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Title: Joseph Mayseder
Post by: mikehopf on Wednesday 19 April 2017, 07:13
Joseph Mayseder

Kammermusik Vol. 1
Lissy Quartett
CD 
Variationen über "Souvenir a Baden" op. 63 für Klavierquartett; Variationen op. 24 & 57 für Klavierquartett; Divertimento op. 35 für Violine & Klavier
Künstler: Lissy Quartett
Label: Gramola, DDD, 2016
Bestellnummer: 6486176
Erscheinungstermin: 18.4.201
Title: Re: Joseph Mayseder
Post by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 19 April 2017, 10:14
Nice, light, salon-style stuff - excerpts here:
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/joseph-mayseder-kammermusik-vol-1/hnum/6486176
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Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 19 April 2017, 13:31
Oh, hello -- A lot of chamber music - 7 at least string quartets, 4 at least string quintets - if they're serious about that "Vol. 1". Thanks!
Title: Re: Joseph Mayseder
Post by: semloh on Sunday 23 April 2017, 00:04
Yes, Eric, let's hope it's "the start of something big!"
Title: Re: Joseph Mayseder
Post by: Sharkkb8 on Thursday 16 November 2017, 08:34
Quote from: semloh on Sunday 23 April 2017, 00:04
Yes, Eric, let's hope it's "the start of something big!"

Vol. 2 just now being released.  String Quartets #5 and 6.

https://www.mdt.co.uk/mayseder-joseph-chamber-music-vol-2-lissy-quartett-gramola.html

Gregory
Title: Re: Joseph Mayseder
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 16 November 2017, 14:03
the parts of one or both of those two are on IMSLP I think. Would be nice to hear:)
Title: Re: Joseph Mayseder
Post by: matesic on Thursday 16 November 2017, 15:26
The link to Vol 2 implies the players are the Lissy Quartett as for Vol 1, but the disc cover (on NML) identifies the Mayseder Quartett whose first violin is Raimund Lissy!  You have to admire their dedication, or are all the other names used up? The first violin has to negotiate some pretty tricky contortions but musically it seems pretty standard "quatuor brillant" stuff with occasional echoes of Schubert. Actually not so surprising given the pieces both come from early in Mayseder's career.
Title: Re: Joseph Mayseder
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 16 November 2017, 15:40
if volume 1 and soon hopefully vol 2 is already on NML, I'll have a listen soon. Thanks. I used to avoid the quatuor brillant sound unheard until it occurred to me that both the Spohr op.33 - I adore both of them - are that to some extent, especially the E-flat. Of course I expect the adjective "standard" is the important thing and that Mayseder was no Spohr, but I hope for good things anyway while understanding they're more likely found elsewhere :)
Title: Re: Joseph Mayseder
Post by: Sharkkb8 on Thursday 02 August 2018, 01:09
Volume 3 is on the horizon, containing violin concertos. 

   Violin Concerto No. 1 in A Minor, Op. 22

   Violin Concerto No. 3 in D Major, Op. 28

   Violin Concertino No. 2 in E Major, Op. 53

At the Naxos site it merely says "physical release 2018", but a search on iTunes (USA) reveals that it's available for pre-order, and date "expected" is Sept 7. 

https://www.naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp?item_code=Gramola99181 (https://www.naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp?item_code=Gramola99181)
Title: Re: Joseph Mayseder
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 02 August 2018, 12:22
Nice-sounding stuff, vol.3 - and not too HIP, thank goodness!
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/violinkonzerte/hnum/8706606 (https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/violinkonzerte/hnum/8706606)
Title: Re: Joseph Mayseder
Post by: jonfrohnen on Wednesday 29 August 2018, 16:05
Listening to the concerto #1 right now, very dramatic  8)
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Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 16 September 2018, 20:17
This is a really beautiful CD. Mayseder's VCs aren't mere showpieces, but contain some glorious melodies as well as some highly dramatic - and adventurous - writing. In my view they're among the most significant early 19thC VCs. And, as I indicated before, the solo playing, though clean and accurate, isn't HIP - and the orchestral playing is warm and supportive. Highly recommended!
Title: Re: Joseph Mayseder
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 17 February 2019, 04:02
For those following this series, I see volume 4 has been announced (quartet no.2 Op.6 and quintet (typo on Naxos page :) ) no.2 Op.51 in G and A minor). I still have heard very little of it- so far.  Intending to. I have a soft spot for the time period generally-speaking-very, and what I've seen of the music in print hasn't hurt. (Apologies for the huge time gap.)
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Post by: Santo Neuenwelt on Sunday 17 February 2019, 20:03
Years ago, we found a better copy of the Mayseder String Quintet No.2 Op.51 in Budapest than what is currently available on IMSLP. Raimund Lissy after hearing the soundbites we had made of it by a mixed group of amateurs and pros sight reading, bought a copy from us and made his recording from it.(http://www.editionsilvertrust.com/mayseder-string-quintet2.htm) Lissy is a nice fellow. The other players of the Lissy Quartet are all members of the Vienna Phil. (the soundbites on our website, obviously, are not from his group but by ours)

