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The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: MartinH on Sunday 06 October 2019, 01:10

Title: Ethel Smyth Mass
Post by: MartinH on Sunday 06 October 2019, 01:10
I've been enjoying the new Chandos recording of Ethel Smith's Mass this week. How did I go so long without knowing this music? The Wreckers overture is more familiar, and the BBC and Oramo play it marvelously. But what I am really puzzled by is the booklet.

The writer, Laura Turnbridge, writes that at age 19 she went to Leipzig to study. "Her classmates there included Edvard Grieg, Antonin Dvorak, and Pyotr Tchaikovsky." This just can't be right. Smith was born in 1858 so at 19 would have put her in Leipzig in 1877. Now Grieg was  born in 1843 and did go to Leipzig - at age 15, or in 1858. Almost twenty years earlier. Dvorak was born in 1841 and to the best of my knowledge completed all his music studies in Bohemia - at the Organ School. Tchaikovsky, born 1840, studied in Moscow - he conducted in Leipzig around 1877-78 but surely wasn't a student there. Am I missing something? Going bonkers? or is Miss Turnbridge getting bad information from somewhere?
Title: Re: Ethel Smyth Mass
Post by: Kevin on Sunday 06 October 2019, 07:41
I noticed that too. It's completely wrong of course what she says and one wonders why the editor didn't correct it before release. Maybe that happened in some parallel universe but in our reality I can assure it didn't happen. It's a bit shoddy if you ask me.

I do look forward to listening to the mass and I strangely never gotten around to the Wreckers which Beecham called one of the greatest English operas.
Title: Re: Ethel Smyth Mass
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Sunday 06 October 2019, 09:24
Chandos need to be made aware of this error. It is an egregious one.
Title: Re: Ethel Smyth Mass
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 06 October 2019, 22:15
So, who's going to tell them?

Alternatively, Ms Turnbridge can be contacted here: laura.tunbridge@music.ox.ac.uk



Title: Re: Ethel Smyth Mass
Post by: MartinH on Monday 07 October 2019, 05:20
What the heck, I'll send her an email. Let you know what happens!
Title: Re: Ethel Smyth Mass
Post by: MartinH on Monday 07 October 2019, 15:08
Got a very quick response:

Thanks for your message and for noticing that error. You're correct that Grieg, Dvorak and Tchaikovsky were not her class mates, but figures Smyth met in Leipzig while she was there.

I hope you're enjoying the disk nonetheless.

Laura
Title: Re: Ethel Smyth Mass
Post by: Kevin on Monday 07 October 2019, 15:34
I'm glad that's been sorted.
Title: Re: Ethel Smyth Mass
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 07 October 2019, 16:03
Now to inform Chandos of her reply: https://www.chandos.net/contactus (https://www.chandos.net/contactus)
Title: Re: Ethel Smyth Mass
Post by: MartinH on Monday 07 October 2019, 18:57
She already has and says if the booklet is reprinted the error corrected. Problem solved.
Title: Re: Ethel Smyth Mass
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 07 October 2019, 22:10
Good - as far as it goes. Ought not the booklet to be withdrawn forthwith and a corrected version offered to every purchaser of the CD at the earliest opportunity?
Title: Re: Ethel Smyth Mass
Post by: Mark Thomas on Monday 07 October 2019, 22:48
Ought it to be - of course. Will it be? Of course not - it would kill any profit Chandos might hope to make on the release. I guess they could offer a corrected downloadable pdf of the booklet.
Title: Re: Ethel Smyth Mass
Post by: MartinH on Tuesday 08 October 2019, 01:45
Of course, we're assuming readers of the booklet will be as astute as the people on this website. 99% of people won't even think twice about the statement.
Title: Re: Ethel Smyth Mass
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 08 October 2019, 07:47
...and there's the problem. That's how incorrect 'facts' spread, i.e. among those less astute than members of this forum. And once falsehoods are believed, there's no stopping them...
Title: Re: Ethel Smyth Mass
Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 09 October 2019, 02:55
Speaking of, is it Turnbridge or Tunbridge?
Title: Re: Ethel Smyth Mass
Post by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 09 October 2019, 09:21
Tunbridge:
https://www.music.ox.ac.uk/about/people/academic-staff/university-lecturers-and-college-fellows/laura-tunbridge/ (https://www.music.ox.ac.uk/about/people/academic-staff/university-lecturers-and-college-fellows/laura-tunbridge/)

Thanks, Eric. Didn't notice that error.
Title: Re: Ethel Smyth Mass
Post by: MartinH on Thursday 10 October 2019, 00:00
Yeah, sorry, that was my error. The small print in the Chandos booklet and my aging eyes!
Title: Re: Ethel Smyth Mass
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 10 October 2019, 07:40
Coupled with my inattention...