! Thanks!
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: adriano on Saturday 14 March 2020, 08:16
Thanks, Reverie :-)
Fitelberg's two Symphonies are, like his three symphonic poems, great music!

You may already know there other pieces:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO_qem3sJYA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC5IO-kr2bg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5vuUCNJBuY

His symphonic poem "The Song of the Falcon" is also available on the EDA label.

... and this is a score:
https://imslp.org/wiki/Symphony_in_E_minor%2C_Op.16_(Fitelberg%2C_Gregorz)

See also:
http://www.karolszymanowski.pl/life/education-the-young-poland-movement/

Fitelberg was a friend of Szymanovsky, whose Second Symphony and First Violin Concerto he recorded in the 1950s (see a Dutton and a deleted LYS CD).
He also premiered the Second of Szymanovsky's Violin Concertos, both of which were first performed by Szymanovsky's intimate friend Pavel Kochansky. Fitelberg also orchestrated two short pieces (Nocturne and Tarantella for violin and piano) by Szymanovsky. The original version of latter two pieces are available on a gorgeous Chandos CD with Lydia Mordkovitch as a soloist - on the same disc there is also Szymanovsky's chamber masterpiece "Three Myths" and his First Violin Sonata. Their orchestrated versions are available on Naxos/Marco Polo

Fitelberg's son Jerzy (who emigrated to the USA) was also a composer. He also studied with Franz Schreker. He also made a new orchestration of Sullivan's "The Mikado"...
Chandos issued some of his chamber music on CD. His Double Concerto (for Piano and Trombone!) is available on the EDA label. He died in 1951, two yesras before his father.

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Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: tpaloj on Saturday 14 March 2020, 08:25
Great examples, thank you! Might these time codes help if added to the video's description?

Esser - Symphony in B minor [00:00]
Mihalovich - Romeo and Juliet [03:58]
Rudorff - Overture zu 'Der blonde Ekbert' [08:29]
Fitelberg - Symphony in E minor [13:08]


I can also contribute to this thread with a few "works in progress" that for some reason or another are not finished but nevertheless others wishing to explore unsung music might find interesting. Stylistically the works should be within rules of this forum even if some are a little more recent. I hope it's ok to post them here. A fair warning, these soundbites are not fully proofread or perfect sounding (synthetic voices especially)!

Arthur Friedheim's "Transitions", symphonic poem. It's a massive piece which opens very promising but it devolved less into my liking the further it got, and I don't have much motivation to continue it.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q31lwitzx0f3snh/Dorico3%20-%20Arthur%20Friedheim%20-%20Transitions%20Partitura%20-%20Flow%201.wav?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/q31lwitzx0f3snh/Dorico3%20-%20Arthur%20Friedheim%20-%20Transitions%20Partitura%20-%20Flow%201.wav?dl=0)

Ernst Linko's "Symphonie chevaleresque" and "Piano concerto no.1". I actually found out that there's a recording of Linko's symphony out there which is why I didn't continue it.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jvow5gwzgijbjsu/Dorico3%20-%20Ernst%20Linko%20-%20Kavaljeerisinfonia%20-%20Flow%201.wav?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/jvow5gwzgijbjsu/Dorico3%20-%20Ernst%20Linko%20-%20Kavaljeerisinfonia%20-%20Flow%201.wav?dl=0)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2x8sc0rz8udyhn4/Dorico3%20-%20Ernst%20Linko%20-%20Piano%20Concerto%201%20-%20Flow%201.wav?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/2x8sc0rz8udyhn4/Dorico3%20-%20Ernst%20Linko%20-%20Piano%20Concerto%201%20-%20Flow%201.wav?dl=0)

