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Title: d'Indy vol.6 from Chandos
Post by: ken on Thursday 26 March 2015, 11:17
For d'Indy fans:
http://www.mdt.co.uk/d-indy-vincent-orchestral-works-6-rumon-gamba-chandos-sacd.html
(http://www.mdt.co.uk/d-indy-vincent-orchestral-works-6-rumon-gamba-chandos-sacd.html)
Vincent d'Indy (1851-1931)

Orchestral Works, Vol. 6
•Wallenstein, Op. 12
• Lied for Cello and Orchestra, Op. 19*
• Sérénade et Valse, Op. 28
• Suite dans le style ancien, Op. 24
• Prelude to Act III of Fervaal, Op. 40

Bryndís Halla Gylfadóttir (cello)*
Iceland Symphony Orchestra / Rumon Gamba
Title: Re: d'Indy vol.6 from Chandos
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 26 March 2015, 13:37
Nice. One for the list...
Title: Re: d'Indy vol.6 from Chandos
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 26 March 2015, 14:07
I adore that suite (from other performances...)
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Post by: sdtom on Thursday 26 March 2015, 14:22
Since I have the other volumes I'm sure this will be one that I'll want to have.
Tom :)
Title: Re: d'Indy vol.6 from Chandos
Post by: mjmosca on Sunday 29 March 2015, 17:51
In the 1970's there were recordings of the 3 Wallenstein symphonic poems and Istar, on Supraphone, with Jean Fournet conducting. Does anyone know if these have been transferred to CD. As I recall they were excellent.
Title: Re: d'Indy vol.6 from Chandos
Post by: sdtom on Sunday 29 March 2015, 18:29
if you're interested in the lp it is available on ebay.
Tom :)
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Post by: kolaboy on Sunday 29 March 2015, 22:41
Love d'Indy. Being a completest (as I am) is the best guarantee against the danger of MONETARY wealth :)
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Post by: eschiss1 on Monday 30 March 2015, 01:13
A friend sent me a set of LPs once (by sea mail- quite reasonable way to send, from Australia) which, once it arrived, contained a most enjoyable pairing of d'Indy's suite Op.24 (as mentioned) with his very late chamber "concert" Op89 and the Karadec suite Op34 (probably the 1982 French RCA LP- I don't have it in front of me here.) (Hrm. Chandos issued a Marriner-conducted recording of Op.89 in 2013 (with Krenek- "the 20th-century Concerto Grosso")- I wonder if that means they don't intend to issue one as part of the Gamba-conducted complete d'Indy series?...)
Title: Re: d'Indy vol.6 from Chandos
Post by: ken on Monday 30 March 2015, 15:43
A Japanese 2 CD set was issued in 2002 and is still available.  It contains a work by D'indy conducted by Jean Fournet and is on the Alm Records Kojima label.
If you go to hmv.co.jp.  Change the language to English.  In the search box, type in D'indy Fournet,  the CD will appear.  Unfortunately, it is unclear which D'indy piece is on the CD.
Title: Re: d'Indy vol.6 from Chandos
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 30 March 2015, 17:45
Interesting, thanks. But the Fournet recording on Supraphon is a much earlier release - not that I can find it anywhere!
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Post by: adriano on Monday 30 March 2015, 18:02
Coming back once more with a "don't forget":
There are (were) 4 EMI CDs with works by D'Indy, which I consider excellent. The most "unsung" is the one with Poème des rivages and Dyptique méditerranéen (conducted by Georges Prêtre). The disc with the 3 Wallenstein poems (coupled with La Forèt enchantée) is conducted by Pierre Dervaux and the disc with the Symphonie Cévénole (soloist: Aldo Ciccolini, cond. Serge Baudo) has this work coupled with D'Indy's magnificient Second Symphony (conducted by Michel Plasson).
