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The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: Alan Howe on Saturday 16 December 2023, 17:05

Title: Chausson Symphony
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 16 December 2023, 17:05
Now this is something I'd like to hear more of: Chausson's Symphony in B flat, played by the Berlin Philharmonic under Tugan Sokhiev:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LcflGmToZg    (teaser)
Title: Re: Chausson Symphony
Post by: der79sebas on Saturday 16 December 2023, 19:59
Unfortunately, Sokhiev is possibly the worst of all living conductors...
Title: Re: Chausson Symphony
Post by: Ilja on Saturday 16 December 2023, 20:11
You'll need to qualify that statement.
Title: Re: Chausson Symphony
Post by: jdperdrix on Saturday 16 December 2023, 20:59
Just watched the youtube teaser. I'd listened to Chausson many times but I'd never realized that the call of the trombones at 1:55 then 2:06 (teaser timings) is identical to the theme of Dvorak's 9th finale. Is it a coincidence ? Chausson's is from 1890 and Dvorak's from 1893...
Title: Re: Chausson Symphony
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 16 December 2023, 21:48
No idea, sorry. Probably a coincidence.

The point I was trying to make was that it's good to have the Berlin Philharmonic in this music - something we're used to in, say, Bruckner or Mahler. Let's not get hung up on the conductor, please.
Title: Re: Chausson Symphony
Post by: Ilja on Sunday 17 December 2023, 08:52
Agreed. I just got irked by the lack of argument. 

It's good that top-flight orchestras take up this repertoire and contrary what we concluded about Franck's symphony, Chausson's seems to retain a more solid presence in concert halls. Also, the Poème de l'amour et de la mer is played by both the Berlin and Vienna Phil in the coming month, and there are regular performances of the Poème for violin and orchestra.
Title: Re: Chausson Symphony
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 17 December 2023, 09:53
I don't blame you, Ilja. Opinions, however expressed, should always be backed up with reasons. I thought we'd established that principle years ago...



Title: Re: Chausson Symphony
Post by: eschiss1 on Monday 18 December 2023, 21:56
The Chausson and Dukas (to select another Franck-adjacent-ish) symphonies both are doing not badly in recent recordings (and recording companies think reissuing older recordings of them is a good idea as well) even if the last public performance of the Dukas I seem to be able to track down (offhand) is the American Symphony Orchestra, in 2007...
Title: Re: Chausson Symphony
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 19 December 2023, 14:31
Quote from: eschiss1 on Monday 18 December 2023, 21:56The Chausson and Dukas (to select another Franck-adjacent-ish) symphonies both are doing not badly in recent recordings (and recording companies think reissuing older recordings of them is a good idea as well)

True - but in comparison to the attention being given to Bruckner and Mahler it's no contest, I'm afraid.