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The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: M. Henriksen on Friday 11 November 2011, 23:12

Title: Hopes for 2012
Post by: M. Henriksen on Friday 11 November 2011, 23:12
It's still 2011, but I would like to hear what expectations you have till next year when it comes to recordings of the unsung.

Personally I'm still waiting for cpo to release Jan van Gilse's 3rd Symphony and also to release the first of a Kallstenius series. Both records were announced to be released "soon" in the 2010 catalogue. Soon is obviously a very subjective term.

Other expectations: Chisholm's Piano Concertos from Hyperion in April 2012, and hopefully Noskowski's 3rd Symphony from Sterling.


Morten
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: Dundonnell on Friday 11 November 2011, 23:23
I second your hopes that CPO will release the van Gilse and the Kallstenius in 2012 ;D

I also hope that CPO will continue in 2012 with their release of the symphonies of  Henk Badings, that we might see the first of their recordings of Johann Nepomuk David and that we get the Panufnik Metasinfonia.

Dutton will, no doubt, delight and surprise us....with more Stanley Bate? with the Foulds Cello Concerto and the David Matthews Symphony No.7 certainly, perhaps, maybe the Robert Simpson Piano Concerto?

I would like to look forward to more interesting Swedish music from BIS but I fear that I shall be disappointed there :(
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: mbhaub on Friday 11 November 2011, 23:39
I would like to read the the following projects are in the works:

Video productions of Schmidt's operas, Notre Dame and Fredigundis
Neeme Jarvi is recording Gliere's Ilya Murometz
The 3rd and 4th symphonies of Maximillian Steinberg will be done.
Raff's oratorio Welt Ende and opera King Alfred are being recorded by CPO.

I am certain that a few of those will occur: maybe not next year, but eventually.
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 12 November 2011, 03:12
at a guess, Jarvi looks more likely to be recording a new version of the Scharwenka 4th (I'm not complaining, it's a good piece) at least judging from the concert schedule at his own website. that's a guess, though. but as to hopes... I'd like to see the Jadassohn symphonies start to come out on cpo, and the Sträßer and Weismann orchestral and concertante orchestral works (some of which we know Albert and Francis have conducted and some of which we even sort-of-know/know are slated for eventual cpo release.) (Recordings of more of Weismann's, and "real" - apologies to SBB! (question of more, not instead, I say.) -recordings of Sträßer's quartets (plus his piano quintet, trio, violin sonata, etc. etc.) - would be rather good- in my opinion...
(Hrm. 7-8 December - Järvi: Raff Concert overture. well: that's promising.)
And Alun Francis lists "NORDWESTDEUTSCHE PHILHARMONIE — Julius Weissmann Sinfonia "Brevis" op.116 / Sinfonietta "Severa" op. 111 / Violin Concerto op. 98" in his discography already... (http://www.alunfrancis.com/discography.php (http://www.alunfrancis.com/discography.php))
Hrm... :)



Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: Mark Thomas on Saturday 12 November 2011, 08:51
I would love Martin's wish come true for cpo to record Raff's Welt Ende oratorio and opera König Alfred, although actually his Wagner-inspired music drama Samson would be the opera I'd choose. Neither prospect is very likely I'm afraid and, if they were recorded, with cpo's snail's-pace release schedule the worry would be whether I'd live long enough to see them actually issued! For the last two years they have been promising "next year" for volume II of the Raff string quartets, all eight of which have now been recorded by the Mannheim Quartet.

Still on the Raff front, it looks fairly certain that Neeme Järvi and the Suisse Romande Orchestra will be recording at least Raff's Lenore Symphony for Chandos, which should be a special event, and Sterling should be issuing a CD of his religious choral music, half of the programme being works with orchestra, the other half a capella. We can also expect definitely one, and probably two CDs of his piano works from Tra Nguyen on a major label.