Add to the D'Indy CD repertoire 2 CDs of the German label Genuit, containing piano works by D'Indy, performed by my friend Michael Schaefer (who also recorded - accompanying his wife Ilona The-Berg, daughter of the famous pianist Erik Then-Berg) Respighi's complete works for violin and paino.
And, last but not least, don't forget D'Indy's opera L'Etranger, which has been (live) recorded on Accord.
Title: Re: d'Indy vol.6 from Chandos
Post by: alberto on Tuesday 31 March 2015, 09:52
As for Mymosca (post 8) I own (and treasure)  a Supraphon Lp of the '70s with la Mort de Wallenstein (not the complete Trilogy) and Istar conducted by the Hungarian Zoltan Fekete.It has been released as it was on Cd by Supraphon itself.
As far as I know (and own) Jean Fournet recorded in the '50s the Symphonie Cévénole for Philips with Jean Doyen.
Ciccolini recorded tje Symphonie Cévénole twice: in the '50s with Cluytens, much later with Plasson.
Dervaux for Emi recorded also Jour d'eté a la montagne, Istar and Tableaux de Voyage (all tranferred to Cd).
"Truly historical" I own a recording of La Mort de Wallenstein conducted by d'Indy himself . Awful sound on the esoteric Canadian label Rococo.
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Post by: DennisS on Tuesday 31 March 2015, 12:41
Reading this thread made me check what works I had - 8 CDs in all. I have two fine versions of Istar - the Pierre Dervaux CD referred to above, in addition to Wallenstein and La forêt enchantée, also includes Istar. Then on the Timpani label (there a couple of D'Indy CDs on this label), there is a very good performance of Istar (coupled with Poème des rivages and Diptyque méditerranéen) with the Orchestre Philharmonique du Luxembourg and Emmanuel Krivine.
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Post by: mjmosca on Tuesday 31 March 2015, 17:45
Thank you all! Alberto is right- my recollection of these recordings is faulty- my collection of lps were destroyed in a fire in the 1990's but I remember the Dervaux recordings on EMI, (imports as I recall) and that they had considerable echo from a very live recording venue (rather exciting, as I remember). I do hope to rebuild this part of my collection- thanks for this information.
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Post by: chill319 on Thursday 09 April 2015, 07:59
In the U.S. in the 1970s Wallenstein could be had in a deluxe gate-fold album from EMI (2-C069-14043), coupled with Istar and performed by the Orchestre Philharmonique des Pays de la Loire under Pierre Derveaux.
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Post by: sdtom on Friday 10 April 2015, 14:12
I think having the six volumes from Chandos will be sufficient for my collection.
Tom :)
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Post by: adriano on Sunday 12 April 2015, 00:03
Don't forget d'Indy's magnificent "sea" opera "L' Etranger" (The Stranger) - available on the Accord label (a 2010 concert performance of the Montpellier Festival). All over a dozen unsung operas available on this label are very important and excellently performed. Among them there are Respighi's "Sunken Bell", Alfano's "Resurezione", Mariotte's "Salomé", Humperdinck's "Königskinder" and Herrmann's "Wuthering Heights"...
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Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 12 April 2015, 08:21
Unfortunately the tenor in the Respighi is a bit of a wobbler, especially when he puts pressure on his voice. Caveat emptor! Thanks for the tip about Alfano's Risurrezione, which had passed me by...
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Post by: adriano on Sunday 12 April 2015, 21:57
Oh well, on that label too there are some other wobblers :-) Still, the performances are quite good and fruits of serious rehearsals.