There is a super performance on Youtube of Lissy and Adela Frasineanu of the Mayseder Duo for two violins, Op.32. By the way, the Mayseder Op.51 is a fun piece to play. I was one of the players who helped to make the soundbites. I think it is probably the best of his five string quintets. There is also a Mayserder website which is very interesting.
Title: Re: Joseph Mayseder
Post by: Mark Thomas on Monday 18 February 2019, 07:16
I must say that I found the violin concertos a delight: charming, urbane, melodious and never dull. So much so that I've just bought the two preceding recordings of his chamber music.
Title: Re: Joseph Mayseder
Post by: semloh on Monday 18 February 2019, 09:49
Fortunately, for those of us who don't have the CDs, there's a good selection of Mayseder's music on YT, including part of the 3rd VC at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1rgoBWHGVs  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1rgoBWHGVs)

It all certainly bears out the enthusiasm expressed here.  :)
Title: Re: Joseph Mayseder
Post by: Mark Thomas on Monday 18 February 2019, 12:07
As well as this series of three CDs/Downloads on the Gramola label, there's a recording of Mayseder's Violin  Sonata No.1 coupled with Beethoven's Kreutzer Sonata here (http://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/7954185--beethoven-explored-volume-2), and vol.4 of the Gramola series, with String Quartet No.2 and String Quintet No.2, is due out any day now in the UK, but already available direct from the label itself here  (http://www.gramola.at/en/shop/produkte/kammermusik/gramola/wiener+mayseder+ensemble/joseph+mayseder/140664/)(with audio extracts). 
Title: Re: Joseph Mayseder
Post by: Sharkkb8 on Tuesday 18 June 2019, 01:16
Vol. 4 from Gramola has been out for a while now, containing a string quartet and a string quintet:

https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8550258--joseph-mayseder-chamber-music-vol-4 (https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8550258--joseph-mayseder-chamber-music-vol-4)

....and I now see Vol. 5 on the horizon, with several chamber pieces.  The disc is listed on Gramola's own site, but oddly enough, the only other place I see it so far is Amazon USA, with a July 19 release date. It appears that the usual places - Presto, Europadisc, Archiv, etc. - only list the first 4 cd's in the series at this point.

https://www.gramola.at/de/shop/produkte/kammermusik/gramola/thomas+christian,ensemble+violissymo/joseph+mayseder/141136/ (https://www.gramola.at/de/shop/produkte/kammermusik/gramola/thomas+christian,ensemble+violissymo/joseph+mayseder/141136/)

https://www.amazon.com/Ensemble-VioLissymo-Joseph-Mayseder-Virtuosenwerke/dp/B07QXMQ2DP/ref=sr_1_161?fst=as%3Aoff&qid=1560815896&refinements=p_n_date%3A1249114011&rnid=1249111011&s=music&sr=1-161 (https://www.amazon.com/Ensemble-VioLissymo-Joseph-Mayseder-Virtuosenwerke/dp/B07QXMQ2DP/ref=sr_1_161?fst=as%3Aoff&qid=1560815896&refinements=p_n_date%3A1249114011&rnid=1249111011&s=music&sr=1-161)
Title: Re: Joseph Mayseder
Post by: mikehopf on Friday 26 July 2019, 05:11
Vol. 5 is now out!
Title: Re: Joseph Mayseder
Post by: semloh on Friday 26 July 2019, 07:25
Excellent news, Mike.
This is truly the era of the Unsung Composer - at least as far as commercial recordings goes!
Title: Re: Joseph Mayseder
Post by: Sharkkb8 on Tuesday 26 November 2019, 21:03
Gramola label continues their Mayseder series, volume 6 is due out at the beginning of the new year.  Two Piano Trios and a Violin Sonata.  I only see it at Amazon [USA] at this point. 