Väinö Raitio's operas "Kaksi kuningatarta" and "Lyydian kuningas". The latter work, a half-hour opera, has been recorded.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1dzl74cy20lyq2i/Dorico3%20-%20V%C3%A4in%C3%B6%20Raitio%20-%20Kaksi%20kuningatarta%2C%20partituuri%20-%20Flow%201.wav?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/1dzl74cy20lyq2i/Dorico3%20-%20V%C3%A4in%C3%B6%20Raitio%20-%20Kaksi%20kuningatarta%2C%20partituuri%20-%20Flow%201.wav?dl=0)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lsskh1p523pefsd/Dorico3%20-%20V%C3%A4in%C3%B6%20Raitio%20-%20Lyydian%20kuningas%20-%20Flow%201.wav?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/lsskh1p523pefsd/Dorico3%20-%20V%C3%A4in%C3%B6%20Raitio%20-%20Lyydian%20kuningas%20-%20Flow%201.wav?dl=0)

Richard Wetz's opera "Judith".
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rqsbbar3jkitubt/Dorico3%20-%20Richard%20Wetz%20-%20Judith%20-%20Flow%201.wav?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/rqsbbar3jkitubt/Dorico3%20-%20Richard%20Wetz%20-%20Judith%20-%20Flow%201.wav?dl=0)

Georg Andreas Henkel's "Wallenstein Overture". Reconstructed beginning from IMSLP parts. Does the full score survive I wonder?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i12s9d88d9brghb/Dorico3%20-%20Henkel%20-%20Wallenstein%20Overture%20-%20Flow%201.wav?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/i12s9d88d9brghb/Dorico3%20-%20Henkel%20-%20Wallenstein%20Overture%20-%20Flow%201.wav?dl=0)

Antoine Reicha's "Piano Concerto". Started reconstructing this from the parts way back but no need to continue since it will (has already been?) be recorded.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ypkvfrg8m31xp7d/Antoine%20Reicha%20-%20Piano%20Concerto%20-%20Flow%201.wav?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ypkvfrg8m31xp7d/Antoine%20Reicha%20-%20Piano%20Concerto%20-%20Flow%201.wav?dl=0)
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Mark Thomas on Saturday 14 March 2020, 09:44
Thanks for these, tpaloj. Can you provide a link to the Linko Symphony recording, please?
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: tpaloj on Saturday 14 March 2020, 09:49
I would if I had it – it was conducted and recorded in 1955 by Nils-Eric Fougstedt & Helsinki Radio Orchestra. It's not commercially available I don't think. Have to keep an eye out for radio programming to catch it. Details of the recording, from YLE music archives: http://www.fono.fi/KappaleenTiedot.aspx?tekija=linko+ernst&rooliText=S%c3%a4velt%c3%a4j%c3%a4&tekijarooli=b0609405-162e-4866-8562-4723f8d415fe&ID=da53c4fa-0b81-4970-ba7e-e8b0815671c6 (http://www.fono.fi/KappaleenTiedot.aspx?tekija=linko+ernst&rooliText=S%c3%a4velt%c3%a4j%c3%a4&tekijarooli=b0609405-162e-4866-8562-4723f8d415fe&ID=da53c4fa-0b81-4970-ba7e-e8b0815671c6)
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Mark Thomas on Saturday 14 March 2020, 09:56
A shame, but thanks all the same.
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 14 March 2020, 11:43
I'd really like to hear the whole of Esser's Symphony in B minor - which falls tantalisingly in the 'Dahlhaus gap' between Schumann 4 and Brahms 1.

Mihalovich's 'Romeo and Juliet' sounds rather like Wagner (he was known as a Wagnerian), although there may be some Tchaikovsky (Francesca da Rimini?) in the mix as well. Again, though, absolutely fascinating. 

Rudorff is a favourite unsung of mine. Once gain, this is really interesting music, well worth a hearing. A particular feature of his music is rhythmic ingenuity.

Fitelberg's Symphony in E minor sounds something like early Scriabin - absolutely marvellous stuff.

Thanks to Reverie for sharing these excerpts - wonderful!
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Santo Neuenwelt on Saturday 14 March 2020, 15:47
Soundbites from Ernst Rudorff's String Sextet in A Major, Op.5 can be heard here
http://www.editionsilvertrust.com/rudorff-sextet.htm

The original is for three violins, viola and two cellos an unlikely combination which certainly prevented it for gaining any traction. We have reprinted the parts to the original but also made a version for standard string sextet, i.e. 2 violins, 2 violas and 2 cellos in hopes of attracting a wider audience for this fine work.

