The Symphony in C minor Op.7 (1897) by Georgy Catoire referred to in the Isaak Dunayevsky thread in Composers and Music is a fine work. Think later Glazunov, maybe, and you are in the right ballpark stylistically. Add in some lovely 'scrunchy' harmonies looking forward, maybe, to Scriabin and you have a most attractive concoction. I'll be playing this again, methinks...
Yes, agreed, late Glazunov is spot on. A very attractive piece.
Was this added to Downloads? I'm not seeing it.
It is available at the Russian download site mentioned in another thread. It appears to come from an defunct LP recording and so I felt it OK to download it for myself, but there are many other files on the site which are clearly rips of currently available recordings, making the site itself of dubious legality overall. There may be no logic to my view, but as owner of this site, I'd rather that people went elsewhere to download the Catoire Symphony than have it downloadable directly from here.
On listening further to Catoire's Symphony I note a number of elements: Tchaikovsky is in the mix, as is Rimsky-Korsakov in much of the orchestration, but what I find interesting is the occasional hint of 'wildness' which takes the music beyond the more restrained tones of Glazunov, as well as a chromatic density which looks forward to Scriabin (although it never seems to last all that long here).
Altogether a work crying out for a good modern recording. Neeme Järvi, where are you?
Just a curiosity question - if this is not available in the Downloads section, what's it doing here in the download discussions?
Jerry
Good point, but I can't be bothered to move it now :)
I don't know how to upload picture files directly here, so I uploaded the Cover artwork to Filesonic. Now you have the artwork to go with the Symphony.
Cheers,
http://www.filesonic.com/file/1383742934/catoiresymph.jpg
Mark, did you wait the two hours for the download from the Russian site or did you figure out how to get around the time limit? That is the screwiest website that I think I've ever seen. You can go round and round in circles, get nowhere. Hafta wonder what the point of it is.....
Jerry
political commentary?
No, I waited about 15 minutes I think. The idea is to spread out the load on their server by avoiding too many downloads at the same time. As for the cover artwork: is this an actual CD or LP cover or what? If so, who are Yedang Classics and where and when was the recording issued?
I don't know when it was reissued, but the Label is Korean and info suggests it has the rights to the now defunct Revelation Records.
Yedang Classics is sold primarily in Asia (Japan, Korea, etc).
The file was sent to me by a US NAVY pal stationed in Japan. I have the Symphony with its tracks, timings and artwork and to me it seems is the same one this thread is about.
Cheers,
Well, not to belabor a point, I tried to download this symphony, waited the full two hours, and then like an idiot instead of right clicking on the "download" button as instructed, I just clicked on it. The symphony immediately started playing and when I tried, vainly, then to download it, it set up another two hour wait. I gave it up. Perhaps someone will be kind enough to post it elsewhere.....
Jerry
I can post it, if there's no problem here with Moderators.
Salutations,
4 hours for a download? Even in Soviet days they didn't queue that long.
Oddly enough. ALthough i already had the catoire symphony from a radio broadcast. It took me only 5 minutes to download a symphony from that russian website.
Tony
As far as uploading the Catoire Symphony is concerned, I suppose I don't mind provided that this is not a currently available recording.
Please do!
erf, as Mark said in the second thread of the Downloads subforum, link urls please (either with the insert hyperlink button or using url= ... /url inside brackets.)
Mark Thomas adds: Eric's message refers to the a post now moved to the Downloads board.
Oops. My bad! Apologies, won't happen again.
Cheers?!
apologies for my temper, and thank you :)
I downloaded it twice, but apparently I don't have a program that can play it. I only have mp3, and couldn't open it. What to do?
what format is it in? there may be a converter for your operating system and computer. I had this problem with the Simpson cello concerto (but for that one was able to find a free converter that worked on my Mac.)
It's a form of zip file. You need a program to unzip it. Then you'll have your mp3 files.
Jerry
I have 7-Zip. Now there's a worse problem. Apparently the file no longer exists.
If it's a .flac file and if you have UNIX or Linux installed (on a recent Mac this works, but one can do this on a PC with Linux also) you can install a flac codec, I think (one seems to come with my Mac FINK distribution or at least can be installed with it - going into terminal and typing "fink install flac" seems to do it, or at least I'm installing it now and will see what happens to the Steinberg... all other options for flac are at least shareware if they don't cost money immediately, I think... the finale of the Steinberg 4th symphony is encoded that way, for instance.) (if so, then "flac -d filename" and you have a wav file)
Roxop Creator 10 Pro also has a converter program built in that will convert the flac file to other formats.
Jerry
But the web-page says: This file has been deleted"!!
Old deleted link at Filesonic has been replaced by New link at Mediafire.
Enjoy!
Thank you very much.
Are you sure that's the whole thing? I just got the first movement.