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The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: Alan Howe on Saturday 12 September 2020, 19:28

Title: J-P Lemoyne - Phèdre: on the cusp...
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 12 September 2020, 19:28
...of romanticism:
https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8767654--jean-baptiste-lemoyne-phedre (https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8767654--jean-baptiste-lemoyne-phedre)

<<Completed in 1786, it is an example of an opera originating from the transitional phase towards the end of the Classical era, with the quickly growing shoots of Romanticism showing through strongly.>>
http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2020/Aug/Lemoyne-Phedre-BZ1040.htm (http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2020/Aug/Lemoyne-Phedre-BZ1040.htm)

This is about as far back in time as UC can go (1786) - but this wonderful opera is surely on the cusp of our chosen era. Pre-echoes, anyone?
Title: Re: J-P Lemoyne - Phèdre: on the cusp...
Post by: kolaboy on Saturday 12 September 2020, 21:17
I was going to post about this but feared it was outside the boundaries. Truly a beautiful work, and amazing it went neglected for so long. Hopefully his Électre will be resurrected in the future, as well...
Title: Re: J-P Lemoyne - Phèdre: on the cusp...
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 12 September 2020, 23:07
The point is, I think, that it straddles the boundary between classicism and early romanticism. That's what makes it exceptionally interesting.
Title: Re: J-P Lemoyne - Phèdre: on the cusp...
Post by: kolaboy on Saturday 12 September 2020, 23:58
The point - for me - is that it's an interesting (and beautiful) interlude between Gluck, and Spontini.
Title: Re: J-P Lemoyne - Phèdre: on the cusp...
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 13 September 2020, 12:18
Spot-on!
Title: Re: J-P Lemoyne - Phèdre: on the cusp...
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 18 September 2020, 22:44
My copy's now arrived.

It's a really exciting work in a style that's both of its time and forward-looking. So my question (as an utter ignoramus concerning this corner of the operatic repertoire) is this: What are the historical steps that take us from Lemoyne/Phèdre all the way to Berlioz/Les Troyens? Gossec? Cherubini? Méhul? Spontini? Auber? Meyerbeer?

Help.......!
Title: Re: J-P Lemoyne - Phèdre: on the cusp...
Post by: kolaboy on Saturday 19 September 2020, 07:43
Well I'm far from an expert, but for me the path from Lemoyne to Berlioz isn't quite a linear one; it could almost be looked at as a hopscotching among some of the names you've mentioned. Lemoyne was a disciple of Gluck, and I personally can see a thread from Lemoyne that touches both Mehul and Spontini and proceeds directly to Berlioz. An argument could be made to include Cherubini in there (somewhere) as well. Not being very familiar with Meyerbeer (apart from the fact that he owed a bit to Spontini, and told Chopin that he played out of time) I wouldn't know quite where to place him, if at all, in the mix. And the waters are further muddied by the fact that it was Électre (which preceded Phedre) that was considered at the time to be the innovative work (rudimentary leitmotif).  I'd love to know why Bru Zane chose to record Phedre over Électre...
My devalued two-cents worth.
Title: Re: J-P Lemoyne - Phèdre: on the cusp...
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 19 September 2020, 09:54
No, that's very helpful. Thanks.
Title: Re: J-P Lemoyne - Phèdre: on the cusp...
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 12 October 2020, 11:43
This has been one of the most exciting operatic discoveries of recent years. The sheer power of Lemoyne's writing, especially for brass, has held me in its grip throughout. I never thought I'd like this corner of the repertoire. How wrong I was! A truly inspiring work and a stupendous performance and recording.