Turning to other composers, I hope that we'll see a second Rufinatscha symphony recording on Chandos from Noseda. More than anything else though, I share everyone else's frustration at cpo's log jam of recordings and hope that we'll see them speed up their schedule so that we have a few Nicodé, Sträßer, Jadassohn etc. CDs to look forward to next year.
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 12 November 2011, 10:34
As possibly the only Weingartner fan here (-maybe- joking) I see that the only cpo project proceeding apace is their set of recordings of his works (volume 3 of his string chamber works is just coming out) - and comparing what was announced in a 1994-ish cpo catalog to when the items within actually arrived on the market (most of them did) does tend to re-prove the point...
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 12 November 2011, 10:47
I largely echo Mark's wish-list - Jadassohn symphonies and Urspruch Symphony & PC from cpo, Raff 5 from Chandos, Rufinatscha 5 & PC (also from Chandos). But I'm also looking to be surprised by something unexpected!
The largest backlog of unreleased materials belongs to cpo - I'm sure there are some treasures among them!
Finally: a mini-revival of the music of Percy Sherwood!
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: albion on Saturday 12 November 2011, 11:05
Certainly, I should be more than a little surprised if we aren't in for another enterprising year for Dutton - I'm sure that the Percy Sherwood Piano Concerto No.2 will be only one amongst many exciting premiere recordings that we can look forward to.

;D

From CPO I would especially hope to see a continuation of their Holbrooke series with the unfortunately-delayed disc of Symphony No.3 (Ships), the Grasshopper Violin Concerto and the Auld Lang Syne Variations. As Alan has said, this company seems to stock-pile recordings so there will be a huge backlog and, as far as I'm aware, Howard Griffiths has not set these works down yet.

???

Having expressed an encouraging interest in Scottish Romantics, it would be wonderful if Chandos could record and issue some orchestral music by Learmont Drysdale and Alexander Mackenzie with Andrew Davis conducting.

:)

And I'm sure that Colin is hoping to have his wonderful transfer programme more-or-less finished and begin 2012 with more free-time!

;)
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: alberto on Saturday 12 November 2011, 13:39
My wish-list:
I.Pizzetti Symphony in A
                Cello Concerto
A.Casella "War pages" (orchestral version)
G.F.Ghedini Partita for orchestra
                   Architetture (concerto for orchestra)
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: alberto on Saturday 12 November 2011, 13:45
I have to add:
G.F.Ghedini Four pieces by Frescobaldi transcribed for orchestra
                   Pezzo concertante for two violins, viola and orch.
G.F.Malipiero Concerti for orchestra
                      Cello concerto
                   
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: Dundonnell on Saturday 12 November 2011, 13:59
I add my hopes for more Italian music, including the works named by alberto.

Regarding CPO's release programme-the company can press ahead quickly sometimes. The Panufnik cycle from Lukasz Borowiczi is proceeding apace.

(I haven't yet properly mined my own collection of non-British music ;D)
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 12 November 2011, 14:26
Let's not get too much into wish-lists, please. The topic is about the things we are looking forward to encountering in 2012 (suggesting that we know they're supposed to be coming out at some stage).
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: Jimfin on Saturday 12 November 2011, 15:03
Since there was already a rumour of it, I hope for Holbrooke's 'The Bells', along with the orchestral version of his Violin concerto. If we're going really loony, I hope for all the so far unrecorded Havergal Brian Symphonies (or maybe just a box set of the whole cycle, and a Covent Garden production of Faust).
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 12 November 2011, 16:35
re suggesting we know they're supposed to be coming out at some stage soonish if not necessarily this next year- thank you for the clarification (and yes, I didn't get what was meant.)  Apologies, again !
Hrm. ... Actually, I have several ideas where I can find some information on recording projects (almost definitely no ideas that others couldn't use just as easily of course- following up ensemble and performer recording schedules where possible - or composer fan club pages where they're well-informed - and a few others.) Apologies for hopefully mostly on-topic loquacity which will be juxtaposed later today with content...
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: britishcomposer on Saturday 12 November 2011, 18:15
Quote from: alberto on Saturday 12 November 2011, 13:45
I have to add:
G.F.Ghedini Four pieces by Frescobaldi transcribed for orchestra
                   Pezzo concertante for two violins, viola and orch.
G.F.Malipiero Concerti for orchestra
                      Cello concerto
                   

alberto, do you have recordings of these pieces or would you like me to upload Ghedini and the Malipiero Cello Concerto?
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: Dundonnell on Saturday 12 November 2011, 20:45
Quote from: alberto on Saturday 12 November 2011, 13:45
I have to add:
G.F.Ghedini Four pieces by Frescobaldi transcribed for orchestra
                   Pezzo concertante for two violins, viola and orch.
G.F.Malipiero Concerti for orchestra
                      Cello concerto
                   

