Unsung Composers

The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: Alan Howe on Friday 20 January 2012, 20:07

Title: Cello Sonatas by Krizhanovsky & Potolovsky
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 20 January 2012, 20:07
Fancy some full-blooded Slavic chamber music? Then look no further than this superb new release of cello sonatas by Ivan Krizhanovsky (1867-1924) and Nikolai Potolovsky (1878-1927) on Acte Préalable:
http://www.acteprealable.com/albums/new_ap0220.html (http://www.acteprealable.com/albums/new_ap0220.html)
Excerpts here:
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Nikolai-Potolovsky-1878-1927-Sonate-f%FCr-Cello-Klavier-op-2/hnum/3283129 (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Nikolai-Potolovsky-1878-1927-Sonate-f%FCr-Cello-Klavier-op-2/hnum/3283129)
(tracks 1-3: Krizhanovsky Cello Sonata; 4-5: Potolovsky Deux pièces; 6-8: Potolovsky Cello Sonata)
Title: Re: Cello Sonatas by Krizhanovsky & Potolovsky
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Friday 20 January 2012, 22:30
Acte Prealable produce some splendid disks. People might like to know that Valentina Seferinova will record a disk of solo piano music by Rozycki for the label this year.
Title: Re: Cello Sonatas by Krizhanovsky & Potolovsky
Post by: febnyc on Saturday 21 January 2012, 23:45
Thanks for the notice.  A great label, indeed.  I have lots of AP discs - and have just ordered this one.  From the excerpts it all sounds schmaltzy enough for a good wallow.
Title: Re: Cello Sonatas by Krizhanovsky & Potolovsky
Post by: febnyc on Saturday 04 February 2012, 20:32
It just occurred to me that Krizhanovsky retains the singular honor of having been one of the 48 names of Russian composers in the song "Tchaikovsky (and other Russians)," lyrics by George Gershwin - featured in the 1941 Broadway musical Lady in the Dark.  The inimitable Danny Kaye made this patter-song famous by reeling off all the names in less than a minute.  Great stuff!

http://youtu.be/hh-wOvuOHPE (http://youtu.be/hh-wOvuOHPE)

There's Malichevsky, Rubinstein, Arensky, and Tschaikowsky,
Sapelnikoff, Dimitrieff, Tscherepnin, Kryjanowsky,
Godowsky, Arteiboucheff, Moniuszko, Akimenko,
Solovieff, Prokofieff, Tiomkin, Korestchenko.

There's Glinka, Winkler, Bortniansky, Rebikoff, Ilyinsky,
There's Medtner, Balakireff, Zolotareff, and Kvoschinsky.
And Sokoloff and Kopyloff, Dukelsky, and Klenowsky,
And Shostakovitsch, Borodine, Glière, and Nowakofski.

There's Liadoff and Karganoff, Markievitch, Pantschenko
And Dargomyzski, Stcherbatcheff, Scriabine, Vassilenko,
Stravinsky, Rimsky-Korsakoff, Mussorgsky, and Gretchaninoff
And Glazounoff and Caesar Cui, Kalinikoff, Rachmaninoff,

Stravinsky and Gretchnaninoff,
Rumshinsky and Rachmaninoff,
I really have to stop, the subject has been dwelt upon enough!

He'd better stop because we feel we all have undergone enough!
Title: Re: Cello Sonatas by Krizhanovsky & Potolovsky
Post by: JimL on Saturday 04 February 2012, 21:34
Quote from: febnyc on Saturday 04 February 2012, 20:32
It just occurred to me that Krizhanovsky retains the singular honor of having been one of the 48 names of Russian composers in the song "Tchaikovsky (and other Russians)," lyrics by George Gershwin - featured in the 1941 Broadway musical Lady in the Dark.  The inimitable Danny Kaye made this patter-song famous by reeling off all the names in less than a minute.  Great stuff!

http://youtu.be/hh-wOvuOHPE (http://youtu.be/hh-wOvuOHPE)

There's Malichevsky, Rubinstein, Arensky, and Tschaikowsky,
Sapelnikoff, Dimitrieff, Tscherepnin, Kryjanowsky,
Godowsky, Arteiboucheff, Moniuszko, Akimenko,
Solovieff, Prokofieff, Tiomkin, Korestchenko.

