Unsung Composers

The Music => Composers & Music => Topic started by: LateRomantic75 on Saturday 04 January 2014, 19:05

Title: Stan Golestan (1875-1956)
Post by: LateRomantic75 on Saturday 04 January 2014, 19:05
I've been intrigued by this Romanian late-romantic who was an exact contemporary of Gliere. His French Wikipedia article provides a tantalizing work list, including a symphony and four concertos: http://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Golestan (http://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Golestan)

There's a couple short chamber works by Golestan on YouTube, and his Romanian Rhapsody for orchestra has been recorded on CD: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00000G2IQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?qid=1388861893&sr=8-5&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00000G2IQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?qid=1388861893&sr=8-5&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70)

IMSLP holds his Arioso and Allegro de concert for viola and piano (which is on YT) and a promising-looking Violin Sonata: http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Golestan,_Stan (http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Golestan,_Stan)

Anyone have more info on Golestan?
Title: Re: Stan Golestan (1875-1956)
Post by: Mykulh on Saturday 04 January 2014, 21:33
His Carpathian Piano Concerto (1935-8) appeared on ELECTRECORD ECE 493 (LP) in 1966 coupled  with Filip Lazar's Chamber Concerto No. 4. I haven't heard it in many years but I remember the Golestan as an attractive nationalistic work.
Title: Re: Stan Golestan (1875-1956)
Post by: LateRomantic75 on Sunday 05 January 2014, 18:47
Thanks for your response, Mike. That concerto sounds quite interesting!
Title: Re: Stan Golestan (1875-1956)
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 05 January 2014, 22:33
His Romanian Rhapsody has been recorded on CD? (Ah, Piero Coppola conducting, so it's not the same recording we have uploaded in the "archives". We also have the Carpathian Piano concerto, I think, though not under that name...- do a forum-side search on Golestan.)

(Never mind, that latter file is missing.)
Title: Re: Stan Golestan (1875-1956)
Post by: DennisS on Monday 06 January 2014, 01:47
It's a pity that the piano concerto under its title Concertul Carpatic in the Archives Romanian music is no longer there. I presume that it was taken down. Did anyone download this folder and if so, would they be prepared to re-upload it?
Title: Re: Stan Golestan (1875-1956)
Post by: eschiss1 on Monday 06 January 2014, 02:30
Unfortunately, I didn't. I don't know if it was so much taken down as went bye when the person/specific account who uploaded it/was linked to it ceased to be any longer a member of this site (I'm not sure why this would cause the folder to disappear, but it consistently seems to be that way, with other examples coming to mind. I think it has something to do with site software among other things on "Simple Machines"' end.)
Title: Re: Stan Golestan (1875-1956)
Post by: Mark Thomas on Monday 06 January 2014, 08:52
No, it's non-availability has nothing to do with the forum software, Eric. I assume that the poster removed it from MediaFire, or changed the link there, when he left UC.
Title: Re: Stan Golestan (1875-1956)
Post by: Richard Moss on Monday 06 January 2014, 09:34
DennisS

I did download them at the time.  If no-one else is able to upload them, then whilst I don't know how to upload per se, if you or Mark/Alan send me an appropriate e-mail address, I'll happily forward the mp3 files involved.

Best wishes

Richard
Title: Re: Stan Golestan (1875-1956)
Post by: Mark Thomas on Monday 06 January 2014, 13:24
Richard, I'll email or PM you at the end of this week, when I get back home. Thanks very much for the offer.
Title: Re: Stan Golestan (1875-1956)
Post by: Romantiker on Friday 13 February 2015, 02:03
Hi.  I cam to this forum looking for more information on Stan Golestan's Eglogue for clarinet and piano from 1933 .  It is a piece that I have played for many years.  I am coming back to it because its similarities to the clarinet version of Willson Osborne's Rhapsody for bassoon from 1958.  They both have a Monteverdi feeling about them.  I have the full sheet music for it if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: Stan Golestan (1875-1956)
Post by: Richard Moss on Friday 13 February 2015, 10:08
Mark,

Just prompted by the latest post to Golestan - are the mp3 for his PC and Rhapsody still wanted (as per our earlier exchange).

Cheers

Richard
Title: Re: Stan Golestan (1875-1956)
Post by: DennisS on Friday 13 February 2015, 11:17
Hello Richard

I for one would love to have the PC as it sounds particularly intriguing. Sounds like the sort of Eastern European music I would really enjoy!

Cheers
Dennis
Title: Re: Stan Golestan (1875-1956)
Post by: Richard Moss on Friday 13 February 2015, 14:13
Dennis,

I don't have the knowhow/means/account to upload, but if you let me have your e-mail address (via a personal e-mail within the forum, I believe is the best route), I'll happily forward them to you (unless administrators want to handle it otherwise).

Cheers

Richard
Title: Re: Stan Golestan (1875-1956)
Post by: semloh on Saturday 14 February 2015, 04:05
Golestan's Romanian Rhapsody is an engaging neo-romantic work, and I think it may be available on YouTube. His Carpatic Concerto is, in my view, less successful - again it may be on YT (ex-Electrecord LP).
Title: Re: Stan Golestan (1875-1956)
Post by: Music33 on Monday 16 February 2015, 22:51
I've uploaded Stan Golestan's "Carpathian Piano Concerto" (1935-38).
Title: Re: Stan Golestan (1875-1956)
Post by: JimL on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 17:30
Do you have the movement information, or is it a single-movement work?
Title: Re: Stan Golestan (1875-1956)
Post by: DennisS on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 18:30
Thank you Music 33 for your upload. It was much appreciated. Thank you also Richard for your kind offer to email this work. It's great that members on this forum are always keen to share. thanks again.
Title: Re: Stan Golestan (1875-1956)
Post by: Richard Moss on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 19:18
Jim,

The original UC upload (I'm assuming the new upload is the same work) was in 4 movements; timings (give or take a second or so) were 13'24; 1'14; 3'18 and 5'10.  I didn't find out the tempi  for these movements, so if anyone has them, that would be much appreciated.

