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Title: Mortelmans: De Kinderen der Zee
Post by: mikehopf on Saturday 20 November 2021, 08:23
Soirée Opéra: De Kinderen der Zee de Lodewijk Mortelmans sous la direction de Alain Altinoglu au Palais des Beaux-Arts de Bruxelles
Enregistré le 17/10/2021 au Palais des Beaux-Arts de Bruxelles




Lodewijk Mortelmans - De Kinderen der Zee
drame lyrique sur un livret de Rafael Verhulst

Stella- TINEKE VAN INGELGEM
Geertrui - CHRISTIANNE STOTIJN
Ivo Marien - YVES SAELENS
Petrus - WERNER VAN MECHELEN
Bolten - KURT GYSEN
Frederik- DENZIL DELAERE
Orchestre et choeur symphoniques de la Monnaie
Alain Altinoglu (4 hrs.)

On Belgian Radio Musiq3 tonight.

Judging by the length of the broadcast, it looks like a full performance of this beautiful opera.
Title: Re: Mortelmans: De Kinderen der Zee
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 20 November 2021, 11:12
Is anyone able to record this, please?
Title: Re: Mortelmans: De Kinderen der Zee
Post by: BerlinExpat on Sunday 21 November 2021, 17:14
De Kinderen der Zee isn't "whole" as it was performed without a chorus on account of chorus members testing positive at the last moment.
Title: Re: Mortelmans: De Kinderen der Zee
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 21 November 2021, 17:22
Still, it'd be good to hear it.
Title: Re: Mortelmans: De Kinderen der Zee
Post by: BerlinExpat on Monday 22 November 2021, 07:44
I'm working on it!
Title: Re: Mortelmans - De Kinderen der Zee
Post by: M. Yaskovsky on Wednesday 12 January 2022, 11:03
I listened the whole work through; I don't know what others think of it but I'm very disappointed by the singing of the female leads.... pity.
Title: Re: Mortelmans: De Kinderen der Zee
Post by: Mark Thomas on Monday 06 June 2022, 11:39
It's taken me a long time to get around to listening to this. I probably have a tin ear, but the none of the singers' performances disturbed me. Although his debt to Wagner is clear, Mortelmans manages to combine lushly orchestrated lyricism with plenty of musical drama to the detriment of neither. The absence of a chorus (which I can't say I missed) added to the impression that De Kinderen der Zee sounds like a sort of "Ring-lite" without the longueurs which, for me at least, spoil Wagner's works. De Kinderen der Zee, even in this chorus-less form, ranks as one of my most pleasing "discoveries" thus far of 2022. 
Title: Re: Mortelmans: De Kinderen der Zee
Post by: M. Yaskovsky on Friday 10 June 2022, 10:31
I think I expected the same quality of singing that was presented in this recording https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8399857--mortelmans-in-flanders-fields-vol-97-the-children-of-the-sea
But that was made under studio conditions. I found some singing form the live performance under stress but the orchestral performance was/is much to my liking. I really was hoping for a complete recording, because it's one of the only operas in Dutch/Flemish I know. But alas..............
Title: Re: Mortelmans: De Kinderen der Zee
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 10 June 2022, 14:33
The only other one that comes to mind just off the top of my head is from 1938-40 and by Gilse (but there is a complete recording on YouTube.)

There's actually a site "https://www.401nederlandseoperas.nl/" with a parallel section in English, I notice, and which seems at a quick glance to be very interesting. I haven't checked to see what they have to say about the Mortelmans opera, yet.
Title: Re: Mortelmans: De Kinderen der Zee
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Friday 10 June 2022, 15:52
Alas, Eric, he is not listed there!
Title: Re: Mortelmans: De Kinderen der Zee
Post by: mikehopf on Saturday 11 June 2022, 06:57
Maybe it's because he was a Belgian composer.
Title: Re: Mortelmans: De Kinderen der Zee
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Saturday 11 June 2022, 08:53
Ah, quite. I didn't realize that. Thanks.
Title: Re: Mortelmans: De Kinderen der Zee
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 16 June 2022, 21:50
Whoops. I think I focused too hard on operas in Dutch (as to operas in Flemish, I think I know of some but your point is taken.)- Ah! There's a recording of a Benoit oratorio on Youtube; he wrote an opera in Flemish (Het Dorp in 't Gebergte) but I'm not sure..
Title: Re: Mortelmans: De Kinderen der Zee
Post by: mikehopf on Friday 17 June 2022, 07:15
Flemish and Dutch are the same language.
Title: Re: Mortelmans: De Kinderen der Zee
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 17 June 2022, 07:54
I think they're more like two different dialects, with significant differences in pronunciation and vocabulary.
Title: Re: Mortelmans: De Kinderen der Zee
Post by: M. Yaskovsky on Friday 17 June 2022, 08:32
Vlaams (Flemish) and Nederlands (Dutch) belong both to the Low Franconian linguistic category. Problem for me as a native Dutch speaker is I hardly can understand a native Flemish speaker but a native Flemish speaker is perfectly able to follow me. So I had difficulties understanding the sung text from Mortelmans opera because it sounded so un-Dutch  :)
Title: Re: Mortelmans: De Kinderen der Zee
Post by: mikehopf on Friday 17 June 2022, 08:42
I have the same problem with Scottish.
Title: Re: Mortelmans: De Kinderen der Zee
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 17 June 2022, 10:11
Try this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW-OhHOzxwk