There's Glinka, Winkler, Bortniansky, Rebikoff, Ilyinsky,
There's Medtner, Balakireff, Zolotareff, and Kvoschinsky.
And Sokoloff and Kopyloff, Dukelsky, and Klenowsky,
And Shostakovitsch, Borodine, Glière, and Nowakofski.

There's Liadoff and Karganoff, Markievitch, Pantschenko
And Dargomyzski, Stcherbatcheff, Scriabine, Vassilenko,
Stravinsky, Rimsky-Korsakoff, Mussorgsky, and Gretchaninoff
And Glazounoff and Caesar Cui, Kalinikoff, Rachmaninoff,

Stravinsky and Gretchnaninoff,
Rumshinsky and Rachmaninoff,
I really have to stop, the subject has been dwelt upon enough!

He'd better stop because we feel we all have undergone enough!
I thought George's brother Ira was the lyricist.  And if George had written those lyrics he most likely did it before 1941, because by then he'd been dead for 4 years!
Title: Re: Cello Sonatas by Krizhanovsky & Potolovsky
Post by: febnyc on Saturday 04 February 2012, 21:38
Touché to you - of course it was Ira who wrote the lyrics.  They're still brilliant, in spite of my senility.  (And, PS, lots of unsungs sung in this song!)
Title: Re: Cello Sonatas by Krizhanovsky & Potolovsky
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 05 February 2012, 03:13
Reminds me tangentially of a song by Cole Porter, but that suggests another topic. Anyway. :) Thanks!
Title: Re: Cello Sonatas by Krizhanovsky & Potolovsky
Post by: JimL on Sunday 05 February 2012, 07:36
Quote from: febnyc on Saturday 04 February 2012, 20:32...and Gretchaninoff
And Glazounoff and Caesar Cui, Kalinikoff, Rachmaninoff,

Stravinsky and Gretchnaninoff,
Rumshinsky and Rachmaninoff,
I really have to stop, the subject has been dwelt upon enough!

He'd better stop because we feel we all have undergone enough![/i]

Quote from: febnyc on Saturday 04 February 2012, 21:38
Touché to you - of course it was Ira who wrote the lyrics.  They're still brilliant, in spite of my senility.  (And, PS, lots of unsungs sung in this song!)
Well, did Ira Gershwin also mention Gretchaninoff and Rachmaninoff twice, or was that also just senile old you?  ;D
Title: Re: Cello Sonatas by Krizhanovsky & Potolovsky
Post by: febnyc on Sunday 05 February 2012, 14:42
Quote from: JimL on Sunday 05 February 2012, 07:36
Well, did Ira Gershwin also mention Gretchaninoff and Rachmaninoff twice, or was that also just senile old you?  ;D

I assume you did not listen to the YouTube clip, are not familiar with the song - or simply are tongue-in-cheekish (always hard to ascertain in a written comment).

These were Ira Gershwin's lyrics, not my senility.   ::)

Title: Re: Cello Sonatas by Krizhanovsky & Potolovsky
Post by: JimL on Sunday 05 February 2012, 15:16
Well, he could have fit Potolovsky in there somewhere.  ;)  And no, I didn't listen to the YT.  Guess I'll have to now.  Without having done so may I venture a guess that it is sung to the tune of the Major General's Song from Pirates?
Title: Re: Cello Sonatas by Krizhanovsky & Potolovsky
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 05 February 2012, 17:10
Enough already! Let's get back to the music!
Title: Re: Cello Sonatas by Krizhanovsky & Potolovsky
Post by: Christopher on Sunday 05 February 2012, 20:23
Quote from: febnyc on Saturday 04 February 2012, 20:32
It just occurred to me that Krizhanovsky retains the singular honor of having been one of the 48 names of Russian composers in the song "Tchaikovsky (and other Russians)," lyrics by George Gershwin - featured in the 1941 Broadway musical Lady in the Dark.  The inimitable Danny Kaye made this patter-song famous by reeling off all the names in less than a minute.  Great stuff!

http://youtu.be/hh-wOvuOHPE (http://youtu.be/hh-wOvuOHPE)

There's Malichevsky, Rubinstein, Arensky, and Tschaikowsky,
Sapelnikoff, Dimitrieff, Tscherepnin, Kryjanowsky,
Godowsky, Arteiboucheff, Moniuszko, Akimenko,
Solovieff, Prokofieff, Tiomkin, Korestchenko.

