Here's a fun piece, dating from 1878:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PwcaR4UOFY
From this 2-CD reissue:
https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/7989094--rheinberger-symphonic-works ???
I have it! And, somehow, it's not been plagiarised !
Quote from: terry martyn on Wednesday 13 March 2024, 11:28I have it! And, somehow, it's not been plagiarised !
...as far as we know!
I had hoped to publish it as my "...And the Gladiators" Overture, Op. 837, but now the cat is out of the bag.
Somehow I missed this when it first came out (I have the Wallenstein/Sieben Raben disc), but it's now on order.
Quote from: John Boyer on Wednesday 13 March 2024, 13:42I had hoped to publish it as my "...And the Gladiators" Overture, Op. 837, but now the cat is out of the bag.
I would have let you have the address of a man who could help, but he's been six feet under since 1971 ;)
So, what do you find appealing about it? Hopefully I'll find out for myself soon. The only other overture I know is "Die Sieben Raben", which I like very much.
I like the way he contrasts more lyrical writing with, for example, the storm he whips up a few minutes in and at the close. Just as you think that this is music 'without teeth', he proves us wrong. He also has a few good tunes.
Demetrius arrived and I agree with your assessment, which sums it up well. My only quibble was his excessive use of cymbals and bass drum. It reminded me too much of Italian opera overtures -- Berlioz's criticism of this practice comes to mind. If you must include them, save them for a few key whacks, like Barber does in "The School for Scandal".
Glad you like it, John. I think his two symphonies (Wallenstein; Florentiner) are fine pieces, each with memorable material. They're a bit like Bruch with added piquancy. Something do with being from exotic-sounding Vaduz in Liechtenstein, maybe?
I will revisit the symphonies soon. Though we are straying off topic, this thread has revived my interest in Mr R. Last night I listened to the Horn Sonata and the String Quintet, and browsing the record shelf reminded me of all his fine choral music. Do you know his mass for eight-part chorus, or his setting of Psalm 84? Great stuff.
No, I've never delved far into his choral music - thanks for the recommendation.
You'll enjoy them, I think. I'm referring to the Mass in E-flat (Cantus Missae), Op. 109, and "Wie lieblich sind deine Wohnungen", Op. 35.
Now, off to Demetrius again.
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Addendum: and, having listened to it three times this morning, I now like it as is: bass drum, cymbals, descending chromatic scales, and all. Well done, Joe!
I like the quintets, 3rd piano trio (apparently once very often played) and violin sonatas especially myself. Thanks for the recommendation!
(And his once-popular piano quartet - I have the Thorofon version- appeals too :) )
Is there an online score available? I did not see one at IMSLP.
Thanks to your advocacy, John, I have ordered the 10-CD set of Rheinberger's choral music on Carus:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00WFKXTFG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Excerpts/download here:
https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8065853--rheinberger-sacred-vocal-music
As it happens Carus publishes his Demetrius Overture too:
https://www.carus-verlag.com/en/music-scores-and-recordings/josef-gabriel-rheinberger-overture-to-schiller-s-demetrius-5011000.html
Thanks for the Carus Verlag tip, Alan. In the days before IMLSP, I bought the scores of the violin sonatas from them.
All 10 of the Carus choral CDs? You're diving deep! I hope I haven't oversold the choral music on you. In any case, I hope they give you much enjoyment. I have a few singles from the series.
Not to worry, John. The Carus set was a bargain anyway - 10 CDs for the price of approximately 3! And I'll not be binge-listening!