The Sextet was recorded on MDG CD #948-1889-6 along with some other pieces for piano, his 3 Romances Op.48, Capriccio appassionato Op.49, and Six Pieces Op.52
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Reverie on Saturday 14 March 2020, 16:09
Thanks all.

tpaloj - some very interesting soundbites there. I agree with your feelings regarding pieces starting well and then fading into mediocrity.

Alan, Good summary!

The Esser symphony is very strong formally but lacks in variety of melody. But yes it's worth finishing.

Mihalovich's 'Romeo and Juliet' -  yes Wagner but Liszt too. His style is a bit rough around the edges and at times over reliant on repetition. Plenty of other scores to explore mind.

Rudorff - very uplifting opening I think and some cracking melodies.

Fitelberg - I didn't think of Scriabin but now you mention it. It's a little bit manic at times. He sometimes asks for ffff (ear drum blasting) However, it's powerful stuff even in the quieter passages.

Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 14 March 2020, 18:05
Again, Reverie, I'm extremely grateful to you.
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Christopher on Monday 16 March 2020, 12:42
Quote from: hadrianus on Saturday 14 March 2020, 08:16
Thanks, Reverie :-)
Fitelberg's two Symphonies are, like his three symphonic poems, great music!

You may already know there other pieces:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO_qem3sJYA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC5IO-kr2bg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5vuUCNJBuY



Thanks for these links Hadrianus.  With regard to the last one, the labelling on the youtube page says that this piece (Nocturne for orchestra) is by Jerzy Fitelberg (Grzegorz's son) - who lived 1903-1951.
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Christopher on Monday 16 March 2020, 13:20
Quote from: hadrianus on Saturday 14 March 2020, 08:16
Thanks, Reverie :-)
Fitelberg's two Symphonies are, like his three symphonic poems, great music!

Are these recorded?  I can't find them on amazon or youtube...
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 16 March 2020, 16:32
One of Mike Herman's exhaustive discographies over at MusicWeb indicates that the elder Fitelberg's two symphonies have never been recorded:
http://www.musicweb-international.com/Ntl_discogs/Balkan_symphonies/ECE_Balkan_Symphonies.htm
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: adriano on Monday 16 March 2020, 18:08
Yes, Christopher and Alan, unfortunately :-(
I have persued the scores years ago.

There is also some of Fitelberg's chamber music on CD:
https://www.clicmusique.com/grzegorz-fitelberg-lieder-trio-pour-piano-biegas-makowska-mokrus-kurzac-p-95263.html?language=en&osCsid=cip4nldk2gkjmmfh4fvume2ru1

Since now in Poland there is quite a revival of unsung Polish composers on CD, let's hope to get those Symphonies one day...
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Reverie on Wednesday 01 April 2020, 23:43
Some more extracts to listen to in these troubled times.

Eugenio Pirani
Witold Maliszewski
Aleksandr Tiniakov
& Edgar Stillman Kelley

There is a short visual glitch in the first extract lasting about 20 seconds or so. I blame it on the Corona Virus!

I know very little of Tiniakov. I wonder if anyone can do some more thorough research on him. Surely he must have composed a lot more than this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxsvhrduCg4&t=22s
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 02 April 2020, 03:28
Tinyakov: IMSLP page (https://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Tinyakov,_Aleksandr) ; List of works (https://imslp.org/wiki/List_of_works_by_Aleksandr_Tinyakov) ; Wikipedia page in Russian (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A2%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%8F%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2,_%D0%90%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%81%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4%D1%80_%D0%98%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87). Translating the latter however one sees no mention of any music, so I wonder if we're talking about a different Tiniakov than the 1886-1934 poet...

Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: tpaloj on Thursday 02 April 2020, 08:03
Thank you Reverie! Do you use any OCR (image recognition) methods to produce these extracts or are you creating them manually?
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Reverie on Thursday 02 April 2020, 09:00
All manually. It can be painstaking but at the same time I'm learning quite a bit about orchestration.
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: dhibbard on Thursday 02 April 2020, 15:53
Aleksandr Tiniakov:   I can't find any information on him.. Ho/Feofanov does not list him anywhere.   
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 02 April 2020, 17:43
Try IMSLP...
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 02 April 2020, 17:46
Info on Eugenio di Pirani here:
https://etudemagazine.com/etude/1915/01/well-known-composers-of-to-day-eugenio-di-pirani.html
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: adt on Friday 17 April 2020, 00:50
Here's an extract from Rudolph Bergh's Tragische-Sinfonie (1905). I've completed the first movement's exposition in Sibelius/Note Performer.

I'd like to get some opinions from the community: is this worth continuing?

https://mega.nz/file/99EyXaaL#4jhEB5W_f4MWlX8wNTmXZSyYveCAA0zVv8LY0xfpWs8
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 17 April 2020, 10:00
An unequivocal yes! Please continue! This is very exciting music, well worth exploring further.
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 17 April 2020, 11:56
Depending on how much you finish of the Bergh, please consider linking it on the IMSLP page (there's a line one can add called "NCRecordings" where one can link offsite freely available recordings) so people there can hear it as well as see the piece? Thanks :)
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: tpaloj on Sunday 19 April 2020, 11:44
Thank you for the Bergh extract, it's a wonderful start.

This Scherzo is from Friedrich Markull's Symphony. His name is mentioned in the following article on raff.org about having possibly submitted this symphony to the Vienna 1862 symphony competition. The manuscript score is digitized by BSB.
http://www.raff.org/resource/krueck/vienna.htm (http://www.raff.org/resource/krueck/vienna.htm)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/f5hox7rhq0jlcsr/Friedrich%20Markull%20-%20Symphony%2C%20III%20Scherzo%20%28dorico%20np3%29.mp3?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/f5hox7rhq0jlcsr/Friedrich%20Markull%20-%20Symphony%2C%20III%20Scherzo%20%28dorico%20np3%29.mp3?dl=0)

The rest of the work? Not too much stuck out after skimming through the score. It seems like a perfectly passable Symphony in its own right. I liked the trio of this scherzo, and with the manuscript being so neatly written it was a pleasure to reproduce the movement. There's plenty of repeats but I included everything nonetheless.
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 19 April 2020, 17:34
The Scherzo from Markull's Symphony is very attractive - thank you! Apparently he wrote two symphonies: No.1 in D major and No.2 in C minor. I'm assuming this Scherzo is from the latter...
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: tpaloj on Sunday 19 April 2020, 17:58
Right, it's the c-minor :) Perhaps someone should record it: BSB also has a set of manuscript parts which are very neatly written and look fit for performance as is.
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Wheesht on Monday 01 June 2020, 08:57
A Gavotte by Eugenio di Pirani can be found in a 1910 recording on gramofon online (https://gramofononline.hu/de/index.php?playradio=p%3D0%26sf%3D0%26q%3DSusanne%2520Re%25C3%25A9%2C%2520Louis%2520R%25C3%25A9e%2520%28zongora%29&autoplay=1), an interesting source of very early audio documents from Hungary – played by the husband and wife piano duo Louis and Susanne Rée, whom I mentioned here on UC (http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php/topic,4897.msg52883.html#msg52883) six years ago.
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: dhibbard on Monday 01 June 2020, 16:22
yes the OCR programs and photo scanner do not do well with Sibelius... has to be done manually.
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Reverie on Friday 12 June 2020, 22:12
PART THREE

Another four extracts.

Georg Goltermann (1824-1898) Festpiel Overture
Bernhard Scholz (1835-1916) Symphony No1 1st mov
Paul Scheinpflug (1875-1937) Lustspiel Overture

and the best till last. The great  Heinrich Reuss (1855-1910)  Symphony No1 1st mov

...............................................

As ever please feel free to add to this thread with pertinent comments. They will be much appreciated.

