Unsung Composers

The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: jasthill on Thursday 23 September 2021, 03:25

Title: Landscape redux - Hanson, Loeffler etc.
Post by: jasthill on Thursday 23 September 2021, 03:25
Browsing backwards through the Presto future releases I found this interesting future release.  https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/9247209--americascapes. Realizing Loeffler and Hanson might on the edges of the remit of this group and Cowell and Ruggles well beyond it leads me to ponder <here insert sarcasm> a release of unsung (obscure) Americana on a Danish record label recorded by a Basque orchestra lead by a American - might we expect a reciprocal release of the Isasi tone poems recorded by an American orchestra on a German label lead by a Basque? <sarcasm end>.  Ah! the mysteries of record labels and their repertory selections.
Title: Re: Landscape redux - Hanson, Loeffler etc.
Post by: Mark Thomas on Thursday 23 September 2021, 07:36
:) The mystery is often solved by discovering that a third party sponsored the release and so got to choose the repertoire.
Title: Re: Landscape redux - Hanson, Loeffler etc.
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Thursday 23 September 2021, 10:13
Exactly so.
Title: Re: Landscape redux - Hanson, Loeffler etc.
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 23 September 2021, 10:40
I think the answer is less arcane.

Robert Trevino is an American - hence the repertoire; he is currently music director of the Basque National Orchestra in Spain - hence the orchestra; and Trevino is signed to Ondine (they're Finnish, by the way) - hence the label.

Nothing unsusual about this at all. Typical of the modern recording landscape, I'd say.
Title: Re: Landscape redux - Hanson, Loeffler etc.
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Thursday 23 September 2021, 11:55
You're explanation makes perfect sense, Alan.
Title: Re: Landscape redux - Hanson, Loeffler etc.
Post by: jasthill on Thursday 23 September 2021, 12:37
For the record let me state that I am delighted that Ondine has chose to release this disc - I know I will thoroughly enjoy it.  Ondine, as well as Chandos, Naxos, CPO, and Capriccio as examples seem to be willing to explore more of the unsung than some of the other labels.  Perhaps instead of injecting sarcasm into the post I should have used irony or amusement, and I confused the Ondine of myth with the little mermaid in Copenhagen harbor hence the Danish association. Always excited to see adventurous programming whatever the source rather than yet another reiteration of one of the warhorses in what critics will call a uniquely nuanced and distinctly articulated reading. Plenty of unsungs awaiting exposure like this.
Title: Re: Landscape redux - Hanson, Loeffler etc.
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 23 September 2021, 15:15
Oh, it's an attractive release. I was just surprised at your surprise!
Title: Re: Landscape redux - Hanson, Loeffler etc.
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 24 September 2021, 03:28
The only recordings I've seen so far of Isasi's music were on Naxos, and the Isasi Quartet which performed them didn't consist solely of people from the same country as the composer, -- and it occurs to me this happens often already (I remember a review of a cpo recording where it was pointed out that where the repertoire on the CD was maybe once mainly the domain of Swedish orchestras, labels, conductors, etc., more and more recordings of that composer's music were on a variety of labels with a variety of orchestras, conductors, etc. and especially as that particular composer wasn't a "Nationalist" (?) one anyway, there was something to be said for that ;) )
Title: Re: Landscape redux - Hanson, Loeffler etc.
Post by: jasthill on Friday 24 September 2021, 16:26
Actually a recording of the Isasi tones poems is available (download services now - CD's wherever) as Vol. IV of the Basque Music Collection presented by Claves Records featuring the Basque Symphony Orchestra (Orquesta Sinfonia De Euskadi).  The series of 15 CD's cover a wide range of Basque composers from classical era to modern - I'd say most of them unsung but quite interesting music.  So now we can add the Swiss to the multi-national consortium of orchestras and labels crossing nationalistic boundaries.
Title: Re: Landscape redux - Hanson, Loeffler etc.
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 01 January 2022, 20:27
Although half of this new CD is beyond the scope of the forum, half isn't - so I'd like to recommend it in particular for the spectacular performance of Howard Hanson's hyper-romantic 'Before the Dawn' (1920):
https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/9247209--americascapes

The idiom? Somewhere in the neighbourhood of Bax (think 'Tintagel'). 6:44 of spine-tingling magnificence!
Title: Re: Landscape redux - Hanson, Loeffler etc.
Post by: Mark Thomas on Saturday 01 January 2022, 22:34
It is indeed a glorious little nugget of full-blown romanticism. Thanks for the heads up, Alan. Odd, though, that so soon after its release the orchestra has uploaded the full CD to YouTube - surely that'll hinder rather than help sales?
Title: Re: Landscape redux - Hanson, Loeffler etc.
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 01 January 2022, 22:41
Strange, yes. I imagine the purpose is to raise the profile of a rather obscure orchestra....
Title: Re: Landscape redux - Hanson, Loeffler etc.
Post by: Wheesht on Saturday 01 January 2022, 23:31
Would it make sense to merge this thread with the (http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php/topic,8443.msg87888.html#msg87888) earlier one from September about the same release?

[Merged, as you suggest. Mark]
Title: Re: Landscape redux - Hanson, Loeffler etc.
Post by: TerraEpon on Sunday 02 January 2022, 01:35
Those YouTube uploads are automatic, done by a bot controlled by Naxos (who is Ondine's distributor).
Title: Re: Landscape redux - Hanson, Loeffler etc.
Post by: Mark Thomas on Sunday 02 January 2022, 09:24
Ahh, that's interesting. Thanks.
Title: Re: Landscape redux - Hanson, Loeffler etc.
Post by: semloh on Friday 07 January 2022, 01:46
Before the Dawn is everything you say, Alan and Mark. A gorgeous piece, beautifully played. Although Hanson isn't Unsung, this piece certainly is, and I don't understand why. I think it would be a perfect Encore at orchestral concerts.
Title: Re: Landscape redux - Hanson, Loeffler etc.
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 07 January 2022, 03:42
... one movement of one work (sometimes quoted in other works) actually performed with any real frequency does not a sung composer make. He's only intermittently Romantic in our limited sense, I grant.
Title: Re: Landscape redux - Hanson, Loeffler etc.
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 07 January 2022, 12:45
I'd say Hanson was definitely unsung - especially here in the UK.

Eric: Before the Dawn is very early Hanson and very definitely romantic in the traditional (not neo) sense.