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Title: Danish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 13 October 2011, 21:44
by the way, about the Horneman, viaf.org accepts Hornemann as an alternative input but gives Horneman as the authoritative surname, yes :) (Also , the Dacapo won't be the premiere of the suite- it's been recorded on BIS already, back in 1998 (http://www.bis.se/index.php?op=album&aID=BIS-CD-749). Their suite doesn't have an overture either, just four movements - Sunrise- Chorus - Dance of the Satyrs - Bacchanale. ... erm... hrm. That looks like it's the right length to -be- the suite... oh. no, a bit brief...)

Ah! No, this is it.
Overture: Petter Sundkvist/ Danish Radio Concert Overture, 1997.10.26, in Copenhagen, live. This from CADENSA.

Erm. I mean Concert Orchestra. Concert Orchestra. Yes. My fault, not CADENSA's. - Edit
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: britishcomposer on Thursday 13 October 2011, 22:02
Good to know! :D
I cannot keep in mind all those Danish 'man(n)'s: Horneman with one 'n', Hartmann with two...
Ah yes, the Hartmann family was of German origin, that explains it. :D

Just learned that Niels Viggo Bentzon was a great-grandson of J. P. E. Hartmann - as was another composer: Jean-Pierre Waelbroeck.
Moreover the director Lars von Trier is said to be a descendant of Hartmann as well!

Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Friday 14 October 2011, 01:18
Niels Viggo Bentzon...now there's a Danish composer who will never have all his orchestral compositions on disc ;D ;D

24 Symphonies.......8 Piano Concertos....664 opus numbers....at least ;D
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 14 October 2011, 01:39
Bentzon and Langgaard- well, people may have a go and especially with Langgaard I'll be curious to hear. I have Bentzon 2 (for piano and orchestra, opus 36, 1945) (Dreier/North Schleswig SO, piano soloist unidentified?) and 6 (Piccola, 1950, opus 66) (Jens Schrøder/Aalborg city orchestra) (dates of broadcast and movement headings on both unknown, help welcome)  in what are almost definitely broadcast (i.e. not commercial) recordings, actually... hrm..
(At least symphonies 3, 4, 5, 7, and 8 have appeared on CD I see.)
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Friday 14 October 2011, 14:10
Many, Many Thanks for the Bentzon uploads :) :)
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 14 October 2011, 15:05
Welcome :) Re Horneman, DaCapo will be releasing some of his string quartets too next year I see (and some unidentified Holmboe works - there's a composer I've gotten to love ever since hearing a tape of the LP of his 9th quartet. I don't have that performance digitized yet, I think... still looking for the CD a friend sent me of the Malko recording, which may be the premiere of the work (or else a Danish radio performance near to it, broadcast a few years back over Swedish radio), of Holmboe's 7th symphony- much better in my opinion than Hughes (who to be fair was I think just finding his sea legs at that point in his Holmboe cycle...) The opening attack under Malko is- well, foregoing analogy, it's a whole lot sharper...
re Bentzon- I should have added re syms 2 and 6 also that they are not known to Michael Herman - see http://www.musicweb-international.com/Scandinavian_symphonies/Scandinavian_Symphonies.htm (http://www.musicweb-international.com/Scandinavian_symphonies/Scandinavian_Symphonies.htm) article, July 2011 - to have been recorded. 3, 4, 5 and 7 apparently were once from LPs, which I should have remembered (haven't heard them, anycase, though I have had a look at the score of no.7 which reminded me vaguely at the opening - not as much as Melartin 6 does! - of Mahler 7.)
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: shamokin88 on Saturday 15 October 2011, 22:26
A propos Bentzon my notes give the composer as the soloist in the 2nd Symphony performance. I can download symphonies nos.9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 16 and 18 plus many other pieces.
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Saturday 15 October 2011, 22:51
Quote from: shamokin88 on Saturday 15 October 2011, 22:26
A propos Bentzon my notes give the composer as the soloist in the 2nd Symphony performance. I can download symphonies nos.9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 16 and 18 plus many other pieces.

