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I can hear a connection with Beethoven, but i must admit that the first time l listened to the Op.77 sonata, I thought someone had put the wrong CD in the box as i was convinced it was Schubert. I have no idea why these sonatas are not part of regular concert repetoire.

Have not really looked at the concerti yet, but i anticipate finding works of similar quality.

There must be something special about these Bohemians. I am becoming rather attached to Tomasek as well.

Thal

I'd agree about quite a few of them, Vorisek too of course, Reicha and Vanhal and a gratifyingly long list, even Kozeluch and (even? well, of course) Krommer/Kramar. (Three of Kozeluch's piano concertos, to my surprise, have been recorded; from what I've heard of the disc, over the radio, sounds good. Tangent, though...)
Dussek's concertos, that I've heard, seem to bear out someone's contention that Dussek was at his best the fewer instruments he had at his disposal. (A spectrum from solo to duet to trio etc. - he wrote for many combinations, sometimes for many alternatives not obligatory!) ("Someone" may have been William Newman in his excellent Sonata Since Beethoven, a book that has regrettably - shamefully! - gone out of print.)  But I may only have heard Dussek's earlier concertos (op. 17 for example, which is broadcast fairly regularly on Radio Swiss Classic; though then again one of the later two-piano concertos is broadcast from time to time on Cesky Rozhlas, excellent station!) and despite what I just said, I am glad to have heard them, that they have been recorded - etc.! Good music. Would be glad to have more of them, indeed.
I was for some reason surprised to learn Dussek had written string quartets. I imagined that, like Medtner and moreso than Sorabji, every last work of his involved the piano in some fashion (or in Dussek's case, piano or harp!) Which leads to a train of thought that whether or not it belongs in another thread, doesn't belong in this one...

Eric

Yes, Peter - I am with you on Dubois.  I've managed to buy three of the Atma discs of his very lovely chamber music.  It all is marvelous and melodious.

Staying out of Belgium, therefore, and still in France - my favorite two composers of the same sort are Ropartz and Cras.  I very much enjoy the sea motifs in the music of both - and they now are quite well represented on CD.  Of course, the Ropartz Quartets are in a world of their own, and his Third Symphony is an overwhelming paean to nature and humankind.

A world of their own - with respect to other quartets or in the context of his output? I've only heard his sixth&last quartet (as a MIDI, before the commercial recording came out.) Hoping to get the recording though; the quartet is obviously fantastic (& maybe fantastical, too ).  The slight bitonality of the second movement's trio with its re-interpretable drone seems inspired by d'Indy's op. 24 suite, to mention just the slightest point of many of interest (not least a very memorable slow movement).
Eric

You have reminded me though of the flute concerto and concertino of Wilms. Any opinions? Underrated Dutch composer who I don't see mentioned much even here; Concertzender Hilversum did do a series of his music that's still audible online or I'd have heard a lot less of his music than I have.
Eric

By Mozart, I assume you mean the trumpet concerto of Leopold.  His son never composed a trumpet concerto.

(edited quote above)
To be picky, Wolfgang Mozart did.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trumpet_Concerto_(Mozart)

Wondering if anyone had any new news on this front. I do notice that there's a new recording (available rather than forthcoming, I think) of the early classical violin concertos of Touchemoulin, a composer who I know from his flute concerto sometimes broadcast over BBC.  And (again assuming I'm not the only one here interested, but not quite sure) a check at MDT reveals that a recording of Boris Tchaikovsky's violin concerto (or a reissue??) is listed as forthcoming. (Actually this CD may have come out in 2006 according to Worldcat. I'm not sure!)
(I forget, what was the consensus on Weingartner's violin concerto released a couple of months back? Was there any mention of Knipper's recently released, or of Jaques-Dalcroze's? Memory's not so good, seriously. Or of Ferdinand Ries', at that.)

MDT also shows Danacord's Danish violin concerto series continuing with Enna's and Lange-Muller's violin concertos in volume 3, among other works.  Anyhow, attempting to restart an old thread, possibly to little point (apologies) but it did seem worthwhile subjectively...
Eric

I remember making a MIDI file of the first movement of the first trio, while having the score on loan (this was before IMSLP and having the works easily downloadable to one's desktop!) and being delighted by its melodies and workmanship.  I expect much of this release...

The German Wikipedia has a brief article (in German of course) on the symphony here - http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/4._Sinfonie_(Büttner)

I'll stick my hands up for the flute concertos of Vagn Holmboe, and one of the two by M. Weinberg (I've only heard one so far...) (and their respective trumpet concertos, of course! And the trombone and tuba concertos of the former, and Hindemith's trumpet and bassoon concerto too- maybe my ears are more forgiving, or something. Even those though are for example). 
As to the MacFarren, don't know- Worldcat lists only a piano reduction by Natalia MacFarren, and that only at one library. The work has unfortunately not gotten around much.
Eric

A complete list of Emanuel Moor's works, with opus nos. and publishers where known, can be found at
http://www.emanuel-und-henrik-moor-stiftung.de/Emanuel/works.shtml by the way. -
Eric

Is the radio recording of the Gernsheim concerto the February 2008 (editing in, sorry) recording made by Oliver Triendl? Of curiosity...
Eric

Last I checked though the score that was uploaded to IMSLP for symphony 5 was barely legible, more like a microform. Maybe a better scan has been uploaded since.

The entry I found for the Bate does say it's a private tape, but it may be a mislisting for the viola concerto.  (Evidence against: the viola concerto is from 1944-46, the violin concerto listed in iLink is from 1950. According to http://www.musicweb-international.com/bate/index.htm , that would be the 3rd concerto; the first is from the 1930s, the second is from 1943. 1953 is indeed the premiere date, as below. This does give dates for your list, I suppose...)

All iLink says is, that Antonio Brosa is the violinist, Richard Austin, cond., London Symphony, tape from about 1953. I'm guessing it might be the premiere, and it's most likely the 3rd violin concerto.
Eric

Question- do you use http://cadensa.bl.uk as a resource? They list a concerto by Stanley Bate as recorded, for instance, though they don't say which one it is (just that it was composed in 1950) or who's conducting. It's the sound archive library catalog of the BBC (now known as iLink.)

Eric

The Violin Concerto is an astonishing piece too - unfortunately it's only come down to us in violin and piano form. One of the truly great VCs, though, and word has it that it's being orchestrated by a Draeseke expert...

There is or was a video (three- one for each movement) on YouTube of parts of that violin concerto in piano reduction, and on the basis of those, I can't wait, myself.

I haven't heard Christus so it is probably offtopic to say so, but what I have heard of his chamber music- especially the two string quintets, that cello sonata, the two viola alta sonatas - has seemed to have the strongest - my opinion - future possible hold on the repertoire; moreso to my ears (again) than the orchestral music of his I've heard, though that has grown on me.  Both quintets are worth a try.  (All on the AK Coburg label again. I've heard the piano quintet on MDG once and believe it has the same qualities- lyrical, apparently Schubert-influenced? while being clearly of its time, for example- as well.)

Eric