In the past discussions there seems to have been mentions of Violin concertos by Romantic masters (forgotten or not!). I thought we could compile a list and hopefully someone (Hyperion eg.) might take it into consideration!
1st off the Reynaldo Hahn - Violin concerto
Bortkiewicz - Violin Concerto in D major op. 22 (and also the cello concerto)
Lyapunov - Violin Concerto in D Minor, Op. 61
Ignaz Brüll - Violin Concerto in A minor Op. 41
Friedrich Gernsheim - Violin Concerto no. 1 in D major, op. 42
Violin Concerto no. 2 in F, op. 86
Carl Reinecke - Violin concerto in G minor, opus 141
Julius Conus - Violin Concerto in E minor
Christian Sinding - Violin Concerto No.1 in A Major, Op.45
Violin Concerto No.2 in D Major, Op.60
Violin Concerto No.3 in A minor, Op.119
Haydn Wood - Violin Concerto in B minor (1933)
Joseph Holbrooke - Grasshopper Violin Concerto
Jean-Baptiste Accolay - Violin concertos(no.'s ?)
Karl Goldmark - Violin Concerto no. 2
Emil Młynarski - two Violin Concerti
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Let the List Begin!!!!!!
The Lyapounov was recorded in the 78rpm era and certainly needs a modern recording, but the Reinecke VC, Conus VC, Sinding VC1 and Mlynarski VC2 have all received perfectly good recordings in recent years, so efforts should surely be focussed elsewhere on the list.
Goldmark's VC2 has often come up on the previous incarnation of the forum, but nobody seems to know of its whereabouts.
To the list I would add:
Dubois VC in D minor
Thieriot VC1 in A major
Scharwenka P. VC in G major
Hiller VC in A major
Becker R. VC1 in A Minor
VC2 in E minor
Cliffe VC in D minor
Moór VC2 in G major
VC3 in E major
Stojowski in G major
Litolff VC in E minor 'Eroica'
Marteau VC in C major
Huber VC1 in G minor
Sinigaglia VC in A major
d'Erlanger VC in D minor
Some reminders: cpo will be bringing out the VCs by Klughardt, Herzogenberg and Weingartner.
I was aware of the Reinecke (cpo) and Sinding (Naxos) CDs, and I think it was Kennedy who did the Mlynarski 2 (I forget the label). But the only recording of the Conus I can recall is the old LP by Heifetz (RCA). Is there a more recent CD recording, or is the Conus a re-release of the old Heifetz?
The Conus has been recorded by David Garrett on DG - an excellent modern performance. The Mlynarski (VC2) was also recorded in 1990 by Konstanty Kulka on the Polskie Nagrania label.
Did not Kennedy also do Mlynarski 2 a bit more recently? And why doesn't Mlynarski 1 get attention? For example, I've always had a soft spot for Wieniawski VC 1, despite the fact that Wieniawski 2 was the "repertory" piece.
Also, someone might want to check with Phil Gorse over at the Ignaz Brull Project to see if there is any kind of performance activity or recording projects in the works for the Brull VC. I know that Cameo Classics has recorded the second movement, but I'd be much more interested in the entire work, especially the 'Aeolian mode' finale.
Finally, I think Jon Frohnen (who we should get in touch with about the new Forum) did mention at the old venue that the 5 violin concertos of Antonio Bazzini were being considered by Naxos.
As I've said before, my hope is that Naxos will turn their attention to the many unrecorded VCs which have rather more substance than those churned out by the 19thC violinist-composers.
The Mlynarski VC2 was indeed recorded by Kennedy - but Kulka is just as good.
I think we can expect Cameo Classics to be planning to record the whole of the Brüll VC in the near future. A coupling in the form of a VC by another Germano-Jewish composer would seem to be appropriate...
I have still to proof-read and complete Phil Gorse's performing edition of the Brull VC. Sorry.
Quote from: JimL on Saturday 30 May 2009, 18:42
I was aware of the Reinecke (cpo) and Sinding (Naxos) CDs, and I think it was Kennedy who did the Mlynarski 2 (I forget the label). But the only recording of the Conus I can recall is the old LP by Heifetz (RCA). Is there a more recent CD recording, or is the Conus a re-release of the old Heifetz?
The Conus can be found on CHAN 9622, but the composer's name is given as Yuly Konyus. The violinist on that disc is Csüry. The Heifetz recording has also been released on CD, as part of a 65 disc set, called The Heifetz Collection. It is located in volume 20.
But it is a fine work, and I would not object to Hyperion recording it again!