You can........ ;D ;D :) :)
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 16 October 2011, 02:26
Thank you.
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Monday 24 October 2011, 09:49
I'm reminded that there are 1980s BBC Singers recordings of Vagn Holmboe's Liber Canticorum listed both by Cadensa and in Rapoport's "The Compositions of Vagn Holmboe"- the whole set has been recorded commercially but am wondering (I don't ''think'' these Poole-conducted recordings are otherwise available) if anyone has them? :)
(Sometimes deprecated as a cold composer I find quite a few works of his that seem to me to counter such a judgment... his 9th and 15th string quartets probably high among them. I also notice a October 7 1984 broadcast of Richard Hickox conducting his first chamber symphony :) (1951, opus 53/M.171, published by Viking in Copenhagen in 1958.) Also a 1986 recording of Bryden Thomson conducting symphonies by Sallinen (no.4) and Holmboe (no.10); and a 1980 broadcast of the (like the opus 53 symphony?) as yet commercially unavailable? quintet for contralto and strings "Zeit" (op.94/M.233; with Sybil Michelow, singer).)
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Tuesday 25 October 2011, 16:17
the movement names of the Bentzon 8th can be found from http://allmusic.com/work/symphony-no-8-op-113-sinfonia-discrezione-c581137/parts-movements (http://allmusic.com/work/symphony-no-8-op-113-sinfonia-discrezione-c581137/parts-movements) here (edit: there is a Furst recording listed at Worldcat but that's not this, which is Bostock on Classico. The Fürst recording at Worldcat seems to be a radio-only transcription noncommercial thing, the only library mentioned as holding it is U Texas Austin (a big library, has lots of recordings and scores, btw)... - 2003 may well be the date of the Fürst broadcast, at a guess. Obviously I cannot think.

Re Holmboe, several of his quartets got nice noncommercial recordings too- I heard once quartet 14 played by, I think, the Nielsen Quartet before the DaCapo series came out. (I don't own that tape broadcast recording though I do see it listed at Cadensa.) The LP of quartet 9 played by the Copenhagen quartet may be better than the Kontra Quartet reading that's on CD (or as good, anyway- anycase, terrific piece...)
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Tuesday 15 November 2011, 01:43
The Glass sym. 5 was recorded by Downes April 6 1990. The full score is here (http://imslp.org/wiki/Symphony_No.5,_Op.57_(Glass,_Louis)).
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Friday 30 December 2011, 13:09
Atsushi,

Thanks very much for the upload of the Tarp 2nd Symphony :) :)

I have wanted to hear more Tarp ever since acquiring the 7th Symphony on a Marco Polo/Dacapo-where it was coupled with the Piano Concerto and the Te Deum- many years ago now. The 2nd Symphony was on an old LP but this is obviously a different performance. I see that Tarp wrote ten symphonies ;D

Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: lechner1110 on Friday 30 December 2011, 13:56

  It's my pleasure,  Dundonnell.  I also enjoyed this symphony. 
  His ten symphonies are very interesting 8)

 
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 05 January 2012, 02:36
Hrm. I'm guessing the 2nd symphony is the Symfoni in Es op50 published by Edition Dania in 1949 (is it clear it was also written in 1949?)
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: semloh on Friday 03 February 2012, 22:45
Thanks to Eric and britishcomposer for the uploads of works by Bentzon - a composer with whose name I was familiar but whose msuic I had never heard. The Sinfonia Buffo is a particularly charming piece.
:)
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Saturday 04 February 2012, 01:04
One just has to mention a composer on here and the probability is that someone can pop up with a recording of something by that composer ;D

Many thanks for Bentzon's Sinfonia Buffo :)

More about Bentzon here:

http://www.dacapo-records.dk/en/artist-j%C3%B8rgen-bentzon.aspx (http://www.dacapo-records.dk/en/artist-j%C3%B8rgen-bentzon.aspx)
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 04 February 2012, 02:20
the Bentzon I uploaded music by was Niels... ok, I think I understand :)
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: jowcol on Sunday 05 February 2012, 18:36
Quote from: Dundonnell on Friday 30 December 2011, 13:09
Atsushi,

Thanks very much for the upload of the Tarp 2nd Symphony :) :)

I have wanted to hear more Tarp ever since acquiring the 7th Symphony on a Marco Polo/Dacapo-where it was coupled with the Piano Concerto and the Te Deum- many years ago now. The 2nd Symphony was on an old LP but this is obviously a different performance. I see that Tarp wrote ten symphonies ;D

You may be in luck-- I've  just uploaded Tarp Symphonies 1,3 and 5 from Radio Broadcasts, courtesy of the collection of Karl Miller--

I found this description of Tarp on a website-- sorry for the lack of attribution.

