Unsung Composers

The Music => Composers & Music => Topic started by: Alan Howe on Friday 28 March 2014, 18:14

Title: The ultimate over-the-top PC?
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 28 March 2014, 18:14
...may be that in B minor (1918/24) by the Romanian Paul Richter (1875-1950):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJXUeDPeh4Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJXUeDPeh4Q)
Maybe less is more after all. It's like a hippo wallowing in chocolate...
Title: Re: The ultimate over-the-top PC?
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 28 March 2014, 22:15
we (used to?) have not only that but some of his symphonies in the uploads/downloads section, I believe, I would guess it might be the same recording?... anyhow, yes, good and interesting composer and thanks :)
Title: Re: The ultimate over-the-top PC?
Post by: TerraEpon on Saturday 29 March 2014, 05:50
Well I like it....I'd certainly buy a CD with that piece.
Title: Re: The ultimate over-the-top PC?
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 29 March 2014, 08:07
I like it too. It's just very full-on.
Title: Re: The ultimate over-the-top PC?
Post by: mikehopf on Saturday 29 March 2014, 22:49
Try the Djabadary Piano Concerto for sheer bombast!
Title: Re: The ultimate over-the-top PC?
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 10 July 2015, 22:27
It must have been the right day for a wallow today. Richter's PC is incredible - can't imagine why it hasn't been done in, say, Hyperion's RPC series.
Title: Re: The ultimate over-the-top PC?
Post by: Mykulh on Saturday 11 July 2015, 04:11
Here is why this forum is so important to me. The mention of the Paul Richter Piano Concerto sparked my curiosity and I wondered if that download derived from a commercial recording that I had missed in my discography research. Sure enough, there it was on an LP. Here is the data:

PAUL RICHTER

Piano Concerto in B minor, Op.58 (1918-20)

Adrian Stoica (piano)/Ilarion Ionescu-Galati/"Moldova" Philharmonic Orchestra, Iasi
(+ Variations for Piano and Orchestra)
ELECTRECORD – ST-ECE 03788 (LP) (1990) 

So, thanks Alan and company.

Mike


Title: Re: The ultimate over-the-top PC?
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 11 July 2015, 09:19
You're welcome, Mike. Your discographies are a great resource. Here's a link to the LP:
http://www.discogs.com/Paul-Richter-2-Soloist-Adrian-Stoica-Iasi-Moldova-Philharmonic-Orchestra-Conductor-IIonescu-Gala%C8%9Bi-/release/5808323
(http://www.discogs.com/Paul-Richter-2-Soloist-Adrian-Stoica-Iasi-Moldova-Philharmonic-Orchestra-Conductor-IIonescu-Gala%C8%9Bi-/release/5808323)
Title: Re: The ultimate over-the-top PC?
Post by: adriano on Saturday 11 July 2015, 12:41
There is a (questionable) website on this very theme :-)
http://www.enkivillage.com/best-piano-concertos.html (http://www.enkivillage.com/best-piano-concertos.html)
Title: Re: The ultimate over-the-top PC?
Post by: FBerwald on Saturday 11 July 2015, 16:59
 Paul Richter doesn't seem to have a wiki page. Do we have a possible list of works?
Title: Re: The ultimate over-the-top PC?
Post by: Amphissa on Saturday 11 July 2015, 18:13
As an LP lover, I've seen the Richter PC on Ebay a few times, but the condition has always looked questionable. I keep hoping I'll run across someone who is abandoning their vinyl collection and has a copy in mint condition needing a new home.

On that same LP is also Richter's Variations for Piano and Orchestra.
Title: Re: The ultimate over-the-top PC?
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 12 July 2015, 00:35
FBerwald: I -think- I saw a book about Paul Wilhelm Richter listed @ Worldcat (one wants to distinguish him from e.g. Jean Paul Richter of an earlier time ;) ) - that book may have such a list, will see if I can get ahold of it.

But if by Wikipedia you mean Wikipedia in general, not English-Wikipedia, there's certainly this (https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Richter) which I think you missed, and no rules at all against translating it (well and with credit!) to a new article on the English Wikipedia- there are many examples of this being done to jump-start new articles between Wikis.
Title: Re: The ultimate over-the-top PC?
Post by: jerfilm on Sunday 12 July 2015, 00:57
Both the concerto and the variations are available for a listen on YouTube.

J
Title: Re: The ultimate over-the-top PC?
Post by: sdtom on Sunday 12 July 2015, 02:32
the burning question in my mind Alan is this: What is the difference between a hippo wallowing in mud instead of chocolate?
Tom
Title: Re: The ultimate over-the-top PC?
Post by: Simon on Sunday 12 July 2015, 05:11
Here is a bio (German only), and a description of three works :

http://www.suedost-musik.de/html/lexikon/Richter.html (http://www.suedost-musik.de/html/lexikon/Richter.html)
Title: Re: The ultimate over-the-top PC?
Post by: Amphissa on Sunday 12 July 2015, 10:33
QuoteBoth the concerto and the variations are available for a listen on YouTube.

Yes, as well as 3 of his symphonies and several other works.

Title: Re: The ultimate over-the-top PC?
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 12 July 2015, 13:11
They reveal quite a variety of styles, I find.
Title: Re: The ultimate over-the-top PC?
Post by: JimL on Monday 13 July 2015, 07:33
Does anybody have the movements for the Richter PC?
Title: Re: The ultimate over-the-top PC?
Post by: eschiss1 on Monday 13 July 2015, 11:40
Hrm. Check with MusikNoten-Verlag Latzina of Karlsruhe which published the Richter in 2006? (Unfortunately their homepage (http://musiknotenverlag.de) has been stupidly done up by some solipsist who thinks that links to their own personal hard drive will work on the internet.  Joy.)

I do see from D-NB that it had to be reconstructed in 1973 by Hans-Peter Turk- it's not one of Richter's scores that was published during his lifetime, for instance (unlike his 3rd symphony whose 1929-published score I interloaned from Queens College, New York, awhile back.)
Title: Re: The ultimate over-the-top PC?
Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 15 July 2015, 13:20
Ah, here's the book on Richter I thought I saw...

Paul Richter: Monographie (http://www.worldcat.org/title/paul-richter-monographie/oclc/2375271).
Title: Re: The ultimate over-the-top PC?
Post by: musiclover on Friday 17 July 2015, 04:47
How about the Malizcewski Concerto? You used to be able to hear an off air performance on YouTube but alas it's been taken down. An exciting work, but well over-the-top in my opinion. Worth recording. I wonder why nobody has.
Title: Re: The ultimate over-the-top PC?
Post by: vicharris on Friday 17 July 2015, 12:43
I like all of those mentioned above, but find Adolf Henselt's still at the top of my list as the one of the most satisfying listening experiences I have ever had. Especially a movement in the middle--can't remember if there are 3 or 4 total--that utilizes the rich deep dark notes in the left hand part.