I knew Chandos had also done the Conus - but couldn't locate it. Now I remember the problem with the transliteration of the composer's name!
As for the Brüll VC, I didn't mean to give you the hurry-up, Gareth - I was just reporting what I had understood of Cameo's plans. Apologies.
Yes Gareth, your work has been commendable. Keep it up! :)
Here is my wish list for violin concertos t be recorded:
Natanael Berg: Violin concerto
Hjalmar Borgström: Violin concerto
Karl Heinrich David: Violin concertos
Frederic d'Erlanger: Violin concerto
Friedrich Gernsheim: Violin concertos
Gustaf Heintze: Violin concertos
Joseph Holbrooke: Violin concerto
Joseph Jongen: Violin concerto
Paul Juon: Violin concerto 1
Rudolf Karel: Symphony for violin and orchestra
Elisabeth Kuyper: Violin concerto
Joseph Lauber: Violin concerto
just to name a few...
Information about recordings are warmly welcomed! ;)
Best,
Tobias
www.violinconcerto.de (http://www.violinconcerto.de)
Hi all
I like just about all the 'wishlist' ideas - and thanks for reference to Becker, Hiller and Jongen in particular. Would also suggest Heinrich Urban's 1870s concerto - have heard it played through on v and p. It deserves recorded treatment.
Others I am curious about are those by the US-adopted German composer, Leopold Damrosch. His concertos receive solid praise from Toskey and Swalin.
regards
Peter
I listened to the Stanley Bate ,only the other day. Wonderful piece.Who knows what unsung delights are out there.
Is there a commercial recording of any of the Bale violin concertos resp. where did you get your recording?
Best,
Tobias
www.violinconcerto.de
Dear me! Looks like we've forgotten poor Ferdinand David again! I believe there are 5 concertos, the last of which (D Minor?) was considered a masterpiece in the day. I'd be particularly interested in hearing if Mendelssohn cribbed any ideas from his friend for his own VC.
As a latecomer to this particular topic, I would nevertheless like to raise awareness of the Violin Concerto in A Op15 & Rhapsody for violin and orchestra Op9 by Ignatz Waghalter. I met with the composer's grandson in London earlier this year and he very kindly provided me with copies of the full scores of both works - on paper at any rate they look most enticing (both written before WWI) and a suggested recording project would be a coupling with the Philipp Scharwenka Op95 (Waghalter studied with PS for a very short time!). Anyway perhaps I could add the above to the wishlist...............
Hello Martin - and welcome to the Forum!
I'd never heard of Waghalter at all, although I see there's a website...
http://www.waghalter.com/index.html (http://www.waghalter.com/index.html)
The project sounds fascinating: have you mentioned it to any record labels yet? And what's the music like?
Further to my earlier note re Ignatz Waghalter I would firstly strongly recommend the CD which includes a String Quartet and Violin Sonata plus several shorter pieces (available through the Waghalter website). His music is perhaps as one might expect - i.e. late 19th century German romantic - Waghalter was renowned for his lyricism in his music and this is certainly evident in his chamber works. The Violin Concerto and Rhapsody seem to follow in this vein (as far as I can ascertain from the full scores - my score reading ability is somewhat rudimentary!) and therefore surely would be most suitable for a recording project as mentioned in my previous post! At present the scores are with Mike Spring at Hyperion but would be some time before they could be fitted in to their recording schedules assuming they wished to proceed. I have also mentioned this to Martin Anderson although this would not be top of his agenda at present!
Maybe we could get the score of the P. Scharwenka VC into his hands as well, along with a note on why they would make such a good pairing.
To Tobias. Yes indeed,there is! It is available on the Dutton Vocalian label.
You can also order it direct from their website. It is a tremendous piece.
Hello Pengelli,
thanks for the hint!
But in fact the piece on the Dutton release is the *viola* concerto by Bate! So the violin concertos by him remain unrecorded?
Best,
Tobias
Hi all
Just a thank you nod to Jiml for placing Ferdinand David firmly in the limelight again. He was a very big name in his time, influential and respected by all as a virtuoso, teacher and composer. If I could slap the money down to pay for an orchestra and soloist, we would have all of his concertos on some label by Xmas.
Mind you, I think they will mostly be superbly constructed virtuoso showpieces rather than the type of concertos put together by composers of the stature of Brhams, Raff, Reinecke, Bruch, Tchaikovsky etc. Not that early romantic bravura 'violinist composer' works are a problem for me - the more in recorded form, the better.
regards
Peter
I suspect that his earlier works may be more of the "virtuoso-composer" type, but I'd be willing to bet that his later works are more ambitious attempts to create a more symphonic concerto. I'd match your offer, Peter, to see if I'm right.