Svend Erik Tarp (06/08/1908 - 19/10/1994), a Danish composer. He was among those Danish composers who were closer to French musical culture than to the dominant influence from Germany. In a string of sparkling, diverting works, not least the popular Piano Concerto in C major, he spoke up in the 1930s for a different modernist direction than the German-inspired one that dominated the new Danish music of the period. Tarp composed a total of ten symphonies. While maintaining a certain connection with Carl Nielsen, Tarp's music exhibits striking rhythms and linearity, but usually with a determination to appeal to the wider audience. In the late orchestral works the lines are longer and the seriousness greater than in the early, more chamber-music-like works. Tarp also wrote operas, piano music, didactic pieces and in particular much chamber music and film music. Svend Erik Tarp held a number of administrative posts in the musical world, and for many years this stole time from his creative activities. On the other hand he continued to compose at an advanced age, although because of his weakened sight he had to have practical assistance with his last symphony.

Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Monday 06 February 2012, 01:37
There used to be a saying and probably still is ;D that you could wait ages for a bus and finally when it arrived there were always two at once ;D

On here you wait patiently(or in my case impatiently ;D) for the addition of something by composer X and finally when someone uploads some of X's music you get not one symphony, say, but three, four, five....

That happened with Eklund and now seems to be happening with Tarp and I am absolutely delighted ;D ;D

Many thanks, Jowcol.
Title: Re: Danish music - Knudage Riisager (1897-1974)
Post by: JollyRoger on Tuesday 07 February 2012, 09:57
I think Knudage Riisager is an extremely creative composer not to be overlooked as one of the "great Danes". While his music is available on BIS, surely some concerts or tapes are available. An example of his gift is the Suite from the Qarrtsiluni ballet of 1939, an odd piece loosely described as a Primitive Nordic Bolero. So wear a thick coat and ear muffs for this one...its bitter cold and gets very loud.
You can hear listen here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_IDs1eM5Z8&feature=related

Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Tuesday 07 February 2012, 14:51
It is Dacapo rather than BIS that has recorded Riisager's music. BIS has done a great deal of Holmboe-for which I at least am very grateful :)
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Tuesday 07 February 2012, 18:07
Me too, which probably comes as no surprise. Though Da Capo continues to do yeoman (yeocompany?) work for Holmboe also. (I should at least consider digitizing the tape I have, gift of a friend, of the LP of the 9th quartet - the first work by Holmboe to really convince me- well, the second; the Turnabout LP of the 8th quartet was probably the first. Both very good performances and recordings by, I think, the same group (the Turnabout was a US reissue from a Danish record label, of an incomplete series that encompassed many of the composer's quartets and a few other works of his. Hopefully it'll be reissued - on CD or whatever the new thing is... - sometime; the Kontra Quartet does well by them too, but - in my opinion- the later ones (6 and on?...- ) are very good quartets and deserve several recordings at least. No.15 with its funebre movement especially but not only... ))
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 09 February 2012, 07:15
Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: jowcol on Thursday 09 February 2012, 17:03


I've posted Symphony 5 by Danish Composer Hermann Koppel in the downloads section.

(http://claude.torres1.perso.sfr.fr/Koppel/Koppel1995.jpg)

Details From Classics Online:
The first son of a Polish–Jewish immigrant, the Danish composer and pianist Herman Koppel was born in Copenhagen. He studied music there, and had encouragement from Carl Nielsen, whose piano music he performed. He spent time in Berlin and Paris and was active in chamber music with his brother Julius, a founder of the quartet that bore his name, and his violinist sister-in-law. During the German occupation Koppel took refuge in Sweden, returning home in 1945 to resume a distinguished and musically varied career.

Music
Koppel wrote one opera, Macbeth, choral works on biblical texts, songs, and a quantity of chamber music. His orchestral works include seven symphonies and a number of concertos for various instruments, including four piano concertos.
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 09 February 2012, 21:28
I'm guessing that Danacord will be releasing those Tuxen performances of the Koppel symphonies in their Herman D. Koppel: Composer and Pianist series at some point (as they have several of the piano concertos. Da Capo has released several symphonies and other works but in new performances. Anycase, until that point, thanks - interested to hear it as I'm curious about his muse. One reviewer for Fanfare described one of Koppel's piano concertos as among the best in that genre of the 20th century...)
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: semloh on Thursday 09 February 2012, 23:31
There's a short but detailed piece about Herman Koppell at:

http://www.edition-s.dk/composer/herman-d-koppel
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: jowcol on Thursday 09 February 2012, 23:40
Quote from: semloh on Thursday 09 February 2012, 23:31
There's a short but detailed piece about Herman Koppell at:

http://www.edition-s.dk/composer/herman-d-koppel

Thanks for sharing that.  I always like to know a little more about these Unsung Composers.  That site may come in handy in the future.
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Friday 17 February 2012, 00:03
Huge Thanks to shamokin for the upload of seven symphonies by Niels Viggo Bentzon. :)