Just in case you aren't aware but there is a cd recording of Malipiero's Cello Concerto with Siegfried Palm and the Festival Orchestra di villa Marigola/Giuseppe Garbino on Nuovo Era.
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: alberto on Sunday 13 November 2011, 10:46
For British Composer: I apologize but "in primis", as very unpratical of the web possibilities, I am not able to make uploads.
I have no recording of the two Malipiero pieces quoted by me.
I do have one "historical" recording of the two Ghedini works -and also of the "Pezzo concertante" (Guido Cantelli and NBC) on a CD of the label "ASdisc".
The label doesn't exist longer since some years; AS means "Andra Scarduelli": a gentleman who I suppose still living (and/or with heirs).
By the way I am not quite sure if Mr. AS had really legally the rights to produce and sell on CD those remote (but not too much: early fifties) radio broadcasts; so hypotetical uploads of AS disc could raise odd problems.
I thank Dundonnell for his indication of the Malipiero; but it was a Cd (I newer saw physically) of a label disappeared since some years.
From the same performers I do have a CD of the Casella Cello concerto (and of some other Casella works).
Years ago I had notice of an LP recording of the Pizzetti Cello Concerto with Mainardi and Giulini (no less) on the esoteric Canadian label Rococo (I have three or four LPs Rococo), but I never saw it.
Anyway my wish-list represents, besides a personal wish, also the desire of a kind of a dissemination of works I deem very worthy (I have at least listened them all).
 
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: britishcomposer on Sunday 13 November 2011, 12:12
alberto, I am sorry to have caused a misunderstanding: I did not want you to upload anything but asked if you would like to have any of these pieces uploaded by me.
But as you say you already have recordings of the Ghedini pieces. :)
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: alberto on Sunday 13 November 2011, 14:08
British composer, I thank you for your kindness and in my turn I apologize for my much perfectible English (it was that which caused the little misunderstanding).
In the occasion I indicate a further work in the wish-list:
Nino Rota: "Variazioni su un tema gioviale" for orchestra.
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: Jonathan on Monday 14 November 2011, 20:39
I've heard of a possible recording of some of Liszt's unrecorded orchestral music.  I am awaiting further news...
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: giles.enders on Tuesday 15 November 2011, 10:24
All you dreamers.  I am waiting for some one to say, I will give £5,000 towards a recording of ?  will some one match this.  It comes down to money.
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: Mark Thomas on Tuesday 15 November 2011, 11:43
Nothing wrong with dreaming, Giles, but I do agree. I've already done my bit over the last few years and its quite amazing the doors which money will open...
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: jerfilm on Tuesday 15 November 2011, 15:13
Giles, months and months ago I offered $5000 toward a possible recording project hoping that others might step up to the plate (as we say in baseball).  But it was completely ignored so I dropped the subject.....

Jerry
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: Christo on Tuesday 15 November 2011, 20:35
My wish list is very modest. I would be completely satisfied if Dutton, or another label, would embark on symphonic cycles of:

Arnold Cooke (6)
Stanley Bate (3, after the First was withdrawn - but Peggy Glanville-Hicks claimed he wrote "a dozen or more symphonies"!)
Léon Orthel (6)
Ruth Gipps (5)
William Wordsworth (8, isn't it?)
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 15 November 2011, 21:03
Ahem, no wish-lists allowed in this thread! See previous reminder...
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: Christo on Tuesday 15 November 2011, 22:01
Quote from: Alan Howe on Tuesday 15 November 2011, 21:03
Ahem, no wish-lists allowed in this thread! See previous reminder...

Oops. I wish I'd noticed it and I hope you'll forgive my transgression.  :-[ I do have high hopes of the ongoing Dutton project that brings us a about two new compositions by Stanley Bate every year. Now they've embarked on his piano concertos (there are five of them), no doubt, after the second of last month, more will follow in 2012.  :)
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 15 November 2011, 22:16
No problem, Christo! It's just that allowing wish-lists here will detract from a discussion of known future releases. Do feel free to start another thread on that subject...