To Tobias
How embarassing. I think I've been drinking too much real ale. Yes of course,it is the Viola Concerto!! Chandos,however,are apparently very interested in Bate!
Chandos told me in a response to a query,that they intend to record Stanley
Bate's symphonies. I hope so.I was very impressed by his 3rd.
What about the lovely Violin concerto by Gorge Dayson(?) recorded on Chandos!
We are forgetting Franz Clement. He composed several VC's one of which was an inspiration for Beethoven's VC.
Quote from: JimL on Thursday 01 October 2009, 23:08
Maybe we could get the score of the P. Scharwenka VC into his hands as well, along with a note on why they would make such a good pairing.
I would be very surprised, Jim, if Mike Spring did not already have a copy of this work.
Quote from: FBerwald on Saturday 24 October 2009, 09:09
What about the lovely Violin concerto by Gorge Dayson(?) recorded on Chandos!
You mean George Dyson? Lovely concerto!
Best,
Tobias
www.violinconcerto.de
I was looking at the score of Gernsheim's Violin Concerto no. 1 on IMSLP and thought it sounded very promising. Anyone know if there are plans to record this concerto?
thanks!
I know of no plans, unfortunately.
Apologies if, as a latecomer to this thread, I'm repeating any earlier details. The following link, sent to me by the society, leads to some possibly interesting pieces I haven't heard of elsewhere.
Do any of these (e.g. the Huss or Henry Rowe Shelley) make the list??
http://maudpowell.org/home/SearchResults/tabid/83/Default.aspx (http://maudpowell.org/home/SearchResults/tabid/83/Default.aspx)
Quote from: Richard Moss on Tuesday 13 July 2010, 22:09
Apologies if, as a latecomer to this thread, I'm repeating any earlier details. The following link, sent to me by the society, leads to some possibly interesting pieces I haven't heard of elsewhere.
Do any of these (e.g. the Huss or Henry Rowe Shelley) make the list??
http://maudpowell.org/home/SearchResults/tabid/83/Default.aspx (http://maudpowell.org/home/SearchResults/tabid/83/Default.aspx)
I wonder if "Henry Rowe Shelley" is a misprint for "Harry Rowe Shelley"?
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Right now I'm listening to the Violin Concerto by Alexi Matchavariani, with the first two movements successfully downloaded for free from the composer's son's website:
http://www.matchavariani.ge/alexi/rec.html
It's really QUITE amazing, like Rachmaninoff and Korngold in the same soul.
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Can anyone tell me if Stanford's 2nd VC exists in full score, or just in violin/piano reduction?
Let's not let this thread become an exchange about VCs we happen to have heard. The topic is: Violin Concerto Wishlist!
It's only probably Romantic- I've yet to see or hear it - but I'd love a recording of Evgeni Golubev's violin concerto (op. 56, 1970?, pub. 1973). Judging from syms. 5&7 (I don't know the somewhat more contemporary sym. 6, and the more astringent and even more contemporary-to-the-concerto quartets 8&9 may not be good comparisons since his chamber music and orchestral music seemed to run in different streams as far as I know- with some relations? I don't actually know though...) there is a good strong vein of Myaskovskian Russian Romanticism from his teacher and much talent. (One piano concerto is on CD, and his cello concerto was recorded by Svetlanov - may have been on CD.)
I hadn't known Huss had written a violin concerto. I'm at least moderately curious about his music, and I now see there's an interesting-seeming book about his life and works browsable on Google books...
And how are the Nachéz concertos posted on IMSLP? I don't know if they are recorded or not, actually.
Eric
To rehash more extensive comments in an old thread... I would welcome a modern recording of the Robert McBride VC with it's lush, Straussian slow movement.
It's probably been mentioned above, but I'm extremely eager to hear Draeseke's VC in its reconstructed orchestral garb.
Forget if this has been mentioned (probably), but of works in the first post, Sinding concerto 1 and Reinecke's have been recorded. Also, do works that appeared in the LP era but not yet on CD (like Capoianu's fine 1957 concerto) count? (Then again, I mentioned that one in another thread already some while back, I think. Darn.)
Eric
Quote from: JimL on Wednesday 14 July 2010, 06:05
Can anyone tell me if Stanford's 2nd VC exists in full score, or just in violin/piano reduction?
I only just noticed the violin/piano reduction in a library listing and figured out what you were talking about (Morgan-Pierpont Library, concerto 2 in G minor, 1918) - intriguing!
