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The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: FBerwald on Monday 22 February 2021, 19:03

Title: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: FBerwald on Monday 22 February 2021, 19:03
I don't know how welcome this news will be to everyone but I for one am absolutely thrilled. I love this composer. Simon Callaghan will be recording Reinecke's Piano Concertos No. 1, 2 & 4 with the Sinfonieorchester St Gallen and Modestas Pitrenas for Hyperion [dates 15th Nov - 19th Nov] I am already looking forward to this particular volume of RPC.
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 22 February 2021, 20:03
Very good news indeed - although we already have the complete set from cpo in superb performances, of course:
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/cpo/detail/-/art/Carl-Heinrich-Reinecke-1824-1910-Klavierkonzerte-Nr-1-4/hnum/6768258

Neverthless, I'll be buying this!
 
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Monday 22 February 2021, 21:56
Agreed, Alan. The CPO set is very good but dates, I think, from 1994, so some new recordings would not come amiss and I am sure Simon Callaghan will not disappoint.
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 22 February 2021, 22:36
I hope he'll add PC3 at some stage - my own personal favourite.
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: 4candles on Monday 16 May 2022, 16:40
Members, especially Alan, will be pleased to learn that Simon Callaghan plans to record Reinecke's 3rd Piano Concerto and Konzertstück, Op. 33, for Hyperion and with the same forces, in late May 2023. According to the artist's website.
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 16 May 2022, 17:03
Very good news indeed! My favourite of the composer's four.
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 06 August 2022, 18:07
Details from the pianist's website:

Concerto No.1 in F♯ minor, Op.72
Played on  19/11/2021 at Tonhalle St. Gallen, St. Gallen, Switzerland
Recorded on  15/11/2021 at Tonhalle St. Gallen, St. Gallen, Switzerland

Concerto No.2 in E minor, Op.120
Recorded on  15/11/2021 at Tonhalle St. Gallen, St. Gallen, Switzerland

Concerto No.3 in C, Op.144
Listen live on  22/05/2023 at Tonhalle St. Gallen, St. Gallen, Switzerland

Concerto No.4 in B minor, Op.254
Recorded on  15/11/2021 at Tonhalle St. Gallen, St. Gallen, Switzerland

Konzertstück, Op.33
Listen live on  22/05/2023 at Tonhalle St. Gallen, St. Gallen, Switzerland

I also note that the recording of PCs 1, 2 and 4 is flagged up on p.36 (Hyperion advert) of the September issue of Gramophone magazine.
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 03 October 2022, 18:47
Here's the download of PCs 1, 2 and 4:
https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/9374167--reinecke-piano-concertos

I must say I prefer the fuller orchestral sound on the cpo recordings. From the excerpts, the St Gallen Symphony Orchestra sounds rather underpowered to me by comparison. Of course, this may be a question of balance, but first impressions don't favour the new recordings. I'll be sticking with the better balanced cpo set which I've always thought was very fine anyway.

Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 07 October 2022, 11:38
The orchestral accompaniment sounds to me HIP-inspired. If so, this would rule it out completely for me.
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 04 November 2022, 09:02
The conductor so far seems to be associated with works by Ciurlionis, Balsys and also concertante works by Dohnanyi and Rachmaninoff. I may try to give this a listen at some point...
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 21 January 2023, 23:20
The slow movement of PC1 was played on BBC Radio 3's Record Review this morning (21/1). However, whatever the merits of the soloist, I'm sorry to report to report that the orchestral support was simply inadequate - far too pale and reticent. Unfortunately, then, this will be one of the few in Hyperion's RPC series that I'll be avoiding, preferring to stick with the excellently accompanied cpo version. Clearly, the St Gallen Orchestra are no match for the Nordwestdeutsche Philharmonie.
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 28 January 2023, 12:51
The Gramophone review (Feb. 2023 issue) notes the inadequacies of the orchestral playing/recording. Comments such as 'recessed' (twice), 'underpowered', 'restricted dynamic range' and 'the balance being better on the cpo set' are evidence that this is one of Hyperion's weaker efforts in their RPC series. I'm afraid my recommendation is 'avoid' - and go for the cpo set instead:
https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/7946113--reinecke-piano-concertos-nos-1-4
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Post by: John Boyer on Saturday 28 January 2023, 15:24
It's a pity they dropped the ball on this one, but then there have been a number of entries in the series that have suffered from this problem. At least we have the CPO set, along with Ponti's barnstorming recording of the 1st for Vox.
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: FBerwald on Wednesday 03 May 2023, 23:27
It seems Simon Callaghan is to record this month, in addition to Reinecke's Piano Concerto No. 3 & Konzertstück, but Sauer's Piano Concerto No. 2 as well.
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 03 May 2023, 23:33
Any idea about the orchestras involved? Vol.1 of his Reinecke was fatally vitiated by the choice of orchestra.
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: FBerwald on Wednesday 03 May 2023, 23:36
Unfortunately, the same forces
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 03 May 2023, 23:37
Then the project's a non-starter.
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Thursday 04 May 2023, 10:23
Perhaps they will do better this time. Let's not prejudge. Marshev recorded the Sauer 2. I must listen again to that disk.
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 04 May 2023, 12:10
I just have me doubts...
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: Ilja on Thursday 04 May 2023, 13:22
I've been comparing the first Hyperion disc with the CPO set, and there are genuinely things to like; I think I prefer Callaghan's lighter touch to Hellwig's pianism, and the recording feels more transparent than the older set. I don't even mind the slighter orchestral forces so much (and I don't think they're wholly inappropriate for this repertoire) but that situation is made worse by the recording balance, which puts the piano more to the front than the cpo recording does. However, my main gripe is that there's almost nothing new; in the first two concertos, the approach is basically the same in terms of tempi, pacing, and phrasing, and although Callaghan/Pitrenas play the fourth at a somewhat more urgent pace, I'm not sure that the results are all that great. If you have the older set, I don't think the very slight differences justify buying this new recording. 
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 04 May 2023, 17:02
Agreed - as to the pianism, that is. However, the orchestral balance on cpo is far more convincing.
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: terry martyn on Friday 05 May 2023, 09:45
Is the (Hyperion) orchestra essentially the same one that also features in the Rufinatscha Third,do you know,Alan?
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 05 May 2023, 12:05
No! The Rufinatscha CD features the 'Orchester der Akademie St Blasius' which is made up of musicians from all over the Tyrol in west Austria and is based in Innsbruck. The Reinecke CDs feature the 'Sinfonieorchester St. Gallen' which is based in the town of that name in north-east Switzerland. So: two different orchestras from two neighbouring countries.
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: terry martyn on Friday 05 May 2023, 12:16
Thanks,Alan!

