Unsung Composers

The Music => Composers & Music => Topic started by: monafam on Sunday 07 November 2010, 22:14

Title: If you Love...then you will Like....Unsung Question
Post by: monafam on Sunday 07 November 2010, 22:14
This place has been fantastic in opening up great music I may have missed otherwise.

I have noticed a few threads might state: If you like [sung composer] then you will like [unsung composer].   Would it be possible to do some of that in this thread?  Maybe it's more a matter of just the genre itself, but sometimes it is nice for a comparison.   (I hope this isn't an unfair thing to request as they are probably all great.)

A few to start with --

If you love Dvorak...then you will like ......

If you love Mahler [symphonic -- I've yet to build much of a taste for lieders]...then you will like...

If you love [ok, insert sung Romantic Russian composer here!]....then you will like....

:)
Title: Re: If you Like...then you will Love....Unsung Question
Post by: Mark Thomas on Sunday 07 November 2010, 22:38
Dvorak: try Fibich's three symphonies.
Mahler: Rott's Symphony is the obvious one to try.
Title: Re: If you Like...then you will Love....Unsung Question
Post by: Hovite on Sunday 07 November 2010, 23:34
(The difficulty here is deciding who counts as unsung. Anyway:)

Quote from: monafam on Sunday 07 November 2010, 22:14If you like Dvorak...then you will like ......

I would suggest Smetana (some of his orchestral works are unsung).

Quote from: monafam on Sunday 07 November 2010, 22:14If you like Mahler [symphonic -- I've yet to build much of a taste for lieders]...then you will like...

Yes to Rott (which sounds like early Mahler), and add the 17 symphonies of Pettersson (but they are grim, the sort of music that Mahler might have written if he lived longer and endured more horrors). 

Quote from: monafam on Sunday 07 November 2010, 22:14If you like [ok, insert sung Romantic Russian composer here!]....then you will like....

(Spoilt for choice) Kabelsvsky, Kalinnikov, Myaskovsky.
Title: Re: If you Like...then you will Love....Unsung Question
Post by: febnyc on Monday 08 November 2010, 01:07
If you love Rachmaninoff, you will enjoy the Piano Concerto of American composer Vittorio Giannini.
Title: Re: If you Like...then you will Love....Unsung Question
Post by: edurban on Monday 08 November 2010, 02:28
If you love Rachmaninoff, you will also love the piano concertos of York Bowen.

David
Title: Re: If you Like...then you will Love....Unsung Question
Post by: TerraEpon on Monday 08 November 2010, 06:49
Dvorak ----> Novak
Rachmaninoff ----> Mathieu
Rimsky-Korsakov ----> Gliere
Title: Re: If you Like...then you will Love....Unsung Question
Post by: Peter1953 on Monday 08 November 2010, 12:58
If you like Schumann's piano music, you will most certainly love Kirchner.
Title: Re: If you Like...then you will Love....Unsung Question
Post by: monafam on Tuesday 09 November 2010, 01:20
Thank you for the replies thusfar.  Some of the composer I am familiar with (thanks to this site), but I have more to check out it seems.

How about one of my favorite unsungs -- 

If you like Rubbra...then you will like...

I have his symphonies and it's one of my favorite sets to listen to!
Title: Re: If you Like...then you will Love....Unsung Question
Post by: eschiss1 on Tuesday 09 November 2010, 01:41
Quote from: monafam on Tuesday 09 November 2010, 01:20


If you like Rubbra...then you will like...

I have his symphonies and it's one of my favorite sets to listen to!
A favorite of mine also, though not always in the Romantic orbit (?) of this forum I guess. Depends on which of his works (or even which of his 11 symphonies and sinfonietta) is your favorite though!
Eric
Title: Re: If you Like...then you will Love....Unsung Question
Post by: monafam on Tuesday 09 November 2010, 01:50
Quote from: eschiss1 on Tuesday 09 November 2010, 01:41

A favorite of mine also, though not always in the Romantic orbit (?) of this forum I guess. Depends on which of his works (or even which of his 11 symphonies and sinfonietta) is your favorite though!
Eric

Well, I just listened to #s 1 through 3 at work today -- all fantastic!  I am a sucker for a big orchestral fugue, which he offers up in all three.   I do recall liking all of them, but I need to listen to the others to get a better feel.
Title: Re: If you Like...then you will Love....Unsung Question
Post by: Kevin Pearson on Tuesday 09 November 2010, 05:30
If you like Dvorak try Josef Suk! His orchestral music is fantastic!