Now I wouldn't mind knowing, either. Hopefully can be reconstructed or just played as is as an odd sort of violin sonata-ish-thing if not- something like that shouldn't be hidden. (And I hope that Hyperion continues the string quartet series - I want to hear a good recording of the 3rd - but that's really off-topic. Sorry. :) )
Eric
Quote from: JimL on Wednesday 14 July 2010, 06:05
Can anyone tell me if Stanford's 2nd VC exists in full score, or just in violin/piano reduction?
There is always a little bit of confusion about the number of concertos he wrote. Here are his concertos for violin listed by Groves
(1) Violin Concerto (early, 1875)
(2) Violin Concerto in D major, Op. 74
(3) Violin Concerto No. 2 in G minor, Op.162 (1918)
The D major Op.74 concerto was recorded by hyperion. The G minor Op.162 I believe exists in piano reduction as is the case with the 3rd(4th in order of composition) piano concerto Op. 171!
Quote from: FBerwald on Monday 23 August 2010, 19:35
Quote from: JimL on Wednesday 14 July 2010, 06:05
Can anyone tell me if Stanford's 2nd VC exists in full score, or just in violin/piano reduction?
There is always a little bit of confusion about the number of concertos he wrote. Here are his concertos for violin listed by Groves
(1) Violin Concerto (early, 1875)
(2) Violin Concerto in D major, Op. 74
(3) Violin Concerto No. 2 in G minor, Op.162 (1918)
The D major Op.74 concerto was recorded by hyperion. The G minor Op.162 I believe exists in piano reduction as is the case with the 3rd(4th in order of composition) piano concerto Op. 171!
Hrm. Had read that the op.171 was completed, not orchestrated, but you may be right... as to op.162, came across this (http://www.worldcat.org/title/violin-concerto-no-2-cv-stanford-op-162-autograph-manuscript-1918-sept-20/oclc/270569607) Pierpont Morgan Library reference for the reduced (manuscript as noted) score- it may have been completed September 20 1918 (to quote the summary OCLC/Worldcat provides, of course one can go to PML's library catalog also -
'At the end: "CV Stanford / Sep[?] 20 [19]18."')
Eric (no idea where the scores of opp 20 (cello conc.) and 171 are about- maybe the British Library, maybe private collections...)
Quote from: tcutler on Monday 23 August 2010, 19:16
Add to the list the violin concertos of two of Brahms' students, Gustav Jenner and Richard von Perger. I'd like to hear these.
I didn't know that Jenner wrote a VC. Any information on this, Tim?
Quote from: Alan Howe on Tuesday 24 August 2010, 19:23
Quote from: tcutler on Monday 23 August 2010, 19:16
Add to the list the violin concertos of two of Brahms' students, Gustav Jenner and Richard von Perger. I'd like to hear these.
I didn't know that Jenner wrote a VC. Any information on this, Tim?
This would interest me also, whether in form of manuscript location or performance history-
Eric
One VC which I would very much like to hear would be that in A major, Op.20 from 1902 by Leone Sinigaglia (1868-1944) - according to Toskey a 40-minute work.
Quote from: eschiss1 on Tuesday 24 August 2010, 18:00
Quote from: FBerwald on Monday 23 August 2010, 19:35
Quote from: JimL on Wednesday 14 July 2010, 06:05
Can anyone tell me if Stanford's 2nd VC exists in full score, or just in violin/piano reduction?
There is always a little bit of confusion about the number of concertos he wrote. Here are his concertos for violin listed by Groves
(1) Violin Concerto (early, 1875)
(2) Violin Concerto in D major, Op. 74
(3) Violin Concerto No. 2 in G minor, Op.162 (1918)
The D major Op.74 concerto was recorded by hyperion. The G minor Op.162 I believe exists in piano reduction as is the case with the 3rd(4th in order of composition) piano concerto Op. 171!
Hrm. Had read that the op.171 was completed, not orchestrated, but you may be right... as to op.162, came across this (http://www.worldcat.org/title/violin-concerto-no-2-cv-stanford-op-162-autograph-manuscript-1918-sept-20/oclc/270569607) Pierpont Morgan Library reference for the reduced (manuscript as noted) score- it may have been completed September 20 1918 (to quote the summary OCLC/Worldcat provides, of course one can go to PML's library catalog also -
'At the end: "CV Stanford / Sep[?] 20 [19]18."')
Eric (no idea where the scores of opp 20 (cello conc.) and 171 are about- maybe the British Library, maybe private collections...)
The only Stanford Cello Concerto I know of was the one recorded on Lyrita with Geoffrey Bush's orchestration of the Op. 171 PC. I could have sworn that the Hyperion liner notes for the Op. 74 concerto said that there was a full score of the G minor concerto somewhere, but I could be mistaken...