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Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 12 April 2015, 22:09
It's a personal issue for me. I was brought up on the late, great John Steane's seminal book on singers and singing, The Grand Tradition. Steane was a purist in terms of what was required of a great singer, i.e. the even production of beautiful tone. That's why I have always had problems listening to  many singers labelled as 'great', e.g. Hans Hotter, Maria Callas, etc. And it's ten times worse when it comes to the casting of suitable voices in unsung operas: very rarely are recordings blessed with suitable voices - and all-too often one has to listen through some pretty dreadful singing in order to imagine what the opera in question might sound like if properly cast. So I end buying a forgotten opera on CD, listen to it once to find out what it's like and then file it away because I know I can't tolerate the poor singing. It's like listening to a sub-standard orchestra playing an unsung symphony - a good example is the absolutely dreadful recording of Ludvig Norman's 1st and 3rd symphonies on Sterling, or the Bendix symphonies on Danacord. I just can't bear to listen to them.

Anyway, enough of my problems with recordings of unsung operas. Back to d'Indy...
Title: Re: d'Indy vol.6 from Chandos
Post by: kootenay on Thursday 16 April 2015, 08:27
Two more d'Indy works are/were on Valois V4686, Souvenirs op. 62 (another  recording on Marco Polo 223 654) and the Symphony no. 3 «De bello gallico» op. 70.
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Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 17 April 2015, 03:54
There is also a newer recording of the 3rd symphony on Chandos (a 2009-recorded/2010-released CD, vol.3 of their series) though I'm not offhand aware of any other commercial recordings of that work...
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Post by: alberto on Friday 17 April 2015, 10:11
The Valois cd quoted above contained also "Saugefleurie".
Another valuable d'Indy fairly recent disc is the (obviously deleted) Koch containing the Sympnohy n.2 and "Souvenirs" (J.De Preist, Monte Carlo Orch.).And  a Warner Cd coupling Jour d'etè a la montagne and the Symphonie Cevenole (M.Janowsky cond., C.Colard pianist).
Title: Re: d'Indy vol.6 from Chandos
Post by: eschiss1 on Tuesday 21 April 2015, 02:26
fairly sure that should be
Jour d'été à la montagne
but I may be mistaken in part or in whole; it's been a long while...
Title: Re: d'Indy vol.6 from Chandos
Post by: ken on Thursday 14 May 2015, 23:09
Wonderful sound and playing from the Iceland Symphony Orchestra.  Very easy on the ear and very romantic music.  A great disc to end the D'Indy Chandos series.  Don't miss this one!
Title: Re: d'Indy vol.6 from Chandos
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 15 May 2015, 07:54
Agreed. A very fine CD indeed.
Title: Re: d'Indy vol.6 from Chandos
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 15 May 2015, 10:52
surprised there's "only" 6 volumes of orchestral music by d'Indy to release (and I don't mean they should make extra suites from the operas to fill extra volumes or something, though I sort of wonder if there's some manuscripts lying about in the BNF archives, or something.

(E.g. "Clair de Lune. Etude dramatique pour soprano et orchestre" Op.13 on a poem by Hugo, manuscript parts @ BNF (version with piano published by Hamelle. Not recorded, I think.
Hrm. Well, not "orchestral" specifically, I agree.)
(The BNF catalog does (catalogue.bnf.fr) list a lot of assorted not-orchestral things that I hope some label will look into, though :) - plus there's a string quartet by Wilfred d'Indy- yes, that relative whose trio was recorded mistakenly as by Vincent - ... hrm...)
Title: Re: d'Indy vol.6 from Chandos
Post by: FBerwald on Saturday 16 May 2015, 04:18
I agree! I had expected that there would have been more than 6 cd's of orchestral music... my be I am wrong .
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Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Saturday 16 May 2015, 14:21
You guys are never satisfied!  :) But with the quality of the music on Vols. 1-6 I can hardly blame you.
Title: Re: d'Indy vol.6 from Chandos
Post by: sdtom on Friday 05 June 2015, 14:09
I just received my Volume six (what can I say the USA is behind on this one) and I'm listening to "Wallenstein" right now. I can easily hear the Wagner influence.
Tom
Title: Re: d'Indy vol.6 from Chandos
Post by: sdtom on Sunday 07 June 2015, 15:47
This must have been one of the last recordings that Couzens produced and engineered as it was recorded in November of 2014.