Cheers

Richard
Title: Re: Stan Golestan (1875-1956)
Post by: eschiss1 on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 23:44
The movements have descriptive names:

1. Jour de Fête  ; (1a?) Voix dans la nuit 
2. Solitude  --
3. Joies des foules.

Don't know the tempo designations. The (1a?) is mine. See
http://know.freelibrary.org/vufind/Record/1589155 (http://know.freelibrary.org/vufind/Record/1589155)  and http://know.freelibrary.org/vufind/Record/11782 (http://know.freelibrary.org/vufind/Record/11782) . (The latter copy I may be able to interloan from them- if so, I can browse the score myself and add to this information. In a few months; right now I'm sort of full up on interloan-queue at the library.)
Title: Re: Stan Golestan (1875-1956)
Post by: Richard Moss on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 09:20
Eric,

Tks for updt on movement titles

Richard
Title: Re: Stan Golestan (1875-1956)
Post by: eschiss1 on Monday 04 May 2015, 05:30
Has anyone heard either of his (first two?) string quartets?
Title: Re: Stan Golestan (1875-1956)
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 16 May 2015, 19:16
Also, his (first? I think there may be two) Romanian Rhapsody received its first performance in England at the Proms on 13 September 1919. (Random comment...)
Title: Re: Stan Golestan (1875-1956)
Post by: Christopher on Saturday 07 September 2019, 20:44
It seems there was a concert in Romania at the end of last year when Golestan's "Moldavian Suite for cello and orchestra" was performed. 

http://revistaartaiasi.ro/?p=1024#comment-1429 (http://revistaartaiasi.ro/?p=1024#comment-1429)

I am trying to find out if this was recorded or broadcast (a read-through of the article, using google-translate from Romanian, implies it might have been).  Does anyone else have any idea of how to find out in Romania?
Title: Re: Stan Golestan (1875-1956)
Post by: brendangcarroll on Friday 13 September 2019, 15:26
His Violin Sonata in Eb has been recorded on a CD that was released August 30. It also features Korngold's Much Ado About Nothing suite and the Richard Strauss sonata.

http://www.genuin.de/en/04_d.php?k=528
Title: Re: Stan Golestan (1875-1956)
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 13 September 2019, 16:06
...which is already the subject of this more specific thread in the Recordings & Broadcasts board:
http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php/topic,7372.0.html (http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php/topic,7372.0.html)

Hint: it's always worth doing a quick search/double-check before posting.
Title: Re: Stan Golestan (1875-1956)
Post by: Christopher on Tuesday 17 September 2019, 18:58
Quote from: Christopher on Saturday 07 September 2019, 20:44
It seems there was a concert in Romania at the end of last year when Golestan's "Moldavian Suite for cello and orchestra" was performed. 

http://revistaartaiasi.ro/?p=1024#comment-1429 (http://revistaartaiasi.ro/?p=1024#comment-1429)

I am trying to find out if this was recorded or broadcast (a read-through of the article, using google-translate from Romanian, implies it might have been).  Does anyone else have any idea of how to find out in Romania?

OK - I now have a bee in my bonnet about this.  The concert also featured the piano concerto by Paul Constantinescu (1909-1963 - NOT our era) - and this was recorded and posted onto youtube - see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n2fVGutlbU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n2fVGutlbU).    Which to me implies that the whole concert must also have been recorded! 

I have written a message on that youtube page asking if a recording of the rest of the concert is available and can be posted...perhaps others on here who have google (youtube) accounts (and who care....) could do the same, to see if that generates a response.   I have also left a message on the youtube home channel page of the pianist of the Constantinescu, Raluca Stirbat (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCql2kWDLCJMl9OCgdDwwXpA/discussion (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCql2kWDLCJMl9OCgdDwwXpA/discussion)) asking the same.  And in the comments section of the first youtube page it says "Video by Andrei Popovici" - I have found a cameraman by that name on LinkedIn and written to him to ask if (a) it was him and (b) did he film the rest of the concert.

Anything I receive I will post of course.

Obsessed? Me?!

(http://revistaartaiasi.ro/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/44262491_2174650439236503_7164544433763909632_n-e1541656314373.jpg)
Title: Re: Stan Golestan (1875-1956)
Post by: Mark Thomas on Tuesday 17 September 2019, 20:22
Very thorough, Christopher. We'll keep our fingers crossed, eh?
Title: Re: Stan Golestan (1875-1956)
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 17 September 2019, 21:59
Tightly.
Title: Re: Stan Golestan (1875-1956)
Post by: Christopher on Friday 20 September 2019, 17:01
So - the cellist in the Golestan performance was Mirel Iancovici.  I found that he has his own website - http://mireliancovici.com (http://mireliancovici.com) - with a page giving an email address - http://mireliancovici.com/contact.html (http://mireliancovici.com/contact.html).  In high excitement I wrote to this email address to ask Mr Iancovici about his performance and whether it had been recorded....and immediately received a delivery failure notice.  So disappointing!

Any suggestions anyone?!

The conductor of the concert was Adrian Morar.

I know that there are professional conductors on this forum....would any care to share if there is a professional network of conductors via which enquiries could be made?

Or cellists, for that matter...