CLICK HERE:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J92b1RdA0q4

Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: dhibbard on Saturday 13 June 2020, 13:45
Thank you.
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: tpaloj on Monday 15 June 2020, 05:57
Thank you again Reverie. Your extracts are always impeccably proofread and the sound quality is superb (all things considered, given the format). I appreciate the Scholz extract, it's good to hear more of his music. As time allows, I'm typing up his PC in D from 1897 (very slowly!). Here's some timecodes to help navigating the video:

Georg Goltermann [00:00]
Bernhard Scholz [04:40]
Paul Scheinpflug [09:22]
Heinrich Reuss [12:55]


To contribute here, my "Hiller appreciation month" continues with an upload of his early work "Overture to Faust", composed and premiered in 1831. The 3 minute introduction feels to me stilted and awkward, but the rest of the overture is properly brassy and exciting – less poetic than bombastic, admittedly. With the few Hiller recordings there are, it's difficult to chart his development as a composer and a get a good feel for his style, but perhaps to that end this extract showcasing his early music can be of interest to someone.

https://youtu.be/qkjwNKIDMaM (https://youtu.be/qkjwNKIDMaM)
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Reverie on Wednesday 17 June 2020, 15:59
And thank you tpaloj

Yes the Hiller adagio/intro is perhaps a little too lengthy. But my when it gets moving it is delightful and the ending quite superb. Great work in bringing this back to life! Thank you.
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 17 June 2020, 22:43
I'm very taken with Scholz's Symphony No.1 in B flat - very powerful stuff, with attractive lyrical passages too. Evidently the work dates from around 1883, which makes it contemporary with Brahms 3.

Thanks for this intriguing excerpt!
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Mark Thomas on Thursday 18 June 2020, 12:37
Thanks to both Reverie and tpaloj for these latest additions to the growing list of well-crafted and listenable electronic realisations. They're a wonderful way of getting to know works which have little prospect of being performed by a "real" orchestra any time soon.  Goltermann's Overture struck me as owing more than a little to Raff, his near contemporary and fellow Frankfurt resident, whereas I too was struck by the Brahmsian cast of the opening of Scholz's Symphony. I wasn't too impressed by his Piano Concerto released a couple of years ago by Hyperion, but this promises to be much stronger fare and I'd love to hear more. Scheinpflug's Overture sounds like so many late romantic German "jolly" Overtures (all those Lustige/Heitere-ouvertüren). Fine, but nothing too remarkable. Prinz Reuß's Symphony seems rather an old-fashioned work for its 1890s publication date, but maybe it was written a lot earlier. That said, most of his music I've heard could have been written 30 years earlier than it was. Hiller's Faust Overture I thought another good piece by him, to add to the fine Symphony in C major posted earlier. If that latter piece is indeed also from the 1830s, it's easy to see why the young Hiller was regarded as such a major talent by the likes of Schumann.
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 18 June 2020, 17:10
I'd certainly like to hear more of Scholz's 1st Symphony. Any chance? (Hint, hint!)
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Reverie on Thursday 18 June 2020, 19:17
Alan I have various "irons in the furnace" some of which I'd like to complete. The Scholz is on the current short list  :)
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Mark Thomas on Thursday 18 June 2020, 20:24
That's great news - it's in with a chance!
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 18 June 2020, 22:08
Oh, that's great news. The Scholz struck me as coming (stylistically) somewhere between Brahms and Bruch - rather a delicious area, I'd say!

Actually, I'm just listening back to the two pieces by Scholz on Hyperion RPC 76, i.e the Piano Concerto and Capriccio. Both strike me as thoroughly entertaining and worthwhile discoveries - much better than I had remembered, in fact.
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 18 June 2020, 23:04
don't forget Matesic's performance of his string quartet op.46 (https://imslp.org/wiki/String_Quartet_No.1%2C_Op.46_(Scholz%2C_Bernhard)).
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Mark Thomas on Friday 19 June 2020, 07:27
Thanks, Eric, I had forgotten that.
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 19 June 2020, 07:31
Indeed. Must listen!
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 19 June 2020, 07:33
...gorgeous beginning. Very 'gemütlich'.
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: tpaloj on Friday 25 September 2020, 20:12
Many here are probably aware that Liszt's SP Les preludes has its origins in 'Les quatre élémens', a set of four pieces for piano and men's chorus composed in the 1840s. Less known might be the fact that these pieces were also orchestrated by Liszt's assistant August Conradi. The scope of Liszt's involvement in these arrangements is unclear, besides the fact that many of his corrections appear in Conradi's earlier drafts of these works. The manuscripts are essentially complete, just missing some final details. The orchestrations were never performed or published, however.