There's Glinka, Winkler, Bortniansky, Rebikoff, Ilyinsky,
There's Medtner, Balakireff, Zolotareff, and Kvoschinsky.
And Sokoloff and Kopyloff, Dukelsky, and Klenowsky,
And Shostakovitsch, Borodine, Glière, and Nowakofski.

There's Liadoff and Karganoff, Markievitch, Pantschenko
And Dargomyzski, Stcherbatcheff, Scriabine, Vassilenko,
Stravinsky, Rimsky-Korsakoff, Mussorgsky, and Gretchaninoff
And Glazounoff and Caesar Cui, Kalinikoff, Rachmaninoff,

Stravinsky and Gretchnaninoff,
Rumshinsky and Rachmaninoff,
I really have to stop, the subject has been dwelt upon enough!

He'd better stop because we feel we all have undergone enough!



Moniuszko Russian?!!
Title: Re: Cello Sonatas by Krizhanovsky & Potolovsky
Post by: markniew on Sunday 05 February 2012, 21:20
And Malichevsky (Maliszewski) and Nowakofski (Nowakowski)?
Title: Re: Cello Sonatas by Krizhanovsky & Potolovsky
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 05 February 2012, 21:50
As I said, back to the music, please!
Title: Re: Cello Sonatas by Krizhanovsky & Potolovsky
Post by: febnyc on Monday 06 February 2012, 18:23
Quote from: Alan Howe on Sunday 05 February 2012, 21:50
As I said, back to the music, please!

Party pooper!   :P
Title: Re: Cello Sonatas by Krizhanovsky & Potolovsky
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 06 February 2012, 20:21
You are welcome to start another thread...
Title: Re: Cello Sonatas by Krizhanovsky & Potolovsky
Post by: febnyc on Monday 06 February 2012, 22:44
Oh, many thanks.

I'll drop the subject of the Russian composers song - am getting too much flak from all quarters.  Anyway, our boy Krizhanovsky is therein memorialized for all eternity.
Title: Re: Cello Sonatas by Krizhanovsky & Potolovsky
Post by: Christopher on Tuesday 07 February 2012, 11:21
As punishment you should pick out the Unsungs from the song and direct us to recordings of their works!!  :D
Title: Re: Cello Sonatas by Krizhanovsky & Potolovsky
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 07 February 2012, 11:56
Fine! But not in this thread!  ;)
Title: Re: Cello Sonatas by Krizhanovsky & Potolovsky
Post by: febnyc on Monday 27 February 2012, 20:55
Quote from: Alan Howe on Sunday 05 February 2012, 17:10
Enough already! Let's get back to the music!

Well, to get back to the music - albeit a bit late - these are two gorgeous Sonatas.  I cannot decide which is the better, so I'll take them equally.  Inter alia, the Khrizhanovsky has a magnificent slow movement and the Potolovsky finale is almost orchestral - amazing to realize that there are only two instruments at work here.  The cellist Jaroslav Domzal is marvelous.  A 5-star disc, to be sure.
Title: Re: Cello Sonatas by Krizhanovsky & Potolovsky
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 27 February 2012, 22:14
Glad you like them too. Thought it was just me...
Title: Re: Cello Sonatas by Krizhanovsky & Potolovsky
Post by: tuatara442442 on Wednesday 02 October 2024, 01:39
I'm listening to these two these days. These two wonderful cello sonatas by two names completely unknown to me are really astonishing. These instantly leap into the league of my favorite cello sonatas!
In fact before listening to these I just tried de Hartmann's repetitive and desultory (and really, melodically uninteresting) string sonatas and PC (the finale of his cello sonata finally saved his day though). And that just strengthened my good impression on these pieces.
I strongly urge you to take out your discs and give it another spin.