Unsung Composers

The Music => Composers & Music => Topic started by: mikehopf on Wednesday 12 July 2017, 09:19

Title: Charles Horsley
Post by: mikehopf on Wednesday 12 July 2017, 09:19
Charles Edward Horsley (1822–1876), English musician, was the son of William Horsley.

He studied in Germany under Hauptmann and Mendelssohn, and on his return to England composed several oratorios and other pieces, none of which had permanent success. In 1860 he was appointed to arrange the music for the 1862 International Exhibition. In the following year he emigrated to Australia, where he worked as a choral and orchestral conductor, and in 1872 went to America. Three weeks after landing in America, he was appointed organist of St John's Chapel, New York at a salary of £500 a year, which position he filled to the day of his death. His wife, Georgina, to carry out his wishes, placed him to rest near and with his own people in Kensal Green Cemetery, London.

His works include a string quartet in C major, the manuscript of which is dated March 1861, shortly after his arrival in Australia; this is probably the first work for this combination to have been written on Australian soil. In the United States he wrote sentimental and patriotic songs, which continued to appear until the last year of his life.

His Violin Concerto is to be given its first Australian performance  in Melbourne in the coming months.
Title: Re: Charles Horsley
Post by: FBerwald on Wednesday 12 July 2017, 09:58
I believe he also wrote a Piano concerto in C minor. Anybody here familiar with his music?
Title: Re: Charles Horsley
Post by: giles.enders on Wednesday 12 July 2017, 11:26
He did indeed write a piano concerto in 1848. 
Title: Re: Charles Horsley
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Wednesday 12 July 2017, 12:52
And does it still exist  I wonder.
Title: Re: Charles Horsley
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Wednesday 12 July 2017, 13:13
I have answered my own question. Holograph MS score in University of Melbourne library. Incomplete MS score in BL. This according to World Cat.
Title: Re: Charles Horsley
Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 12 July 2017, 13:32
The Marshall-Hall Trust has published two string quartets by Horsley, in fact, including a second from 2 years later (1864- they attribute the first to 1862, not 1861?.)

There are some other chamber music works (piano trios Op.7 (Augener, ca.1860s) & Op.13 (Breitkopf), cello sonata Op.3 (copy @ DKB, and recently republished (2011)), violin sonata Op.14, flute sonata Op.11, etc.? - and I wonder if the string quartet published in a limited edition in 1979 is a third string quartet or just an earlier publication of the C major you mention...); also 3 symphonies, 2 of them (nos. 2 (1848), 3 (1852)) in manuscript @ State Library of Victoria.
Title: Re: Charles Horsley
Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 12 July 2017, 13:58
Also, heads-up to ViolinConcerto :), there's a Violin Concerto in D minor Op.29 by Horsley (1849) published in 2007...

edit: apologies for missing that that was already mentioned!
Title: Re: Charles Horsley
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Wednesday 12 July 2017, 14:09
Yes, and edited by the late Richard Divall.
Title: Re: Charles Horsley
Post by: Mark Thomas on Wednesday 12 July 2017, 16:20
QuoteHis Violin Concerto is to be given its first Australian performance  in Melbourne in the coming months.
Will the promised performance broadcast or recorded, Mike?
Title: Re: Charles Horsley
Post by: mikehopf on Wednesday 12 July 2017, 22:52
The Horsley  Violin Concerto in Dm Op.29 is to be performed on 7th October at Monash University.

Entry is free, so all it will cost you is the flight to Australia. A small price to pay for such a treat!

I'll be contacting both the university and 3MBS, our local classical music station, to see if the concert is being recorded and/or broadcast.

I have a recording ( issued on a CD some years back) of Horsley's Piano Trio in B, Op.13. Also, possibly, a recording of a String Quartet.
Title: Re: Charles Horsley
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 13 July 2017, 10:34
btw "1860s" should be edited for the 1st trio to "by 1855" as both trios appear in Augener's universal circulating catalog of 1855. My mistake.
Title: Re: Charles Horsley
Post by: Martin Eastick on Thursday 13 July 2017, 11:41
Firstly, a little more concerning the piano concerto, written in 1847. The British Library holds the incomplete full score, which is lacking the opening tutti and the first section of the opening piano solo (a total of 28 bars, according to a note by Professor Divall) The copy held in the Louise Hansen-Dyer Library in Melbourne however is a complete piano solo score, which also incorporates the orchestral accompaniments in the form of a 2-stave keyboard reduction. Therefore it should be a relatively straight-forward job to reconstruct what is missing, and hopefully this may be undertaken shortly!

Secondly, I have recently been in contact with the Australian String Quartet, who have recently been programming the C major quartet, and it seems that this is to be released on CD shortly.

Thirdly, the Flute Sonata Op11 is included on a Sheva Collection CD entitled appropriately "British Flute Music in the early 19th century", performed by Gilberto Fornito and Christopher Howell.

