Unsung Composers

The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: Alan Howe on Friday 10 July 2020, 09:56

Title: Schreker Complete Orchestral Works vol.1
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 10 July 2020, 09:56
...forthcoming from cpo:
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/cpo/detail/-/art/franz-schreker-saemtliche-orchesterwerke-vol-1/hnum/3552125 (https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/cpo/detail/-/art/franz-schreker-saemtliche-orchesterwerke-vol-1/hnum/3552125)
Title: Re: Schreker Complete Orchestral Works vol.1
Post by: Kevin on Friday 10 July 2020, 10:43
Very cool. This is off topic I know but you seem to be the CPO go-to man Alan, is their any word on vol 2 of Goldmark's symphonic poems?

Can we perhaps get a sticky on all future releases? or something like that...difficult to track everything. Soooo much is released nowadays, one might miss something. Could be helpful to members.
Title: Re: Schreker Complete Orchestral Works vol.1
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 10 July 2020, 11:35
I simply keep track of what's announced at jpc.de. I have no inside information, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Schreker Complete Orchestral Works vol.1
Post by: Mark Thomas on Friday 10 July 2020, 13:06
So there's a Schreker symphony - I had no idea. It's an early work (1899) and the finale is lost apparently.
Title: Re: Schreker Complete Orchestral Works vol.1
Post by: Ilja on Friday 10 July 2020, 13:42
It was recorded on Capriccio by the Cologne Radio Orchestra under Peter Gülke. That's a very good recording, so this one has something to live up to.
Title: Re: Schreker Complete Orchestral Works vol.1
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 10 July 2020, 17:28
The Capriccio recording of the Symphony can be heard here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGggPhVtMFQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGggPhVtMFQ)

...and downloaded here:
https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/7960982--schreker-symphony-in-a-minor-op-1-etc (https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/7960982--schreker-symphony-in-a-minor-op-1-etc)
Title: Re: Schreker Complete Orchestral Works vol.1
Post by: dhibbard on Saturday 11 July 2020, 03:43
Ahh yes  you seem to be the CPO go-to man !!!!  Ha
Title: Re: Schreker Complete Orchestral Works vol.1
Post by: Mark Thomas on Saturday 11 July 2020, 07:21
I think Alan's already made clear that he isn't.
Title: Re: Schreker Complete Orchestral Works vol.1
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 11 July 2020, 08:25
QuoteAhh yes  you seem to be the CPO go-to man !!!!  Ha

Can't see what's funny. Anyone can search the forthcoming releases (Vorschau) at jpc.de ...
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/preview (https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/preview)
Title: Re: Schreker Complete Orchestral Works vol.1
Post by: Kevin on Saturday 11 July 2020, 08:48
I don't speak a word of german so Vorschau means zilch to me. Google translate or the websites own translation is often quite poor and of no use to me. Their websites not the best.
Title: Re: Schreker Complete Orchestral Works vol.1
Post by: Sharkkb8 on Saturday 11 July 2020, 09:04
Quote from: Kevin on Saturday 11 July 2020, 08:48
I don't speak a word of german so Vorschau means zilch to me.

I don't speak German either.  But I do manage to click the "switch to English" link, at the top of the page. 
Title: Re: Schreker Complete Orchestral Works vol.1
Post by: Kevin on Saturday 11 July 2020, 09:08
Quoteswitch to English

I find it garbled at times and not worth my time in frustration. That's why I'm grateful that Alan and other members take to the time to post new releases, because I would be very lost and confused otherwise.
Title: Re: Schreker Complete Orchestral Works vol.1
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Saturday 11 July 2020, 09:10
Don't understand what you mean by "garbled". I've  never had any problem with it. But if anyone does have difficulties with a site I do agree that it is nice when Alan and others on this forum alert us to new releases which we might otherwise miss.
And I have no idea what dhibbard means by his post, except that I suspect it is meant to be offensive.
Title: Re: Schreker Complete Orchestral Works vol.1
Post by: Sharkkb8 on Saturday 11 July 2020, 09:19
Quote from: Kevin on Saturday 11 July 2020, 09:08
Quoteswitch to English
not worth my time in frustration.

Ah.  So, if it's not worth *your* time, surely it's not worth ours.
Title: Re: Schreker Complete Orchestral Works vol.1
Post by: Kevin on Saturday 11 July 2020, 09:20
I'm sure dhibbard was making a light hearted joke(I think) Their's no need for people to take everything seriously all the time.
Title: Re: Schreker Complete Orchestral Works vol.1
Post by: Kevin on Saturday 11 July 2020, 09:23
QuoteAh.  So, if it's not worth *your* time, surely it's not worth ours.

Maybe for me it's combination of poor eyesight, bad translation, and being dumb is the reason I find it frustrating.
Title: Re: Schreker Complete Orchestral Works vol.1
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 11 July 2020, 11:02
Just click on 'Vorschau'! How hard can it be?

And with that, back to the Schreker release.
Title: Re: Schreker Complete Orchestral Works vol.1
Post by: brendangcarroll on Saturday 11 July 2020, 12:48
Thank you Alan for this splendid news. A new Schreker series is very welcome indeed.
Title: Re: Schreker Complete Orchestral Works vol.1
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 11 July 2020, 14:39
Indeed it is.
Title: Re: Schreker Complete Orchestral Works vol.1
Post by: adriano on Wednesday 26 August 2020, 21:21
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/cpo/detail/-/art/franz-schreker-saemtliche-orchesterwerke-vol-1/hnum/3552125

The CD comes up with some rarities.
The very elaborate liner notes are by Eckhardt van den Hoogen - who also adds an introductory "personal note", making up 2 of 9 pages of a microscopically set text.
(I shouldn't criticise, since some of my Fritz Brun notes are also quite long - but this is the case of a totally unknown composer, not a quite well-known one like Schreker - on which already many books and tons of essays have been written).

Incidentally, it took 6 years for this cpo CD to be issued!
Title: Re: Schreker Complete Orchestral Works vol.1
Post by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 26 August 2020, 22:11
Hi Adriano: you'll see that I've merged your post with the existing thread on this subject.

I have the new CD. It's not all that special, in my view - especially that dreary torso of a symphony. The orchestra's OK, but you really need a top-notch band to do this music justice.
Title: Re: Schreker Complete Orchestral Works vol.1
Post by: adriano on Thursday 27 August 2020, 06:53
Thanks, Alan, sorry I did not find this older thread at first :)
I am quite disappointed by this rather uninspired CD too.
The performances are well done, but everything has no real athmosphere... In the "Birthday of the Infanta" Suite I miss the necessary Jugendstil, magic and transparence. It all sounds rather rough and in various places the sound balance of some instrumental groups sounds very odd...
Title: Re: Schreker Complete Orchestral Works vol.1
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 27 August 2020, 13:05
I don't think the Sloane/Bochum combination is up to the job. A rather uninspiring release.
Title: Re: Schreker Complete Orchestral Works vol.1
Post by: der79sebas on Thursday 27 August 2020, 17:50
I am also rather disappointed by the CD. Technically, everything sounds ok, but there is a COMPLETE lack of atmosphere. E.g. the great "Festwalzer" does not at all sound like (the ironic version of) an opulent Viennese waltz, but more like a quite reserved English waltz.