Said with tongue firmly in cheek, I presume! :)
Duh? ???
I moved Jim's post from the Downloads board, so it needs to be read in conjunction with Amphissa's post there...
Let me know when you have something to contribute to the Downloads other than criticism.
There is a world of difference between wit and puerility. As one of two who find ourselves smiling at the former and wincing at the latter because we have to read every post, let me offer this advice: think before you post; and, if possible, don't post if you've nothing of interest to contribute.
Quote from: Mark Thomas on Saturday 15 October 2011, 18:04
I moved Jim's post from the Downloads board, so it needs to be read in conjunction with Amphissa's post there...
Where has it been moved to?
???
Sorry, I've been out working this evening and missed whatever has transpired.
I know. None of this makes any sense to me either :o
I deleted what JimL was referring to. Just forget it and let's return to posting great music.
Enough said.
:)
:-[ :'(
Jeez, guys. I was merely implying that El amor brujo is probably one of the most sung de Falla scores there is! Did you really find that so critical?
The point is this: please post courteously and thoughtfully; and please reply in the same manner...
Back to music: I posted Tomas Breton's oratorio El Apocalipsis in the Downloads board. If anyone has other work by him other than this, the 2nd symphony, En la Alhambra, or the operas, I'm very interested.
In Breton's work, a special place is taken up by his orchestral poem Salamanca (1916). It diverges from his earlier works much in the same way that Gernsheim's Zu einem Drama (1909) diverges from his: a decisive shift of musical language in the composers' final years towards a more individual style.
There is still a wealth of material to be unearthed in Iberian music. Like in Italy, much of it has been buried in operas (and zarzuelas), but a lot of it is of good quality.
Hi Ilja,
Thanks to upload rare Breton's oratorio.
I also like Breton's music very much! But , I have only one CD of 2nd symphony and Salamanca.
These are very good romantic style work . ( plus his individual musical idiom maybe Iberian music )
I also interested in his other work!
the only Breton I've heard so far is the piano trio and string quartet, I think, so it will be good to hear this. Thanks!
I'd sure like to get me a download of the Albeniz PC! :)
I'm not sure how legally but there are YouTube videos of at least movements of it.
Quote from: JimL on Saturday 29 October 2011, 15:55
I'd sure like to get me a download of the Albeniz PC! :)
There's a few recordings of it, assuming you mean #1, including a cheap one on Warner (Apex I think). Or do what I did and DL the recent BIS version from eClassical.com (along with the ORIGINAL orchestration of the Rapsodia Espagnola). Now if you mean #2....well that's incomplete anyway so I assume you don't :P
There's also an incomplete Granados PC. Hmmm...
I am uploading two works by Oscar Espla from an old LP:
Sinfonia Aitana and Sonata Del Sur for Piano and Orchestra.
I shall be adding a BBC recording of Roberto Gerhard's Violin Concerto played by Erich Gruenberg.
I was not quite sure whether to add this to the British Music Collection since Gerhard lived in Britain from 1939 until his death in 1970 and was therefore an emigree in the same way as Egon Wellesz, Hans Gal, Berthold Goldschmidt, Andrzej Panufnik. I believe however that Gerhard still very much considered himself a Spanish(or Catalan) composer but I am perfectly happy to be over-ruled on this.
I am not particularly enamoured of Gerhard's later compositions but the Violin Concerto does contain passages of lyricism which demonstrate the influence of earlier Spanish music on the composer.
Sorry to be a Jeremiah, but the recently uploaded performance of the Surinach piano concerto is currently available on CD - EMI's Eloquence label.
thanks, Atsushi, for the Garcia Symphony. And you've restored my hope as well. I was beginning to think we'd run out of 19th century music....heehee.....
Jerry
You are welcome, Jerry. Garcia's symphony is very good romantic style symphony, in my opinion. I want to listen all of his symphonies! ;D
I want more Marquès too (not García, BTW)!! Thanks for letting us experience this composer!
Here are some brief biographical notes:
Pere Miquel Marquès y García was born in Palma de Mallorca, Balearic Islands , Spain on May 23,1843.
In 1859 he went to Paris, where he studied with François Bazin. He was practically the only Spanish composer of his time to have written symphonies. He wrote 5 of them (1869, 1871, 1876, 1878 and 1880).
He also wrote zarzuelas (Spanish operettas), of which El Anillo de Hierro (The Iron Ring - 1878) is the best known.
He lived in Madrid most of his adult life, until he retired. He died on 25 February 1918 in Palma de Mallorca.
My thanks to rbert12 for all the posts of really unsung Spanish composers.
Really looking forward to get acquainted with some more.
Renewed thanks to rbert12 for the three Marquès symphonies. Can No. 1 be too far?
Sorry, but I only have recorded from 2 to 5, but the sheet music of this first symphony has been edited and published recently, so maybe there has been a performance and someone has recorded it, or there will be one in the near future. We could always hope...
Not minding repeating myself, thanks again to rbert12 for this embarrassment of riches!
San Antonio de la Florida is indeed a very "unsung" zarzuela!
Ditto for Matilde Salvador!
I also would like to say "Arigato"(Thank you!) , rbert12.
