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The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: Mark Thomas on Tuesday 09 August 2022, 07:45

Title: Raff Symphony No. 3 Im Walde: Neue Philharmonie Hamburg/Kannenberg
Post by: Mark Thomas on Tuesday 09 August 2022, 07:45
Raff's Symphony No.3 Im Walde will be played at Hamburg's prestigeous new Elbphilarmonie on 13 November this year to celebrate the composer's bicentenary. Simon Kannenburg (author of the award-winning two volume complete Raff/von Bülow letters) will conduct the Neue Philharmonie Hamburg in Weber's Der Freischütz Overture and Strauss' Horn Concerto No.1 as well as the Raff. Full details here (https://www.elbphilharmonie.de/de/programm/neue-philharmonie-hamburg-simon-kannenberg-jens-plucker/18995).
Title: Re: Raff Symphony No. 3 Im Walde: Neue Philharmonie Hamburg/Kannenberg
Post by: Justin on Tuesday 09 August 2022, 08:32
Will you be in attendance Mark?
Title: Re: Raff Symphony No. 3 Im Walde: Neue Philharmonie Hamburg/Kannenberg
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 09 August 2022, 08:43
Wow! At last a Raff symphony, possibly his greatest, given by a major orchestra.

As Mark says, the conductor, Simon Kannenberg, was awarded his doctorate for his dissertation on the correspondence between Raff and Hans von Bülow.
Title: Re: Raff Symphony No. 3 Im Walde: Neue Philharmonie Hamburg/Kannenberg
Post by: Mark Thomas on Tuesday 09 August 2022, 08:51
Quote from: Justin on Tuesday 09 August 2022, 08:32Will you be in attendance Mark?
Sadly not, I will be in the US then.
Title: Re: Raff Symphony No. 3 Im Walde: Neue Philharmonie Hamburg/Kannenberg
Post by: tpaloj on Tuesday 09 August 2022, 11:56
It's great news, but also a missed opportunity to include one of Raff's fine overtures instead of the overplayed Weber. One of his Shakespeare overtures should have fit the bill just fine I'm sure. Personally, I'm still waiting to hear any of Raff's music in Finland...
Title: Re: Raff Symphony No. 3 Im Walde: Neue Philharmonie Hamburg/Kannenberg
Post by: ewk on Tuesday 09 August 2022, 18:24
Great news.
Only – I don't want to dampen the joy – the Neue Philharmonie Hamburg is essentially a freelance orchestra. That does not need to be of any significance for the quality, but it is probably not a major orchestra. Let's hope some of those responsible for the major orchestras take notice of this concert and think about programming Raff, too.

That being said, they have some videos on youtube which sound rather promising (at least the first couple of minutes). E.g. Beethoven 8
Title: Re: Raff Symphony No. 3 Im Walde: Neue Philharmonie Hamburg/Kannenberg
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 09 August 2022, 19:03
Quotebut it is probably not a major orchestra

Thanks for that correction.
Title: Re: Raff Symphony No. 3 Im Walde: Neue Philharmonie Hamburg/Kannenberg
Post by: Ilja on Wednesday 10 August 2022, 19:47
It is a major venue, though; so let's not downplay the occasion too much. And seeing as it's relatively easy to get there from my neck of the woods, I'll certainly be there.
Title: Re: Raff Symphony No. 3 Im Walde: Neue Philharmonie Hamburg/Kannenberg
Post by: ewk on Thursday 11 August 2022, 12:45
Quote from: Ilja on Wednesday 10 August 2022, 19:47It is a major venue, though

Very much so, I agree! Currently listening to Im Walde, once again charmed by this symphony.
Title: Re: Raff Symphony No. 3 Im Walde: Neue Philharmonie Hamburg/Kannenberg
Post by: ilbravo on Wednesday 17 August 2022, 09:39
Hallo from Hamburg to everyone in the Forum.

Just to prevent disappointments: the concert will not be held in the "Elbphilharmonie", but in Hamburg's former existing historic concert hall called "Laeiszhalle". If you go to the link in the post of Mark Thomas and scroll down, you will get an impression of it. It is a very charming venue with excellent acoustics and very suitable for romantic symphonic music.

Look also here: https://www.elbphilharmonie.de/en/laeiszhalle


Title: Re: Raff Symphony No. 3 Im Walde: Neue Philharmonie Hamburg/Kannenberg
Post by: Mark Thomas on Wednesday 17 August 2022, 10:29
Thanks for the correction, ilbravo.
Title: Re: Raff Symphony No. 3 Im Walde: Neue Philharmonie Hamburg/Kannenberg
Post by: FBerwald on Monday 13 February 2023, 05:01
Just stumbled across this [imho] superb performance of Im Walde by Neue Philharmonie Hamburg conducted by Simon Kannenberg, I believe as part of the Raff Jubilee on 13.11.2022. I'm only including the link to the 1st movement. Movements 3 & 4 are available on the channel. I expect they might upload movement 2 eventually.
Title: Re: Raff Symphony No. 3 Im Walde: Neue Philharmonie Hamburg/Kannenberg
Post by: Mark Thomas on Monday 13 February 2023, 06:58
It's an excellent performance, I do agree. The links to all four movements are:

1. https://youtu.be/XIKc0LnxU1w (https://youtu.be/XIKc0LnxU1w)
2. https://youtu.be/8cg4HHtnB_g (https://youtu.be/8cg4HHtnB_g)
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Esh0juU9j2I
4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJFdNcH7XBY

   
Title: Re: Raff Symphony No. 3 Im Walde: Neue Philharmonie Hamburg/Kannenberg
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 13 February 2023, 14:06
I have changed the links to movements 3 and 4 as the previous ones were defaulting for some reason to the second movement (9:24). I trust they're all now functioning well...

Thanks so much for posting about this performance. The timings for Kannenberg:
1. 13:57
2. 09:24
3. 04:37
4. 17:03

For comparison purposes...
D'Avalos:
1. 14:48
2. 09:49
3. 04:24
4. 16:00

Stadlmaier:
1. 14:18
2. 08:38
3. 04:45
4. 17:05





Title: Re: Raff Symphony No. 3 Im Walde: Neue Philharmonie Hamburg/Kannenberg
Post by: Rainolf on Monday 13 February 2023, 14:06
Nice to see this on Youtube! I had the pleasure to listen to this concert which included Weber's Freischütz-Overture and Strauss's Horn Concerto No. 1, too. Simon Kannenberg is a fine musician and musicologist. Besides of Raff, he is very active for Ferdinand Pfohl and Felix Woyrsch. Not long ago he wrote this encyclopedia article about Pfohl (in German):

https://kulturstiftung.org/biographien/pfohl-ferdinand