That's the Stanford cello concerto I meant- I may have misremembered the opus # off the top of my head. Again, not sure where the score or reduced score is though :) (and apologies for digression from violin concerto topic. I assume someone's mentioned Sinding's 2nd and 3rd concertos?)
Stanford's Cello Concerto is an early work, and like most if not all of his early and student efforts, he suppressed it. It is without an opus number. I think the full score was at Cambridge, or perhaps at the RAM.
The only thing I can tell you about a possible Jenner Violin Concerto comes from this link
http://books.google.com/books?id=FNJ6Ua9iaUoC&pg=PA262-IA12&lpg=PA262-IA12&dq=gustav+jenner+violin+concerto&source=bl&ots=v1WptKZsWX&sig=X9KYZ1J_4DvtJhn9a7jPruM9Gyk&hl=en&ei=1dt0TPGpFYy3ngf3ttDGBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CBkQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=gustav%20jenner%20violin%20concerto&f=false (http://books.google.com/books?id=FNJ6Ua9iaUoC&pg=PA262-IA12&lpg=PA262-IA12&dq=gustav+jenner+violin+concerto&source=bl&ots=v1WptKZsWX&sig=X9KYZ1J_4DvtJhn9a7jPruM9Gyk&hl=en&ei=1dt0TPGpFYy3ngf3ttDGBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CBkQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=gustav%20jenner%20violin%20concerto&f=false)
Read the first paragraph of the Vienna, March 15, 1906 report, and it mentions a Jenner Violin Concerto in E-flat. I haven't looked any further on the topic yet.
It's curious. I can find no reference to a Jenner VC anywhere. Of course, his 3rd Violin Sonata is also in E flat, so it might be an error. However, it is intriguing, I must admit...
QuoteOne VC which I would very much like to hear would be that in A major, Op.20 from 1902 by Leone Sinigaglia (1868-1944) - according to Toskey a 40-minute work.
The British Libray has full score, violin part and piano score of this work. I note the library holds 2 copies of the piano/violin score + part, so one of these may be borrowable via inter-library loan.
Thanks, Gareth.
Most Google Books links btw need only be quoted up to the page mark - for example, in the case of the Jenner-related link recently,
http://books.google.com/books?id=FNJ6Ua9iaUoC&pg=PA262-IA12 (http://books.google.com/books?id=FNJ6Ua9iaUoC&pg=PA262-IA12)
does as well (though it omits the search term highlighting.) This allows them to be made more brief :) Anyhow, thanks! (And I note with interest the reference to Robert Fuchs' violin sonata in E, too ;) )
Eric
Unfortunately, Google restricts many Google Books full displays to the US,. We Europeans aren't allowed to see more than the book title.
I also wondered if the Jenner reference to a violin concerto might be a mistake. It reminds me of a passage from either the Emery or Toskey violin encyclopedias in which it claims Massenet wrote a violin concerto. Tantalizing, but unfortunately untrue. Massenet planned to write a violin concerto, but it never ended up happening.
Anyone familiar with the music of Jenner? Is it worth a listen?
I have a few CDs of Jenner's music - it is unfailingly generous and well-written, but, of course, very Brahmsian. I'd recommend the violin sonatas on Divox - audio excerpts here...
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Gustav-Jenner-Violinsonaten-Nr-1-3/hnum/3944741 (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Gustav-Jenner-Violinsonaten-Nr-1-3/hnum/3944741)
No.3, which may have been the 'concerto' mentioned, is particularly lovely.
Quote from: tcutler on Thursday 26 August 2010, 10:50
I also wondered if the Jenner reference to a violin concerto might be a mistake. It reminds me of a passage from either the Emery or Toskey violin encyclopedias in which it claims Massenet wrote a violin concerto. Tantalizing, but unfortunately untrue. Massenet planned to write a violin concerto, but it never ended up happening.
Anyone familiar with the music of Jenner? Is it worth a listen?
Oh please ??? Lets NOT go into the whole mistaken encyclopedia entries... I once (much earlier on this forum) went on a wild goose chase (along with a whole bunch eager members) behind Glasunov's alleged "Violin concerto in A MAjor Op. 77" as mentioned in Groves Dictionary. As it turned out Groves had royally screwed up when they printed
that bit of info in Glazunov's list of compositions!!!!! .... :o :o :o I still have nightmares about it!! :o :o :o
PS: I really hope Groves was right as I love Glazunov and would love another violin concerto by him ..... like I waited years ;D for the Bortkiewicz Piano concerti No 2 and 3 ...and ::) ::) still waiting for the Goldmark Violin concerto No 2 (which I am sure exists in Manuscript :-\ somewhere!!!!)
