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The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: mjkFendrich on Wednesday 13 June 2012, 08:58

Title: Enescu: Symphony No.5 + Isis
Post by: mjkFendrich on Wednesday 13 June 2012, 08:58
Enescu's 5th symphony (completed by P.Bentoiu) + Isis

Deutsche Radio Philharmonie
conducted by Peter Ruzicka
Marius Vlad, Tenor
Thomas Bauer, Bariton
NDR Chor

quasi live broadcast (with a time shift of 1 hour) from a forthcoming Matinée concert in Saarbrücken / Germany
17.06.2012 | SR2 | 12:00
Title: Re: Enescu: Symphony No.5 + Isis
Post by: lechner1110 on Sunday 17 June 2012, 14:25

  Hi, I recorded tonight's concert.  I will edit and upload them ;)
Title: Re: Enescu: Symphony No.5 + Isis
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 18 May 2014, 18:57
If you uploaded this (I see you did, Jun 17 2012), please reconsider (well, ok, probably no longer exists in the new scheme of things anyway but) - this is now a recording on the cpo label (just announced as a new release, anyway, coupled together).
Title: Re: Enescu: Symphony No.5 + Isis
Post by: Mykulh on Sunday 18 May 2014, 22:08
Source of this information, olease?
Title: Re: Enescu: Symphony No.5 + Isis
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 18 May 2014, 22:34
Hi Mike,
Here's the link:
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/cpo/detail/-/art/george-enescu-symphonie-nr-5-fuer-tenor-frauenchor-orchester/hnum/3097665 (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/cpo/detail/-/art/george-enescu-symphonie-nr-5-fuer-tenor-frauenchor-orchester/hnum/3097665)
Title: Re: Enescu: Symphony No.5 + Isis
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 18 May 2014, 22:47
Oh- sorry, yes, got it directly from the new releases section of JPC.de.
Title: Re: Enescu: Symphony No.5 + Isis
Post by: Mykulh on Sunday 18 May 2014, 22:56
Thanks Alan abd Eric. Now, if only CPO would give catalogue numbers on their webpage....!
Title: Re: Enescu: Symphony No.5 + Isis
Post by: eschiss1 on Monday 19 May 2014, 08:23
btw, cpo/jpc have a point- while these two works have been broadcast a fair deal if one's been fortunate enough to hear them that way (assuming they're one's cup of tea in the first place, as they are mine- the 5th symphony with its impressive funeral march especially) - this is, I think, the commercial recording premiere, after 20 years (from the time of reconstruction-from-sketches). (Of course that's rather less than some works have waited, my only point I guess, slight as it was, was that for some reason I'd managed to assume they'd been recorded even as much as a few times already, maybe subconsciously just because I do know I've heard a few different broadcast recordings of both (the symphony and Isis, I think) already (at least the ones that were on BBC a few years ago and the more recent ones from the Enescu Festival a couple of years back...) ;) )
Title: Re: Enescu: Symphony No.5 + Isis
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Monday 19 May 2014, 10:18
Does anyone know of any plans to record the reconstructed 4th Symphony?
Title: Re: Enescu: Symphony No.5 + Isis
Post by: BerlinExpat on Monday 19 May 2014, 21:33
It was also reconstructed by Pascal Bentoiu, in 1996, and was recorded in the Mihail Hall of the Romanian Radio Society, 6th September 2011. It was played by the Transilvania State Philharmonic - Cluj and was available on YouTube at the time. It's in three movements but I have no further information except that it's 30 minutes in length. Can upload if it's no longer available.
Title: Re: Enescu: Symphony No.5 + Isis
Post by: eschiss1 on Monday 19 May 2014, 22:43
I think he meant _commercially_ record, given the context (since I referred to a commercial recording of the 5th symphony and indeed there I think is an upload of the 4th and 5th symphony on our site (and the other symphonies, except no.2) - though one of the uploads of the 5th symphony (& Isis) should probably be removed in light of this cpo announcement, per our rules, I believe), but maybe not?...
Title: Re: Enescu: Symphony No.5 + Isis
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Tuesday 20 May 2014, 16:39
Thanks, Eric. Yes, I meant "commercially" recorded. Sorry. I should have been clearer.
Title: Re: Enescu: Symphony No.5 + Isis
Post by: eschiss1 on Monday 26 May 2014, 11:50
According to a comment on someone's YouTube (from 2 years ago, which I just noticed), there -is- or was a recording of the 4th and 5th symphonies on the label Editura, conducted by Andreescu. Ah. Ok!...
Title: Re: Enescu: Symphony No.5 + Isis
Post by: bulleid_pacific on Thursday 07 August 2014, 17:58
... which are presumably the same as these OOP Olympia releases...

http://www.allmusic.com/album/enescu-complete-orchestral-works-vol-1-mw0001815769 (http://www.allmusic.com/album/enescu-complete-orchestral-works-vol-1-mw0001815769)

http://www.allmusic.com/album/enescu-complete-orchestral-works-vol-6-mw0001823618 (http://www.allmusic.com/album/enescu-complete-orchestral-works-vol-6-mw0001823618) ....
Title: Re: Enescu: Symphony No.5 + Isis
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 07 August 2014, 18:48
Those links are to recordings which include performances of two of the four 'Study Symphonies' which predate Enescu's official Symphony No.1.
Title: Re: Enescu: Symphony No.5 + Isis
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 07 August 2014, 21:58
According to Mike Herman's discography, they were recorded on the album Editura Casa Radio 090, recorded 1998, released 2003. The two study symphony recordings were released in 1996, so they're of course not the same!
Title: Re: Enescu: Symphony No.5 + Isis
Post by: semloh on Saturday 09 August 2014, 06:05
So, Eric, are you saying that the version I downloaded from UC (Romanian radio, live concert 7th Sept. 2011) is not a commercial recording? Sorry, but I had difficulty following the argument.....  ::)
Title: Re: Enescu: Symphony No.5 + Isis
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 09 August 2014, 14:25
there've been two recordings- the Editura and the cpo recording. Allmusic claims that the cpo CD was recorded in June 2012. So I'm guessing that by our rules that since the live concert wasn't just a preparatory concert before the studio recording, or suchlike (which as I recall has also been sometimes been ruled inadmissable, I think... not sure... :) ) - well- I was mistaken, and apologize for the error and for this thread :(
Title: Re: Enescu: Symphony No.5 + Isis
Post by: semloh on Sunday 10 August 2014, 03:06
No need to apologize, Eric - best to get these matters sorted as best we can.  ;)