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Title: Pancho Vladigerov (1899-1978) - Complete Piano Concertos
Post by: pianoconcerto on Tuesday 07 July 2020, 15:45
Capriccio will soon reissue the old Balkanton recordings of Vladigerov's piano concertos 1-5.  Concertos 2 and 5 have never been out on CD, so this is great news.  AmazonUK gives a release date of 4 Sept. 2020 for this 2CD set, the cover of which can now be seen on soundcloud, where you can also hear the third movement of Concerto 3.
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov (1899-1978) - Complete Piano Concertos
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 07 July 2020, 15:58
Just putting this thread on hold while we check its suitability for discussion here.
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov (1899-1978) - Complete Piano Concertos
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 07 July 2020, 19:06
We've decided that PCs 1-3 are suitable for discussion here, but not PCs 4 or 5, hence the amended thread title.

Please note:

1. Please restrict yourselves to discussion of PCs 1-3 in this thread. Other works by the composer will be assessed for suitability on a case by case basis - see note 2, below.

2. Please would all instances of works composed post-1918 be submitted to the moderators for their consideration before posting, as per UC's guidelines.
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov (1899-1978) - Complete Piano Concertos
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Tuesday 07 July 2020, 21:33
I think you are quite right, Alan. I was going to say that I am familiar with these concertos (and enjoy them) but that, while 1, 2 & 3 would just about squeeze into our remit, I doubted whether 4 and 5 were appropriate. They are very colourful works, nicely orchestrated and with plenty of virtuoso fireworks for the pianist.
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov (1899-1978) - Complete Piano Concertos
Post by: jonah on Tuesday 07 July 2020, 22:47
Last year, the Piano Concertos, or at least some of them, were listed in Toccata Classics Pipeline as forthcoming, but the listing has now gone, so presumably new recordings are not now likely, at least not from Toccata - pity.
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov (1899-1978) - Complete Piano Concertos
Post by: TerraEpon on Wednesday 08 July 2020, 01:34
Hmmm I have #3 on a disc on the ''Gaga New' label that's simply called 'Compositions' and remember it being a pretty good though pretty typical late romantic concerto. Might be interesting to hear the other.
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov (1899-1978) - Complete Piano Concertos
Post by: M. Yaskovsky on Wednesday 08 July 2020, 11:27
Could you please provide a link to the recording on Amazon?
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov (1899-1978) - Complete Piano Concertos
Post by: Mark Thomas on Wednesday 08 July 2020, 12:24
Try going to amazon.co.uk and searching for "vladigerov piano concertos".
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov (1899-1978) - Complete Piano Concertos
Post by: Wheesht on Wednesday 08 July 2020, 16:00
Reading the name Vladigerov has inspired me to listen the recording I have had for many years: "The Great Bulgarian Piano Concertos" on Gega GD 107. This contains Vladigerov's no. 3 (coupled with the first piano concerto by Vesselin Stoyanov from 1941), played by Boris Nedeltchev and the Bulgarian Radio Symphony Orchestra conducted by Vassil Kazandjiev, recorded in 1991 and probably no longer available as a CD, but still listed for borrowing (I have never tried this site) on Muziekweb (https://www.muziekweb.nl/en/Link/BAX1091/The-great-Bulgarian-piano-concertos). Both recordings are also on YT.
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov (1899-1978) - Complete Piano Concertos
Post by: Mark Thomas on Wednesday 08 July 2020, 18:07
I have that CD and have always preferred Stoyanov's concerto to Vladigerov's. It's as UC-friendly, has a lovely slow movement (not that Vladigerov is any slouch in that department either) and is rather less bombastic and more reflective than the Vladigerov, at least to my ears. I see that Stoyanov's other two piano concertos are also available on YouTube.
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov (1899-1978) - Complete Piano Concertos
Post by: adriano on Friday 18 September 2020, 23:32
At last - and highly recommendable!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vladigerov-Concertos-Bulgarian-Orchestra-Alexander/dp/B089CQ8H1R/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=vladigerov&qid=1600468308&s=music&sr=1-1
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov (1899-1978) - Complete Piano Concertos
Post by: Martin Eastick on Friday 18 September 2020, 23:59
It is most interesting and exciting to see in the introduction on Capriccio's website - and also repeated elsewhere, including Amazon, that this would seem to be the beginning of an 18 disc Vladigerov edition, so hopefully further instalments will feature the other orchestral/vocal etc. music which was originally included in the 3 box sets of LP's. I'm sure some of us may have these but it would be great to have these recordings available again as they were not at all easy to obtain when released, and some of the pressings were dubious at best! I am certainly looking forward to the symphonies!
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov (1899-1978) - Complete Piano Concertos
Post by: adriano on Saturday 19 September 2020, 00:08
So am I, Martin. The Concertos are all conducted by the composer's son.
Vladigerov was actually born in Zurich :-)
Fritz Brun conducted Vladigerov's symphonic poem "Vardar" in Berne on 28th January 1930.

