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2 works by Percy Hilder Miles (1878-1922, dates I had a difficult time finding out btw ) (friend of Lionel Tertis; infamously the teacher of Rebecca Helferich Clarke whose advances on her may have led to her father taking her out of the RAM) - have been uploaded in score or parts and in recording to IMSLP - three fantasy pieces for string quartet (1902) and a string sextet in G minor with double bass (published 1920). (Performances by Steve's Bedroom Band. I've heard that of the fantasy pieces - good! - and will be listening to that of the sextet, uploaded today, very soon.)

Fantasy Pieces

String Sextet.

Eric

According to Naxos, the first, third and fourth quartets of Rubbra will be released in 2/11 in some areas at least on Naxos 8.572555 (completing the recording began last year with a CD coupling the 2nd quartet with other material- only the 3rd ever recording of the works on the present disc, counting only complete cycles on Sterling and Dutton Epoch earlier. The 2nd quartet has been somewhat more fortunate.
The 1934/1946 first quartet at least I would describe as Romantic with tenuous connections to the Fauré E minor.)
A recording of George Bizet's complete piano music is also announced for release in 2/11 on Naxos.
Hyperion apparently will be releasing the second recording of Spohr's 10th symphony in the same month (and the 2nd? 3rd? recording of the 8th- I forget if cpo's series has hit that one yet.)
Eric

Chill319's last (recent- not necessarily last ,now) in the anniversaries thread made me think of this topic, as did IMSLP user Matesic's yeoman's work resurrecting string quartets from England from the earlier part of the 19th century from manuscripts in the Royal Academy of Music library (and using notation programs to prepare modern editions, and often recording them too.)  My first two submissions are two? found and one not-yet-found work-
1 - Stanford's 2nd violin concerto (only in piano score? still, an edition and recording even of that would intrigue.)
2 - Stanford's unpublished chamber music (cheating here - 2nd piano quartet and several string quartets) - if still in existence, very curious about these too.
3 - Karl Goldmark - 2nd violin concerto. where'd this walk off to? who knew violin concertos could grow feet? (did it devise an escape plan with Brian's manuscript 1st and Wieniawski's 3rd?) if found, want to see and hear. thank you.-- the undersigned.
ah, adding (sorry) - the unpublished Franz Lachner symphonies.
well, one could go on

Eric

First off, happy 2011 (though for some it's practically January 2nd, I know.)
I notice that the new Records International catalog is already out. It contains a little of some possible interest to the strictly-Romantic-style listener - piano works by Bortkiewicz (four volumes - apparently a new series of his piano works, reviewed in Fanfare this month), by Busoni and de Boeck, the imperfect at best Rubinstein piano trios CDs reviewed here recently, songs by Tournemire and by Madetoja,  Honegger's mature violin sonatas on Naxos, the Lyapunov piano concertos CD from Naxos also discussed recently, chamber works by Huybrechts, and some Dutton CDs including works by Bate, Foulds, Boughton.

Kaun's name has come up here - I  believe 4 times in these new forums - but I see that the German Wikipedia has a page devoted to his worklist (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Kaun-Werkverzeichnis), and I found some while back when skimming the Neue Zeitschrift fuer Musik for that period, that in the season his 3rd symphony was premiered, it received something like a dozen (?) performances in different cities (1914-15 I guess).  At this time I admit he's almost completely forgotten, but there's a couple of recordings, a couple of available scores online (some moreso than others depending on where you live - US people can't access a number of them online legally since they were published post-1922), and I end up wondering if there's any opinions at least about his works here.  Haven't yet heard myself (I need to get a listen to that simulation of the opening of his first symphony though, for starters.)