Certainly, the 2 surviving piano trios, Op7 (1845) & Op13 (1848) would make a most attractive proposition for  recording, certainly on the strength of the 1st movement of  the B minor Op13 (which is all I have heard to date - I am not aware of a complete CD recording of the complete work as mentioned above).
Title: Re: Charles Horsley
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Thursday 13 July 2017, 12:34
Thanks Martin for this useful and informative post.
Title: Re: Charles Horsley
Post by: Simon on Saturday 05 August 2017, 01:30
In the introduction to Horsley's Piano Trio Op. 13 edited by Richard Divall, one can read :

"The full catalogue (2011), of Horsley's works to date is included in this introduction."

Strangely, I can't find this full catalogue in the downloadable version of the Trio on the website... Am I the only one missing something? Or is it somewhere else?

http://artsonline.monash.edu.au/music-archive/mda006/ (http://artsonline.monash.edu.au/music-archive/mda006/)
Title: Re: Charles Horsley
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 23 June 2018, 16:20
the symphony in D op.9 (full score? not sure) is included in this manuscript collection at the British Library, if not already noted so - Worldcat (http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/47928117). (Reel 72.)

Also, several others of Horsley's works as edited by Divall besides the B minor trio can be downloaded here (https://arts.monash.edu/music-archive/digital-publications/) I see, along with works by Hart, Marshall-Hall, Isaac Nathan, etc.
Title: Re: Charles Horsley
Post by: Simon on Tuesday 26 June 2018, 04:56
Quote from: mikehopf on Wednesday 12 July 2017, 22:52
The Horsley  Violin Concerto in Dm Op.29 is to be performed on 7th October at Monash University.

Entry is free, so all it will cost you is the flight to Australia. A small price to pay for such a treat!

I'll be contacting both the university and 3MBS, our local classical music station, to see if the concert is being recorded and/or broadcast.

Any idea if it was recorded/broadcast in the end? Or if it will be performed again?
Title: Re: Charles Horsley
Post by: eschiss1 on Tuesday 26 June 2018, 06:03
There was a plan (did it happen?) to perform the recently-published concerto at the U Arkansas (Fayetteville, Arkansas, United States) on Oct. 11 2016, even. Don't know if either performance happened. Anyone have followup info?
Title: Re: Charles Horsley
Post by: semloh on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 05:41
I checked with authorities at the Monash venue, and the concert was not broadcast or recorded. What a pity!  :(
Title: Re: Charles Horsley
Post by: mikehopf on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 09:20
I was at the Horsley concert at Monash University which, despite their denials, was certainly recorded.

I have been phoning both their Music Library and Media Centre many times and just get palmed off with the usual: "We'll get back to you".

My next approach will be to contact the soloist, Sophie Rowell,

Anyway, forward we go... and we DO go!
Title: Re: Charles Horsley
Post by: semloh on Sunday 22 July 2018, 00:55
Well, that's odd, Mike. Maybe a recording was done without official approval.
I hope we aren't poking the possum! ;D
Title: Re: Charles Horsley
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 22 July 2018, 09:17
Poking the possum?
Title: Re: Charles Horsley
Post by: semloh on Sunday 22 July 2018, 11:03
Sorry, that was a bit careless. It's a quaint phrase from around these 'ere parts! There are several versions, more commonly "stir the possum', all roughly meaning stirring up a hornets nest.....
Title: Re: Charles Horsley
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Sunday 22 July 2018, 11:04
Some possums are meant to be poked!
Title: Re: Charles Horsley
Post by: Mark Thomas on Sunday 22 July 2018, 18:13
What a sheltered life I seem to have led!
Title: Re: Charles Horsley
Post by: mikehopf on Monday 23 July 2018, 02:30
You poke a possum to see if it is dead. I'm sharpening my stick as I write.
Title: Re: Charles Horsley
Post by: Martin Eastick on Thursday 09 December 2021, 15:06
For those interested in my previous mention (13th July 2017 posting) of a CD recording of Horsley's String quartet in C, performed by the Australian String Quartet, it seems that the actual CD never materliased, but the download is available here https://www.amazon.co.uk/Charles-Edward-Horsley-String-Quartet/dp/B08NDW7QBR/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Horsley+string+quartet&qid=1639061433&s=dmusic&sr=1-1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Charles-Edward-Horsley-String-Quartet/dp/B08NDW7QBR/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Horsley+string+quartet&qid=1639061433&s=dmusic&sr=1-1).

Also, is there any further information concerning the "recording"  or otherwise, of the performance at Monash University of the Violin Concerto? It seems an awful waste of time and effort if this first performance of what seems to be an important and interesting work is not made available to further Horsley's cause.
Title: Re: Charles Horsley
Post by: Mark Thomas on Thursday 09 December 2021, 15:38
The String Quartet is also available on Spotify.