I have recreated 'Les astres': The Stars (corresponding to "Fire" of the four classical elements), the final piece of the set. Conradi's straightforward orchestration is maybe not too important in itself, but I find the piece worthy and very 'Lisztian': harmonious, grandiose, mysterious. I wanted to give you all a chance to enjoy it, too.

https://youtu.be/st0LM75_Xl8 (https://youtu.be/st0LM75_Xl8)
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Mark Thomas on Friday 25 September 2020, 22:19
It's really fascinating to hear this proto-Les Preludes. Thanks so much for the opportunity.
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Reverie on Friday 25 September 2020, 22:36
Thanks for this. Great stuff.

Composition year 1848 !!

It's inspired me to revisit some of Liszt's huge opus.

Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: tpaloj on Saturday 31 October 2020, 15:51
A short extract from the Norwegian composer Gerhard Schjelderup's prelude to "Die scharlachrote Blume". Following the footsteps of Wagner, he composed around 10 large-scale operas but apparently was never very successful. "Die scharlachrote Blume", an opera in three acts from 1913 is based on Orczy's famous novel Scarlet Pimpernel. Schjelderup's autograph full score looks thick and fierce. This is just a few pages from the beginning but it was a lot of fun. Viva la France! :)

https://youtu.be/Hkt3lNt6v38 (https://youtu.be/Hkt3lNt6v38)
Typeset score: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2zju8u5qz710n96/Schjelderup%20-%20Die%20scharlachrote%20Blume%2C%20Vorspiel%20%28intro%29.pdf?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/2zju8u5qz710n96/Schjelderup%20-%20Die%20scharlachrote%20Blume%2C%20Vorspiel%20%28intro%29.pdf?dl=0)
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 31 October 2020, 17:50
Fierce, yes. But perhaps rather dour too?
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: tpaloj on Saturday 31 October 2020, 19:20
Oh, very dour. Schjelderup seems to have reveled in conjuring the cataclysmic end-of-the-world in his music every chance he had (his stage work "Uveirsnat og Morgenröde" has as blunt of an opening as one might ever find). Unfortunately not much of his music has been recorded for us to give a better summary of it (for better or for the worse). Well, in this work the following first scene after this introduction promises lighter fare atleast, judging from the tone of the text. The libretto is digitized (in German), should you like to take a look:

https://www.nb.no/items/URN:NBN:no-nb_digimanus_245295 (https://www.nb.no/items/URN:NBN:no-nb_digimanus_245295)
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 31 October 2020, 19:30
I remember a review of the cpo CD of Schjelderup's symphonic poem Brand (based on one of Ibsen's more serious plays) and symphony no.2 and dour was a word that came up there too, iirc...
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: tpaloj on Friday 02 April 2021, 13:30
You can listen to Gerhard Schjelderup's short and sweet Music to August Strindberg's "Easter" for string trio on youtube. As per Strindberg's instructions in the play, the music is based on Haydn's Seven Words on the Cross and therefore it is not strictly unsung music, but nevertheless – Happy Easter to everyone on the forum.

I'm still learning how to add scores to IMSLP, but if everything went well you'll find the score and parts there: https://imslp.org/wiki/Music_to_Strindberg's_%22Easter%22_(Schjelderup%2C_Gerhard_Rosenkrone) (https://imslp.org/wiki/Music_to_Strindberg's_%22Easter%22_(Schjelderup%2C_Gerhard_Rosenkrone))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVhXZ_0Y9d0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVhXZ_0Y9d0)
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: tpaloj on Friday 11 June 2021, 13:08
Some more Schjelderup. At first I didn't think much of the Vorspiel to his opera Ein Volk in Not based on the gloomy opening sections, but I changed my mind after looking at some later passages which are quite beautiful – for one, divided strings led by a solo violin at 2:43 and the following blissful passages for full orchestra and harp starting at 3:37.