Good to have you on the forum!
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: M. Henriksen on Monday 12 December 2011, 19:42
I was wondering... Schreker's opera Der Schmied von Gent was mentioned earlier on this forum as already recorded by cpo. Could 2012 be the year we'll see it issued. Any news on this one?


Morten
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: Paul Barasi on Tuesday 13 December 2011, 00:55
Hans Rott: lieder; Hamlet overture; Jarvi conducting 1st symphony (what warehouse this struck in?)

William Wallace: more symphonic poems; MacPhersons; Freebooters

Gus Mahler: symphony - Budapest 1889 version; Scherzo in C Minor and Presto in F Major

George Fred Bristow: more symphonies

Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: albion on Tuesday 13 December 2011, 08:47
Quote from: M. Henriksen on Monday 12 December 2011, 19:42
I was wondering... Schreker's opera Der Schmied von Gent was mentioned earlier on this forum as already recorded by cpo. Could 2012 be the year we'll see it issued. Any news on this one?


Morten

No news on this as yet, but it surely won't be too long now ...

::)

... if CPO don't get a move on, I might just have to upload my broadcast!

;)
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: Paul Barasi on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 22:55
... and about time there were some Wilfred Josephs CDs of his major works, like symphonies.
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: malito on Saturday 24 December 2011, 04:15
I said I would not die until I heard all of the Myaskovsky symphonies and, lo and behold, all were released in the now famous box set.  Now I want to hear the Pizzetti Violin Concerto (how has that not been taken up by someone???) and so many more.  Every day I thank God that I discovered serious music in college.  Mal
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: isokani on Saturday 24 December 2011, 08:39
Janis Medins: 24 Dainas [first CD recording]
Egon Kornauth: Piano works vol.1
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: alberto on Monday 26 December 2011, 08:34
About reply 24, for Mal.
The Pizzetti Violin Concerto exists on Bongiovanni 5162-2 (2010 release). Crtomir Siskovic soloist, Orch.Filarmonica Marchigiana cond. Daniele Agiman. The work is substantial and, for me, magnificent, the performance IMHO more than acceptable.
Couplings: Dallapiccola Tartiniana Seconda; Casella : La Giara suite from the ballet (uncomplete, as the tenor soloist is missing, and that is not acceptable).
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: violinconcerto on Monday 26 December 2011, 09:51
Quote from: alberto on Monday 26 December 2011, 08:34
About reply 24, for Mal.
The Pizzetti Violin Concerto exists on Bongiovanni 5162-2 (2010 release). Crtomir Siskovic soloist, Orch.Filarmonica Marchigiana cond. Daniele Agiman. The work is substantial and, for me, magnificent, the performance IMHO more than acceptable.
Couplings: Dallapiccola Tartiniana Seconda; Casella : La Giara suite from the ballet (uncomplete, as the tenor soloist is missing, and that is not acceptable).

Just a small correction: The coupled work by Dallapiccola is not the second Tartiniana, but the first one!

Best,
Tobias
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 07 January 2012, 02:42
More Kornauth is a good thing, from what I've seen (I should try to get a listen to what little there is, including a work coupled with Robert Fuchs' lovely-in-my-honest-opinion clarinet quintet...)
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: violinconcerto on Friday 03 February 2012, 13:29
Just want to let all members here know that in a few days a recording of the second violin concerto by Gian Francesco Malipiero will be released by the Italian label Stradivarius - that is a world premiere recording some of you definitely were waiting for years! Soloist in the performance is Francesco Parrino and it is coupled with the flute concerto, symphony No.6 "degli archi" and "Rispetti e strambotti", all by G.F. Malipiero.

Here the website of the record label: www.stradivarius.it (http://www.stradivarius.it)

Best,
Tobias
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 03 February 2012, 14:28
Thanks for the news! I have a few Stradivarius CDs (archive  broadcasts, mostly) and have been interested in hearing the 2nd Malipiero concerto...
Title: Re: Hopes for 2012
Post by: Dundonnell on Friday 03 February 2012, 16:03
Excellent news indeed about the Malipiero Violin Concerto No.2 and Flute Concerto :)

This release will plug two important gaps in the Malipiero discography.