I've removed three posts about the lady who is refusing access to Sterndale Bennett manuscripts. Just remember that, as owner of this site, I'm held responsible for what is said here. Even if it's meant to be funny....
Wow! That third one must have been a doozy!
Indeed there are all sorts of legal ramifications now.
Yikes!! Never wanted to open a can of worms ... Actually since i didn't read the others........ Sorry anyways!!!!
Just to back up Mark, members must take due note of the fact that this is a publicly accessible forum, not merely some sort of ring-fenced private club. That means that Mark and I have to take very seriously postings which might give offence or might actually be legally actionable. It is a full-time job and we greatly appreciate your co-operation in pursuing discussions which are robust, but gentlemanly - and which do not leave us vulnerable to criticism or even action by anyone who happens to come across the forum and takes justifiable exception to anything posted.
Thanks Alan. OK, moving on...
Quote from: tcutler on Saturday 01 January 2011, 13:51
One violin concerto on my wishlist would be Wieniawski's unpublished A-minor Concerto of 1878. I can find hardly anything about this alleged composition. Did Wieniawski finish it? Where is the manuscript? Or is this just an urban legend? Does anyone have information on this piece?
Apparently (according to a hint given by the snippet-view at Google?) some evidence that it might have existed is provided by Edmund Grabkowski in his 1986 book on Wieniawski, based on contemporary clippings of a premiere of the work on December 27 of that year. A book (magazine?) "Polish music: Polnische Musik" from 1985 reports the same (in German), reporting that it was in Moscow. (I believe this was his last concert tour, perhaps one of his last concerts.)
Eric
Arthur Benjamin's 1932 Violin Concerto is a superb piece and deserves a modern digital recording. I know it from two radio recordings (one BBC and the other Australian radio). It is sparsely orchestrated, late romantic in style and its music is more attractive and memorable, in my opinion, than his later piano concerto.
I apologize if, as a newcomer, I read here and there past posts (taking interest in them, and sometimes thinking I have something to add, even if late).
In reply 46 I read about an interest in the Violin Concerto by Leone Sinigaglia. I heard (and saw) a live performance about twenty five years ago (Vadim Brodsky was performing). I remember the agreable Concerto as one not on a very large scale; I would say it was a little shorter than half an our.
I would like, as a wished priority, a modern recording of both the two "Danze Piemontesi" op.31 of 1905.
Arthur Fiedler recorded the first with the Boston Pops (that was -I suppose-a legacy of Alfredo Casella work as conductor in Boston, like the Minuetto by Giovanni Bolzoni, which, also recorded by Fiedler, was recorded again in the '90s by N.Jaarvi in Detroit).
Today, in a confirmation email of my purchase of their CD of Brüll's Symphony, David Kant-Watson of Cameo Classics advises that in June they will record the Brüll Violin Concerto. It should be available in August, coupled with Serenades by Jadassohn.
That's good news. Another mid-Romantic VC gap filled. Hopefully!
Yes. This is indeed the plan. Michael Laus, the conductor of the Malta Philharmonic Orchestra, has been working on an edition, using original MS sources. The MPO are a superior band to the Belarusians and Karelians and they certainly play well for Maestro Laus - so I am keeping my fingers crossed that all will go according to plan. recently recorded with MPO for Cameo are: Holbrooke: Pierot & Poerette Suite for Strings; Robin Milford: Suite for oboe & strings; Cyril Scott: Harpsichord Concerto, and Alexander Mackenzie's Symphonic Poem "La Belle Dame Sans Merci". Among other works planned for reciording with the MPO are Walter Gaze Cooper's Concertino for oboe & strings, Bantock's "Macbeth", Septimus Kelly's Serenade for Flute, with accompaniment of Horn, Harp and strings and Maurice Blower's Horn Concerto.
Quote from: Gareth Vaughan on Sunday 10 April 2011, 21:46The MPO are a superior band to the Belarusians and Karelians
I'm glad to hear that. I trust that the band will have the heft in the string department missing in certain other CC releases...
Some heft is better than no heft, say I. There are some lovely things in the above to which I look forward (with a strong degree of heft!)
German authors believe strongly in Heft I and Heft II, yes *flees* sorry
Quote from: Gareth Vaughan on Sunday 10 April 2011, 21:46Yes. This is indeed the plan. Michael Laus, the conductor of the Malta Philharmonic Orchestra, has been working on an edition, using original MS sources.