If i had taken the trouble to look up the Rufinatscha CD in my collection, I wouldn't have posted that!
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 05 May 2023, 12:19
Not to worry. I had to check myself!
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: Christianv12 on Saturday 02 March 2024, 17:38
Finally the release date for Reinecke & Sauer: 07 June 2024

https://propermusic.com/products/simoncallaghansinfonieorchesterstgallen-reineckesauerpianoconcertos
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 02 March 2024, 18:06
So: will this release put right the orchestral deficiences noted before? And will the Sauer measure up to the superb Marshev on Danacord?
https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/7967901--emil-von-sauer-piano-concerto-no-2-etc
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 02 March 2024, 19:37
It's a strange coupling. Thieriot would have been a much better choice to go with the Reinecke.
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Saturday 02 March 2024, 22:20
I am still hoping Hyperion will record both concertos by Thieriot, as they planned to do with Ivo Varbanov before COVID scuppered that project.
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 02 March 2024, 22:30
Let's hope so, Gareth.
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: FBerwald on Sunday 03 March 2024, 08:49
This is quite a pleasant change. Usually (since the last could of years) Hyperion would release at least 2 Volumes of RPC per year but since 2022 have only release 1 volume per year. Now this year with Vol. 86 [Tellefsen & Kalkbrenner] in Jan, 24' and 87 [Reinecke & Sauer] June, 24' we seem to be back in old rotation. Now, if only they would continue the Violin or Cello series.   
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: Tapiola on Saturday 09 March 2024, 19:39
It includes Reinecke's 3rd PC, Konzertstück op. 33 and Sauer's 2nd PC. Release date on June 7th:

https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/9609434--reinecke-sauer-piano-concertos
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 09 March 2024, 19:54
I'm sorry to report that, judging by the excerpt available on Hyperion's website, this release shares the same problem as its predecessor, i.e. weak orchestral support.
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: Richard Moss on Sunday 10 March 2024, 10:31
...And is RPC in danger of drifting into the 'big label' syndrome and presenting another version of already-recorded works, rather than pioneering/exploring unknowns'?

Just a passing thought

Richard
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Sunday 10 March 2024, 12:34
I don't think so - at least, I certainly hope not. It is worth remembering that the Reinecke disks were scheduled for recording a while before Hyperion sold out to Universal. I will try to contact Simon Perry soon by telephone (if I can) and have a chat with him.
Simon Callaghan too might be able to tell me if he has been contracted to record any more for the RPC series.
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 10 March 2024, 13:39
Let's hope there are more RPC volumes to come - but with a better orchestra and recording balance.
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: Martin Eastick on Sunday 10 March 2024, 13:57
I have just seen the booklet illustration for the first time, and notice that it describes the Sauer No2 as Op254! Of course Op254 is correct for Reinecke's 4th concerto. Sauer seemed to have ditched the use of opus numbers after a few sporadic early works!
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Sunday 10 March 2024, 23:43
You are quite right, Martin. That's a major error. Someone needs to point this out to Hyperion.
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: terry martyn on Wednesday 13 March 2024, 11:33
Many, many, thanks, Alan ! I had completely overlooked the Sauer performance by Marshev.  I have purchased it, and i am listening to it now. As you say, superb!
Title: Re: Reinecke Piano Concertos: Callaghan/Hyperion
Post by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 13 March 2024, 11:59
Marshev is a brilliant pianist.

Here's a review of his Sauer CD:
http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2004/Jun04/Sauer_pc2.htm