Unsung Composers

The Music => Composers & Music => Topic started by: giles.enders on Monday 21 June 2010, 11:57

Title: Percy Sherwood
Post by: giles.enders on Monday 21 June 2010, 11:57
Percy Sherwood, died Hampstead, London 1939.  Does anyone know where the score of his other piano concerto is? I know of the one on C.

Giles Enders
Title: Re: Percy Sherwood
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Monday 21 June 2010, 13:42
A lot of Percy Sherwood's MSS are in the Bodleian Library. I have not viewed the collection so I don't know, but it may be there - if you have not already tapped this source.
Title: Re: Percy Sherwood
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 21 June 2010, 17:53
No.2 is also in the Bodleian, but not the full score - only a reduction. I was there in October 2005 and looked at the collection...
Title: Re: Percy Sherwood
Post by: giles.enders on Saturday 26 June 2010, 16:37
I have now found that the Bodleian has the full score of the second concerto.  Thanks to those who pointed me in the right direstion. I understand it is a late work.

Giles.Enders
Title: Re: Percy Sherwood
Post by: JimL on Saturday 26 June 2010, 16:53
While you're stopping by, Giles, check out that other thread and let us know what you have on the concerto by Louise Farrenc! :D

Oh crud!  Looks like I just missed him! >:(
Title: Re: Percy Sherwood
Post by: giles.enders on Monday 12 July 2010, 12:38
Thanks, now have both pc 1&2 scores from Bodleian.  They will get played within the next few months assuming a concert promoter can be persauded.
Title: Re: Percy Sherwood
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 12 July 2010, 14:08
Great news, Giles. Do keep us informed!
Title: Re: Percy Sherwood
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Monday 12 July 2010, 17:29
That is very exciting news, Giles. Do please keep me informed. I would like very much to hear Sherwood's concerti.
Title: Re: Percy Sherwood
Post by: albion on Wednesday 30 March 2011, 07:19
Percy Sherwood was born in 1866 and died in 1939. He studied with Draeseke, Schulz-Beuthen and Kirchner in Dresden between 1885 and 1888, winning the Mendelssohn German State Prize in 1889 with a large-scale setting of the Requiem. Four years later he was teaching at the Conservatorium in Dresden, where he became Professor in 1911. Around 1914 he returned to London and the outbreak of war meant that this country would now be his permanent home. He continued to compose and give private lessons in piano, harmony and counterpoint.

His works include -

Requiem for soloists, chorus and orchestra
5 Symphonies (two lost)
2 Piano Concertos
2 Cello Concertos
Violin Concerto
Double Concerto for Violin and Cello
Overtures, including one to Goethe's Gotz von Berlichingen
Piano Quintet
Piano Sonata
Sonata for 2 Pianos
Suite for Clarinet and Piano
2 Cello Sonatas

Unlike his near contemporary Algernon Ashton, many if not most of Sherwood's large-scale works seem to have survived and there is a substantial collection of his manuscripts and papers at the Bodleian (MSS. Mus. b. 37-40, c. 404-16, d. 260, e. 47, f. 39-51). Supposedly written in quite a 'modern' (i.e. Wagnerian/ post-Wagnerian) style it would be fascinating to hear some of his orchestral music.

Title: Re: Percy Sherwood
Post by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 30 March 2011, 11:17
I've inspected the Sherwood collection in the Bodleian and as a result came up with this near-complete list of his compositions (I'm sure I've posted it before)...

Percy Sherwood (1866-1939)

1887 Piano Concerto No.1 in C minor***
1887 Symphony No.1 in C major***
1889 Requiem for Soli, Chorus and Orchestra**(*)
1889 Sextet for Piano, Horn, 2 Violins, Viola and Cello*** (Dresden)
1890 Konzertouvertüre***
1890 rev. 1893 Cello Concerto No.1***
1891? (pub. 1897) Cello Sonata No.1 in D major, Op.10~
???? (pub. 1892) 10 Miniaturen für das Klavier, Op.1
1892 Symphony No.2 in B minor*** (Dresden)
???? (pub. 1893) Sechs Lieder, Op.2~
???? (pub.1894) Walzer, Op.3
1897 Serenade for Orchestra No.1 in F major**
1898 (pub. 1906) Violin Sonata No.1 in F major, Op.12~ (Dresden)
1899 (?) String Quartet in G major (lost)+
???? (pub. 1899?) 3 Romanzen, Op.11
1900 (pub. 1908) Cello Sonata No.2 in A major, Op.15~
???? (pub. 1900) Humoresken, Op.20
???? (pub. 1900) Nachtgesang und Nachtstück, Op.21
1901 Trio for Piano, Oboe and Horn***
1901 Sonata for 2 Pianos in C minor***
1902 Violin Concerto in F major (ded. Marie Hall)** (Appenzell, Switz.)
1902 Cello Concerto No.2 in D minor***
1902 Violin Sonata No.2 in G major*** (Taufers, Tirol - Italy)
1905 Piano Sonatine in B flat major (ded. daughter: Therese
           Sherwood)*** (Dresden)
1905-7 Symphony No.3 in E flat major*** (Highcliffe, UK/Dresden)
1907 Piano Quintet**(*)
???? (pub. 1908) Songs from the Golden Treasury, Op.16
???? (pub. 1908) Elfin Song, Op.17
1908 Concerto for Violin, Cello and Orchestra*** (Dresden)
1908 Viola Sonata in C major*** (Highcliffe)
???? (pub. 1913) 2 Sonatine (unclear if x2 or No.2), Op.22
???? (pub. 1913) Suite for 2 Violins, Op.23
1920 Idyls (for piano)*** (London)
1920 Serenade No.2 for Orchestra*** (Bournemouth/London)
1920-1 Violin Sonata No.3 in C minor*** (Bournemouth/London)
1922 Episode for Violin and Orchestra*** (London)
1922-30 String Quartet 'No.6' in A major*** (Nayland, Suffolk)
1925-6 Suite for String Orchestra with Flute, Oboe, Clarinet & Horn***
                (London)
1931-2 Piano Concerto No.2 in E flat major** (Nayland, Suffolk)
193? String Quartet in B minor*** 
** Autograph manuscript (reduction) in Bodleian Library, Oxford, UK
**(*) Copyist's full score in Bodleian Library
*** Autograph full score (bound, or all parts intact) in Bodleian Library
~ Published score in Bodleian Library
+ See www.humanities.mcmaster.ca/~admv/1899.htm