Kevin
Title: Re: If you Like...then you will Love....Unsung Question
Post by: Jonathan on Tuesday 09 November 2010, 17:48
Quote from: Kevin Pearson on Tuesday 09 November 2010, 05:30
If you like Dvorak try Josef Suk! His orchestral music is fantastic!

Kevin

Agreed!
Title: Re: If you Like...then you will Love....Unsung Question
Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 10 November 2010, 05:23
Hrm. Very loosely speaking I guess but if you like Borodin and Tchaikovsky (not that close together true) you may like Aleksandr Kopylov and Nikolay Sokolov (recently a quartet by Sokolov has been recorded and uploaded to IMSLP by the way, here (http://imslp.org/wiki/String_Quartet_No.2,_Op.14_(Sokolov,_Nikolay)), along with the complete parts uploaded awhile back in the 1892 Belaieff edition. 

(I did, about a decade ago, create MIDI files of this same Sokolov quartet, but of course this performance sounds and is performed loads better.  I know of no human performances of any Kopylov string quartets, but there used to be an ASV recording of his symphony and other orchestral works, and briefer chamber works are on CD somewhere also I think since I recall? that he, like Sokolov, was one of Belaieff's circle and contributed to collaborative works for it like Les Vendredis, etc. Sokolov's other claim to fame(?), by the way, is as a counterpoint teacher to a Dimitri Shostakovich, and the dedicatee of an early work of the latter, but he's (Shostakovich... well, Sokolov too, that one mentions it - is) fairly obscure...)
Title: Re: If you Like...then you will Love....Unsung Question
Post by: thalbergmad on Wednesday 10 November 2010, 12:18
If you like Mozart, you will love Woelfl.
Title: Re: If you Like...then you will Love....Unsung Question
Post by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 10 November 2010, 12:29
If you like Schumann or Brahms, you'll just love Fuchs, Herzogenberg, Gernsheim, Dietrich, Eduard Franck, Jadassohn, Volkmann, Rheinberger, Bargiel, Bruch, Thieriot, Klughardt, Goetz, BrĂ¼ll...

With apologies for repeats!

Title: Re: If you Like...then you will Love....Unsung Question
Post by: John Hudock on Friday 12 November 2010, 14:45
Shouldn't it more properly be "If you love ..., then you will like ..."

Anyway...

Faure ---> Durufle (at least what little there is), Koechlin
Delius ---> Bax
Beethoven ---> Cherubini, Hummel, Spohr, Ries
Mozart ---> Gossec
Nielsen ---> Glass (Louis, not Philip)
Sibelius ---> Stenhammar
Shostakovich ---> Tcherepnin
Khatchaturian ---> Matchavariani
Title: Re: If you Love...then you will Like....Unsung Question
Post by: monafam on Friday 12 November 2010, 20:49
Updated it to read "love...like"   ;D

Excellent suggestions so far!
Title: Re: If you Love...then you will Like....Unsung Question
Post by: edurban on Sunday 14 November 2010, 00:23
If you love the Mendelssohn & Schumann piano concertos, you'll like the first two Reinecke piano concertos. I can't understand at all why noone plays R 1.   Terrific piece, maybe the most completely satisfying piece by R I know. 

David
Title: Re: If you Love...then you will Like....Unsung Question
Post by: JimL on Sunday 14 November 2010, 05:50
I'd toss in the 3rd Reinecke as well, David.  In fact, in many respects it's a finer work than the first two, and its finale is certainly superior to theirs.
Title: Re: If you Love...then you will Like....Unsung Question
Post by: Jonathan on Sunday 14 November 2010, 14:54
Ok, thanks for reminding me about these concerti, that's more added to the "to listen to" pile this coming week!
Title: Re: If you Love...then you will Like....Unsung Question
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 14 November 2010, 15:25
The Reinecke concertos and concertante works (including and not limited to the piano concertos) probably could use their own thread (he says, so... hrm... why don't I just go and create one... soon.) - I like all 4 of the piano concertos (both performances of the first two that I've heard, I know that one of them has been recorded as least three times.), trying to remember which of the others I've heard offhand though I have seen the flute concerto in reduction e.g.  The compactness of the 4th piano concerto started by making me wonder, though (or of course).  Not in itself a bad thing.
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