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Title: Stanford from Hyperion
Post by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 06 July 2011, 17:29
Vol.3 in Hyperion's RCC series contains music for cello and orchestra by Stanford, including the Concerto in D minor...
http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/al.asp?al=CDA67859 (http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/al.asp?al=CDA67859)
Title: Re: Stanford from Hyperion
Post by: Mark Thomas on Wednesday 06 July 2011, 17:54
The Concerto and the Irish Rhapsody are already available, of course, from Lyrita and Chandos respectively but this is excellent news which, as a great Stanford enthusiast, I really welcome.
Title: Re: Stanford from Hyperion
Post by: albion on Wednesday 06 July 2011, 18:35
Great news! Even better news, judging from the timings, is that Hyperion don't appear to be using Alexander Baillie's incredibly over-indulgent and interminable first-movement cadenza which almost scuppers the Lyrita recording of the Cello Concerto.

Ballata and Ballabile is especially welcome, as is a new recording of the beautiful Irish Rhapsody No.3.

;D
Title: Re: Stanford from Hyperion
Post by: albion on Monday 01 August 2011, 06:50
Quote from: Albion on Wednesday 06 July 2011, 18:35
Hyperion don't appear to be using Alexander Baillie's incredibly over-indulgent and interminable first-movement cadenza which almost scuppers the Lyrita recording of the Cello Concerto.

Stanford himself did not supply a cadenza in the autograph score. The booklet notes for this exciting release are now viewable on the Hyperion website - interestingly, there is no mention whatsoever of a cadenza in the descriptive notes by Jeremy Dibble or any indication that a new one has been supplied, but the Concerto is performed in a new edition by George Burrows.
Title: Re: Stanford from Hyperion
Post by: JimL on Monday 01 August 2011, 23:44
Quote...It features an extended, soulful melody which, at its close, is characterized by some remarkably original scoring for strummed pizzicato strings and sustained high flutes (an idea which was to surface again in the slow movement of his late unpublished Violin Concerto No 2 Op 162).
This passage from the Hyperion liner notes implies that the G minor Violin Concerto does indeed exist in full score.  Any chance of seeing that any time soon?
Title: Re: Stanford from Hyperion
Post by: eschiss1 on Tuesday 02 August 2011, 04:59
ooh, I'd been wondering about that very thing (re the opus 162) as all I knew about was the library holding of a manuscript copy of a violin-piano score... thanks!!
(Wouldn't mind hearing, now that an edition of the 2nd piano quartet and a new edition of the cello concerto are out, and this good news about the 2nd violin concerto, the unpublished- and some more of the published- string quartets and quintets too...)
Title: Re: Stanford from Hyperion
Post by: JimL on Tuesday 02 August 2011, 06:06
Quote from: Albion on Wednesday 06 July 2011, 18:35
Great news! Even better news, judging from the timings, is that Hyperion don't appear to be using Alexander Baillie's incredibly over-indulgent and interminable first-movement cadenza which almost scuppers the Lyrita recording of the Cello Concerto.
I don't have a problem with the Baillie cadenza.  What troubles me is that he can just barely play it himself!
Title: Re: Stanford from Hyperion
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Tuesday 02 August 2011, 11:07
QuoteThis passage from the Hyperion liner notes implies that the G minor Violin Concerto does indeed exist in full score.  Any chance of seeing that any time soon?

Why not drop Hyperion a line, Jim, and ask them? A lot of folks on this forum would be grateful for the answer you might elicit.
Title: Re: Stanford from Hyperion
Post by: JimL on Tuesday 02 August 2011, 12:25
Maybe I'll give it a shot!  Later...
Title: Re: Stanford from Hyperion
Post by: albion on Tuesday 20 September 2011, 18:25
Ballata and Ballabile, Op.160 from this forthcoming disc will be broadcast next Tuesday (27th September) at around 14.35 on Radio 3.

:)
Title: Re: Stanford from Hyperion
Post by: albion on Wednesday 28 September 2011, 23:36
(http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/jpegs/034571178592.png)

I'm finally getting round to this as the witching hour approaches - what a lovely disc! There is a cadenza in the first movement (which is unattributed - slightly mysterious, as the Lyrita notes indicate that no cadenza survives in Stanford's manuscript, but never mind), but it is mercifully brief and much more in keeping with the tenor of the work that that on the Lyrita disc.