Title: Re: Percy Sherwood
Post by: Martin Eastick on Wednesday 30 March 2011, 11:56
Alan, many thanks for the Sherwood works list - you may wish to add the following items, which may not be in the Bodleian collection::

(6) Kleine Poesie(e)n fur das piano Op5 (Ries & Erler n.d.)
3 Stucke fur Violoncello und Pianoforte Op14 (Legende, Intermezzo & Saltarello) Op14 (Louis Oertel, Hannover, 1908)

The above cello pieces, together with the two cello sonatas, were 'read through' here at home several weeks ago by Joseph Spooner with David Owen Norris, with the idea of interesting Dutton in producing a recording - this is still in the melting pot I believe but hopefully will go through!

Martin
Title: Re: Percy Sherwood
Post by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 30 March 2011, 13:30
Lovely, Martin! Thanks!
Title: Re: Percy Sherwood
Post by: albion on Wednesday 30 March 2011, 16:59
Alan, thanks very much for providing the Sherwood list - I was contemplating contacting the Bodleian! So orchestral works in full score are:

1887 Piano Concerto No.1 in C minor
1887 Symphony No.1 in C major
1889 Requiem for Soli, Chorus and Orchestra
1890 Konzertouvertüre
1890 rev. 1893 Cello Concerto No.1
1892 Symphony No.2 in B minor
1902 Cello Concerto No.2 in D minor
1905-7 Symphony No.3 in E flat major
1908 Concerto for Violin, Cello and Orchestra
1920 Serenade No.2 for Orchestra
1922 Episode for Violin and Orchestra

Perhaps enough here for a series of Dutton discs!  ;D

According to Grove V there were five symphonies (so two are now probably lost) and "overtures", whilst Brown & Stratton (1897) mentions an overture to Goethe's Gotz von Berlichingen (which is possibly the same 1890 overture listed above).

I'd especially love to hear the symphonies and concertos - I wonder if the relevant pioneering record companies are even aware of Sherwood's existence!  ???
Title: Re: Percy Sherwood
Post by: JimL on Thursday 31 March 2011, 00:07
I seem to remember somebody else doing something based on Götz von Berlichingen.  Was it Raff?  I'm not sure but isn't the Overture Ein Feste Burg lifted from incidental music to a play based on the same character by his brother-in-law?  Or are my neurons misfiring again?
Title: Re: Percy Sherwood
Post by: petershott@btinternet.com on Thursday 31 March 2011, 00:32
Paul Dukas? There's an overture to Gotz von Berlichingen.
Title: Re: Percy Sherwood
Post by: JimL on Thursday 31 March 2011, 01:10
Yeah!  That was it!  It was on a list of Paul Dukas' complete extant works.  It was about as long as my pinkie fingernail! ;D
Title: Re: Percy Sherwood
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 31 March 2011, 01:38
Havergal Brian (1876-1972)'s symphony no.2 in E minor (1930-31) was, according to the composer, somewhat influenced by this too :) (see this essay (http://www.havergalbrian.org/sym2_goetz3.htm) for a more detailed treatment, I think, than sometimes given, about any relation.)

There's also an opera by Karl Goldmark, actually and definitely after the Goethe play.
Title: Re: Percy Sherwood
Post by: Lionel Harrsion on Thursday 31 March 2011, 14:41
Quote from: petershott@btinternet.com on Thursday 31 March 2011, 00:32
Paul Dukas? There's an overture to Gotz von Berlichingen.

Dukas' Goetz de Berlichingen overture is available on a Sterling CD (CDS 1074-2) coupled with his Symphony in C major and Le Roi Lear overture played by the Wurttembergische Philharmonic Reutlingen, conducted by Fabrice Bollon.  I only know this because Patrick Meadows and I prepared the score and parts for this recording from the MS.  It's an interesting piece although it doesn't sound much like Dukas to me and I'd be interested in others' opionions of it.

Title: Re: Percy Sherwood
Post by: Simon on Friday 01 April 2011, 05:51
Any thought on Sherwood's chamber music? I'm wondering if I should order a copy of his Trio for oboe, horn and piano...
Title: Re: Percy Sherwood
Post by: FBerwald on Thursday 15 June 2017, 12:26
This may be a very late question but I was wondering reg. the Orchestral material for Piano Concerto No. 2 in E-flat Major. The list above states Autograph manuscript (reduction) in Bodleian Library, Oxford, UK, then what about the Dutton recording? Did they find the parts or original?
Title: Re: Percy Sherwood
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Thursday 15 June 2017, 13:09
My understanding is that the autograph full score is in the Bodleian library and this was "transcribed and edited" by the pianist on the Dutton disk, Hiroake Takenouchi, who, I am sure, would be happy to answer any questions.
Title: Re: Percy Sherwood
Post by: thalbergmad on Thursday 15 June 2017, 18:39
Indeed both PC's are in the Bodleian and if you have a few hundred quid spare you can get copies. The 2nd is also available in 2 piano.

Thal