Eric

The very-little-represented-on-recording (WorldCat turns up I think four different recordings containing works of his - a recent duo-piano disc devoted entirely to his music from 2003, a violin-and-harp CD in which Menuhin and Zabaleta included a piece, and two others) Nicolai von Wilm wrote a nonet for strings published in 1911, the year of his death (instrumentation: 4 violins, 2 violas, 2 cellos, and double bass) - A minor (tonality), Romantic, inventive I think. It has received a recording here from Steve's Bedroom Band:
http://imslp.org/wiki/String_Nonet,_Op.150_%28Wilm,_Nicolai_von%29

I recommend it.
Eric

Just saw announced a recording of Enesco's piano quartets to be released on cpo (in January in Europe?).  Performers are the Tammuz Piano Quartet.

I've heard two recordings of no.2 but not, yet, I think, no.1 though I know it's been recorded (indeed one of the recordings was on the Olympia CD from which I heard their recording of no.2 too, was just happenstance that I didn't, I think, hear no.1 also that day. I have the Naxos recording though.)  At least two of the performers in the Tammuz quartet "ring bells" ("Daniel Gaede, violin. Volker Jacobsen, viola. Gustav Rivinius, violoncello. Oliver Tirendl, piano.")- Triendl more than strongly (with his several commercial recordings, and a broadcast recording of the Draeseke piano concerto, iirc, one which I haven't I think yet heard), Rivinius less so (but I see he's already performed in and recorded Enesco's earlier and wonderful Octet )

Eric

there was a website run by John Woollard with documents and summaries of the programs of orchestras worldwide; this was useful for a number of purposes, including to name just one of very many, getting an early(ish) warning(?) that an orchestra would be programming something unusual (which sometimes meant they might be recording it). It was a good centralized resource for that sort of thing rather than going to hundreds of orchestra websites to look for some hidden gems amongst mostly routine items ...
I hope he was not the same John Woollard whose death at age 74 was announced in an obituary this past spring, I just noticed, though I do think the site's been inactive for awhile now.  I thought of checking the site or if still inactive, others like it and individual sites it used to link to, when the thread about forthcoming violin concerto recordings was current, so this is not the total tangent-to-the-forum that it might seem- that is, for information for that thread I thought of looking at websites of soloists, conductors, and orchestras to see if any had plans to record anything relevant to the thread... does anyone have any notion what might have happened to maintainer and to site, and any resources obvious or otherwise that might substitute?

Thanks in advance and apologies.

Sometimes I think I catch unusual music in the movies. Shostakovich symphony 6 was probably undersung in 1988 when a fragment of the Largo appeared for a moment in the movie Running on Empty (but then the character waking up in that scene was a musician hoping to go to Juilliard, and it felt appropriate- in a couple of ways really). Some even better examples are almost coming to mind but not quite.  A silly one is coming to mind from last year, though - the main character of last year's film An Education was a cellist, and of course we had to have a scene of her rehearsing with her orchestra; and it turns out, in the credits, that the very brief excerpt of what they were playing was from the Adagio from the Elgar/Payne symphony no.3.  An Education, which is based on a true story they say, is set in the 1960s.

Am I the only person who sees a problem there? (The producers' fault, of course- I don't think the author of the original book claimed to have been playing the Elgar/Payne!)

Sorry, posted this to the wrong subforum.

I would have had serious difficulty doing so, having as I recall just traveled to attend a once-a-year conference at the time and having a limited travel budget (excuses, excuses), but did anyone catch the Boughton Festival this past May? Described http://www.pauladrianrooke.com/2010.php here - a page that has a detailed description, too, of the 1926-7 2nd symphony (which work has been mentioned here a few times, having me as a fan and others too ) and its genesis for such (others) as may be interested...

Eric

According to Tobias Ringborg's homepage, he's conducting an opera (premiered 1849 in Stockholm) by Jacopo Foroni, Cristina regina di Svezia, (in 5 acts), to be released by Sterling. Anyone know anything about this work? The composer rings a bell but not at all a loud one, and the work doesn't. (If my Italian were better, http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacopo_Foroni or its Swedish version would be more help; Google Chrome translate is somewhat helpful I admit.)

an obscure-music-fan/classifying-habit-something lament... (and another shameless attempt, like an earlier thread, to bend ears for knowledge I don't have... see below... for which all thanks and all appreciation.)

actually provide some information - like the full names of the composer. And the date of publication- sometimes even of composition, if it weren't asking too much. etc. etc.

