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#1
Recordings & Broadcasts / Re: Recording of Raff's Samson
Last post by Mark Thomas - Today at 11:20Fantastic. Thanks, Fred.
#2
Composers & Music / Re: Mystery
Last post by Alan Howe - Today at 09:49I looked online for a reference to the piece, but without success.
#3
Recordings & Broadcasts / Re: Recording of Raff's Samson
Last post by Alan Howe - Today at 09:47Thanks, Fred. Wir freuen uns darauf!
#4
Recordings & Broadcasts / Re: Recording of Raff's Samson
Last post by adcsound - Today at 08:11Dear Friends,
The records should be here, in Switzerland, tomorrow!
The records should be here, in Switzerland, tomorrow!
#5
Composers & Music / Re: Mystery
Last post by Theodore S. - Today at 04:00Quote from: Alan Howe on Yesterday at 20:25Nor do I, sadly. However, there is, I am sure, a piece of music very much like VW's Tallis Fantasia written (I think) by an American composer. Trouble is, I can't remember who.
If you ever remember the American piece, I would love to hear it!
#6
Composers & Music / Re: Mystery
Last post by Alan Howe - Yesterday at 20:25Nor do I, sadly. However, there is, I am sure, a piece of music very much like VW's Tallis Fantasia written (I think) by an American composer. Trouble is, I can't remember who.
#7
Composers & Music / Re: Mystery
Last post by Gareth Vaughan - Yesterday at 20:00It sounds very much to me as if it were written specifically for the movie. I don't find it particularly distinguished.
#8
Composers & Music / Re: Mystery
Last post by Theodore S. - Yesterday at 19:54I have done a bit more research - there's a good chance that this is original music for the film. However, it's very likely not by Robert Folk. The film has had a very troubled production (over 30 years in the making!), and Robert Folk's soundtrack was written for an official studio cut (called the Princess and the Cobbler), while this clip is from a fan reconstruction of the original material; also, Folk's music is very Disney-musical-esque, and his soundtrack can be heard on YouTube.
The man who lead the team effort to reconstruct the movie from its original material, Garret Gilchrist, had this to say about this opening music:
"Much of the music in The Thief workprint isn't known to us. Some of it is clearly original, including the opening overture. Some of it we've been able to identify, including the frequent use of Scheherezade.
The Recobbled Cut has included classical pieces and portions of the Princess and the Cobbler/Arabian Knight score, but the additional music has not yet been added to the Mark 4 version."
(Here is the page this quote comes from: https://orangecow.org/board/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3&p=559&hilit=opening#p559)
If this music truly is part of an original soundtrack, my personal hypothesis is that the composer may have used the Tallis Fantasia as an inspiration. This is based on another video of an early animation test of the same opening sequence, but which actually uses the Tallis Fantasia as the background music. Perhaps this piece was written in a similar way to the soundtracks in the Star Wars franchise, for which John Williams basically made his own versions of existing pieces (Rite of Spring, Rachmaninoff's Symphony no. 2, etc.).
However, being that no definitive answer exists as yet, I think there is still a possibility that this piece does come from a less-known work of classical music, as it was clearly composed and orchestrated to a very high standard, comparable with most known romantic pieces. While there are other apparently original tracks in the film's score which are comparable to classical pieces, a lot of other known tracks aren't similar to this one at all. As such, I leave the question open, as there may be someone here or elsewhere who will recognize this piece. (My guess is that the hypothetical romantic-era composer of this piece would have been from Great Britain, judging by the style.) In any case, I'll do some more research on the topic.
The man who lead the team effort to reconstruct the movie from its original material, Garret Gilchrist, had this to say about this opening music:
"Much of the music in The Thief workprint isn't known to us. Some of it is clearly original, including the opening overture. Some of it we've been able to identify, including the frequent use of Scheherezade.
The Recobbled Cut has included classical pieces and portions of the Princess and the Cobbler/Arabian Knight score, but the additional music has not yet been added to the Mark 4 version."
(Here is the page this quote comes from: https://orangecow.org/board/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3&p=559&hilit=opening#p559)
If this music truly is part of an original soundtrack, my personal hypothesis is that the composer may have used the Tallis Fantasia as an inspiration. This is based on another video of an early animation test of the same opening sequence, but which actually uses the Tallis Fantasia as the background music. Perhaps this piece was written in a similar way to the soundtracks in the Star Wars franchise, for which John Williams basically made his own versions of existing pieces (Rite of Spring, Rachmaninoff's Symphony no. 2, etc.).
However, being that no definitive answer exists as yet, I think there is still a possibility that this piece does come from a less-known work of classical music, as it was clearly composed and orchestrated to a very high standard, comparable with most known romantic pieces. While there are other apparently original tracks in the film's score which are comparable to classical pieces, a lot of other known tracks aren't similar to this one at all. As such, I leave the question open, as there may be someone here or elsewhere who will recognize this piece. (My guess is that the hypothetical romantic-era composer of this piece would have been from Great Britain, judging by the style.) In any case, I'll do some more research on the topic.
#9
Composers & Music / Re: Mystery
Last post by Alan Howe - Yesterday at 13:40My guess would be something similar.
#10
Composers & Music / Re: Mystery
Last post by TerraEpon - Yesterday at 13:11I wager it was written by Robert Folk for the film. But I could be wrong.