Fine performances of the other works round out a very significant entry in the RCC series - Irish Rhapsody No.3 is just simply gorgeous: anybody coming to it 'fresh' (i.e. without having heard the Handley recording on Chandos) will (I hope) be bowled over.

;D
Title: Re: Stanford from Hyperion
Post by: albion on Friday 14 October 2011, 22:46
Quote from: Albion on Wednesday 28 September 2011, 23:36(http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/jpegs/034571178592.png)

CD Review tomorrow c.9.10 Radio 3.

:)
Title: Re: Stanford from Hyperion
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 15 October 2011, 09:34
Nice stuff, not earth-shattering, but worth purchasing if you like this attractive, but derivative music. It's certainly on my list...
Title: Re: Stanford from Hyperion
Post by: albion on Saturday 15 October 2011, 10:46
Quote from: Alan Howe on Saturday 15 October 2011, 09:34worth purchasing if you like this attractive, but derivative music.

Lovely, I can't get enough of it!

;D
Title: Re: Stanford from Hyperion
Post by: Dundonnell on Saturday 15 October 2011, 13:44
Just in case you think that all I like are grim, 20th Century orchestral works ;D...

one of the British compositions I shall be uploading in the programme hopefully commencing next week will be Stanford's Choral Ballad "Phaudrig Crohoore"(1895) :)
Title: Re: Stanford from Hyperion
Post by: albion on Saturday 15 October 2011, 14:08
Quote from: Dundonnell on Saturday 15 October 2011, 13:44Stanford's Choral Ballad "Phaudrig Crohoore"(1895)

Fantastic - thanks, Colin - it's one of several works that I've sent out a search party for in the past!

;D
Title: Re: Stanford from Hyperion
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 15 October 2011, 14:55
Quote from: Albion on Saturday 15 October 2011, 10:46
Quote from: Alan Howe on Saturday 15 October 2011, 09:34worth purchasing if you like this attractive, but derivative music.

Lovely, I can't get enough of it!

;D

I suspect that this modest piece will not bear a huge number of repetitions...
Title: Re: Stanford from Hyperion
Post by: Mark Thomas on Saturday 15 October 2011, 15:01
Oh, goodie!
Title: Re: Stanford from Hyperion
Post by: albion on Saturday 15 October 2011, 15:39
Quote from: Alan Howe on Saturday 15 October 2011, 14:55I suspect that this modest piece will not bear a huge number of repetitions...

It's had a fair few since it was purchased on the day of release!

For a more echt-Stanfordian style I would try the later Irish Rhapsody No.3 or Ballata and Ballabile.

;)
Title: Re: Stanford from Hyperion
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 15 October 2011, 17:25
It's not major Stanford - at least not from what I remember of the Lyrita release. Whereas the 1st Symphony...........
Title: Re: Stanford from Hyperion
Post by: albion on Saturday 15 October 2011, 23:38
Quote from: Alan Howe on Saturday 15 October 2011, 17:25
It's not major Stanford - at least not from what I remember of the Lyrita release. Whereas the 1st Symphony...........

If you're referring to the Cello Concerto, of course it's not major Stanford. For that you have to wait until the mid-1880s at least. But it is still attractive, and an extraordinary achievement for a young composer writing virtually in a native vacuum in terms of concertos of any substance.

;)
Title: Re: Stanford from Hyperion
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 15 October 2011, 23:47
Quote from: Albion on Saturday 15 October 2011, 23:38
an extraordinary achievement

It's not quite good enough music in my book to qualify for that description. Let's agree to disagree...
Title: Re: Stanford from Hyperion
Post by: albion on Saturday 15 October 2011, 23:53
Quote from: Alan Howe on Saturday 15 October 2011, 23:47Let's agree to disagree...

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_J516T01-NGY/S4wCzI8IABI/AAAAAAAAL50/URmq48GIZRQ/shakinghands.JPG)
Title: Re: Stanford from Hyperion
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 16 October 2011, 09:33
A lovely summing-up of the predominant attitude on this forum...
Title: Re: Stanford from Hyperion
Post by: albion on Sunday 16 October 2011, 10:34
... and, what's more, drawn by one of my favourite illustrators -

(http://math.boisestate.edu/GaS/gilbert/life/celebrity/walery%20gilbert.jpg)

:)
Title: Re: Stanford from Hyperion
Post by: Lionel Harrsion on Sunday 16 October 2011, 11:02
Ironically, Gilbert was the last person to 'agree to disagree' with anyone as D'Oyly Carte, Sullivan and Edward German could readily have testified!