Too many cases in point. Like- to provide some minor ones (there are some very important and obvious ones in music history of course that aren't these!)...
"Joseph Raff" in earlier thread. Or solo voice/piano songs (also scanned in at LoC, some of these) that were published (by Schirmer, others) as by "James H. Rogers" when both James Hotchkiss Rogers (more focused on organ, a Guilmant pupil), and James Henderson Rogers (more focused on brass band, I think) were alive and (... for all I know?) might have written them.  I thought it was pretty definite that the Guilmant pupil wrote them but now after reading the LoC staffer's response to my email I'm more neutral and interested.

Then there's the several works online I noticed by Heinrich Neal, whose dates are given in Wikipedia as 1870-1940, born in Germany. That's fine, except that the earliest of the works are published in the US in 1882. Different (though maybe related) Neal (his family was German-American, so related is a could-be here...); or prodigy (age 12 - not... unknown); or misdated (unlikely- that looks to me like a copyright marker- these are at memory.loc.gov, I've reuploaded one to IMSLP... , not a guess. Misreading it maybe, it's not the highest-resolution scan...) One later work, a string quartet no.1 op.54 in Eflat, I can believe is by Heinrich Neal 1870-1940 actually (digitized by Google and findable at books.google.com where it can be downloaded as a PDF- probably not in the EU.)

There was a paper - more Classical-era-oriented than Romantic, though the problem at its most general is of course known as epistemology and transcends not only era but particular subject ! - a couple of decades back, in several parts, about problems of identification in late Classical symphonies. (Not - trivial ; start with the fact that people published their work as Haydn - or their publishers did it for them - pirate publishers may have brought out works by Haydn under different names also to increase the brand recognition of those names, if a weak memory is serving at all.  That seems to be the least of the problem. Plus as usual composers with similar names so far as the names were identified (hrm, did composers keep receipts of their one-time fees or their royalties? ... royalties, right, should be so lucky) (fortunate for the composers who kept worklists of their own music though, like Raff, Spohr and Mozart, who make later generations' work so much easier...)

Anyways. Thanks in advance for anyone who knows anything about Neal or Rogers, and I will be sparing (but not that sparing) of further questions...

Someone turned up another document confirming, by the way, and adding more detail (a confirming document, and the date of his move to Binghamton after Owego) to the conclusions about Joseph Kaspar Raff - see http://imslp.org/wiki/Category_talk:Raff,_Joachim. (my embarrassing mistake at the end'of included.)
Eric

Review now at MusicWeb here by the way

Only a brief review given to the one of the three on the CD I know at all (no.1 in F) but that's ok, it really is an uncomplicated- if to my mind and ear enjoyable and memorable - work.
Eric

another note on an earlier thread (about violin concertos, Hans Huber, etc., ending this past May)- I think something in the Basel, Switzerland University library catalog seems to say that the parts to that op40 violin concerto of Hans Huber's may still be in their collection. So maybe that work can be recovered, anyway-
Eric

This is probably a very easy problem...

The Performing Arts archive of digitized scores at the Library of Congress (http://loc.gov/performingarts/index.html) has 7 works that turn up under a search for Raff.

(This is not counting the other very very large archive of digitized scores at the LoC, at memory.loc.gov . but can get to that elsewhen.)
Some of them have opus numbers attached (op.29 , op.130 no.2) - the others - are - hrm. "The Fall of Richmond"? (US pub.1865) "Major General Sheridan's Quickstep"? (US pub.1864) (and a couple of others.) I admit the ulterior (though permitted, afaik, and unprofitable) motive of uploading these with full attribution to IMSLP once I know what their original titles are- but that bit's a bit of a stopping point. Halp?
Eric

Most likely solution: This is a different Joseph Raff!... Raff's op.29 is not an "Autumn Song". (It's possible one of the works in their collection is by Joseph Joachim Raff, but probably at most one, the opus 130 etude- if that! Erm. Sorry. will have to find out who this other Joseph Raff is though- now I'm curious, not because of great quality, but- because!)