Weren't you working on an edition, Gareth? Did you provide any input for this project? Hopefully, it will be well engineered, 'cause if it's well-received, I'll snap it up. Who's the soloist?
Does anyone know what state Vitezslav Novak's violin concerto is in, if it still exists? I only recently learned there was one. A CD of his piano and violin concertos with any needed filler perhaps might be interesting, or something along those lines...
Some of the Kalliwoda violin concertinos apparently have been recorded by Willens and the Kölner Akademie, and will be released soon? It's on the latter's website. Couplings are Kalliwoda overtures. (cpo apparently.)
I would love to hear Robin Milford's VC op.47 of 1937. Dutton has done so much putting the minor masters back on the map. When will they start with Milford?
"Today, in a confirmation email of my purchase of their CD of Brüll's Symphony, David Kant-Watson of Cameo Classics advises that in June they will record the Brüll Violin Concerto. It should be available in August, coupled with Serenades by Jadassohn."
Anyone know if/when this CD will be released? Thanks!
well .. well.... I see that BIS is releasing in March the much anticipated Borgstrom Violin Concerto. Can't wait:
http://bis.se/performers/hemsing-eldbjorg/borgstrom-and-shostakovich-violin-concertos
Much anticipated? By whom exactly? Although I had noticed the release, there was no great sense of expectation on my part as the work has already been recorded...
https://www.mdt.co.uk/borgstrom-violin-concerto-symphonic-poems-batstrand-mortensen-norrlandsoperan-boye-simax.html (https://www.mdt.co.uk/borgstrom-violin-concerto-symphonic-poems-batstrand-mortensen-norrlandsoperan-boye-simax.html)
...and discussed on this forum:
http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php/topic,446.msg6089.html#msg6089 (http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php/topic,446.msg6089.html#msg6089)
In any case, the new release has an entirely inappropriate coupling. The performance would have to be super-special to entice me into a purchase...
I must say I am largely in agreement with Alan. I have the Simax CD - and I think it is pretty good. I certainly wouldn't mind hearing a different performance of the Borgstrom VC, but there are (for me, at least) some recordings I would like to buy first. I also agree that, while I personally like Shostakovich, it does seem an odd coupling.
As an avid collector of Norwegian music, I wonder how I could have missed the Simax release, and now here is another recording of the concerto that I wasn't aware of. I'll probably give this new release a try. I attended a concert by the soloist's elder sister, Ragnhild Hemsing, a while back, and was impressed by her playing. The two sisters can be seen in an interesting, IMHO, documentary in which they search for the tone of Ole Bull:
https://vimeo.com/18657045
(also on YT)
That said, 9 years later, our "wishlist" of the OP[ost] isn't doing so badly (of course could be better, but "not so badly" isn't supposed to mean great). All 3 Sinding concertos are recorded at least once each, there's a fine recording of the 2 by Gernsheim, there're 2 [edit: 1, my mistake.] of the Reinecke... not sure how many new recordings have come out of the Conus, but that was the one work on the list that had been recorded a few times already, I thought... - the Holbrooke's been recorded once with full orchestra and twice with piano, I believe there's one or two recordings of the Lyapunov, one and a third of the Brüll...
may be time for a new "wishlist" (though as per revised policy on lists, something to say on each item before it goes on a list) - yes? no? wthamIthinking?
Quotethere're 2 of the Reinecke
Chapter and verse, please, Eric!
Hrm. For some reason I thought there was one on Claves too. You're right, there's just the Reinecke violin concerto recording on cpo. (cpo: Violin concerto & symphony 1. Signum: Harp concerto & symphony 3. Claves: Harp concerto & flute concerto? Ok, 6 degrees of Reinecke concertos and confuzzled Eric. Mrfle. Edit: though v'oddly, Kevin Bacon is -not- credited with any of them. A curious omission.)
most of the rest of the initial list seems to have done ok too (the Hahn is available @ Maguelone as of 2013. The Bortkiewicz @ Dutton... both Mlynarski concertos are now on Hyperion. Same I think with the Haydn Wood? (The apparent non-existence or at least total disappearance of the remaining item, the Goldmark no.2, has militated somewhat against its gravitating to the top 10 charts even with the other weirdness this year. Somewhat to my surprise.)
So what's left?
On that initial list, maybe the other two Accolay concertos.
