Unsung Composers

The Music => Composers & Music => Topic started by: vicharris on Sunday 26 January 2014, 22:19

Title: Joseph Dente 1838-1905 Symphony on P2 Sveriges Radio
Post by: vicharris on Sunday 26 January 2014, 22:19
Can be played on demand:
http://sverigesradio.se/sida/tabla.aspx?programid=163&date=2014-01-25 (http://sverigesradio.se/sida/tabla.aspx?programid=163&date=2014-01-25)
http://www.mic.stim.se/avd/mic/prod/micv6.nsf/docsbycodename/soekresultat?opendocument&fraga=joseph+dente (http://www.mic.stim.se/avd/mic/prod/micv6.nsf/docsbycodename/soekresultat?opendocument&fraga=joseph+dente)

Nice uncomplicated symphony from a composer I had not heard of before, he was a teacher to Helena Munktell.
Title: Re: Joseph Dente 1838-1905 Symphony on P2 Sveriges Radio
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 26 January 2014, 22:43
Lovely, open-hearted stuff indeed. A pity there's no commercial recording. Thanks so much for the link.

Did anyone actually manage to record the broadcast?
Title: Re: Joseph Dente 1838-1905 Symphony on P2 Sveriges Radio
Post by: LateRomantic75 on Monday 27 January 2014, 03:11
Very pleasant listening-thanks for the link! But it's nothing I'm dying to see commercially recorded...
Title: Re: Joseph Dente 1838-1905 Symphony on P2 Sveriges Radio
Post by: jerfilm on Monday 27 January 2014, 16:05
I recorded this - is it permissible to upload?  They say it's from a 1992 concert in the Berwald Hall......

Jerry
Title: Re: Joseph Dente 1838-1905 Symphony on P2 Sveriges Radio
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 27 January 2014, 16:08
Oh please do, Jerry. It's right up my street!
Title: Re: Joseph Dente 1838-1905 Symphony on P2 Sveriges Radio
Post by: jerfilm on Monday 27 January 2014, 17:13
It is posted in the Downloads section.  About 24 minutes and apparently only 3 movements.  But an enjoyable work if not real "deep".......

thanks, Vicharris, for putting us on to it.

Jerry
Title: Re: Joseph Dente 1838-1905 Symphony on P2 Sveriges Radio
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 27 January 2014, 17:34
Thanks, Jerry. Very good of you.
Title: Re: Joseph Dente 1838-1905 Symphony on P2 Sveriges Radio
Post by: jerfilm on Monday 27 January 2014, 18:09
Oh, you're so very welcome, Alan.   it was about my turn to post something.  :) :)

J
Title: Re: Joseph Dente 1838-1905 Symphony on P2 Sveriges Radio
Post by: semloh on Monday 27 January 2014, 22:57
What a great way to start the day - with this sparkling, brightly played and engaging music.
Sincere thanks 'jerfilm'  :) :)

Joseph Dente - yet another unjustly unsung composer. It's hard to understand why this particular symphony has been so neglected. It's so enjoyable. I do hope we'll hear more about and by him ...
Title: Re: Joseph Dente 1838-1905 Symphony on P2 Sveriges Radio
Post by: regriba on Tuesday 28 January 2014, 07:49
About 24 minutes and apparently only 3 movements.

According to http://levandemusikarv.se/tonsattare/dente-joseph/ (http://levandemusikarv.se/tonsattare/dente-joseph/) the symphony is in four movements and lasts for about 30 minutes. Maybe a movement is missing?
Title: Re: Joseph Dente 1838-1905 Symphony on P2 Sveriges Radio
Post by: regriba on Tuesday 28 January 2014, 07:52
Sorry, I meant this link:http://levandemusikarv.se/tonsattare/dente-joseph/SMH-W648-Symfoni_d-moll_komponerad_for_stor_orkester  (http://levandemusikarv.se/tonsattare/dente-joseph/SMH-W648-Symfoni_d-moll_komponerad_for_stor_orkester). The other one was a brief biography of Dente. From this last link you can also download the score.
Title: Re: Joseph Dente 1838-1905 Symphony on P2 Sveriges Radio
Post by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 07 October 2015, 17:18
QuoteMaybe a movement is missing?

No - its 24 minutes encompass all four movements.
Title: Re: Joseph Dente 1838-1905 Symphony on P2 Sveriges Radio
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 12 October 2015, 11:19
I had certainly underestimated this concise, but powerful and athletic symphony when I first heard it. Now that I've listened to it again, I find a lot to admire, especially its sheer dynamism and imaginative orchestration - think, for example, of the wonderful opening to the symphony down in the depths of the orchestra, with bassoons intoning dolefully. Gorgeous woodwind writing in the slow (3rd) movement too. The idiom, I suppose, is Mendelssohn/Schumann plus, with emphasis on the plus - although here this means expansion of expressive means rather than extension of duration.

An obvious candidate for a label such as Sterling, I would have thought. There's apparently a violin concerto too - wonder where it is....? Eric, help!!
Title: Re: Joseph Dente 1838-1905 Symphony on P2 Sveriges Radio
Post by: eschiss1 on Tuesday 13 October 2015, 03:56
No idea offhand, but will keep looking...
Title: Re: Joseph Dente 1838-1905 Symphony on P2 Sveriges Radio
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 13 October 2015, 07:46
Thanks!
Title: Re: Joseph Dente 1838-1905 Symphony on P2 Sveriges Radio
Post by: dschfan on Tuesday 13 October 2015, 19:05
Found this on Youtube. Just finished recording it.
Title: Re: Joseph Dente 1838-1905 Symphony on P2 Sveriges Radio
Post by: eschiss1 on Tuesday 13 October 2015, 22:04
the recording on YouTube is, I'm guessing, the same as the one we already have in our "Downloads" section? Maybe, maybe not...
Title: Re: Joseph Dente 1838-1905 Symphony on P2 Sveriges Radio
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 13 October 2015, 23:21
Undoubtedly.
Title: Re: Joseph Dente 1838-1905 Symphony on P2 Sveriges Radio
Post by: jimmosk on Friday 06 November 2015, 02:31
Dente was also Stenhammar's composition teacher (source: http://stenhammarcompetition.se/wsimc/wilhelm-stenhammar/ (http://stenhammarcompetition.se/wsimc/wilhelm-stenhammar/)), and I can definitely hear in the slow movement what I would have said were "Stenhammarisms"... but now I'll call them "Dentesms"!