https://www.amazon.com/Joseph-Mayseder-6-Lissy-Gelleva/dp/B07ZW9PYL7/ref=sr_1_155?fst=as%3Aoff&qid=1574800841&refinements=p_n_date%3A1249114011&rnid=1249111011&s=music&sr=1-155 (https://www.amazon.com/Joseph-Mayseder-6-Lissy-Gelleva/dp/B07ZW9PYL7/ref=sr_1_155?fst=as%3Aoff&qid=1574800841&refinements=p_n_date%3A1249114011&rnid=1249111011&s=music&sr=1-155)

Amazon's blurb:

"The Viennese violin virtuoso Joseph Mayseder (1789-1863) is today considered an insider tip, he played under the baton of Haydn, Beethoven and Schubert and wrote an impressive number of own compositions. More than 900 printed editions of his works in European countries and abroad illustrate the popularity of Mayseder, which nonetheless seemed to vanish over the course of time. His works are now continually being published as world premiere recordings by violinist Raimund Lissy, member of the Vienna Philharmonic. The sixth edition of this series with Gramola featuring Mayseders oeuvre includes the Piano Trios Nr. 1 in B-flat major, Op. 34 and Nr. 2 in A-flat major, Op. 52 as well as the Sonata for Violin and Piano Nr. 2 in E minor. The musicians Srebra Gelleva, piano, Maria Grun, cello and Raimund Lissy, violin, splendidly succeed in merging these works high virtuosity with the typical Biedermeier Viennese charm."
Title: Re: Joseph Mayseder
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 26 November 2019, 22:30
And here:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Joseph-Mayseder-6-Raimund-Lissy/dp/B07ZW9PYL7/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Joseph+Mayseder+6&qid=1574807373&sr=8-1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Joseph-Mayseder-6-Raimund-Lissy/dp/B07ZW9PYL7/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Joseph+Mayseder+6&qid=1574807373&sr=8-1)
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Post by: Martin Eastick on Wednesday 27 November 2019, 13:22
Very good news indeed. I was hoping that this series would get around to the piano trios at some time........!
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Post by: Sharkkb8 on Friday 03 January 2020, 22:56
Wow, the Gramola label is really cranking out the Mayseder!  Feb 14 will see the release of a mass and the 2nd Violin Concerto.  At Amazon below..... don't see it yet at Presto, unless I missed it.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Messe-Es-Dur-Violinkonzert-Thomas-Christian/dp/B082BY4X4Q/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?keywords=mayseder+violin+concerto&qid=1578091755&s=music&sr=8-1-fkmr0 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Messe-Es-Dur-Violinkonzert-Thomas-Christian/dp/B082BY4X4Q/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?keywords=mayseder+violin+concerto&qid=1578091755&s=music&sr=8-1-fkmr0)

https://www.amazon.com/Messe-Es-Dur-Violinkonzert-Wiener-Sangerknaben/dp/B082BY4X4Q/ref=sr_1_188?fst=as%3Aoff&qid=1578091426&refinements=p_n_date%3A1249114011&rnid=1249111011&s=music&sr=1-188 (https://www.amazon.com/Messe-Es-Dur-Violinkonzert-Wiener-Sangerknaben/dp/B082BY4X4Q/ref=sr_1_188?fst=as%3Aoff&qid=1578091426&refinements=p_n_date%3A1249114011&rnid=1249111011&s=music&sr=1-188)

Title: Re: Joseph Mayseder
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 03 January 2020, 23:43
I don't see it @ Presto Classical yet either, but Naxos Direct does have a listing for the soon-to-be release. (Hrm, the performance is mentioned in a May 2018 news entry at the Sangerknaben's own site :) - op.64, composed and premiered in 1848, regularly performed until 1940, rediscovered more recently (presumably lost after WWII bombings??) by Vienna Philharmonic member Raimund Lissy (since it was actually published in 1866 by Wessely, I'm guessing what was published was the vocal score and what was discovered was the performing parts...)
Title: Re: Joseph Mayseder
Post by: eschiss1 on Tuesday 04 February 2020, 14:40
 According to Naxos, not Lissy but Thomas Christian is soloist in the concerto.
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Post by: Wheesht on Tuesday 04 February 2020, 15:35
That's also what it says on Gramola's own website – where both the CD and downloads are available (https://www.gramola.at/en/shop/produkte/chor/gramola/thomas+christian,wr.saengerknaben/joseph+mayseder/141851/).