I haven't listened yet to the Naxos CD with orchestral works (including "Vardar")
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/pancho-vladigerov-orchesterwerke/hnum/9497944
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov (1899-1978) - Complete Piano Concertos
Post by: Gerhard Griesel on Thursday 15 October 2020, 11:52
I found the following anecdote on YouTube regarding Pancho Vladigerov's Piano Concerto No.1, which I partially rewrite here for the benefit of those of you who may not have seen it. I can't vouch for the truth or otherwise:

Apparently Herbert von Karajan performed this work as the pianist in the Mozarteum for his master degree performance examination. He damaged a tendon in the process. This happened because halfway through the piece he glanced toward the audience, and much to his surprise, saw his mother sitting in the front row! Much to the audience's amazement he tried to play both the right and left hand parts with just his left hand to enable him to give mum a nice long wave. She smiled ever-so-proudly back at her son, seemingly oblivious to the crescendo of boos reverberating around the concert hall.
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov (1899-1978) - Complete Piano Concertos
Post by: adriano on Thursday 15 October 2020, 12:18
Yes Gerhard
And in Richard Osborne's Karajan biography it is also mentioned that HvK hat met Vladigerov in 1925, at he occasion Bernhard Paumgartner and Vladigerov were editing Humperdinck's pantomime score "Das Mirakel" for a Salzburg performance. Apparently, Valdigerov was "one of the most talented of (Max) Reinhardt's many camp-followers". And, apparently, HvK needed 14 days to learn that "punishingly difficult" Piano Concerto by Vladigerov - which thus became his "pianistic Waterloo".
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov (1899-1978) - Complete Piano Concertos
Post by: C R Lim on Friday 16 October 2020, 18:13
These Piano Concerto recordings are definitely the ones which were released in a box of 7 Lps by Balkanton. I have long waited for their re-issue on CD. Does anyone know if Capriccio has plans to release the other recordings on CD? They were part of an integral cycle of 7 box sets issued after Vladigerov's death in 1978.
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov (1899-1978) - Complete Piano Concertos
Post by: Mark Thomas on Friday 16 October 2020, 18:47

See this short thread (http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php/topic,7969.msg83526.html#msg83526).
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov (1899-1978) - Complete Piano Concertos
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 29 August 2021, 09:43
Vladigerov PC1 = Rachmaninov re-composed by Prokofiev. Discuss...
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov (1899-1978) - Complete Piano Concertos
Post by: Mark Thomas on Sunday 29 August 2021, 12:45
Not much to discuss as you're pretty much spot on, but I would add that it's Prokoviev with the volume turned up to eleven. Almost everything I've heard by Vladigerov seems to occupy the range forte>fortissimo - except some of the rather lovely orchestral songs, that is.
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov (1899-1978) - Complete Piano Concertos
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 29 August 2021, 13:44
Rachmaninov re-composed by Khachaturian, then, perhaps?
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov (1899-1978) - Complete Piano Concertos
Post by: Mark Thomas on Sunday 29 August 2021, 14:52
Oh no, there's more interest in his music than Khachaturian normally manages to invest his with - what an empty windbag he is, except in a few instances such as the ballets. Whenever he attempts "serious" music it's just huff and puff. IMHO, of course.
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov (1899-1978) - Complete Piano Concertos
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 29 August 2021, 15:16
Even Aram's chamber music?...
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov (1899-1978) - Complete Piano Concertos
Post by: Mark Thomas on Sunday 29 August 2021, 19:01
You have me there, Eric. I don't know his chamber music at all, I was thinking of his orchestral works.
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov (1899-1978) - Complete Piano Concertos
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 29 August 2021, 19:58
And I was thinking of something like AK's Symphony No.3 for volume set at 11:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--P9sTGqUHw