All works are new to me, and very nice ;)
And I always enjoying concert broadcasting of RTVE and Catalunya musica ;D
My hearfelt thanks to rbert12 for Lopez Chavarri's Acuarelas Valencianas.
I never thought my request would be fulfilled so soon!
Thanks to Latvian for the perfect complement to rbert12's Lopez Chávarri and Palau posts.
I knew Iturbi was a great pianist, but didn't know he was a very good conductor as well.
QuoteThanks to Latvian for the perfect complement to rbert12's Lopez Chávarri and Palau posts.
I knew Iturbi was a great pianist, but didn't know he was a very good conductor as well.
You're welcome! I hope someone else has more works by these two colorful and highly enjoyable composers. There seems to be precious little available of theirs even through no-commercial sources.
Thanks again to rbert12 for the Toldrá. I never tire of admiring the beauty of some of his songs (especially the Catalonian ones).
rbert12 - thank you for the music you've been posting! :) :)
Samper's charming musical picture of Mallorca was a beautiful start to my day.... It's all most enjoyable, and deserves to be more widely known.
Once more my thanks to rbert12 for this embarras de richesses!
As usual, my thanks to rbert12 for opening still more vistas of virtually unknown compositions by Spanish musicians.
Renewed thanks to rbert12 for the rare repertoire. I'm currently travelling in Spain & have secured tickets to Moreno Torroba's La Chulapona at Teatro de la Zarzuela in Madrid. Any chance of getting some very "unsung" zarzuelas on this forum?
It is not always easy for me to verify the origin of a recording, so to know if it has been reissued in CD. Without more checking I can upload, if you are interested, 'La patria chica' and 'La venta de Don Quijote' both from Ruperto Chapí, as I am sure they are from concert broadcasts. Only the music, I always edit the dialogs, sorry.
Thanks,rbert12. I would love to have both Chapi's works, even if i can't DL them in the near future.
QuoteI would love to have both Chapi's works, even if i can't DL them in the near future.
I will try to post then tomorrow.
QuoteI will try to post then tomorrow.
Sorry about 'La Patria chica' but my memory was at fault, the recording I have is the one that Ataulfo Argenta did in 1958, that has been issued in CD. But if you are interested in Chapi, you can find in youtube the complete opera 'La muerte de Garcilaso', an absolute rarity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mno6SWY1fl8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mno6SWY1fl8)
QuoteOn Matilde Salvador
Do you know if she has cd recordings?
The only one I know is this one: http://www.uji.es/publ/cataleg/musica/matilde.html (http://www.uji.es/publ/cataleg/musica/matilde.html)
I will upload the cantata 'Las Horas' in the Spanish Composers Folder
Thanks to A.S. for providing new insights into Spanish composers I knew absolutely nothing about.
I will download these works next week, after I get home (finally!).
Quote from: rbert12 on Thursday 07 June 2012, 19:53
QuoteI will try to post then tomorrow.
Sorry about 'La Patria chica' but my memory was at fault, the recording I have is the one that Ataulfo Argenta did in 1958, that has been issued in CD. But if you are interested in Chapi, you can find in youtube the complete opera 'La muerte de Garcilaso', an absolute rarity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mno6SWY1fl8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mno6SWY1fl8)
Don't worry,rbert (and thanks anyway). Since I am still in the neighbourhood of Madrid, I will try to get the Argenta commercial version.
With regard to the several pieces that Atsushi put up a week or so ago by Toldra. Can someone tell me what these are? Are they arias from one opera? Or what?
Jerry
Hi , Thanks and sorry, I also can't find information of them.
Does anyone can understand Spanish (Catalan) announce? :-[
Mr. Atushi - whatever they are, the Toldra, and your other recent Spanish uploads, are quite terrific....as of course are so many of the others that you and fellow members have kindly uploaded for our pleasure/education.
Many thanks indeed.
QuoteWith regard to the several pieces that Atsushi put up a week or so ago by Toldra. Can someone tell me what these are? Are they arias from one opera? Or what?
I did a little research on these pieces, since I enjoyed them and was also curious as to what exactly they were. Here is what I found:
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1. The Curse of Count Arnau
2. Sun rising in Camperola
3. The rose
4. The daughter of the Merchant
5. Empuries
1. La maledicció del comte Arnau [The Curse of Count Arnau] (lyrical impression, 1926-30)
2. Camperola [The Farm] (sardana, 1923)
Sol ixent [The Sun Rises] (sardana, 1922)
3. La rosa als llavis [The rose to the lips] (1936)
4. La filla del marxant [The Merchant's Daughter] (suite, 1934)
5. Empúries [Invocacion to Empordà] (1926)
The only one that is actually a song is Track 3. The others are all orchestral or chamber orchestral pieces. NOTE: Track 2 is actually two separate works (in the order of my listing). Hope this helps!
Thank you so much, Latvian. Appreciate your taking the time to research this.
Jerry
Thanks mrjansons for your latest link! It is an Aladdin's cave for me. So far I have particularly appreciated the video of Mendelssohn-Bartholdy's Elijah, and the youngish group struggling with Schönberg's First Chamber Symphony. And I believe there are there a considerable number of other Spanish unknowns, beyond Torres, to be discovered and investigated.