Bentzon wrote a total of 24 numbered symphonies, together with a large number of other pieces which have the word Sinfonia or Sinfonietta in the title.
Only 5 of the numbered symphonies have been recorded on cd. We had another two on this site already. The addition of another 7 means that more than half of the Bentzon symphonies can now be accessed by members :)
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: JollyRoger on Friday 17 February 2012, 04:51
Quote from: Dundonnell on Tuesday 07 February 2012, 14:51
It is Dacapo rather than BIS that has recorded Riisager's music. BIS has done a great deal of Holmboe-for which I at least am very grateful :)

Ooops, Yes, thanks so much for for the correction..it is indeed DaCapo.
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Friday 17 February 2012, 20:04
Following up on shamokin's upload of seven symphonies by Niels Viggo Bentzon, I am uploading Bentzon's Symphonic Variations of 1953 and the Chamber Concerto for 11 Instruments of 1948.

These pieces are performed by the Royal Danish Orchestra under Jerzy Semkow and come from a Turnabout LP from 1970.

Notable is the fact that in the Chamber Concerto one of the three pianos is played by the composer and another by Hermann D. Koppel, another distinguished Danish composer.

The Symphonic Variations are particularly fine. There is a Classico cd with the work conducted by Douglas Bostock but the Semkow was the first recording.
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Saturday 18 February 2012, 18:23
I shall shortly be uploading two symphonies by Vagn Holmboe: the Symphony No.8 "Sinfonia Boreale"(Royal Danish Orchestra/Jerzy Semkow) and the Symphony No.10(Gothenburg Symphony Orchestra/Sixten Ehrling).

Both of these symphonies have been recorded for cd by BIS with Owain Arwel Hughes conducting. Hughes turns in quite splendid performances, approved by the composer, but the Ehrling performance of No.10 is regarded as the better reading by critics. It comes from a Caprice LP and has, astonishingly, never been transferred to cd.
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 19 February 2012, 05:27
There have been a couple of recordings of Holmboe 7 that haven't made it to CD, including one conducted by Fritz Mahler and also a broadcast performance - which may be the premiere, but if not, at least involves the same performers (Malko conducting-- broadcast June 18 2000, recorded 1951 - see http://smdb.kb.se/catalog/id/001938036 (http://smdb.kb.se/catalog/id/001938036)) and probably dates from around the same time - that just seems to me to be very much more convincing and energetic (where appropriate, in the latter case) than Hughes' performance. (I haven't heard the others of this work. I know that Hughes' is from very near the beginning of his cycle, though...)
(I am not sure where my copy of the Malko performance is. Somewhere! Not on my iPod either anymore, alas. Well, I'll find it.)
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: Alex Bozman on Sunday 19 February 2012, 19:12
The Semkow recording of Holmboe's 8th was my introduction to his music and in some aspects like the percussion playing, I still prefer his approach to the Arwel Hughes version. The BIS recording of no 8 also seems a bit muffled in comparison to some of the others in the cycle.
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: jowcol on Tuesday 21 February 2012, 20:51
Quote from: Dundonnell on Saturday 18 February 2012, 18:23
I shall shortly be uploading two symphonies by Vagn Holmboe: the Symphony No.8 "Sinfonia Boreale"(Royal Danish Orchestra/Jerzy Semkow) and the Symphony No.10(Gothenburg Symphony Orchestra/Sixten Ehrling).

Both of these symphonies have been recorded for cd by BIS with Owain Arwel Hughes conducting. Hughes turns in quite splendid performances, approved by the composer, but the Ehrling performance of No.10 is regarded as the better reading by critics. It comes from a Caprice LP and has, astonishingly, never been transferred to cd.

I'd be interested in any versions of Holmboe's 5th that haven't  made it to CD-- that is an amazing work.
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: jowcol on Tuesday 21 February 2012, 20:53
I've posted the Violin Concerto by Ingve Jan Trede (1933-2010) in the downloads folder.


