Unsung Composers

The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: mbhaub on Wednesday 26 August 2009, 05:07

Title: A Hollywood Unsung
Post by: mbhaub on Wednesday 26 August 2009, 05:07
I read a great book this week, A Windfall of Musicians by Dorothy Crawford. It's about musicians who fled Germany/Austria and wound up in the Los Angeles area. Fascinating reading, and some interesting trivia, too. For example, Arnold Schoenberg's house is just down the street from OJ Simpsons. Who knew? But she also mentions some students of Mario Castelnuovo-Tesdesco. One of them is the long-time actor Mickey Rooney! Who would have thunk? Most interesting, Rooney wrote a symphony of all things. Now that could be worth hearing! The author doesn't say anything about it or even if it was ever played.
Title: Re: A Hollywood Unsung
Post by: Kevin Pearson on Wednesday 26 August 2009, 05:46
I run a social network for fans of classic movies called The Golden Age of Hollywood. This sounds like something I would really be interested in reading. It's amazing how many great composers fled Germany and other areas and settled in Hollywood to make a living doing what they loved to do...i.e. compose. Korngold, Steiner, Hermann and others.

That's a very interesting fact about Mickey Rooney. Who would have thought!  :o

Kevin
Title: Re: A Hollywood Unsung
Post by: Pengelli on Wednesday 26 August 2009, 17:22
Did Robert Mitchum write any?!!!
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Post by: JimL on Wednesday 26 August 2009, 22:31
Maybe when he was behind bars!
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Post by: Pengelli on Wednesday 26 August 2009, 23:11
That's a cracker!
Title: Re: A Hollywood Unsung
Post by: mbhaub on Thursday 27 August 2009, 00:22
Hannibal Lecter did! I remember an interview with Sir Anthony Hopkins and he said he enjoys writing music.
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Post by: sdtom on Thursday 27 August 2009, 04:18
I believe that one of Mario's pupils who went on to a successful career in Hollywood was Jerry Goldsmith.
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Post by: Pengelli on Thursday 27 August 2009, 15:12
Of course there is the Seven Stars Symphony by Charles
Koechlin. He kept pestering one of them with letters.
Title: Re: A Hollywood Unsung
Post by: dafrieze on Tuesday 25 January 2011, 19:23
A few years ago, I recall, Naxos was going to record the symphony of Lionel Barrymore.

And then there's Red Skelton:

"The compositions of Red Skelton measure 8,000 songs and 64 symphonies. He conducted and composed for numerous albums as well as having his selections performed by the likes of Arthur Fiedler, the London Philharmonic and Van Clyburn.  Many of his compositions were purchased by Muzak as easy listening pieces for offices and elevators."

This is according to his website, which also has a couple of (abysmally played) recordings:  http://www.redskelton.com/Composer.htm (http://www.redskelton.com/Composer.htm). 
Title: Re: A Hollywood Unsung
Post by: edurban on Wednesday 26 January 2011, 02:23
"...It's amazing how many great composers fled Germany and other areas and settled in Hollywood to make a living doing what they loved to do...i.e. compose. Korngold, Steiner, Hermann, and others..."

Of course, Hermann only "fled" NYC.  And I believe he maintained a residence here over on the East Side.

David

Title: Re: A Hollywood Unsung
Post by: giles.enders on Saturday 29 January 2011, 10:43
dafreze mentions Lionel Barrymore's symphony.  He wrote a piano concerto in 1940, though I have no idea if it was ever performed.
Very few of these "Hollywood Composers" did their own orchestrations and credit is rarely given to those half forgotten orchestrators.
Title: Re: A Hollywood Unsung
Post by: chill319 on Saturday 29 January 2011, 16:26
I'm with you on the orchestrators, Giles. So often most of the interest lies in their contributions.

One Hollywood unsung whose scores -- particularly from the latter half of the 1940s -- vie in quality with the best of Rosza's is Roy Webb.
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Post by: giles.enders on Monday 31 January 2011, 13:12
During the thirties, forties and fifties there was a Hollywood film 'sound' which has often been attributed to Korngold.  I believe that Sergei Lyapunov's Polonaise Op. 16 of 1902 got there first.
Title: Re: A Hollywood Unsung
Post by: eschiss1 on Monday 31 January 2011, 17:19
Quote from: giles.enders on Monday 31 January 2011, 13:12
During the thirties, forties and fifties there was a Hollywood film 'sound' which has often been attributed to Korngold.  I believe that Sergei Lyapunov's Polonaise Op. 16 of 1902 got there first.

I try to be so very wary of claims of 'first's ;) ... er... well, until I have anything to the contrary...
Title: Re: A Hollywood Unsung
Post by: giles.enders on Tuesday 01 February 2011, 11:02
Perhaps I should have said 'before those I have mentioned'
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Post by: sdtom on Thursday 03 February 2011, 23:00
Max Steiner was considered the "father of film music" His epic score to King Kong for RKO in 1933 was over 60 minutes of original material and he used a fairly large orchestra. While there had been other soundtracks a lot of it was material such as Swan Lake in Dracula etc. There was even a small amount of original material but it was this soundtrack that got it started.

The early major players in Hollywood were Steiner, Waxman, Newman, Tiomkin, Korngold, and Herrmann. Korngold who scored for Warner Brothers did the swashbuckling material while Steiner did a lot of work for Davis and Bogart.