Of the list you posted next - Dubois, Thieriot, ... the Dubois was recorded in 2011 or so, the Scharwenka - now reissued in study score - has not I think been recorded yet and neither have any (most?) of Thieriot's concertos, not yet some of these others (Moór, Marteau, Litolff, Huber, Becker) - but of the violin concertos on your list (http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php/topic,59.msg452.html#msg452) the Sinigaglia, d'Erlanger, Cliffe, Stojowski (as well as the Dubois yes) have been recorded...
as to http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php/topic,59.msg2184.html#msg2184 (http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php/topic,59.msg2184.html#msg2184) we've recently noted two recordings of the Borgstrom (good news); there are also recordings of the d'Erlanger, Gernsheim, Holbrooke, Jongen, Kuyper (recorded in 2014)- the others, it seems, notsomuch? (No recording of the Berg noted at Levandes Musikarchiv (http://www.swedishmusicalheritage.com/composers/berg-natanael/SMH-W3889-Violin_concerto_E_minor) or found @ Worldcat, fwiw.) Assuming Heintze is Heintze the younger, no recording of his B minor concerto noted at LM (http://www.swedishmusicalheritage.com/composers/berg-natanael/SMH-W3889-Violin_concerto_E_minor) either. Will check Worldcat eg though...
I was not aware the Sinigaglia VC had been recorded, Eric. Do you know by whom and where I can obtain a copy?
Ah, yes. Sorry - correction. There it is: historic recording by Alfonso Mosesti (violin) with Orchestra Sinfonica di Roma della RAI, coupled with VC by Illersberg. Must try and get that disk.
See this thread for details, Gareth:
http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php/topic,6476.msg68384.html#msg68384 (http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php/topic,6476.msg68384.html#msg68384)
I mentioned a violin concerto by Vitezslav Novák that apparently may actually, I gather now, have been misattributed and actually be by Jan Václav Novák. Pity... I would have found an 1910-ca. violin concerto by V. Novák really neat. (I think the work has been recorded, anyway, so will try to have a listen to it. How good a work is _shouldn't_ actually depend on whether "Beethoven" or "Witt" - or "Weber" or "Reissiger" - or "Bach" or Kellner/Ringk - is the name on the published score/copy :) (but yes, how well it will do no doubt will.) )
I think that's the very RAI broadcast recording of the Sinigaglia that was also available on RAI online (together with a recording of one of Bazzini's concertos...) as an online download/stream and in which form we had it in our Downloads section at one point- but I'm not really sure.
It's also kind of neat that soon after user JimL posted his request for more concertos by Ferdinand David, Hyperion started complying (recording nos. 4&5 that winter (2009), releasing them the next spring.) :D
Ah! Now if only they would get around to Nos. 1, 2, and 3!
I'd say the Draeseke VC is a must-record...
I heartily agree.
QuoteI'd say the Draeseke VC is a must-record
I'd snap up such a recording in a second. But has the orchestration been finished? If so, has the orchestration been performed? (Many composers have touched up their orchestrations after hearing them in a hall...)
I have the orchestration done by Draeseke expert Wolfgang Müller-Steinbach and published by Florian Noetzel Verlag (fifth item):
http://noetzel-verlag.de/uploads/media/Wolfgang_Mueller-Steinbach-Ausgaben.pdf (http://noetzel-verlag.de/uploads/media/Wolfgang_Mueller-Steinbach-Ausgaben.pdf)
I assume Lassen's has been mentioned a few times already.
If Heikki Suolahti's A minor concerto is as good as his symphony (the MS full score has been uploaded to IMSLP, though its provenance is not specified :( ) then it definitely should be worth a go (and I'm fairly sure despite the 1934 date that it would be within our remit, also. I've heard his Sinfonia piccola a few times. Both are from a teenage composer, by the way.)
Linus Roth's upcoming concerts (at his own website) include this enigmatic entry:
18/6/ - 22/6/2018 Glasgow / Scotland: CD Recording with BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra / Antony Hermus
This must be a planned Hyperion RVC recording. Wonder what's on the menu???
Some of his concerts are listed at the Tirol Symphony Orchestra/Landestheater (https://www.tsoi.at/) website, I see?... There's a neat coincidence, pity Rufinatscha didn't compose a violin concerto... (e.g. May 24, 7th concert. Though the work he plays there is (1) a work he's recently- this year- recorded (2) outside our remit. A good work though, and it's surely no bad thing that a violinist has good and broad taste, recording good unusual works from many periods.)
...right, but what's Roth recording in Glasgow in June? And with Hyperion's go-to band?
don't know. and it seems that the orchestra's schedule ends in May or early June, so checking that schedule for any concerts that might give a clue won't work right now at least.
Roth usually records with other labels, I wonder if this is a long-term change?
Well, remember that Roth has been playing the Lassen VC...