(http://dvm.nu/wp-content/uploads/trede.jpg)

Web snippet:
A harpsichordist and pianist, Yngve Jan Trede was born in Germany and graduated from Staatliche Hochschule für Musik and Hamburg with the subjects piano, conducting, music theory and composition in 1960. After that he taught music theory at the same place. In 1961, as a recipient of a scholarship, he studied for nine months at the German academy "Villa Massimo". In 1966 Yngve Jan Trede was employed by the Royal Academy of Music in Copenhagen as a music theory teacher, which made him settle in Denmark. He became a Danish citizen in 1970, and between 1973 and 95 he was a professor at the Academy. As a harpsichordist and pianist he has been active as a soloist as well as a chamber musician; since 1974 he has - among others - been a member of the ensemble Musica Danica.

Yngve Jan Trede's oeuvre includes piano music such as two sonatas and The Black Mirror, music for harpsichord such as Canonic Inventions, 12 Preludes and Ground, organ music (e.g. Toccata concertante, Fantasia quasi una sonata), chamber music (String Quartet, Trio Mobile, Sonata da camera, Dialoghi pastorali e concertanti, Sinfonia for seven strings or string groups among others), vocal music such as Five songs to poems by Poul Borum for mezzo and chamber orchestra, orchestral music (symphonies, Nachtlandschaft, Music for Brass Band a.o.), solo concerts (Organ Concerto, a number of chamber concerts, Viola Concert, Cello Concert), opera and ballet (e.g. the ballet Variations, which was performed by John Cranko in Stuttgart and Edinburgh; 22 chamber operas commissioned and performed by the Royal Theatre: The Stingy Bastard (!) (1980) and Mirandolina/ or Ambigious Love (1985), both based on lyrics by Poul Borum) and stage music such as Neuer Lübecker Totentanz for orchestra, based on a drama by the German author Hans Henny Jahnn.
   



Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: JollyRoger on Wednesday 22 February 2012, 22:13
Quote from: Dundonnell on Friday 30 December 2011, 13:09
Atsushi,

Thanks very much for the upload of the Tarp 2nd Symphony :) :)

I have wanted to hear more Tarp ever since acquiring the 7th Symphony on a Marco Polo/Dacapo-where it was coupled with the Piano Concerto and the Te Deum- many years ago now. The 2nd Symphony was on an old LP but this is obviously a different performance. I see that Tarp wrote ten symphonies ;D
I heartly agree with the accolade from Dundonnel re Tarp, he is a fascinating and uniquely gifted composer and I am eager to hear more..I have never heard music like his before ...the more I listen, the more I like..and I have everything here at least twice.
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: JimL on Friday 24 February 2012, 00:35
Did I miss something about the Tarp 6th Symphony?  There are 3 files, but the 3rd is an 18 second radio blurb.  Are there only two movements, or are there two movements in one file, or two movements in each?  Also, do you have the movement titles?  Just listening to the beginning I can hear the influence or Bartok (especially the Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta).
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: jowcol on Friday 24 February 2012, 14:38
Quote from: JimL on Friday 24 February 2012, 00:35
Did I miss something about the Tarp 6th Symphony?  There are 3 files, but the 3rd is an 18 second radio blurb.  Are there only two movements, or are there two movements in one file, or two movements in each?  Also, do you have the movement titles?  Just listening to the beginning I can hear the influence or Bartok (especially the Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta).

I don't think you missed anything-- that was what my source had, but it would have been helpful if I labeled the radio outro as such.

if anyone can come up with movement titles, I'll update the posting. 
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: Mark Thomas on Sunday 27 May 2012, 08:56
I've posted in the Danish Music thread links to four orchestral works by Emil Hartmann (1836-1898), so of the more famous J.P.E. Hartmann and brother-in-law of Niels Gade. Whilst the overture is available commercially in another performance the thee symphonies are not and they're well worth a listen with their thoroughly mid-19th century German vocabulary and lightness of touch. I've not been able to track down the movement tempi of either the First or the Third Symphony and if anyone has them then I'd appreciate them being posted.
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: jerfilm on Sunday 27 May 2012, 12:37
Has anyone else had problems accessing the website with Hartmann 3?  Both IE and Firefox report the same problem after repeated attempts.

J
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: Mark Thomas on Sunday 27 May 2012, 12:58
It's working fine for me at present, Jerry. Let me know if the problem persists.
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: Richard Moss on Sunday 27 May 2012, 13:25
Mark,

Many tks for Hartmann syms (et al).  I was very frustrated some years ago (10?) when Danacord or Dacapo (I can't remember which), announced the the planned release of all his symphonies (or that is what I took their announcement to mean) but then nothing ever appeared.  As a fan of scandinavian romantic music, it very much whetted my appetitie at the time, so at long last I can now hear them.  Many tks again!

