Unsung Composers

The Music => Composers & Music => Topic started by: Glazier on Wednesday 09 June 2010, 03:36

Title: Catoire 1861-1926
Post by: Glazier on Wednesday 09 June 2010, 03:36
Any recommendations or opinions about this composer?
Title: Re: Catoire 1861-1926
Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 09 June 2010, 03:46
Heard a few works from a recent Hyperion CD (performed by Room Music) broadcast on BBC Radio 3 a year ago or so. Enjoyable and well-crafted I seem to remember?
Title: Re: Catoire 1861-1926
Post by: wunderkind on Wednesday 09 June 2010, 18:40
Wonderful composer.  I've heard and returned many times to the following discs:

Piano Trio in F Minor (coupled with the Goldenweiser Piano Trio) - on Revelation label in an excellent performance by Goldenweiser, Kogan and Rostropovich.  Powerful Russian-inflected chamber music.

Violin Sonatas 1&2, Elegy, Romance - on CPO label (Breuninger, Zassimova) - tuneful, lyrical and unique.
Title: Re: Catoire 1861-1926
Post by: John Hudock on Wednesday 09 June 2010, 21:16
He has some quite lovely piano music recorded by Marc-Andre Hamelin.
Title: Re: Catoire 1861-1926
Post by: Kriton on Wednesday 09 June 2010, 22:38
I return to his chamber music every now an again. As already mentioned - well crafted and pleasurable, but in my opinion not one of the great unsungs. But who knows? Russians are strange, perhaps I have to let the music grow on me a bit more, as if it were Medtner...
Title: Re: Catoire 1861-1926
Post by: giles.enders on Monday 21 June 2010, 12:03
I have been trying to get a record company, any record company to record his piano concerto.  It is the last substantial unrecorded Russian one from that period.  I am aware of a renowned pianist on the international circuit who would like to do it.

Giles Enders
Title: Re: Catoire 1861-1926
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Monday 21 June 2010, 13:41
Hear, hear! Catoire's PC is a fine work that deserves a good performance.
Title: Re: Catoire 1861-1926
Post by: Christopher on Thursday 24 June 2010, 09:27
I had heard that Hyperion was planning to release it, and actually wrote to them to ask for more information (January 2007) - they replied as follows: 
"That Catoire concerto has not been recorded by us (or anyone else) which is why you cannot find it. Marc-André Hamelin was considering it but, in the end, did not feel it was strong enough. We may yet do it with another pianist but nothing has been decided yet, because we already have the next couple of years planned out it wouldn't be for some time."

Maybe things have changed since then, as I also would love to hear this piece.
Title: Re: Catoire 1861-1926
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Thursday 24 June 2010, 10:07
Write again, Christopher. That's the thing to do.
Title: Re: Catoire 1861-1926
Post by: Christopher on Thursday 24 June 2010, 12:32
Did Catoire write any other symphonic or stage works?
Title: Re: Catoire 1861-1926
Post by: Empfindsamer on Thursday 24 June 2010, 13:28
There is a fascinating boxed set by Brilliant:
(http://www.jpc.de/image/w600/front/0/5028421930817.jpg)
containing Quintett op. 16, Piano quartet op. 31 and String quartet op. 23.
Sorry, I have no notices about symphonic works.
Title: Re: Catoire 1861-1926
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 24 June 2010, 13:30
This is the entry in Grove:

Orch: Sym., c, op.7, 1889;
        Mtsïri (after Lermontov), sym. poem, op.13, 1899;
        Pf Conc., op.21, 1909
Title: Re: Catoire 1861-1926
Post by: Christopher on Thursday 24 June 2010, 13:52
I live in Moscow.  I have found so many pieces here which I had previously been firmly told by generalist and specialist sellers in London had "never" been recorded.  Often they are on Melodiya LPs which I then transfer to CD.  Melodiya seems not to have a comprehensive catalogue of everything it ever recorded (probably not unconnected with the fact that in the Soviet times, certain artists would fall from grace and their recordings withdrawn from circulation).  "Unsung" composers, whose pieces I have found despite having been told there were no recordings, include Alexandr Serov, Sergei Taneyev, Dolidze, Paliashvili, Dikranian, Ter-Gevondian, Isaac Dunaevksy, Eugen Doga, Tikhon Khrennikov, Verstovsky, Nikolai Tcherepnin, Rebikov, Chukhajian, Mosolov, Napravnik, etc etc - but so far NOT, alas, Catoire...