Sibley Digitizing (urresearch.rochester.edu ) is doing some relatively major uploadings of full scores this past week - concertos, symphonies from their collection. Mostly just a half-dozen to a dozen lesser-known works at a time, but today they've already put in symphonies by Scholz, Rudorff, Rüfer, Emil Hartmann, and others (and Louis Glass' symphony no. 5 preceded them last Friday.) Am transferring some to IMSLP as part of the mirroring project, as are others. I hope this will encourage interest in the better of these scores, of course... and since for many of them the parts exist somewhere (not alas for Rubinstein symphony 3, or rather not until recently, where I gather a student had to create the parts anew from the score before a performance and recording could be undertaken awhile back?) a conductor could go somewhere from there.
Eric

I've only relatively recently gotten into organ music (a silly statement, I suppose, as it's as diverse a- well, anyway.) I've seen CDs advertised by cpo of Wilhelm Middelschulte's music, and was just skimming a 60-page score of his "Canons und Fuge über den Choral: "Vater unser im Himmelreich" : für Orgel" - dedicated to Reger's friend Karl Straube - and now am getting fairly curious what his music sounds like, and if the ambition (of a few of his works, anyhow- there are miniatures in his output too, I do see) is matched by content?  (Can't play organ, and my ability to make MIDIs went away several years ago )
This particular work seems not to be recorded (looks interesting though), but some other works large and small of his do seem to be, so ... thanks in advance anyhow
Eric

Had a look at the score of the first of these two early string quartets by Ludwig Thuille when I was writing something on the composer for MusicWeb a few years ago. (Not very characteristic works to be studying I have to be the first to admit! And at the time unrecorded, too.) If only because of that tenuous connection I guess I will mention that their appearance on MDT (in the September/not-yet-available section) - Quartet no. 1 in A (1878), quartet no. 2 in G (1881, incomplete).  Capriccio CD, performers the Signum quartet. Description here. (Coincidentally the same keys as chosen by Schmidt for his quartets, but the first and probably the second- which I haven't seen- much more traditional works. The first does look like it sounds good and fortunate in melody, anyway.)

Eric

I'm interested in the music of Robert Fuchs (1847-1927).  Four string quartets are attributed to him, I know of no others, or so I thought.  I was looking through the extensive list of Fuchs works at the online Musiksammlung catalog of the Austrian National Library (http://onb.ac.at/kataloge/index.htm and click Katalog der Musiksammlung ) and found listed a 5th string quartet, dated later than the 1916 fourth in A major.  Misfiled work of another composer? Discovery (erm, probably not?) ... Unfortunately don't have any trips planned to Vienna in the foreseeable future, and not quite sure what to ask the librarians, so not sure what to do about this really.
(If you search under Fuchs, Robert you get 770 hits; it's no. 82. "5. [Streich-] Quartett. [Partitur.] ("Amont, 2.9.1925") " A link with a scan of the title page is there, also. (The scan does say Robert Fuchs, so probably not misfiled. Hrm... maybe incomplete, which would solve the mystery quite entirely of course...) Kf. H. Böck 1953 (another line in this odd card listing) may mean it was published in 1953- not sure; I hadn't heard of it so doubt it was published at all...
Eric

Not sure if he falls inside the orbit?ambit? of this forum, but what I have heard of and know of his music seems at least, interesting; and the trend or fad of naming pieces titles like "music for symphony orchestra" or "music for string quartet" seems to date back to him and may have been influenced by him (so far as later composers knew of his output, which is a question.)  Anyone know his work, any opinions, any recommendations?