Richard

PS In response to your v. recent plea for others to  make contributions, I would gladly do so if I had anything 'rare/unusual' I could legally add that might interest members.  However (i) I don't have the exotic range of Alan, yourself and others in the first place (I haven't mastered internet recording (yet!) and (ii) , since replacing all my old LPs with CDs over the last couple of decades, I'm not aware of anything that wouldn't potentially breach copyright laws.  How do we stand on out of print CDs (such as Koch Swann?)
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 27 May 2012, 13:43
Re Tarp, his 3rd symphony (first? published in 1971) was published in the Samfundet til udgivelse af dansk musik series (3rd series, no.216) which many university libraries subscribe to - hopefully next time I actually get over to the university library (as I keep trying to remember to do), I'll check the score and mark down the subdivisions. It's called Sinfonia quasi una fantasia, op.66. (The library here also has the 1949 score of his Symphony op.50, plus the LP of that work with the Te Deum op.33, and scores of several other works. Also the piano 4h reduction of Emil Hartmann's 3rd symphony. Time for me to have a look-around, I certainly have the time, I just have to get up there :) )
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: regriba on Sunday 27 May 2012, 18:47
Re the movement tempi for the Emil Hartmann symphonies. I had hoped to find them in Inger Sørensen's substantial, Danish-language biography of the Hartmann family, but unfortunately they are not there. All I could find was that the second movement of the first symphony is "a fantastic scherzo à la Mendelssohn", plus that the second and third movements of the third symphony are, respectively, "a peaceful Andante and a Nordic Minuet".

By the way, there seems to be some confusion as to how many symphonies Emil Hartmann actually wrote. Quite a few sources, including Michael Herman's discography of Scandinavian symphonies, say he wrote seven. Yet according to Sørensen he only wrote four numbered symphonies, plus two "youth symphonies", one of which was played quite a few times in Berlin, but never in Denmark. Generally Emil Hartmann's symphonies were quite successful in Germany but had quite a bad press in Denmark, where they were seen as unoriginal and pale imitations of Niels W. Gades's symphonies. Hans Christian Andersen, a close friend of the Hartmann family, declared that the difference between Hartmann father and son was that "old Hartmann is a born composer. Young Hartmann was brought up to be one."

It is correct that a recording of the Emil Hartmann symphonies was announced some years ago by Danacord, but the project came to nothing. However, though I hate to sound ungrateful, the loss may not be so great, as they planned to use the same orchestra and conductor as on their recordings of the Victor Bendix symphonies. For me at least the Bendix recordings are some of the few recordings of unsungs where the quality of playing and sound seriously impede my enjoyment of the music.
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: Mark Thomas on Sunday 27 May 2012, 19:41
Thanks Regriba. I checked the catalogue of the Royal Danish Library before writing in my post that Emil Hartmann wrote two youthful symphonies and four, numbered mature ones. The Copenhagen library has the manuscripts of the first two and published scores for the other four (plus manuscripts for some IIRC) and, judging by its very comprehensive collection, seems to be the repository of Hartmann's music. That looks like it confirms Inger Sørensen's assertion that Hartmann did indeed write seven symphonies, not eight.

The movement titles which I quoted for the First Symphony came from the online record for one of scores of held by the Royal Danish Library.
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: Mark Thomas on Monday 28 May 2012, 07:30
To follow up on the Hartmann symphonies, I've uploaded to Mediafire a radio recording of his contemporary Peter Heise's only Symphony. It's not quite what you'd expect from the composer of Drot og Marsk or that impressive Piano Quintet...
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: Mark Thomas on Friday 15 June 2012, 18:30
I've just uploaded the Piano Quintet op.40 (pub.1890) of Otto Malling (1848-1915), a pupil of Gade and JPE Hartmann. If you know his Piano Concerto or the Piano Trio, then you'll know what to expect: melodious and well-crafted music from the height of romanticism. Unfortunately the sound quality, whilst not getting in the way of enjoying the music, is rather thin and restricted.
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 16 June 2012, 02:04
BTW the Malling Quintet is not in G; it's in E minor, and a score has been uploaded to IMSLP here (http://imslp.org/wiki/Piano_Quintet,_Op.40_(Malling,_Otto)) (movements are
*Allegro moderato (E minor)
*Scherzo: Allegro molto (B minor)
*Serenade: Andantino, poco allegretto (G major)
*Finale: Allegro molto (E minor).
Title: Re: Danish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 16 June 2012, 02:06
I meant to head over to Cornell today and write down the movement titles of E Hartmann's 3rd symphony and a few other things, but got distracted- apologies. Will soon really.