Overall, stylistically quasi-wagnerian writing with Schjelderup's love for bass register instruments and morbid thematic material. There is incredible sinister energy to the restatement of a theme first heard on trombones (1:15) at 5:08. The whole opera was never staged but there exists a copyist's score and parts of this Overture which suggests it was performed on its own at some point. The copyist's score of the Overture is titled Nach der Niederlage (After the defeat) suggesting it was perhaps programmed under this alternate title.

Typeset score on IMSLP: https://imslp.org/wiki/Ein_Volk_in_Not_(Schjelderup,_Gerhard_Rosenkrone) (https://imslp.org/wiki/Ein_Volk_in_Not_(Schjelderup,_Gerhard_Rosenkrone))
Youtube (noteperformer): https://youtu.be/YKvmEUjj4YA (https://youtu.be/YKvmEUjj4YA)
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: tpaloj on Friday 20 August 2021, 07:38
I was asked to re-upload an old, computer-created recreation of Ernst Mielck's Piano Concerto (this is not the better-known Koncertstück in E!). Mielck presented this 1895 work to his teacher Max Bruch in Berlin, yet it's somewhat uncertain if Mielck ever completely finished it – the only surviving, pencil-drafted score stops abruptly during a repeated section of the trio portion of its second movement (Intermezzo). I don't recall if I uploaded what survives of the second movement earlier, but here we are. The sound quality can be worse than even Noteperformer, so my apologies in advance!

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t6jbpqx5qocodlk/AACy6lVO5nl3pwUQdw_C38ila?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t6jbpqx5qocodlk/AACy6lVO5nl3pwUQdw_C38ila?dl=0)
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Friday 20 August 2021, 09:37
I like "dour".
Thank you very much for the Schelderup fragments.
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: tpaloj on Friday 15 July 2022, 14:59
Gerhard Schjelderup composed a one-act opera titled Frühlingsnacht (Vårnatt) in 1905. He revised it further in 1921, composing two additional one-act operas "Herbstnacht" and "Winternacht" to form a complete, three-act opera. Each of the three acts were designed to be performable on their own, as well.

I find the Vorspiel to Frühlingsnacht very beautiful with its seductive atmosphere and entrancing woodwind writing. It builds up to a quasi-wagnerian climax, and as the curtain is raised and the opera proper begins, the music has died down to mere quiet whisperings of motives introduced back in the opening section.

"Vårnatt" was released on LP in 1982 (Discogs (https://www.discogs.com/release/3935241-Gerhard-Schjelderup-V%C3%A5rnatt-Opera-I-En-Akt)), but so far I've not been able to find it...

Youtube (https://youtu.be/Rksw70pVWbg)
Title: Re: Unsung extracts
Post by: tpaloj on Sunday 31 March 2024, 08:23
Now that the Köln Hochschule für Musik und Tanz has digitized a bulk of interesting autographs in their collection some time back, there is an easy opportunity to study the full scores of many of Friedrich Schneider's early romantic Oratorios. I took this Easter season as a proper opportunity to set a few of their introductions in Dorico/Noteperformer. I believe only two of Schneider's oratorios: Das Weltgericht and Christus das Kind, have been recorded. I haven't had a chance to listen to Christus das Kind, but at least I thought Das Weltgericht is a worthwhile work in this genre.

Das verlorene Paradies: Einleitung
Youtube (https://youtu.be/K778E5hZFO8?si=VU7kCa9Lm4upzZE1)

Die Sündfluth: Einleitung & Nr. 1
Youtube (https://youtu.be/caXnqSy3uQY?si=P-UbytDAE9olw09m)

Christus der Erlöser, Schneider's last oratorio: Einleitung
Youtube (https://youtu.be/PE38Tbda-SU?si=qT7Cn8xT-saKvvCf)

Between these three introductions, the most accomplished I find the last one: Christus der Erlöser's. The themes are treated as a fugato and the choral melody "Herzliebster Jesu, was hast du verbrochen" is also quoted, according to Schneider's (/copyist's) comment on page 3.