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The Music => Composers & Music => Topic started by: Peter1953 on Tuesday 17 January 2012, 16:59

Title: Rubinstein’s Piano Concerto No. 2
Post by: Peter1953 on Tuesday 17 January 2012, 16:59
This afternoon I've been listening twice to Rubi's 2nd. It has been too long ago. I didn't realize that I could be so strongly begeistert by the very subtle, emotional Adagio non troppo. How deeply heartfelt.

I'm wondering what members think of Rubinstein's Second?
Title: Re: Rubinstein’s Piano Concerto No. 2
Post by: Mark Thomas on Tuesday 17 January 2012, 19:11
Truth be told, I haven't listened to it for some time but off the cuff I remember it as being a work almost as engaging as the Third. It's the Fourth (see another thread) and the rather disjointed and naive First which I don't really rate. I'm very fond of the Konzertstueck too.
Title: Re: Rubinstein’s Piano Concerto No. 2
Post by: saxtromba on Wednesday 18 January 2012, 16:28
I have always loved this concerto, even before it had been recorded (I was able to see a two-piano score and play the slow movement-- but not the others!).  It has a joie de vivre which very few other concerti have.  Even Balakirev had at least some respect for it; it was one of the concerti he specifically studied when composing his own first concerto.  It deserves to be much better known; I would rank it with Beethoven 3, and above either of the Liszt concerti, for example.
Title: Re: Rubinstein’s Piano Concerto No. 2
Post by: JimL on Wednesday 18 January 2012, 20:17
I like the work, but I don't love it quite as much as the last 3.  Of course, the only performance I know of that is currently available is the Banowetz on MP, which is probably the worst performance, orchestra-wise, of the series he did for that label.  There was another performance on Russian Disc that I used to own (I forget the performers) that was how I first became familiar with the work.  That overall performance was much better than Banowetz and crew's, but the coupling was with a 4th PC performance that was so putridly sluggish that I couldn't abide it, so I gave the CD away.
Title: Re: Rubinstein’s Piano Concerto No. 2
Post by: edurban on Thursday 19 January 2012, 02:03
"...I would rank it with Beethoven 3..."

Oh dear.  In what respect?

David
Title: Re: Rubinstein’s Piano Concerto No. 2
Post by: FBerwald on Thursday 19 January 2012, 05:10
The only problem with the Banowetz performance was the instrument. Almost sounded like a forte piano. A shame as his playing is phenomenal.
Title: Re: Rubinstein’s Piano Concerto No. 2
Post by: JimL on Thursday 19 January 2012, 06:40
Nah.  I agree about the piano, but Alfred Walter's tempo in the Allegro vivace assai is way too flaccid, with some rather bizarre distortions.  Thanks for reminding me how tubby the piano sounds, too.